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Jin10304
10-22-2010, 02:11 AM
Great year for the Wu overall. Bronze Nazareth is seriously putting in A LOT of fucking work just in 2010 alone (Handling 60's album, Vinnie Paz, 9th Prince, Hell Razah, Wisemen, soon to be Timbo King & Raekwon). Lyricism is definitely up on this, better then their debut. Nice drum work, love the jazz samples. Corn Liquor is some grimey old Wu shit...

1. Intro
2. Children of A Lesser God (Bronze Nazareth)
3. Thirsty Fish feat Raekwon (Kevlaar 7)
4. Faith Doctrine feat Beace (Kevlaar 7)
5. Interlude-Don't Nut On My Bed!!
6. Lucy (Bronze Nazareth)
7. Get U Shot (Bronze Nazareth)
8. Hurt Lockers (Bronze Nazareth)
9. The Illness Part II (Kevlaar 7)
10. Words From Big Rube (Skit) feat Big Rube (Bronze Nazareth)
11. I Gotta Know (Kevlaar 7)
12. Listen To The Wisemen (Skit) feat Minister Watson (Kevlaar 7)
13. Panic In Vision Park (Bronze Nazareth)
14. Do It Again (Supaa Maine)
15. Interlude-Toxic (Bronze Nazareth)
16. Makes Me Want A Shot (Bronze Nazareth)
17. Victorious Hoods feat Victorious & Planet Asia (Kevlaar 7)
18. Corn Liquor Thoughts (Bronze Nazareth)
19. Outro-Hip Hop Blues (Kevlaar 7)

13 Tracks in total. 7 by Bronze (not counting skits) 5 by Kevlaar 7 and the other by Supa Maine (even his is really good)

deeznutz1981
10-22-2010, 09:48 AM
This album is really good

off 2 listens my favs are:

Lucy
Get U Shot
Hurt Lockers
The Illness Part II (this one is the best on the album imo)
Corn Liquor

overall an amazing album though the drum patterns are fuckin dope!

Antonelli
10-23-2010, 09:41 AM
Available on filestube....

On the FIRST listen :

I prefer 10 times the first album because beats here are just too slow and boring. I'm a huge huge fan of bronze nazareth but this time he didn't produced jewels except the groundbreaking track : "HURT LOCKERS" ! This track is just fire ! Didn't like too much kevlaar produced tracks aswell.

Tracks i like :

Faith doctrine (good)
Lucy (fire)
Get u shot (fire)
Hurt lockers (pure crack)
The ilness 2 (good)
i gotta know (fire)
Victorious Hoods (fire)
Corn liquor thoughts (good)

shogun85
10-23-2010, 10:03 AM
I actually enjoyed Children of A Lesser God more than Wisemen Approaching. Don't get me wrong, Wisemen Apprching is still a banger, I just enjoyed this one more. Beats are Bangin'! They all stepped their game up on this one.

SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS
10-23-2010, 04:33 PM
def a dope album

DR. NICK RIVIERA
10-24-2010, 03:55 PM
the skit on 'Get U Shot' is useless...well, most of them were...

otherwise an album Wu fans could be proud of. No big problem with this album, maybe it's not gonna get as much rotation as the Skyzoo album, cuz it's not something an average hiphop fan is used to...but tell people around about it. K7, Bronze and others deserve it.

the silencer
10-31-2010, 08:53 PM
this is an insanely long review so lemme give you the short version first:

1. Intro
2. Children of a Lesser God 5/5
3. Thirsty Fish (ft Raekwon) 4.5/5
4. Faith Doctrine (feat Beace) 4/5
5. Interlude: Don't Nut in My Bed!
6. Lucy 5/5
7. Get U Shot 4/5
8. Hurt Lockers 4.5/5
9. The Illness 2 - 5/5
10. Words from Big Rube (feat Big Rube of The Dungeon Family) 5/5
11. I Gotta Know 5/5
12. Listen to the Wisemen (feat Minister Watson) 5/5
13. Panic in Vision Park 5/5
14. Do It Again 3.5/5
15. Interlude - Toxic
16. Makes Me Want a Shot 4/5
17. Victorious Hood (feat Victorious and Planet Asia) 4/5
18. Corn Liquor Thoughts 5/5
19. Outro - Hip Hop Blues 5/5

Beats 4.5/5
Lyrics 4.5/5
Overall: 9/10

and the long version.....


I think heads are sleeping on this LP majorly. I’ve realized a while ago that this crew consistently makes music that rewards dozens of listens. You can’t throw this record in once, twice, three times and be able to fully catch its dopeness (aside from a few instant BANGERS like Lucy), especially when there’s as much material as we have here. 19 tracks (including some instrumental interludes) with at least 6 different emcees dropping verses. And there’s really not a BAD, or totally skippable song on the whole LP. My least favorite is probably “Do It Again” but even that’s a pretty dope track as these guys seem to have a specialty for making grimy love/relationship songs. It’s hard to pick a BEST track because there are at least four that I find to be amazing. This is how an album should be. Even the goddamn skits are dope!

When the first Wisemen album was dropping I didn’t expect much, was kinda thinking Bronze is just trying to put his crew on like Ice Water or Theodore Unit or something but then the quality of every song on that first album just blew me the fuck away. Every one of these dudes can spit and there are two beat geniuses on the boards. Children of a Lesser God builds towers over the previous material, though. They’re really innovating and elevating the style on this one while still holding to that core of pure raw hip hop. It’s like they’re takin it back and moving things forward at the same time.

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Album art:
The cd has some great artwork/design and I really like the album cover. Great color combo of basically gold, bronze, blood red, and black with a texture that gives the cd case a cool look to it, like blood-stained parchment or somethin. That “WISEMEN” logo looks sick, I had forgotten how cool that is. Reminds me of the sharp wrought iron fences and gates around old cathedrals. You open it up and see a symmetrical set of Detroit buildings with a sky that looks like crack smoke hazes. Or else a bronze sky with blood clouds. The booklet is cool too with a little collage of images of the Wisemen. We gotta start moving away from these 2 page fold booklets though, I wanna see more albums with the LYRICS inside.


1. Intro
A down-and-out guttural voice pleads for help from a priest, with the striking “I want his [God’s] FUCKIN help!” emotional grab transitioning into…

2. Children of a Lesser God
prod by Bronze Nazareth
performed by Bronze, Phillie, Kevlaar 7, Illah Dayz

What an opening. Bronze bursts in with emotions, pleas, prayers over crashing drums and rising horn wails. For an album that so heavily emphasizes lyrics and especially visual lyrics this opening verse is a perfect way to set it off. In the span of a couple of bars he paints pictures as vivid as “Iron chains surround my city’s canvas/Brandish lanterns in overcast moments manly standin.”

These lines are thick, heavy with meaning, almost everything he says has at least two meanings, even something as simple as the line “New release” which heralds the opening of his group’s newest album as well as a “secular fix” through which to channel and thus therapeutically release his aforementioned “bags of madness” (and ‘bags’ means both the screaming lungs or emotional ‘baggage’).

All of this happens over the most heavenly, cinematic drum crashes, complete with what sound like live cymbal splashes.

The chorus is short and simple but sweet and memorable. “Children of a Lesser God,” a title that sounds like music (or poetry) when spoken.

At first I thought Phillie’s verse, speaking of jewelry and cars, was a weird and unexpected detour from what seems to be the theme of the song, but then I realized he’s not bragging. He’s basically praying for them and envisioning his hopes and dreams before coming back to earth saying “but we outside looking in.” Which also made me realize the overall meaning of the song.

Kevlaar’s verse might be the best on the track as he enters the scene with some extremely powerful and passionate words. “At my peak I was crucified” is one of the peaks of the album. But Kev is envisioning heavenly dreams just like Phillie, looking at his kids “basking in glow” and acquiring much more than the simple necessities in life but, as gifted as they are as musicians, they’re ahead of their time (“It’s too early, truth is dirty”) and still having to struggle because the profession of practicing pure hip hop is not a lucrative one. I like Illah Dayz’ verse because he maintains the strong delivery and powerful speech of the song but some of his words are hard to hear and decipher. He doesn’t bring down the song though.

This track is a desperate grasp towards heaven, a reaching up to the stars (as Phillie says: “tryin to reach my starbucks” and Kevlaar speaks of “trying to reach beyond the iron” meaning beyond a life of holding heat but also beyond the earth and its gravitational iron core to the stars), but it’s like a Daedalian flight (on wings made from the pages of their art) that then drifts back downward and falls back to earth. You can hear this in the beat as it’s represented by the ascent and descent of the horns which fall alongside the sound of a trickling harp. This descent is also in the distorted second bar of the chorus and the common theme of prayer-flights and back-down-to-earth-drops of each verse as each emcee has to resort to a “secular fix” because “low wages got me fucked up and pullin gages.”

5/5

3. Thirsty Fish ft Raekwon
prod by Kevlaar 7
performed by Bronze, Salute the Kid, Raekwon

The drums, man. The motha effin drums. The knockin’ drumsticks sound almost tangible and the sample music is unbelievably smooth with all of its elements (including a guitar riff and jangling metal) conspiring toward the sound of a slithering, gritty blaxploitation-flick Cadillac cruising down a city street. I saw Cilvaringz describe this as the best Kevlaar beat he’s ever heard. I don’t know if I agree with that but it’s a pretty dope fuckin beat and it’s a perfect fit for the Slang Lord Wu general and biggest feature on the album, Raekwon the Chef, to tear into shreds. “Rockin them gun umbrellas,” Rae smoothly steps in and delivers his usual menu of short-sentence portraits and slang doctrines, plenty of memorable lines like “Welcome to the House of Flying Daggers.” Great to see the man who is perhaps currently the unofficial leader of the Wu stamping his approval of officialness on a smooth Kevlaar banger, it’s reminiscent of Gza’s slicing and dicing on the first Wisemen album (and in fact the albums have a very similar song arrangement, I think).

Bronze gives a great introduction to the song, coining a new nickname for a blunt and letting the Kevlaar beat soak in “like some good soup” before jumping in and splashing wild paintbrush strokes with “blu-ray precision.” So many great one-liners and wordplay in his verse (his “nitroglycerin thesis”) and one of his many great lyrical performances on the album.

It’s worth mentioning that through more and more listens, you’ll detect a number of recurring themes and images, similar references and lines throughout the album between all the emcees. This comes with writing together for extended periods of time but also I’m sure some of it is intentional. In this song, Bronze’s flow is “dripping more shit than pigeon” and Salute starts a line off with “style: rugby” while later on in Corn Liquor Thoughts, Salute “drop shit that magnetize niggas like flies” and Bronze speaks “rugby talk.” The more you hear the album, the more you’ll catch these.

The key element and best thing about this album, giving it so much replay value, is the quality of the lyrics. No matter what the content even is, the lines are just so visual. An example is Salute here, talking drug-runner, crime material and his method is to use clever wordplay while drawing a verbal picture for almost every line. “For the bread, beat his forehead with the toast” and I’m picturing a karate-chop pistol-whip move by the dude from Super Fly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Fly_%28film%29). “No comparisons, fuck what you see on the tubes/They don’t play us on the radio so FUCK them too.” I do think Lute’s verse is a bit too long though.

4.5/5


4. Faith Doctrine ft Beace
produced by Kevlaar 7
performed by Phillie, Bronze, Salute, Kevlaar 7, and Beace (on the chorus)

The drums and bass absolutely pound on here. The sample beams in like an outpouring of sunlight through clouds. Very cool beat, it seems to rise and then reach a plateau before spreading itself out. It almost creates its own space that, if your headphones or speakers are loud enough, can envelop you into it and surround you. Great musical experience.

I would’ve liked to hear more from Beace on the album than just a single appearance on a chorus. I really like the message on this joint and the sample in between each verse. Kevlaar’s verse, with his own masterly-crafted beat disappearing underneath him and then rising up again, is the best part of the track for me.

4/5

5. Interlude: “Don’t nut on my bed!”

There are a couple skits like this, seemingly natural conversations recorded and serving as perfect intros leading into the songs they precede (“Toxic” being the other one).


6. LUCY
prod by Bronze Nazareth
performed by Illah Dayz, Bronze, Kevlaar 7

Through my first few listens of the album, this was by far my favorite track. The drums crash so heavily, the tambourine hi-hats crash and the pace is fast and energetic and there’s just an insane amount of passion and emotion in the beat as well as the verses. This is a song about being driven nearly mad by a female, “I was in love, lust, and infatuated, stuck in a craze” and each emcee conveys this perfectly. I love everything about this song, each verse is great, the beat is so good that I can’t help but tap my feet to it every time I listen (even in public places), and the added instrumentation from Project Lionheart works perfectly on here with the rising emotive horns that seem to grow in strength as each verse descends into disarray and mental chaos (“I was all in as if my manhood was a sin”).

Even with Bronze’s explicit Rza/Ghostface-esque pussy juice talk, this song must be played LOUD as fuck always.

5/5


7. Get U Shot
prod by Bronze Nazareth
performed by Kevlaar 7, Bronze, Salute

One of the refreshing moments of levity on the album. The beat is pretty simple, consisting only of a piano loop over strong drums (weirdly, the beat reminds of Duck Seazon) and it’s got a comical Southern Baptist church feel to it, especially with the old folks chattering throughout.

Kevlaar’s verse is excellent, so many great rhymes and descriptions and he is telling kind of a comical yet somber story. If you listen carefully, it’s a story about a slain gang member’s mother taking revenge by going out and gunning down her son’s murderer (“Ice Valentine”) and “now momma lookin for his team.” But “this ain’t no Sergio Leone movie (http://www.sergioleone.com/films.htm)” as much as it may sound like one.

Bronze walks with the beat so seamlessly here with a great flow and a few great bars of his own, “So I’ma leave ‘em leakin in the light/Cuz blood shine like beacon/I’m co-signin to deacons, speakin to mountains.”

Salute, as he does for pretty much every verse on the album, has great energy and a smooth pace in his flow. Definitely hungry and grabbing some serious shine on this album.

The 2+ minutes of rambling at the end are hilarious when you listen to them and they serve almost as a break in the action or an interlude (or a skip point if you’re stepping along trying to jam out on bangers instead of sinking into the record). The final line is the funniest and transitions into the laughter opening the next joint…

4/5


8. Hurt Lockers
prod by Bronze Nazareth
performed by Salute, Phillie, Bronze

Surprisingly, it took me a few listens before I caught on to how dope this track is. The beat is different than Bronze’s usual material, it reminds me a bit of “Blood Diamond.” The sample is distorted and chopped to pieces then played over knocking snares with barely any bass. Phillie’s repeated baritone chorus almost seems to serve as the bass.

It’s the lyrics that make this track so great though. Salute sets it off with major energy, almost to the point of yelling his bars, and he’s “more thirsty than that puppet nigga posin’ for Sprite” [I take it that’s Drake and I can’t stand that dude].

Phillie is dope as well, displaying a smooth flow infused with self-inflating swagger and a final line that I love: “Got game like Phil Jackson.” Of all the NBA references I’ve heard in rap songs, I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard an emcee liken himself to a coach but this is the Zen master with 11 rings we’re talking about.

My favorite part of the song is Bronze’s verse containing some CRAZY lines, among my favorite:

“Over the years my name etched in hall of fame,
souvenirs left like BOMBIN BULLET TRAIN”

“If hip hop’s deceased then show me the body bag!”

“Rap circles around you like handcuffs and ankleweights”

Only annoying thing is his lines occasionally get muffled behind the rapidly rolling drums.

4.5/5

9. The Illness 2
prod by Kevlaar 7
performed by Illah Dayz, Phillie, Bronze (on the chorus)

Loved Part 1 on the first album and part 2 is just as dope. Insane beat, wonderful chops by K7 and Illah (the “Illahstrator”) rides this mofo very impressively. Phillie’s performance is great too with his extra coarse voice adding a gunmetal gray tint to his story-verse that molds together with the stir-of-echoes beat. This song creates the aura and atmosphere of a dark narrow alley with its ominous voices and horns and a chorus that sounds like a warning, “the Illness: trouble is where you find it.” All together (the beat, 3 verses, chorus) this is one of the joints I wanna blast everytime I go through the album.

5/5

10. Words from Big Rube
prod by Bronze Nazareth
performed by Big Rube of the Dungeon Family

It’s only a 1-minute little interlude type thing but this track is magnificent. Make it loud; listen closely to the striking depths of this drumless melody. A veteran deliverer of poignant poetry on past Outkast classics, Big Rube has a wonderful outpouring of somber-but-sweet rhymes that chime along with the bittersweet beat he laments over.

“Like a single blade of grass pushin through the cracked concrete,
I establish my roots by attempting to accomplish some feat”

“You in this jungle, gotta by humble, I’m just a mouse amongst the elephants”

5/5

11. I Gotta Know
prod by Kevlaar 7
performed by Salute the Kid, Phillie, Bronze, Illah Dayz

The repeating sample to close out the previous track leads nicely into the opening here, a clicking of the beat that conjures that sound of someone trying to spark a BIC lighter. When the flame is lit it illuminates a massively spacious atmosphere announced by the reverberating bass sneaking immediately into the track.

This is another track that I had to listen to many times before I could catch on to its amazingness. I couldn’t quite comprehend the beat at first, there are so many various elements involved that it took me a few listens to perceive the coalescing harmony of all of them. I think that’s a testament to the elevated level of Kevlaar’s producing talents. This is a very complex beat and yet it is weaved together into a perfect melody played out over a heavily rolling bassline (I’m realizing that dope bassline is a specialty of his).

I like every one of the four verses here, especially Phillie’s. It’s amazing how they connect their verses and deliveries with the tone in the beat (they do this many times on the album). The chorus took me time to get used to but I’m feeling it now that I can connect with the message, which is simply “All this effort I’m putting into this, I gotta know if anything’s gonna come out of it!?!”

Initially this was a 4/5 for me but the more I vibe to this knockin beat, the more I love this track.

5/5

12. Listen to the Wisemen
prod by Kevlaar 7
performed by Minister Watson

Suuuuuch an ill beat. And the sample selection is perfect (is that the Beatles?). Partly a trippy-sounding audio-hypnosis but partly just dope, bangin instruments and then Minister Watson. When I had this joint on in the car, my girlfriend commented that it sounded like a voicemail. “It’s a message,” I said only realizing the potential of what I was saying after I’d already said it. This is a message in the middle of the album but it’s not simply saying “listen to our music,” it’s an eloquent description of wisdom.

5/5


13. Panic in Vision Park
prod by Bronze Nazareth
performed by Bronze, Phillie, Kevlaar 7


Among my favorite tracks on the album. The drum patterns are so creative, very original and LIVE sounding. Like “I Gotta Know,” there’s a lot going on in this beat and when its collective harmony hits you it is mesmerizing. Next to Corn Liquor Thoughts, this has to be Bronze’s best verse, he just totally spazzes out on here and laces the track with darts:


Cut loose I’m worse than Noah’s flood waters
Medusa’s daughters, travelin like assassin bullets into ya body cabinets


Last line conjures Dali’s famous cabinet images:
http://www.salvadordaliexperts.com/images/640_drawers3.jpg


and then he follows it with this terrific one:

“Amongst open-book rappers, there’s no chapters
an urban worthless map drawn, saran wrap ya wack songs”

then just keeps rolling on from there over this head-bopper.

Phillie slows it down a bit too much although I love the line “go nuts in the club like my necklace BROKE.” After that, the beat drops for one of Kevlaar’s best lyrical outputs on the album:

“It’s a gift and a curse, like nursing a dead flower
back to life, I watch you grow then let you go until my final hour”

Such an eloquent title for this track and I also love the poignant comedian quotes and crowd sounds. Really, really cool track. Perfect, creative jazz-hip hop fusion.

5/5


14. Do It Again
prod by Supaa Maine
performed by Bronze, Phillie, Salute, Kevlaar 7

At first I was questioning why this track was even on the album, it’s the only outside production and kind of a simple beat. It’s definitely grown on me now though. Altogether with the saxophones and everything there’s more depth to the beat than you realize at first. It also perfectly fits the theme of the song as the pace of the beat conjures a woman’s orgasm and the lyrics are great here, I especially like Salute’s verse. Flowing with the song’s theme, notice the repetition of fluid and fountains in each verse.

3.5/5


15. Interlude: Toxic
prod by Bronze

We all been there…

16. Makes Want a Shot
prod by Bronze Nazareth
performed by Salute, Bronze, Kevlaar 7

Another joint whose dopeness I was apparently deaf to at first but has since grown on me. The beat’s not amazing, but the emcees KILL this one. Every verse is crazy dope, especially Bronze’s with the fast flow. Plenty of great samples, quotes, and effects too (like the earth belching on Kev’s verse).

Overall, the album really has a nice flow and sequence to it and here we’re preparing to close it out with a few drinks.

4/5

17. Victorious Hoods ft Victorious, Planet Asia
prod by Kevlaar 7
performed by Illah Dayz, Salute, Phillie, Victorious, Planet Asia, Kevlaar 7 (on the chorus)

Very celebratory, victorious feel to this one. Great beat with the bongo drums and live horns chiming in and a very memorable chorus. This joint to me feels like the victorious conclusion to the opening track, bringing in a couple dope underground dartsmiths (Planet Asia always murks shit) to the party, and they’re all toasting to the completion of this dope album.

4/5

18. Corn Liquor Thoughts
produced by Bronze fuckin Nazareth
performed by Salute, Bronze, Kevlaar 7, Phillie, June Megaladon

I’ve been trying to think of another album that concludes with such an awesome song as this one…Supreme Clientele (Wu Banga 101)? No Said Date? Hard to think of another one.

This is the grimiest, darkest, dirtiest track on the album and it’s arguably the best track on the entire album. The beat has a kind of smooth staggering pace like a drunk draggin himself home from the bar along the sidewalk at night. In his mind his thoughts, dreams, emotions fade in and out (the chopped voices you hear), occasionally he blacks out and the beat disappears completely. Those slurring guitar strings just sound like whiskey to me.

Salute has many nice verses on the album but this is best, he sets off this low-rider banger perfectly: “torchin for the fortune, I could give a fuck about fame.” His lyrics and delivery create the image of jaguars or panthers pacing through grasslands, “let the youngest move wit the pack.”

Bronze absolutely tears this mothafucker to shreds. “Pay me my advance in Colombian coke and watch me flip it like Dominique Dawes, swingin through bars like a coked-up sloth, math precise compass off” and then in the middle of his verse, the beat drops and he really does swing through like climbing monkey bars, trying to catch back on to the beat with each new line, “Rotate the flow straight.”

Kevlaar sounds possessed, or like he’s been swiggin a flask before an assassination attempt: “Spin the cylinder, cyclical spitter: realer than lead spit at the White House pillars.” He’s thinking about pullin stings, flippin your boat like “Corey Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corey_Smith) shivers,” and once again (just like the title track) he’s got one of the best single lines on the whole album: “Impossible, I sell popsicles in hell…hungry niggas, yall I’m ringin the dinner bell.”

When I heard Phillie’s part at first I thought he took a wrong turn somewhere since he’s swaggin on a dark track but I realized he’s embodying the track’s theme because it’s undeniable that he sounds shitfaced, just braggin away but he’s in PERFECT harmony with the beat. June Mega, in his sole appearance on the album (besides his story on track 5), closes it out nicely with that ominous style of a swimming shark.

5/5

19. Outro: Hip Hop Blues
prod by Kevlaar 7

Great ending to a great album. Another dope beat (seriously heavy drums) over words that sum up the this crew’s genre.

5/5


Overall this album is loaded with heavy bass (thanks to Kevlaar), dope drum patterns, and a boatload of fresh instruments (horns, saxophones, guitars, pianos, chopped-up voice samples) all backing up some sharp, precise lyricism. This is undoubtedly a lot more polished than the first album, they even successfully experiment with a few new techniques of bringing the beat in and out based on the content of certain bars. Intricate design and near-flawless execution. It’s hard for me to rate this one overall because I don’t want to be construed as being overzealous or biased since this is my favorite stuff. Based on the ratings I gave for each track (16 songs since I didn’t rate 3 of the skits) it’s 73.5 out of 80 which is basically a little more than 9 out of 10. I’ll say:

Beats 4.5/5
Lyrics 4.5/5
Overall 9 out of 10


best tracks (in no order):
Corn Liquor Thoughts
Lucy
Children of a Lesser God
Panic in Vision Park

dad
10-31-2010, 08:56 PM
nice review.

Hollow Dartz
10-31-2010, 08:56 PM
LOL props on the review. LOL

the silencer
10-31-2010, 09:06 PM
LOL props on the review. LOL
hahaha i went all out on this one...

you feelin this album more than the older stuff or nah?

Kevlaar 7
10-31-2010, 11:11 PM
WOW. im humbled. i SWEAR this muthafucka "Silencer" be AT our studio sessions when we constructing these buildings....

JASPER BEARDLY
10-31-2010, 11:20 PM
this review has inspired me to listen to wisemen cds. i'm disappointed i haven't until now.

Dr. Simon Hurt
10-31-2010, 11:41 PM
excellent review...this album shocked the fuck out of me and is a huge step up from their debut. really thorough analysis, silencer.

WOW. im humbled. i SWEAR this muthafucka "Silencer" be AT our studio sessions when we constructing these buildings....

dude you showed out on the production this time...where's the solo album?

beeboy
10-31-2010, 11:48 PM
dope review, and the album is an instant classic !!! word

Kevlaar 7
10-31-2010, 11:55 PM
word up thank you for the props, Pandemic... utmost appreciation...I'm 96% done with my solo album, in fact i'm hitting the lab in the morning for an all day session tomorrow...Die ageless will be finished in the next few weeks fam, we have yet to secure a release date...stay tuned because EVERY album we release from here on out will be a step above the last...we here for GOOD...PEACE

Dr. Simon Hurt
11-01-2010, 12:24 AM
^i'm looking forward to it, is it going to include any of the stuff on 'unbutton your holsters'? also, another collaboration album with your brother would be excellent, both of you guys have come along way since the 'death's birth' days.

Kevlaar 7
11-01-2010, 09:02 AM
nope "Die ageless" will have nothing off of "unbutton your holsters"; all new shit. i'm also dropping an EP in December titled "Who got the camera?"...all militiant/revolutionary shit...

Tony Scar
11-01-2010, 10:24 AM
Review by Sunez (Co-Editor of Knowledge of Self Anthology)
http://lavoerevolt.blogspot.com/2010/10/wisemen-children-of-lesser-god-review.html

The flourishing of Wu discipleship is one of the greatest sights in the saga of Hip Hop music. That the root takes Earth when Bronze Nazareth is realized by The RZA is the revealing premonition that we will receive the innovations of versatile epiphany and expert expansion. After 2006’s classic debut, The Great Migration, Bronze presents himself as the focal point to introduce his extended Detroit roots with the whole Wisemen crew’s debut of 2007, Wisemen Approaching. A debut album that played as an addictive continuation of Migrations’s stripped down hardcore beats with more rugged verses from Bronze. To listen deeper to Wisemen Approaching one can see that great lyricists and unique voices lurk within the fold as brother Kevlaar 7 and Phillie.

3 years pass and the waiting of the fan and the hustling of the artist is revealed as a diligent study of debuts that deepened in listener worth and MCs that have made the craft a profession. The sophomore effort of Children of a Lesser God must be understood as the success of mastered experimentation fortified by developed technique. With Bronze, Kevlaar 7, Phillie and Salute joined by members June Megaladon and Illa Dayz there is a reduction of versatility in flow and steadiness of track tempos as they seek perfection with exquisitely developed mid-tempo rolling breaks they accent with congas con tumbao and soaring soul wails all laced with seasoned rhyming.

In an age where Hip Hop seems scarred by a lack of skill as much as exploited gimmickry the Wisemen have an album that charges through with innovations of sincere musical exploration and a band of MCs that all have incredible mastery for syllable coupling and the imagery projection of their survivalist blues of enlightenment. Like the Wu-Tang Clan itself, each member of the Wisemen are brothers before they rhyme so their convergence on the mic has a completely unified sentiment that is compelling.

Bronze Nazareth is criminally unknown and garners the most respect merely as a great beatmaker. While this is as valid yet incomplete as understanding Michael Jordan as a great defender there is no rest in the earned respect. The tracks add live instrumentation with a band guided by Bronze and Kevlaar with the emphasis on unique snares, roaring bass lines and wailing vocals as if they are modern orchestrators with the spirit of Barry White in them. Whereas Wisemen Approaching may be seen as dynamic sampling from Love Unlimited Orchestra to Candi Staton to wonderful effect, Children... must be recognized as a distinct orchestration. As this is the epitome of the addict’s album, the innovations are felt with constant repetition. Bronze’s work this year has been with 60 Second Assassin’s debut, Remarkable Timing, where much like RZA with Wu’s 8 Diagrams, provided soundscapes that evolve with the inflections of the MC. 60 Sec, more the soul wailing orator of select terms like Greg Nice, was given hard tracks that isolated his verses (i.e. “Remarkable Timing”) or fluctuate with him like the oft kilter breaks on “Fizza Funky.” With Children..., Bronze, now with Kevlaar adding on substantially, offer hard breaks that ride with deliberate pausing that emphasizes on the MC’s rhythms and punchlines.

The marriage of beats and rhymes is exceptional and where we can understand the production advances. The Wisemen are all literally rhyming in a mastered tri-patterned flow that often has a punctuated rhymed syllable as the fourth word note. So many tracks achieve this synergy we can look at the Bronze produced “Corn Liquor Thoughts” where Kevlaar, who has a gift for the wonderfully chosen word, takes the verse from Bronze and on the isolated vocal hook begins, “Spin the cylinder/cyclical spitter/realer than lead spit at the White House pillars...” and on that tri pattern flow the break invites itself right on time. The amazing verse is followed by Phillie on the tri-pattern also going in with “Laser daggers piercing your skin...The power to devour whole cities, oh so Phillie, gotta Fo(ur) Fo(ur) wit me/ my bank rolls sickly/ pockets throwing up, regurgitating fifties/Long Beach ice teas/ chronic by the tree. it’s all I need to rock an m-i-c..” leading to the most deliberate use of the tri-pattern flow by June. June Megaladon, with a voice that has bass and command like the well featured Big Rube, goes in penning the song title to begin the flow, “My Corn Liquor Thoughts/ trouble I brought/ Liver than raw damage/you niggas fall famished...” The track is brilliant with a swooping bass line like a car engine churning and the break propping it up while the soul wails musically support the intentions.

And the tracks are where all this is immaculately attached. Kevlaar is literally the next great musician, with beats and rhymes. His reworking of the Charmels cymbal crash used on RZA’s “C.R.E.A.M.” has all the signature of his young stylings. With beautiful soaring vocals that chime in like the illest zombie Doo Wop group, the break has a marching crunch while that Charmel’s cymbal crash shines like a light in a dark attic finally discovered. Every sample, every type of vocal, every snare, every break, every bassline has a plan that promotes the MC intentions. Kevlaar’s “Faith Doctrine” epitomizes this where beautifully introspective lyrics on the enlightenment of honorable survival are led by a vocal sample of a lecture on principle that is then applied to their Black Detroit reality.

Beats like this make verses seem effortless but it isn’t easy to have six MCs have such concise timing, heavily employing that ill tri-pattern flow with fluid inflections, punchlines and introspective insights. Bronze’s work on the intro title track is filled with wild cymbals cut short or left roaming on the break and blaring horns constantly reintroducing themselves. The beat and rhymes marriage here is led by Bronze on a beatifully abstract, introspective verse, “Screaming bags of madness/ can it stop?/ Planet Rock/Motown, no manuals out/Fam is left to plan my route/ I vanish, iron chains/ surround my city’s canvas/ Brandish lanterns in overcast moments...” Kevlaar’s great use of congas on “Thirsty Fish” and “Victorious Hoods” or Bronze’s snare work on “Lucy” or “Panic in Vision Park” are more of the many notes on the illness.

Children of a Lesser God has no immediate conclusion to its exploration. It is an album of six Wisemen that indeed create Hip Hop blues, the introspective lyrics of hardcore intensity and sincere awareness tailored with a unified flow, storytelling detail, abstract phrasing and superior word choices and phrasing. And all backed with some of the greatest music today’s Hip Hop has to offer. That these brothers can’t merely be children of a lesser god is the real jewel.

Hollow Dartz
11-01-2010, 11:17 AM
hahaha i went all out on this one...

you feelin this album more than the older stuff or nah?
I'mma have to say yeah, the beats are way better than the last album and they stepped up their bars. It's only like 2-3 tracks I skip, but everything else is on point about this album. Replay value is good.

liquidswords
11-01-2010, 11:51 AM
Solid review. The production is unfuckwitable on the album...I'm gonna get a lotta hate, but the lyrics aren't that amazing. They stepped it up from the last album for sure, but they aren't the most "lyrical" group I've ever heard. The lyrics are mad gutter on Wisemen though. Its a good album.

Mumm Ra
11-01-2010, 01:52 PM
i just been listening as background music on laptop speakers but sounds good so far
the Illness came on and i had to throw the headphones on for that - fucking awesome track, love that vocal sample

V1LLAIN
11-01-2010, 07:49 PM
Average
Only tracks I'm feeling:
- Children of a Lesser God
- Thirsty Fish
- Faith Doctrine
- Corn Liquor Thoughts < (My favorite joint on the album)

Wu Stoneman
11-02-2010, 04:42 PM
gotta bump this. ppl are sleeping on this classic. what's wrong with this forum? this is str8 heat and no ones really talking about it. I don't get it.

the silencer
11-03-2010, 01:34 PM
Review by Sunez (Co-Editor of Knowledge of Self Anthology)
http://lavoerevolt.blogspot.com/2010/10/wisemen-children-of-lesser-god-review.html

The flourishing of Wu discipleship is one of the greatest sights in the saga of Hip Hop music. That the root takes Earth when Bronze Nazareth is realized by The RZA is the revealing premonition that we will receive the innovations of versatile epiphany and expert expansion. After 2006’s classic debut, The Great Migration, Bronze presents himself as the focal point to introduce his extended Detroit roots with the whole Wisemen crew’s debut of 2007, Wisemen Approaching. A debut album that played as an addictive continuation of Migrations’s stripped down hardcore beats with more rugged verses from Bronze. To listen deeper to Wisemen Approaching one can see that great lyricists and unique voices lurk within the fold as brother Kevlaar 7 and Phillie.

3 years pass and the waiting of the fan and the hustling of the artist is revealed as a diligent study of debuts that deepened in listener worth and MCs that have made the craft a profession. The sophomore effort of Children of a Lesser God must be understood as the success of mastered experimentation fortified by developed technique. With Bronze, Kevlaar 7, Phillie and Salute joined by members June Megaladon and Illa Dayz there is a reduction of versatility in flow and steadiness of track tempos as they seek perfection with exquisitely developed mid-tempo rolling breaks they accent with congas con tumbao and soaring soul wails all laced with seasoned rhyming.

In an age where Hip Hop seems scarred by a lack of skill as much as exploited gimmickry the Wisemen have an album that charges through with innovations of sincere musical exploration and a band of MCs that all have incredible mastery for syllable coupling and the imagery projection of their survivalist blues of enlightenment. Like the Wu-Tang Clan itself, each member of the Wisemen are brothers before they rhyme so their convergence on the mic has a completely unified sentiment that is compelling.

Bronze Nazareth is criminally unknown and garners the most respect merely as a great beatmaker. While this is as valid yet incomplete as understanding Michael Jordan as a great defender there is no rest in the earned respect. The tracks add live instrumentation with a band guided by Bronze and Kevlaar with the emphasis on unique snares, roaring bass lines and wailing vocals as if they are modern orchestrators with the spirit of Barry White in them. Whereas Wisemen Approaching may be seen as dynamic sampling from Love Unlimited Orchestra to Candi Staton to wonderful effect, Children... must be recognized as a distinct orchestration. As this is the epitome of the addict’s album, the innovations are felt with constant repetition. Bronze’s work this year has been with 60 Second Assassin’s debut, Remarkable Timing, where much like RZA with Wu’s 8 Diagrams, provided soundscapes that evolve with the inflections of the MC. 60 Sec, more the soul wailing orator of select terms like Greg Nice, was given hard tracks that isolated his verses (i.e. “Remarkable Timing”) or fluctuate with him like the oft kilter breaks on “Fizza Funky.” With Children..., Bronze, now with Kevlaar adding on substantially, offer hard breaks that ride with deliberate pausing that emphasizes on the MC’s rhythms and punchlines.

The marriage of beats and rhymes is exceptional and where we can understand the production advances. The Wisemen are all literally rhyming in a mastered tri-patterned flow that often has a punctuated rhymed syllable as the fourth word note. So many tracks achieve this synergy we can look at the Bronze produced “Corn Liquor Thoughts” where Kevlaar, who has a gift for the wonderfully chosen word, takes the verse from Bronze and on the isolated vocal hook begins, “Spin the cylinder/cyclical spitter/realer than lead spit at the White House pillars...” and on that tri pattern flow the break invites itself right on time. The amazing verse is followed by Phillie on the tri-pattern also going in with “Laser daggers piercing your skin...The power to devour whole cities, oh so Phillie, gotta Fo(ur) Fo(ur) wit me/ my bank rolls sickly/ pockets throwing up, regurgitating fifties/Long Beach ice teas/ chronic by the tree. it’s all I need to rock an m-i-c..” leading to the most deliberate use of the tri-pattern flow by June. June Megaladon, with a voice that has bass and command like the well featured Big Rube, goes in penning the song title to begin the flow, “My Corn Liquor Thoughts/ trouble I brought/ Liver than raw damage/you niggas fall famished...” The track is brilliant with a swooping bass line like a car engine churning and the break propping it up while the soul wails musically support the intentions.

And the tracks are where all this is immaculately attached. Kevlaar is literally the next great musician, with beats and rhymes. His reworking of the Charmels cymbal crash used on RZA’s “C.R.E.A.M.” has all the signature of his young stylings. With beautiful soaring vocals that chime in like the illest zombie Doo Wop group, the break has a marching crunch while that Charmel’s cymbal crash shines like a light in a dark attic finally discovered. Every sample, every type of vocal, every snare, every break, every bassline has a plan that promotes the MC intentions. Kevlaar’s “Faith Doctrine” epitomizes this where beautifully introspective lyrics on the enlightenment of honorable survival are led by a vocal sample of a lecture on principle that is then applied to their Black Detroit reality.

Beats like this make verses seem effortless but it isn’t easy to have six MCs have such concise timing, heavily employing that ill tri-pattern flow with fluid inflections, punchlines and introspective insights. Bronze’s work on the intro title track is filled with wild cymbals cut short or left roaming on the break and blaring horns constantly reintroducing themselves. The beat and rhymes marriage here is led by Bronze on a beatifully abstract, introspective verse, “Screaming bags of madness/ can it stop?/ Planet Rock/Motown, no manuals out/Fam is left to plan my route/ I vanish, iron chains/ surround my city’s canvas/ Brandish lanterns in overcast moments...” Kevlaar’s great use of congas on “Thirsty Fish” and “Victorious Hoods” or Bronze’s snare work on “Lucy” or “Panic in Vision Park” are more of the many notes on the illness.

Children of a Lesser God has no immediate conclusion to its exploration. It is an album of six Wisemen that indeed create Hip Hop blues, the introspective lyrics of hardcore intensity and sincere awareness tailored with a unified flow, storytelling detail, abstract phrasing and superior word choices and phrasing. And all backed with some of the greatest music today’s Hip Hop has to offer. That these brothers can’t merely be children of a lesser god is the real jewel.
nice writing, nice review...thanks for comin thru with that as your very first post..




i wanna see what other people got to say about this LP!!!

THE MASON
11-03-2010, 02:53 PM
after a couple spins, im not enjoying this as much as Wisemen Approaching but imma give it a few more spins.

i dont know what it is, but i think its the beats. they sound really inconsistant, some bangers and some not so much. personally, if both Bronze and Kevlaar are gonna be producing they need to just co produce each beat or let one of em produce the whole thing

Lucy is real dope though, prolly my favourite track right now

Lex Lugor
11-06-2010, 08:07 PM
This album grew on me in a big way. Upon first full listen I would have rated an average/banger. Today I can't help but give it superior, not quite classic but just about.

FYI I skip "Thirsty Fish" and "The Illness 2" EVERY TIME. Im not sure about these tracks.
I want to like Illness but I just can't.

the silencer
11-07-2010, 12:45 PM
This album grew on me in a big way. Upon first full listen I would have rated an average/banger. Today I can't help but give it superior, not quite classic but just about.

FYI I skip "Thirsty Fish" and "The Illness 2" EVERY TIME. Im not sure about these tracks.
I want to like Illness but I just can't.
what's your favorite joints?

Lex Lugor
11-07-2010, 01:59 PM
favorite joints?
-Get You Shot
-I gotta know
-Panic
-Corn liquor thoughts =KEVLAAR!

dude is rhymin better than bronze on alot of these.

josborne3680
11-07-2010, 09:18 PM
"Thirsty Fish" and "Illness 2" are 2 of my favs. To each his own. Peace

EAGLE EYE
11-07-2010, 10:01 PM
some of these reviews should be added to amazon

EAGLE EYE
11-07-2010, 11:14 PM
this album is fire BTW!!!!!

Mumm Ra
11-07-2010, 11:41 PM
after a couple spins, im not enjoying this as much as Wisemen Approaching but imma give it a few more spins.

i dont know what it is, but i think its the beats. they sound really inconsistant, some bangers and some not so much. personally, if both Bronze and Kevlaar are gonna be producing they need to just co produce each beat or let one of em produce the whole thing

Lucy is real dope though, prolly my favourite track right now
pretty much sums up my thoughts

Bloo
11-07-2010, 11:53 PM
Damn Silencer, you put your foot in that review! Feelin this album heavy right now, As a matter of fact I'm gonna give it another spin while I troll the forums

MrDiamondFDC
11-08-2010, 12:56 AM
This is in like no stores.

the silencer
11-08-2010, 12:41 PM
i found a store that had it through this website, just type in your zip code:

http://eonedistribution.com/catalog/AudioInfo.aspx?number=IHI-CD-31

Lex Lugor
11-08-2010, 02:37 PM
haha wow the closest copy is 50 miles away.

na diel
11-11-2010, 01:56 PM
Wisemen have Arrived

Mista JpKoff
11-16-2010, 10:50 AM
I bought the album few days ago, been bumping it a couple times front to back while driving.... I really liked the beats, the live feel of the drums, the jazzy chops and the piano work, really digging the atmosphere. Plus shit is really cohesive except the supa maine beat. Lyrically this is what i expected, much in the vein of Wisemen Approaching so i wont discuss it any longer, just listen.
Since im already sold on everything Bronze touches (been buying literally everything from his camp, solo, group, compilation, featured beats....), i'll express what i see as constructive criticism... First of all im a bit fed up with jewel cases with two-page booklet... if you dont want to include lyrics or words from the artists or pictures or anything related to the concept of the album, could you package cds in digipacks? this really looks better than fuckin jewel cases, its more solid and takes less space!!
Then I wasnt too crazy about some of the flows on the album. I cant point particular tracks at that time but i remember hearing quite a few offbeat verses. Not entire verses but like the first four bars or last four ones on several occasions.
Im really interested in the lyrical talent displayed here, but i cant lie, obviously the beat is the first thing that makes me want to listen to a song, and the FLOWS come close second. So this bothers me a bit, sounds like theres a sort of lack of musicality in the rhyming... like the MCs dont listen or stick to the musical patterns while rapping. I know its extremely difficult to deliver a thoughtful and witty message while having complex rhyme patterns AND an obligation to stick to the rhythms at the same time, but hey thats what makes rap my favorite type of music. So in my humble opinion i think the group could still improve in that department.
That being said im happy to have purchased the cd, ill buy the next one without question.


Beats 9/10 *3
Flows 5/10 *2
Lyrics 9/10 *1
which makes for 7.7/10, a godly score lol

my favorite cuts are Corn Liquor Thoughts, Illness II, Faith Doctrine and Get U Shot

Hollow Dartz
11-17-2010, 07:07 PM
lyrics -3.5/5
beats - 4/5

THE W
12-17-2010, 11:08 AM
love it. lots of replay value.

duotone
12-17-2010, 04:58 PM
damn... gotta cop that next year... forgot about it...

Wu Stoneman
12-28-2010, 12:24 PM
Damn more and more listens, the hotter this is! These guys definitely set themselves apart from the usual Wu Affiliate copycat fold...Great Lyrics on here! SMH if you are not listening to this!

Anyone else listen more and appreciate this more so?

Wu Stoneman
01-20-2011, 12:19 AM
http://www.beattips.com/beattips/2011/01/the-wisemens-children-of-a-lesser-god-classic-street-rap-in-full-effect.html

hide1998
02-03-2011, 09:49 AM
Damn more and more listens, the hotter this is! These guys definitely set themselves apart from the usual Wu Affiliate copycat fold...Great Lyrics on here! SMH if you are not listening to this!

Anyone else listen more and appreciate this more so?

I feel the same way. The more I hear it, the more I appreciate it. They took things in a different direction, sonically, than what I was expecting. That through me off initially, but now it has "normalized" to my ears. Lyrically, they still ripped it, but sonically I'm appreciating it much more than my initial listens.

In retrospect, I'm glad they didn't go the same route sonically as they did with their first release. This way, I get 2 entirely different listening experiences. Truth be told, it would have been difficult for them to top their first release sonically had they went down the same path. It would've, most likely, ended up sounding like a not as good version of their first album. With their 2nd release, however, with the direction they took it, it's an entirely different chamber. I appreciate them for doing that.

It's a must own.:yes:

Kevlaar 7
02-07-2011, 01:50 PM
Thanks to EVERYONE for all the support, and yes this is one of those ALBUMS; COMPLETE albums you have to listen to consistently, to hear all of the inovation and growth involved within the album...Keep spreading the word my good people!! PEACE!

Sophomore LP from The “Wisemen – Children Of A Lesser God”AVAILABLE NOW!!
FeaturingRaekwon, Planet Asia, Big Rube of the Dungeon Family, Victorious aka Crown Vic, & Beace!!
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duotone
03-06-2011, 03:53 AM
i got my copy yesterday...
it came in the same pack with shaolin vs wu tang...
after a few listn to both of em i kinda prefer the wisemen disc...

Kevlaar 7
03-06-2011, 06:30 PM
Thank you for the support @Duotone!! PEACE!

TAURO
03-06-2011, 09:27 PM
This album was a bit disapointing for me, unlike wisemen approaching which I really grew to love and thoroughly enjoy, I've still not been able to warm to this one, it's a bit too laidback for my liking.

duotone
03-07-2011, 02:15 AM
Thank you for the support @Duotone!! PEACE!
i gotte thank you for that disk...
you know, when something is good i pay for it!
its your job and that got to get paied!
i'm late with the buy because i hadnt have that kind of extra money...
we pay >$27 for that US indi discs

i love that laid back shit...
especially the classic soul samples...

THE W
03-13-2011, 09:09 PM
children of a lasser god 10/10
thirsty fish 8.5/10
faith doctrine 10/10
lucy 10/10
get you shot 8.5/10
hurt locker 6/10
the illness 8.5/10
i gotta know 9/10
panic in vision park 9/10
do it again 8.5/10
makes me want a shot 10/10
victorious hood 9/10
corner liquor thoughts 8.5/10


fine wine man....fine wine.