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LORD NOSE
10-31-2010, 05:21 PM
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Fatal Guillotine
10-31-2010, 07:15 PM
peace sunny not to start a whole discussion on Malachi Z york. But what is your opinion on him and a couple of questions if you dont mind answering them

1. what are your thoughts on the holy tablets coming from a muslim perspective ?

2. why is it that some of the true and living (NGE) i come across seem to have a problem with this man and why do they feel his teachings arent right and exact (i read the entries on this site http://www.nuwaubianfacts.com....and the evidence is there).

3. as a muslim how do you view the 360 questions to muslims book he put out

keep in mind this isnt an attack towards you just trying to understand it all

food for thought
10-31-2010, 08:10 PM
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this is a good speech. i think i posted it here before.

there are several good malachi videos on youtube

Fatal Guillotine
11-02-2010, 11:14 AM
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i honestly dont know what to feel about this man, most nge members are against him as well as members of the moorish science temple

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-02-2010, 11:33 AM
everyone should learn to care for those less fortunate, regardless of yours or their religion.

but it's religion that unites and divides people, caring for the less fortunate shouldn't be exclusive to any one religion. instead of caring religion makes people hate others who are less fortunate or of other religion. money also unites and divides people. they work in the same way.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-02-2010, 12:04 PM
what's so wrong in investing money to make money?

instead of investing in me why don't people invest in something decent? i ain't worth it.

Uncle Steezo
11-05-2010, 03:29 PM
does it include caring on the internet? i hear thats a bad thing.

Dokuro
11-05-2010, 06:11 PM
Death to Allah
fuck peace i need natural selection nature in it self is chaotic
when things arn't moving your not living war is apart of life embrasse the beast with in you and you will be hole
we are man and the devil

when you focus entirely on the light your are empty and God draws on that emptiness and makes you a slave




god damn it stop the ohm-ing that shits like jagged needles continuously poking you in the head

food for thought
11-06-2010, 02:10 AM
great dane,

this is obviously not meant for you dude.

and who said anything about allah dude?


clean up on isle 4 please. thank you.

Dokuro
11-06-2010, 02:21 AM
great dane,

this is obviously not meant for you dude.

and who said anything about allah dude?


clean up on isle 4 please. thank you.

God = Allah = Yahweh = all mighty = Shit Stain = the light = ect

Tere is nothing wrong with sharing my point-a-view on a forum about reason a critical thinking. However i still demand a sup forum to be mad to house the religions opinions. Until then i will cut my ideals in any conversion brought up about any religion or spiritual thinking, that does not share my view of spirituality.

LONDON!
11-06-2010, 07:19 AM
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i honestly dont know what to feel about this man, most nge members are against him as well as members of the moorish science temple

heads can say what they want about malachi z york's teachings, its a free world, but heads have to overstand that malachi was set up on those fake pedophille charges, he was set up by his adopted son jacob york who is the owner of big cat records in georgia were malachi moved his organization too, feds down south had a hard on for malachi and started hating on him and jacob was the one running a underage prostiution ring and grooming and molesting little kids and feds got them to set up malachi because of the animosity the younga's in his organization had against his strict living conditions he was running in that organization and personal grudges they had against malachi over personal family issues they had wit malachi over issues to do wit some of there mothers and other stuff

malachi is big in my eyes, big him up and salute, free malachi z york

LORD NOSE
11-06-2010, 10:38 AM
peace sunny not to start a whole discussion on Malachi Z york. But what is your opinion on him and a couple of questions if you dont mind answering them

1. what are your thoughts on the holy tablets coming from a muslim perspective ?


The Holy Tablets is one of the most important books in my life

2. why is it that some of the true and living (NGE) i come across seem to have a problem with this man and why do they feel his teachings arent right and exact (i read the entries on this site http://www.nuwaubianfacts.com....and the evidence is there).

people have a problem with him because they have problems with their self - immaturity -
the mature NGE members see him as a great man who has helped us grow to a higher level of existence

3. as a muslim how do you view the 360 questions to muslims book he put out


i don't consider myself a muslim and i not a representative of the NOI - i'm not exclusive to any one group - the NOI is my home - NGE is my family
Nuwap is my school - the Muslim community is the help - the black church is the work

keep in mind this isnt an attack towards you just trying to understand it all

if you want to understand it, let go of the blocks that cause you to see it all wrong - i'm not looking for Yorks faults and shortcomings - i read and listen to what he has to say - he's said and written alot, and i've learned from what he's said and written - all the other stuff in his life are the stuff in his life and that stuff should not hinder me from learning from him - so i'll focus on the stuff that he's given us for our own growth instead of focusing on his personal flaws and shortcomings

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i honestly dont know what to feel about this man, most nge members are against him as well as members of the moorish science temple


they are against him ?


that shit sounds primitive to me

everyone should learn to care for those less fortunate, regardless of yours or their religion.


some members of these religions see everyone who isn't a part of their religion as less fortunate - instead of helping those they see as less fortunate, they try to scare and ridicule those outside of the religion - in high hopes that they'll submit and join -

but it's religion that unites and divides people, caring for the less fortunate shouldn't be exclusive to any one religion. instead of caring religion makes people hate others who are less fortunate or of other religion. money also unites and divides people. they work in the same way.

having sincere respect and concern for others is how we are encouraged to be in the NOI - race,religion,etc...does not hinder the shower of respect,concern and sincere love - Scientologist are great with this also - people are growing tired of all the bullshit fighting

Fatal Guillotine
11-06-2010, 03:26 PM
thanks for the info sunny i have mix views towards him

i heard about the early allegations and the ones he's in the belly of the beast for now. as a know i drop that link (http://www.nuwaubianfacts.com) and i know how his son conspired to the setup (real fucked up imho)

however the part that intrigues me is the reptilian theory that york talks about because im a member on Icke site it isnt the first time i heard this from him or from Credo Mutwa. i also remember the lessons pertaining to the motherplane from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

i was corresponding with a brother from york camp thru email

what the don't get is how some people will say he isn't right & exact whats your thoughts on this.

and there also was a allegation he plagiarize the kyballion in the SACRED WISDOM OF TEHUTI


what you think

Fatal Guillotine
11-06-2010, 03:36 PM
in regards to the moorish temple i heard he went when on an attack with the NOI and NGE, a god told me he was actually a sovereign around the time when these accusation surface....they say he was involved with the MST and a rift was created

NOW i dont know if it was because of the association and the allegations or what?

personally i a spiritually person i take what i can from these teachers, the question should be "what can you take from him"

there should be more UNITY with the conscious community

im now hearing their a disagreement with this Seti guy (i'll keep my opinon to myself on him) and the NGE/NOI

V4D3R
11-06-2010, 03:54 PM
I can't give you any rep Sunny -need to spread- but props/respect for the tremendous steps you took this past year in your journey. We back where we started - I'm the student following a master in disguise.

I want my name changed to 4KHEN if possible.

LORD NOSE
11-06-2010, 08:33 PM
V - you gave me allot - if i'm saying anything that is beneficial to you or anyone else, you help put me in that zone - when we fight, we are at an animal stage - now that we realize that we are animals, we can go on and be God - Peace man - and the love is sincere

V4D3R
11-06-2010, 08:38 PM
ii-wy em hotep

LORD NOSE
11-06-2010, 09:44 PM
thanks for the info sunny i have mix views towards him

i heard about the early allegations and the ones he's in the belly of the beast for now. as a know i drop that link (http://www.nuwaubianfacts.com) and i know how his son conspired to the setup (real fucked up imho)

however the part that intrigues me is the reptilian theory that york talks about because im a member on Icke site it isnt the first time i heard this from him or from Credo Mutwa. i also remember the lessons pertaining to the motherplane from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

i was corresponding with a brother from york camp thru email

what the don't get is how some people will say he isn't right & exact whats your thoughts on this.

and there also was a allegation he plagiarize the kyballion in the SACRED WISDOM OF TEHUTI


what you think

in regards to the moorish temple i heard he went when on an attack with the NOI and NGE, a god told me he was actually a sovereign around the time when these accusation surface....they say he was involved with the MST and a rift was created

NOW i dont know if it was because of the association and the allegations or what?

personally i a spiritually person i take what i can from these teachers, the question should be "what can you take from him"

there should be more UNITY with the conscious community

im now hearing their a disagreement with this Seti guy (i'll keep my opinon to myself on him) and the NGE/NOI


Peace man - the older ones realize that they are all on different levels of understanding and seeing - such are these sects and divisions - different opinions about different beliefs passionately conveyed to billions for a small fee......

People need to learn to Care

Dokuro
11-07-2010, 01:23 AM
we do not need to care only to survive.



The meek shall make the road of which progress walks.
-The Great Dane

Fatal Guillotine
11-07-2010, 04:21 PM
Peace man - the older ones realize that they are all on different levels of understanding and seeing - such are these sects and divisions - different opinions about different beliefs passionately conveyed to billions for a small fee......

People need to learn to Care

did you just freestyle..lol

but yeah i feel where you coming from sunny







3 questions

1.)whats your thoughts on both allegations on Dr. York-El (the first and second)

2.) also what other books have you read from Malachi Z York that you benefited from?

3. what is the best way to cop his book(i currently have the holy tablets in pdf and man from rizq on pdf) let me know something bruh


Salaam

LORD NOSE
11-08-2010, 10:53 AM
did you just freestyle..lol

but yeah i feel where you coming from sunny


it wasn't a rhyme







3 questions

1.)whats your thoughts on both allegations on Dr. York-El (the first and second)


i believe he was set up -

2.) also what other books have you read from Malachi Z York that you benefited from?


the true star of Al Islam - is one - but i've read so many scrolls - i would just suggest you go and pick up a subject that interest you - he's written so much on dam near everything

3. what is the best way to cop his book(i currently have the holy tablets in pdf and man from rizq on pdf) let me know something bruh


go to the official Nuwaubian site and ask around - i'm in cognegro right now so i cannot go and ask about for you


Salaam


Sincere Peace Man

Fatal Guillotine
11-09-2010, 01:52 PM
it wasn't a rhyme

maybe ist the way i read it -shrugs-








i believe he was set up -




the true star of Al Islam - is one - but i've read so many scrolls - i would just suggest you go and pick up a subject that interest you - he's written so much on dam near everything




go to the official Nuwaubian site and ask around - i'm in cognegro right now so i cannot go and ask about for you





Sincere Peace Man

thanks man i think i know what site your referring to there a forum member who took the time out to post the content from scrolls and Sons Of the Green Light series

thanks alot

Respect Sun

Iron Ninja
11-11-2010, 06:15 PM
The NGE, the NOI and the Sunnis ran that spook lovin' Z York out of NY. Sunny is funny and someone needs to have a word to the Nuwaubians about web design lol.

"The worst devil is the black devil - cause you never see him comin'"
-The Father.

V4D3R
11-21-2010, 03:24 PM
The Jews ran Jesus out of Jerusalem too...^^

Fatal Guillotine
11-21-2010, 03:33 PM
The Jews ran Jesus out of Jerusalem too...^^

true and it shows he didnt read me and sunny's q&a

immaturity---keeps us from opening our minds, there are things a muslim can teach a jew and vice versa and that things that a hindu can teach a christian.
people have a tendency to point the finger but wont do the proper studying nor embrace malachi z york or any of this brothers with an openmind

peace vader how the reading of the holy tablets coming along, g?

V4D3R
11-21-2010, 03:59 PM
^^i'm in chapter 1 still which i have read before thanks to Sunny 3-4 years ago - trying to get deeper into it but Black Ops got a dude trippin.

Something in chapter one got to me. Before I read this - I knew somehow that Yahweh/Allah/Anu where one and the same.

Fatal Guillotine
11-21-2010, 04:03 PM
yeah im doing the same im one though, i hop from one chapter to the next (eagerness) theres a brother whose in his camp that i correspond with im trying to get his books (all of them) i know there a site explodingdna.com where the scrolls are written in text form.

Fatal Guillotine
11-23-2010, 12:43 PM
heads can say what they want about malachi z york's teachings, its a free world, but heads have to overstand that malachi was set up on those fake pedophille charges, he was set up by his adopted son jacob york who is the owner of big cat records in georgia were malachi moved his organization too, feds down south had a hard on for malachi and started hating on him and jacob was the one running a underage prostiution ring and grooming and molesting little kids and feds got them to set up malachi because of the animosity the younga's in his organization had against his strict living conditions he was running in that organization and personal grudges they had against malachi over personal family issues they had wit malachi over issues to do wit some of there mothers and other stuff

malachi is big in my eyes, big him up and salute, free malachi z york


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Fatal Guillotine
12-07-2010, 05:44 PM
i know myself sunny vader wunded and food for thought knows whats up

i dont think the other forum members ready for york's teachings

LORD NOSE
12-08-2010, 01:20 AM
is satisfying our desires more important than anything else ?

Mumm Ra
12-08-2010, 01:25 AM
depends what your desires are based on

LORD NOSE
12-08-2010, 01:26 AM
i know myself sunny vader wunded and food for thought knows whats up

i dont think the other forum members ready for york's teachings



they would already have to have the teachings to really overstand the scrolls and purpose -

his work is like a magnifying glass over all the works of those before him and after him


all these jewels in the head of a cow though - what is it worth - who is bold enough to be the teachings though ?

LORD NOSE
12-08-2010, 01:27 AM
depends what your desires are based on


the start of any desire is the beginning of sleep and death

Fatal Guillotine
12-08-2010, 05:04 PM
they would already have to have the teachings to really overstand the scrolls and purpose -

his work is like a magnifying glass over all the works of those before him and after him


all these jewels in the head of a cow though - what is it worth - who is bold enough to be the teachings though ?

Indeed

dont understand you second comment

Fatal Guillotine
12-19-2010, 03:07 PM
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Fatal Guillotine
12-19-2010, 03:09 PM
Canibus knows about them holy Tablets

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LORD NOSE
12-19-2010, 11:20 PM
Indeed

dont understand you second comment



he makes everything clearer and easier to understand -

he also expands other works

Fatal Guillotine
12-20-2010, 04:22 PM
he makes everything clearer and easier to understand -

he also expands other works

verrrrrrrry true ive been reading alot of his booklets from back in his ansaru days somethings i didnt know about like the noi usage of the 6-point star being use which he back up with words from The Honorable Elijah Muhammad from an excerpt from a Muhammad Speaks Article.

i been knew about malachi z york-under another name, i was skeptical

but im glad i talk to you sunny, for real g. because now that im awoke by this man, i still question those who chose to be critical yet have a problem with the Annunanki which Z. York speak of in the Holy Tablets But agree with the Motherplane, seeing that they both coincide i dont understand

and if not that Sunny, the brothers AND sisters who are critical of him havent build with the community inside of Nuwaup,g and it pisses me off

were fully aware of the fbi and cointelpro infiltration with the situation od dear brother Malcolm X(HWON) but when it comes to Dr. York you get brother from the NGE calling him "Dr.Pork" or his info isnt right and exact.....whose to say the the reader interperation isnt right and exact if someone read the Hadith it should be read where it is back up by the Quran (a guide). these brothers dont have a guide so there getting there own interperations

its hard for me to deal with some of the members NGE and The NOI cause of this(i still have many friends within both) , Sunny. part of me chooses not to even deal with them if they aren't open-minded.

thanks for that

Fatal Guillotine
12-21-2010, 02:19 PM
sunny i have a question what you think about the accusation of him getting first crack at members wifes when he was within the Ansaru Allah Community

also are you familiar with his thoughts on WD FARD and Sheikh Dawud

READ SHEIKH DAOUD VS WD FARD, HE DISSES THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF NOI, CALLS FARD A WHITE BOY SENT BY THE CIA TO ANNOY CERTAIN MUSLIMS IN USA IE DREW ALI AND SHEIKH DAOUD ETC...MAN HE EVEN SAYS ELIJAH MUHAMMAD ACTED LIKE A P[AISTANI, IE WITH HIS JINNA-CAP, HE GOT IT FROM A PAKISTANI


i also heard such things as:

His whole alien steez is a Sitchin and Raelin ripoff. He jacked the number 19 in the Qu'ran from Rashid Khalifa. He jacked the whole Native American connection with blacks in America from Noble Drew Ali (which he unsucessfully tried using to get his child porn cases thrown out, in which his defense tried using that as an effort to show the court he was insane---and the judge didnt buy it). The list goes on and on.

His "translations" are horrible at best. He wants to disregard everybody elses interpretations as if he's the master of language.

and that about 75% of his scrolls are plagarized

Fatal Guillotine
12-21-2010, 02:23 PM
**********READ THE FOLLOWING*******

Yes, Sheik Dawoud was a Sunni Muslim. In the late
1970's, YORK wrote a book called "SHEIK DAWOUD, FATHER
OF ORTHODOX ISLAM IN THE WEST" . Sheik Dawoud did
everything the same way any other SUNNI Muslim would
have done things. If you ask me, York had some Insider
information on Terrorist activity that was going to
happen in New York City so he told his followers to
STOP BEING MUSLIM. He never told us why but he did
tell us "YOU WILL KNOW WHY". When you factor in that
Osama Bin Laden was living in SUDAN at the time and
the ANSARUALLAH was the biggest MOSQUE in NYC, it only
seemed logical that the TERRORIST would try to forge
some saught of ALLIENCE with the ANSARUALLAH. YORK did
not want to get involved yet knew that a terrorist
plot was going to take place so he all of the sudden
Stopped being Muslims. He insulted the Religion. One
of his favorite quotes were "NOW THAT I LEFT THE
WORLDS DIRTIEST RELIGION, NOW I CAN EAT THE WORLDS
DIRTIEST FOOD (PIG)

York was teaching ISLAM for almost 25 years until he
dropped it. He claims that he wanted to teach NUWAUBU
in the late 1960's but insisr that people were not
ready for it. York claims that he wrote a few books in
the late 1960's about Nuwaubu but I seriouslly doubt
that he is the original author if there was one
because I didnt know about the Original Nuwaubu
lessons until AFTER he came out with Nuwaubu in 1994.
For all I know he could have made those lessons up
AFTER 1992.

I have caught YORK in so many lies, its hard to
believe anything he says anymore. YORK claims in his
1993 publication called "THE BOOK OF THE FIVE
PERCENTERS" that he is the one who taught MALCOLM X
how to make SALAT while in EGYPT. YORK would have been
16 years old. YET records show that YORK was in JAIL
around that time

York claims to be a be 33/720 Degree!!! Yet I have yet
to find a Nuwaubian that can tell me what the 73rd
Degree is. ( I dont even know the names of the Degrees
after 33 ) Nuwaubians dont understand that when the 5%
say they have 120 Degrees, its Symbol of 1/3 of
Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding. I has nothing to
do with the actual number of Questions.

York is somewhat fluent in Arabic to the point where
he can hold a conversation. But he did not learn it in
Sudan and Egypt. He learned it privately in Brooklyn.
The Arabic Teachers who were there to teach the
Children would also teach York. York didnt go to
Sudann to go to school, York went there to travel and
met the Mahdi Family because York was also a
represenitive of SHEIK DAWOUD. The Conversations
between the Mahdi Family and York were conducted in
English. Sadiq Al Mahdi was educated in England and
speaks Fluent English

LORD NOSE
12-21-2010, 05:38 PM
sunny i have a question what you think about the accusation of him getting first crack at members wifes when he was within the Ansaru Allah Community

they are accusations - i don't know him personally

also are you familiar with his thoughts on WD FARD and Sheikh Dawud

i've read some of his thoughts on Fard and The Minister

READ SHEIKH DAOUD VS WD FARD, HE DISSES THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF NOI, CALLS FARD A WHITE BOY SENT BY THE CIA TO ANNOY CERTAIN MUSLIMS IN USA IE DREW ALI AND SHEIKH DAOUD ETC...MAN HE EVEN SAYS ELIJAH MUHAMMAD ACTED LIKE A P[AISTANI, IE WITH HIS JINNA-CAP, HE GOT IT FROM A PAKISTANI


York said many things to rip people out of what they were in in order to give them what they needed - if he pointed out a flaw and widened it, then he was doing his job - i didn't like it at the time, but i see the significance of it now


i also heard such things as:

His whole alien steez is a Sitchin and Raelin ripoff.


if there is no truth in it then it's all a rip off

if there is truth in it, how can any one man claim it unless it was made up out of his imagination...and even then,if making it up out of ones imagination is possible, then there must be some form of truth in that thought for it to even manifest itself in ones mind


He jacked the number 19 in the Qu'ran from Rashid Khalifa.

that's like saying that the west coast jacked Hip Hop from new york


He jacked the whole Native American connection with blacks in America from Noble Drew Ali (which he unsucessfully tried using to get his child porn cases thrown out, in which his defense tried using that as an effort to show the court he was insane---and the judge didnt buy it). The list goes on and on.


many things were said about him - i know how it feels to have people who don't know me describe me to others

His "translations" are horrible at best. He wants to disregard everybody elses interpretations as if he's the master of language.

i enjoy his translations - he list everyone elses along with his

and that about 75% of his scrolls are plagarized

he inspired allot of people in a positive way

LORD NOSE
12-21-2010, 05:44 PM
**********READ THE FOLLOWING*******

Yes, Sheik Dawoud was a Sunni Muslim. In the late
1970's, YORK wrote a book called "SHEIK DAWOUD, FATHER
OF ORTHODOX ISLAM IN THE WEST" . Sheik Dawoud did
everything the same way any other SUNNI Muslim would
have done things. If you ask me, York had some Insider
information on Terrorist activity that was going to
happen in New York City so he told his followers to
STOP BEING MUSLIM. He never told us why but he did
tell us "YOU WILL KNOW WHY". When you factor in that
Osama Bin Laden was living in SUDAN at the time and
the ANSARUALLAH was the biggest MOSQUE in NYC, it only
seemed logical that the TERRORIST would try to forge
some saught of ALLIENCE with the ANSARUALLAH. YORK did
not want to get involved yet knew that a terrorist
plot was going to take place so he all of the sudden
Stopped being Muslims. He insulted the Religion. One
of his favorite quotes were "NOW THAT I LEFT THE
WORLDS DIRTIEST RELIGION, NOW I CAN EAT THE WORLDS
DIRTIEST FOOD (PIG)

York was teaching ISLAM for almost 25 years until he
dropped it. He claims that he wanted to teach NUWAUBU
in the late 1960's but insisr that people were not
ready for it. York claims that he wrote a few books in
the late 1960's about Nuwaubu but I seriouslly doubt
that he is the original author if there was one
because I didnt know about the Original Nuwaubu
lessons until AFTER he came out with Nuwaubu in 1994.
For all I know he could have made those lessons up
AFTER 1992.

I have caught YORK in so many lies, its hard to
believe anything he says anymore. YORK claims in his
1993 publication called "THE BOOK OF THE FIVE
PERCENTERS" that he is the one who taught MALCOLM X
how to make SALAT while in EGYPT. YORK would have been
16 years old. YET records show that YORK was in JAIL
around that time

York claims to be a be 33/720 Degree!!! Yet I have yet
to find a Nuwaubian that can tell me what the 73rd
Degree is. ( I dont even know the names of the Degrees
after 33 ) Nuwaubians dont understand that when the 5%
say they have 120 Degrees, its Symbol of 1/3 of
Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding. I has nothing to
do with the actual number of Questions.

York is somewhat fluent in Arabic to the point where
he can hold a conversation. But he did not learn it in
Sudan and Egypt. He learned it privately in Brooklyn.
The Arabic Teachers who were there to teach the
Children would also teach York. York didnt go to
Sudann to go to school, York went there to travel and
met the Mahdi Family because York was also a
represenitive of SHEIK DAWOUD. The Conversations
between the Mahdi Family and York were conducted in
English. Sadiq Al Mahdi was educated in England and
speaks Fluent English


somebody wrote that

how well does that somebody know York ?

Fatal Guillotine
12-21-2010, 06:38 PM
so how would you deal with york teachings as well as the allegations

LORD NOSE
12-21-2010, 07:40 PM
why would i deal with the allegations ?

Barry Whyte
12-22-2010, 12:17 PM
i don't trust this guy

Fatal Guillotine
12-22-2010, 06:20 PM
they are accusations - i don't know him personally



i've read some of his thoughts on Fard and The Minister


AND what do you think?

York said many things to rip people out of what they were in in order to give them what they needed - if he pointed out a flaw and widened it, then he was doing his job - i didn't like it at the time, but i see the significance of it now

it significance being?



if there is no truth in it then it's all a rip off

if there is truth in it, how can any one man claim it unless it was made up out of his imagination...and even then,if making it up out of ones imagination is possible, then there must be some form of truth in that thought for it to even manifest itself in ones mind


i agree

that's like saying that the west coast jacked Hip Hop from new york





many things were said about him - i know how it feels to have people who don't know me describe me to others



i enjoy his translations - he list everyone elses along with his

but what about his own interperation under the imam isa alias

he inspired allot of people in a positive way

look forward to your answers

LORD NOSE
12-22-2010, 07:55 PM
I think that they are his thoughts - and i can understand him


the significance of him inspiring people to really think about what it is they believe is a significant move toward awakening



his translations are good IMO

Fatal Guillotine
12-23-2010, 11:37 AM
what about the madam bravaksty connections and manly p hall

what about him taking the shamballa and plagarizing it

LORD NOSE
12-23-2010, 11:59 AM
what about the madam bravaksty connections and manly p hall

what about him taking the shamballa and plagarizing it



what about them ?

what about the effects of his works on the people

what are the effected people saying


people are going to have problems with you no matter what

people will accuse you of shit no matter what

and you will make mistakes that'll have some people throw all of your work away


people are people - instead of finding all of the shit that'll make you shake your head at him, study what he taught and use what you can to bring you and yours upward

Fatal Guillotine
12-23-2010, 12:14 PM
you have a point, sorry it it came across like im trying to diss him(im not)

i am intrigued though

specifically the claims of being indian around the allegations surface.


im trying to find more of the ansaru allah books.....no luck though

any help?

Fatal Guillotine
12-23-2010, 12:15 PM
and you still havent told me what books you own, lol

LORD NOSE
12-23-2010, 12:19 PM
i don't have any of my scrolls with me

or my tablets

i'm nomadic

i don't remember the titles to all the scrolls i've read and owned


go to brooklyn - in the train stations you might run into someone selling the scrolls

Fatal Guillotine
12-24-2010, 04:48 PM
this is an email bout the questions and allegations from the brother i told you about


1. Q. have a question what you think about the accusation of him getting first crack at members wifes when he was within the Ansaru Allah Communit.

A. As i tried to answer this same question a couple of emails ago, it is hard for me to comment on the Master's personal life. Ant attempt at this by me would be a direct lie and misleading in every way. For years the Master teacher told us the we should stay out of people's bedrooms. I my self must inform you that I only focused on the esoteric information that he had, was and will continue to put into the public. my main focus was reading as many of his books that i could get my hands on. Sorry for not being able to help you with this question.

2. Q. also are you familiar with his thoughts on WD FARD and Sheikh Dawud
A. Yes, I am familiar with his teachings on Shaikh Daud and the teachings of the NIO under Elijah Muhammad. I believe he already addressed if not all of the questions that can be asked on this subject. Please read the book " Shaikh Daud vs WD Farad". This will help to answer all of the questions you may have about the subject at this time.

3. Q.His whole alien steez is a Sitchin and Raelin ripoff.
A. This is another attempt to not give credit where credit is due. The master teacher was teaching this information since 1967, when he came teaching nuwaubu "Right Knowledge". When he first started teaching this information, the people was not ready, so he started teaching religion, because that's what we wanted at the time. he taught us about the Annunaki, Neteru, and all the beings that we descended from, in an attempt to show us where we came from. Bear in mind, at that time in our history, there was in fact teachers from all over the world teaching exoteric and esoteric information, however he was the first person to show and prove that we (SO-called Afro Americans) had a connection to the stars. We cannot deny him that. Sure there are many teachers teaching this level of information, but we must acknowledge that it was Amunubi Roak Ptah who brought it to his own people. who else aid that so-called blacks were descendants of beings from the stars? Does it matter where the information came from? Sitchin focused on Sumeria, and Rale focuses on the same thing the master was teaching except he reaching out to white America. Don't believe me check it out foe yourself.

4. Q. He jacked the number 19 in the Qu'ran from Rashid Khalifa.
A. Seriously? If you would read some of the books that Imam Issa was putting forth in the 70's and 80's you would bear witness to the facts that only came from him. Once again, i cannot deny that there are other teachers out there, but I cannot deny that when I read his books, no one else is going into the language step by step to break down every tid bit of information such as he did. So to say he stole the number 19 from Rashid Kalifa, coincidentally which means successor (Khalifa) is a lie, because the number 19 is known through out the muslim world, however he was the only one to show that the prophecy related to him and the mission.


5. Q. He jacked the whole Native American connection with blacks in America from Noble Drew Ali (which he unsuccessfully tried using to get his child porn cases thrown out, in which his defense tried using that as an effort to show the court he was insane---and the judge didnt buy it.
A. The Master Teacher has show time and time again his connection by way of his mother being native American, how he is apart of the yamasee tribes. Read "Lets set the Record Straight".

6. Q. I have caught YORK in so many lies, its hard to believe anything he says anymore. YORK claims in his 1993 publication called "THE BOOK OF THE FIVE PERCENTERS" that he is the one who taught MALCOLM X how to make SALAT while in EGYPT. YORK would have been 16 years old. YET records show that YORK was in JAIL around that time York claims to be a be 33/720 Degree!!! Yet I have yet to find a Nuwaubian that can tell me what the 73rd Degree is. ( I don't even know the names of the Degrees after 33 ) Nuwaubians don't understand that when the 5% say they have 120 Degrees, its Symbol of 1/3 of Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding. I has nothing to do with the actual number of Questions.
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A. Okay, ask whom ever told you this to show proof. being a student I never heard of this at all. There is no 73rd degree, who ever is making this claim is misleading you.5% percenters has always have problem with us, because of "THE BOOK OF THE FIVE PERCENTERS", in which the master told them to get of the streets and return back to being under the nation of Islam.Don't believe me check this out for yourself.

7.Q. York is somewhat fluent in Arabic to the point where he can hold a conversation. But he did not learn it in Sudan and Egypt. He learned it privately in Brooklyn.The Arabic Teachers who were there to teach the Children would also teach York. York didnt go to Sudann to go to school, York went there to travel and met the Mahdi Family because York was also a represenitive of SHEIK DAWOUD. The Conversations between the Mahdi Family and York were conducted in English. Sadiq Al Mahdi was educated in England and speaks Fluent English
A. Tell whom ever is making these claims to put forth the proof to support such allegations. Arabic was one of the languages that we were required to learn as muslims. As a matter of fact he would bring in teachers from Sudan to teach classical Arabic in those days, so who ever made this up is misleading you.Concerning the Mahdi family, all you have to do is check out the many publications that he put forth showing his family tree, which has never been disputed by any in Sudan. Can they deny that?

LORD NOSE
12-24-2010, 09:04 PM
Let's set the Record Straight is a good book - allot of info on Him

Fatal Guillotine
12-26-2010, 01:45 PM
i don't have any of my scrolls with me

or my tablets

i'm nomadic

i don't remember the titles to all the scrolls i've read and owned


go to brooklyn - in the train stations you might run into someone selling the scrolls

same here


as far as books i have:

what and where is hell?
the holy quran part 3
the messenger is right and exact 1 & 2
muslim man
muslim woman
he's a disease
question and debates series #6 -(this is the books where he explains the word hajj comes from a hebrew word and answers the quesron as ti why he went by so many names)

LORD NOSE
12-26-2010, 02:02 PM
there are sooo many scrolls yo

"Your Potential" is also a good scroll

Fatal Guillotine
12-26-2010, 04:53 PM
+ Rep ,going to have to check that out

i can hardly find anything under his imam isa alias online

Fatal Guillotine
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