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Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-16-2010, 11:33 PM
Seriously?
How many cats you know are better than RA the Rugged Man? Nas, Rakim, G Rap...i could name only a very few. One of the greatest of all time?

GhostfaceThaPharoahe
10-17-2010, 12:12 AM
Not enough material, he needs to drop a mixtape, anything

Everymanornoman
10-17-2010, 01:19 AM
big pun, big l, ghostface... damn, definitely one of the greatest of all time, major league. plus i think he'd kill kool g on both tracks they both were feature on. and on that cunt renaissance joint - he was on the same level with biggy.

if i ain't better than big - im the closest...

djskillz
10-17-2010, 01:53 AM
shit even big had to give it up to ra. like someone else said though he needs to drop more material.

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-17-2010, 02:11 AM
He needs to do an album with Buckwild, 9th Wonder, Primo production. I wanna see this cat shine.

djskillz
10-17-2010, 02:16 AM
he'll shine over anyone's production. i'm just fiendin for a new album.

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-17-2010, 02:26 AM
is it safe to say he's the most skilled ever? He got props from KRS, G Rap, Biggie...etc.

djskillz
10-17-2010, 02:33 AM
it all depends on preference. he's definitely up there. there's alot of people that can stack up to him though.

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-17-2010, 02:38 AM
Who do you think could stack up to him?

IMO, he's delivery is just unmatched.

MaskedAvenger
10-17-2010, 02:47 AM
In terms of ability he is most def up there, but unfortunately he hasn't got a catalog like most of the best. It's more than just ability, its about the music you drop.

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-17-2010, 02:53 AM
But if he did have a killer Catalog that would be too scary. He'd be a top 5 without a doubt.

MaskedAvenger
10-17-2010, 02:55 AM
Yeah. Hopefully he drops some ill albums over the next few years

DR. NICK RIVIERA
10-17-2010, 04:41 AM
why don't anybody mention cats from '00? :D hiphop didn't end at '94

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-17-2010, 04:45 AM
RA > Eminem?

BIG D O
10-17-2010, 06:13 AM
from a technical standpoint he's ill....

some of the shit he rhyme bout I don't relate to tho....he be on some other shiut sometimes....that "dirty Bitch Anthem" is like ear poison lol....

he's also a repbublican who was pining for John McCain and Sarah Palin last election....lol....make of that what you will....

Undiluted Karma
10-17-2010, 06:16 AM
One of the greatest of all time defo. I wouldnt put him in my top 5 props but hes in my top 10.

RiseWithTheFallen
10-17-2010, 10:04 AM
i've heard his 2 albums, i can't stand him. a few verses i like here and there but for the most part i think he sucks.

GhettoGnom
10-17-2010, 10:42 AM
I've never understood how Tonedeff never gets mentioned (except by me ofc) in threads like these.. Try finding ANY type of flaw in Tonedeff's lyrical ability or flow! Dude straight up bodies ANYTHING and outshines EVERYONE..

edit- lol @ the clown above me..



R.A. is definitely up there with the greats in skills.. Probably wouldn't put him in my top 5 or 10 though, maybe 15 or 20..

MaskedAvenger
10-17-2010, 10:54 AM
edit- lol @ the clown above me..


^^^^

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-29-2010, 08:03 AM
Nas or RA?

Shitty Brainz
10-29-2010, 08:25 AM
RA is in his own league. i don't know how can you compare him to Nas, Rakim and such.. he's different, and his catalogue is too small

Hollow Dartz
10-29-2010, 08:30 AM
theres alot of cats better than this nigga

WooHa
10-29-2010, 11:38 AM
Dude is fuccin dope, hands down

Paranoid
10-29-2010, 05:47 PM
theres alot of cats better than this nigga

..like?

Luz
10-29-2010, 06:24 PM
His rhyming style gets old after a while. He really tries too hard for those multis

main_man
10-29-2010, 07:20 PM
naw, his multis are fire. r.a. can deliver. the cat is ill, no question.

he just has no material. i mean, his guest spots are always dope, but he needs some fucking albums. what about a damn mixtape or two. something. this cat puts out less than doom and cage.

with his skillset, he should be dropping more heat. i guess hes just lazy or dont have the means. but in order for him to rise in the ranks, more material is a must.

Tecknowledgist
10-29-2010, 08:04 PM
As far as multi-syllabic rapid fire flow goes, I wouldn't put anybody above him. He's got that on lock.

He needs to do more storytelling joints though

Smithhaven Mall is really dope and Uncommon Valor is still probably the best rap verse I've ever heard, not even exaggerating.

Hollow Dartz
10-29-2010, 08:22 PM
..like?
gucci mane for starters...

spiggity_ace
10-29-2010, 08:45 PM
hes aight but honestly nothing special, i dont get how people just love em straighyt up, the guys careers based on maybe like 5 dope verses, im not bashin em hes dope but hes not that amazing, nmost of the tyme wen he goes in to the rapid fire floe hes just using adjectives describing something not like tellin a story with the multis like g rap does, that being sed, hes dope if he gets a dope album out with good production maybe ill listen to em, that die rugged man die album aint that good, but his song with havoc is insane.

djskillz
10-29-2010, 08:47 PM
^that's my favorite pharoahe monch traack in your sig.

Djaminha
10-29-2010, 09:40 PM
One of the GOATS????


Hell No.

War and Peace
10-29-2010, 11:59 PM
does homes really have that much breath control?
or does he do mad splices?

I've heard verses from ra where I don't hear an inhale lol

David Daniel Davis
10-30-2010, 12:15 AM
Seriously?
How many cats you know are better than RA the Rugged Man? Nas, Rakim, G Rap...i could name only a very few. One of the greatest of all time?

Forget Lil Wayne; Cormega is the greatest rapper alive.

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-30-2010, 12:18 AM
Biggie when talking about RA: 'I thought i was the illest',


seriously, skill wise, he has top be a top 5.

Paranoid
10-30-2010, 04:29 AM
gucci mane for starters...

i assume this is a joke

hide1998
10-30-2010, 04:36 AM
But if he did have a killer Catalog that would be too scary. He'd be a top 5 without a doubt.

That's sort of like saying "If <insert wack MC, with good song concepts and a lot of material> could rap he'd be top 5 without a doubt."

But yeah, RA Rugged Man has lots of technical ability.

Mr. R&B
10-30-2010, 04:44 AM
does homes really have that much breath control?
or does he do mad splices?

I've heard verses from ra where I don't hear an inhale lol


That's part of his mystique, you're not supposed to know.

I think what he does is write a verse and then practice spitting it for weeks or months so he can jump in the booth and one-take the shit.

Either that or he's superhuman with the breath control.

spiggity_ace
10-30-2010, 04:54 AM
^that's my favorite pharoahe monch traack in your sig.

yea one of my fav too, fuckin insane story tellin involved in it i can picture it all

Djaminha
10-30-2010, 07:52 AM
Biggie when talking about RA: 'I thought i was the illest',


seriously, skill wise, he has top be a top 5.
Again, your opinion is not FACT.

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-30-2010, 08:13 AM
You say that shit, yet you never ever support your arguments, you just block mine and don't even state you fkn opinion.

djskillz
10-30-2010, 09:00 AM
You say that shit, yet you never ever support your arguments, you just block mine and don't even state you fkn opinion.

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Djaminha
10-30-2010, 09:08 AM
You say that shit, yet you never ever support your arguments, you just block mine and don't even state you fkn opinion.
Calling RA top 5 of all time is madness.

oldie
10-30-2010, 06:08 PM
I don't know what it is bout RA, some of his rhymes really aren't that complex (others are mad complex)
He just got something raw bout his music, he does need more material
He needs to do what Celph Titled did, a 4 disc collection!!

oldie
10-30-2010, 06:11 PM
But cats better then him? Hmm, Id say Celph Titled & Esoteric arent far behind him

The Rebel INS on his Hoe Buddens type shit

Inspektah Meth-Tical
10-30-2010, 07:03 PM
But cats better then him? Hmm, Id say Celph Titled & Esoteric arent far behind him

The Rebel INS on his Hoe Buddens type shit

Yeah thats the word. I reckon INS is one of the most technically gifted ever. He's mad underrated.

Eventhorizon
10-30-2010, 09:06 PM
R.A is talented but I wouldnt go so far as to say he's one of the best ever

He's gotten alot better with time tho, he has an unreleased album from the early 90's under the name "Crustified Dibbs" or summin called "Night of the Bloody Apes", wasnt anything special......... Thats the album where that biggie duet came from

He could go down with one of the greatest verses ever tho for that "Uncommon Valor" track