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Dokuro
12-07-2010, 11:34 PM
i am sick and fucking tired of all of you saying. "I follow god because he set my people free" you are still a slave it was the Christians, the people of god how enslaved your ancestors. In fact god supports slavery.




all you Muslims aren't getting out of this because its the same fucking god



However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)




now if your such good Christians put them on nigger

http://www.familycourtchronicles.com/philosophy/engagement/shackles.jpg




yah i went there

Visionz
12-08-2010, 12:07 AM
You broke some new ground with this one. It's so thought provoking that my head almost exploded. Thank God for indoor bicycle helmets. I mean who wouldve thought to attack Christians and then use nothing but Old Testament verses? Only a being of your supreme intellect, that's who.

LORD NOSE
12-08-2010, 12:17 AM
i am sick and fucking tired of all of you saying. "I follow god because he set my people free" you are still a slave it was the Christians, the people of god how enslaved your ancestors. In fact god supports slavery.




all you Muslims aren't getting out of this because its the same fucking god






now if your such good Christians put them on nigger






yah i went there


it takes time to purge away our customs and beliefs and make way for the new and the true - some of us even try to sneak in and incorporate our old ways and twist them up in the new - to some it stands out - it almost never stands out to the one actually doing it

theheavens
12-08-2010, 12:31 AM
black christians ARE uncle toms, plain and simple. Malcolm X broke away from that thanks to Islam

Visionz
12-08-2010, 01:03 AM
When you're talking about a group with such a large number a blanket statement like that will never be true. If MLK was an uncle Tom why was he being spied on by the FBI and ended up with a bullet in his head?

I'd like to think that those of sound mind can find a mutual respect for fellow humans regardless of belief or culture.

Dokuro
12-08-2010, 01:05 AM
You broke some new ground with this one. It's so thought provoking that my head almost exploded. Thank God for indoor bicycle helmets. I mean who wouldve thought to attack Christians and then use nothing but Old Testament verses? Only a being of your supreme intellect, that's who.

dude Luke, Ephesians & 1 Timothy are new testament

and the the most strait forward supporting ones

try and keep up

the old says how to treat your slave
and the new says how slaves should act


and for those of you Malcolm x is just as guilty of this


Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is a special command that Muhammad handed down to himself, allowing himself virtually unlimited sex. Others are limited to four wives, but may also have sex with an unlimited number of slaves, as the following verse make clear:

Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse allows the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30).

Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible.

Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."

Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness.

Qur'an (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man's).

Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah." Yet another confirmation that the slave is is not equal to the master. In this case it is plain that the slave owes his status to Allah's will. (According to 16:71, the owner should be careful about insulting Allah by bestowing Allah's gifts on slaves - those whom the god of Islam has not favored).



Bukhari (80:753) - "The Prophet said, 'The freed slave belongs to the people who have freed him.'"

Bukhari (52:255) - The slave who accepts Islam and continues serving his Muslim master will receive a double reward in heaven.

Bukhari (41.598) - Slaves are property. They cannot be freed if an owner has outstanding debt, but rather used to pay off the debt.

Bukhari (62:137) - An account of women taken as slaves in battle by Muhammad's men after their husbands and fathers were killed. The woman were raped with Muhammad's approval.

Bukhari (34:432) - Another account of females taken captive and raped with Muhammad's approval. In this case it is evident that the Muslims intend on selling the women after raping them because they are concerned about devaluing their price by impregnating them. Muhammad is asked about coitus interruptus.

Bukhari (47.765) - A woman is rebuked by Muhammad for freeing a slave girl. The prophet tells her that she would have gotten a greater heavenly reward by giving her to a relative (as a slave).

Bukhari (34:351) - Muhammad sells a slave for money. He was thus a slave trader.

Bukhari (72:734) - Some contemporary Muslims in the West, where slavery is believed to be a horrible crime, are reluctant to believe that Muhammad owned slaves. This is just one of many places in the Hadith where a reference is made to a human being owned by Muhammad. In this case, the slave is of African descent.

Muslim 3901 - Muhammad trades away two black slaves for one Muslim slave.

Muslim 4112 - A man freed six slaves on the event of his death, but Muhammad reversed the emancipation and kept four in slavery to himself. He cast lots to determine which two to free.

Bukhari (47:743) - Muhammad's own pulpit - from which he preached Islam - was built with slave labor on his command.

Bukhari (59:637) - "The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, 'Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)?' When we reached the Prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, 'O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?' I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumlus.'" Muhammad approved of his men having sex with slaves, as this episode involving his son-in-law, Ali, clearly proves. This hadith refutes the modern apologists who pretend that slaves were really "wives," since Muhammad had forbidden Ali from marrying another woman as long as Fatima (his favorite daughter) was living.

Abu Dawud (2150) - "The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Qur'an 4:24) 'And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.'" This is the background for verse 4:24 of the Qur'an. Not only does Allah grant permission for women to be captured and raped, but allows it to even be done in front of their husbands.

Ibn Ishaq (734) - A slave girl is given a "violent beating" by Ali in the presence of Muhammad, who does nothing about it.

Ibn Ishaq (693) - "Then the apostle sent Sa-d b. Zayd al-Ansari, brother of Abdu'l-Ashal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons." Muhammad trades away women captured from the Banu Qurayza tribe to non-Muslim slave traders for property. (Their men had been executed after surrendering peacefully without a fight).

Umdat al-Salik (Reliance of the Traveller) (o9.13) - According to Sharia, when a child or woman is taken captive by Muslims, they become slaves by the fact of their capture. A captured woman's previous marriage is immediately annulled.

its the same fucking god

Dokuro
12-08-2010, 01:11 AM
When you're talking about a group with such a large number a blanket statement like that will never be true. If MLK was an uncle Tom why was he being spied on by the FBI and ended up with a bullet in his head?

I'd like to think that those of sound mind can find a mutual respect for fellow humans regardless of belief or culture.

as i recall it MLK not only knew he was being spied on he talk with the man doing the spying in fact they were good friends

TheBoarzHeadBoy
12-08-2010, 02:21 PM
You broke some new ground with this one. It's so thought provoking that my head almost exploded. Thank God for indoor bicycle helmets. I mean who wouldve thought to attack Christians and then use nothing but Old Testament verses? Only a being of your supreme intellect, that's who.


Because Jesus specifically said he didn't come to replace the Old Testament. I'm not going to look for the verse right now. He basically said the Old Stuff was still legit.

black christians ARE uncle toms, plain and simple. Malcolm X broke away from that thanks to Islam

Islam is even bigger in favor of slavery. What are you talking about? Islam enslaved you and sold you to the white man who treated you decently. The problem for blacks was that they got freed without a means which made them targets for bitter people. Poor whites killed poor blacks because at least they weren't niggers. The rich normally didn't care, they were rich. They could afford to hire blacks. No big deal.

Dokuro
12-08-2010, 04:24 PM
the Boar follows in my footsteps
i guess thats ok as long as you don't run between my legs
you probably won't get that one


but damn that guy really pissed me off last night to the point were i dusted of my Bible, Qur'an and Torah just to post this here

man Gods gonna be pissed about this one

John Prewett
12-10-2010, 09:35 PM
The real Christians of history were among those labeled "heretic."
For centuries the label "Christian" has been [often deliberately] inaccuately applied. Bottom line: Christ did not own slaves.
New Testament Christ priority/goal is ETERNAL LIFE.
Christ Himself partook of unjust suffering.
Christ Himself walked with/among "common" people.
Blaming Christ for wicked deeds of people inaccurately labeled "Christian"
is as ignorant as blaming the "thou shalt not steal" law when people steal.

Dokuro
12-10-2010, 10:04 PM
The real Christians of history were among those labeled "heretic."
For centuries the label "Christian" has been [often deliberately] inaccuately applied. Bottom line: Christ did not own slaves.
New Testament Christ priority/goal is ETERNAL LIFE.
Christ Himself partook of unjust suffering.
Christ Himself walked with/among "common" people.
Blaming Christ for wicked deeds of people inaccurately labeled "Christian"
is as ignorant as blaming the "thou shalt not steal" law when people steal.

nice you got on hear just to argue this with me welcome

but i agree with you i'm in no way attacking the profit Jesus for what is written and followed by his flock. just in the same why that i would never attack Buddha for the persecution of the Hmong and Ainu people.

but the fact of the deeds of the people of Christ remands genocidal, both in history and in there own book

Dokuro
12-10-2010, 10:09 PM
Oh and John remember this Satan's influence is that of gods will for Satan is God judgment

John Prewett
12-11-2010, 07:18 PM
...............
the deeds of the people of Christ remains genocidal,
.................

The NT CHRIST is the definer of what is or is not fit to be labeled "Christian."

The NT CHRIST did not commit genocide, nor order anyone else to commit genocide.

You see people committing genocide, and you label them "people of Christ."

You are falsely/inaccurately using the label "CHRISTian."

Show me people committing genocide, and I'll show you people who were NOT following CHRIST and who were not fit to be labeled "CHRISTian" NO MATTER what they label themself and NO MATTER how many decieved persons inaccurately label them.

The false/inaccurate use of the label "CHRISTian" has been going on for centuries.

All common/secular historians and commentators have DECIEVED and BRAINWASHED the bulk of humanity in regard to who/what are "CHRISTians" and "Church."

Clearest single example: Common historians would have you believe the INQUISITORS were Christian because they were Roman Catholic. Common historians would have you believe the RC cult is "THE CHURCH." Common historians are decieved.

The real Christians were among those labeled "heretic" and they were the targets of the INQUISITIONS, not the perps.

John Prewett
12-11-2010, 07:30 PM
BTW - I appreciated your Telsa information.


Oh and John remember this Satan's influence is that of gods will for Satan is God judgment

Satan is revealed in the OT. However,

I'm confident Satan is correctly and more fully revealed in the NT.

God's will is for all to be saved/be happy forever.
God's will is for all to heed Jesus.
God's word is truth.

Satan's will is for all to be lost/be tormented forever.
Satan's will is for all to reject Jesus.
Satan is the father of lies and has decieved "the whole world."

Dokuro
12-11-2010, 11:48 PM
Christian genocides

Manifest Destiny- god demands us to hold this land
Tasmania-they are lesser then man so god demands the extinction
Holocaust-the revival of the holy roman empire
Holy war-the only ones to kill Innocent when taking Jerusalem
Ireland-who drove the "snakes" out


Woman with “familiar spirits” must be stoned to death. Leviticus 20:27

“Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” Exodus 22:18

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5

Don’t associate with non-Christians. Don’t receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them. 2 John 1:10

Shun those who disagree with your religious views. Romans 16:17

Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8

Whoever denies “that Jesus is the Christ” is a liar and an anti-Christ. 1 John 2:22

Christians are “of God;” everyone else is wicked. 1 John 5:19

The non-Christian is “a deceiver and an anti-Christ” 2 John 1:7

Anyone who doesn’t share Paul’s beliefs has “an evil heart.” Hebrews 3:12

False Jews are members of “the synagogue of Satan.” Revelations 2:9, 3:9

Everyone will have to worship Jesus -- whether they want to or not. Philippians 2:10

A Christian can not be accused of any wrongdoing. Romans 8:33

thoughts that lead to persecution witch leads to genocide to genocide




all you doing is finding a scape goat and saying there not us because you know know its wrong. its a form of dissonance reduction


but you must ask your self is the 1000 year kingdom really something to be fighting for


all quots


BTW - I appreciated your Telsa information.

thanks just doing Lord Lucifer work

Satan is revealed in the OT. However,

I'm confident Satan is correctly and more fully revealed in the NT.

God's will is for all to be saved/be happy forever.
God's will is for all to heed Jesus.
God's word is truth.
or suffer for eternity
Satan's will is for all to be lost/be tormented forever.
for those who do not follow the words of god
Satan's will is for all to reject Jesus. thats Lucifer, not Satan
Satan is the father of lies and has decieved "the whole world. thats the fallan angel Samael, not Satan

Satan Hebraic name is Mastema
Lucifer's Hebraic name is Shemhazai

go ahead look it up


damn this sites running slow god must be pissed at me for speaking agents him again

Dokuro
12-12-2010, 12:00 AM
you know john you may not know me but i have found it to be most humorist that you attack your own brothers "Catholics and Muslims" even way you pray to the same god.

i do not blame you for your ignorance no will i try and force you to the truth of the Christian faith

after all this is not my way.

instead i will give you the option of clicking this link (http://www.evilbible.com/)

John Prewett
12-12-2010, 05:29 AM
you know john you may not know me but i have found it to be most humorist that you attack your own brothers "Catholics and Muslims" even way you pray to the same god.


I sadly note your ignorance revealing contention that "Catholics and Muslims" are my brothers. They are not.




i do not blame you for your ignorance no will i try and force you to the truth of the Christian faith after all this is not my way. instead i will give you the option
of clicking this link (http://www.evilbible.com/)

I checked out the "evil bible" link. A collection of oft repeated misinterpretation and misunderstandings of certain verses. Designed to persuade a person that the God that sent Jesus is evil, so that the person will reject Jesus and end up in the lake of fire forever. Not for me. I see that the NT Jesus is good and is the giver of eternal life.

Eternal life. Offered to all. By Jesus.

Many [including me] accept/believe in Jesus and say "Thank you Jesus" !

But, it is a free universe, and whosoever permanently chooses to
reject/disbelieve God's offer/forgiveness [and go into the lake of fire forever,]
..... can do so.

Eternity is a long, long time.

Dokuro
12-12-2010, 07:21 AM
I sadly note your ignorance revealing contention that "Catholics and Muslims" are my brothers. They are not.

heheheheh.

Catholicism were the primordial version of your religion protestant. so how can you clam to be the real and original when you your self is just "bourbon."

and Muslim were given the Qur'an by the angel Gabriel and the two most quoted people are Jesus and Salomon, the the most come from the latter

the only differences is a name and the real name shall never be spoken out loud
Yahweh=God=Allah=L=well i fell your not ready to Know the real name of god



I checked out the "evil bible" link. A collection of oft repeated misinterpretation and misunderstandings of certain verses. Designed to persuade a person that the God that sent Jesus is evil, so that the person will reject Jesus and end up in the lake of fire forever. Not for me. I see that the NT Jesus is good and is the giver of eternal life.

Eternal life. Offered to all. By Jesus.

Many [including me] accept/believe in Jesus and say "Thank you Jesus" !

But, it is a free universe, and whosoever permanently chooses to
reject/disbelieve God's offer/forgiveness [and go into the lake of fire forever,]
..... can do so.

Eternity is a long, long time.
funny because i have your book right hear and all that is in it

i have 7 different(denominations) holy bibles 2 Qur'ans, the torah, book of Enoch, and the kabbalah. i have studied all of them vary intensively.

and each bibles says relatively the same things in regards to persecution

and the idea of rejection and burning comes of mighty tyrannical don't you think

"follow or die you just said it your self in so many word"

those who don't believe burn forever.

"my friend this is fun, tell me how is your mission going"

Dokuro
12-12-2010, 07:23 AM
oh and you can keep Eternal life that sound like a sad end donchathink?.

John Prewett
12-13-2010, 05:20 AM
heheheheh. Catholicism were the primordial version of your religion protestant. so how can you clam to be the real and original when you your self is just "bourbon."

Catholicism [and all of organized "christian" religion]evolved from the Trinitarian imitation "christian" Roman state born in Rome during the reign of Roman Empire king Constantine. NT and Acts shows a Church of people devoted to Jesus. Personal and direct. NO "pope" as middleman/"vicar".



and Muslim were given the Qur'an by the angel Gabriel and the two most quoted people are Jesus and Salomon, the the most come from the latter ............

MO was criminally insane. Pure and simple.



and the idea of rejection and burning comes of mighty tyrannical don't you think
"follow or die you just said it your self in so many word" those who don't believe burn forever.

Unlike you, I don't presume to have the competance to sit in judgement over the Creator of the universe. I thank God for the warning information.


"my friend this is fun, tell me how is your mission going"

Fine thank you. Best yet to come. JP

Dokuro
12-13-2010, 06:24 AM
Catholicism [and all of organized "christian" religion]evolved from the Trinitarian imitation "christian" Roman state born in Rome during the reign of Roman Empire king Constantine. NT and Acts shows a Church of people devoted to Jesus. Personal and direct. NO "pope" as middleman/"vicar".
reduction of dissonance pure and simple but you are on the right track just throw out that ridiculous book, own up to the crime committed by your people then move forward to correct it. start by leaving the Buddha alone because the understand it better then your people






evolution of Christendom

.................................................. ................../Protestant
Babylonian ...................................../catholicism
..........\....................................... ../................\ Mormon
...........>= Judaism----Christianity
........../.........................................\........ ./Sunni
Greek.........................................\ Islam
.................................................. ...........\Shia



its hard to cramp together one semester of mythology into just a few lines


MO was criminally insane. Pure and simple.

i would have you play the game but the sites down
The Bible Quran Reference Game

short Christian mythos
Ishtar wed Asherah and gave birth to Yahweh and Bel
Yahweh kills Bel for the throne of the kingdom
damning all the people of Bel for eternity
Gabriel find this unfair and bring the light to them so they may be forgiven
in turn she falls from grace
the sins of Bel's people are forgiven buy Jesus's death
Yahweh forgive them
they thin fallow Yahweh's word
since the name of god is explicit the give god the name Allah
meaning all things


Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the Allah your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged.


You should not let a sorceress live.


"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.


Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.


1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.


If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.


A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.


Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.


They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.


If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.


Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."


But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.


1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.


One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die.


1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared.


So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.


For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.'


The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'


now is that not horrific were are the from


Unlike you, I don't presume to have the competance to sit in judgement over the Creator of the universe. I thank God for the warning information.
so you follow him regardless of his decisions because you believe him to be infallible
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Fine thank you. Best yet to come. JP
it must be fun to brainwash an entire people i hope the Hmong string you up for messing with there traditions---sorry that came from my wife we had a traditional Hmong wedding




enclosing tyranny is tyranny even if the one committing it is a God


i will ask this one thing is it wrong to make a law against interracial breading and then when that law is violated kill the mother and the child
and force the father to a vary painful imprisonment.

GTAsoldier
12-13-2010, 08:06 PM
For centuries the label "Christian" has been [often deliberately] inaccuately applied. Bottom line: Christ did not own slaves.
New Testament Christ priority/goal is ETERNAL LIFE.
Christ Himself partook of unjust suffering.
Christ Himself walked with/among "common" people.
Blaming Christ for wicked deeds of people inaccurately labeled "Christian"
is as ignorant as blaming the "thou shalt not steal" law when people steal.

This, yo.

The real Christians of history were among those labeled "heretic."


Forgive me, but I don't really know about that. Enlighten me please.

John Prewett
12-14-2010, 03:35 AM
JP: The real Christians of history were among those labeled "heretic."


Forgive me, but I don't really know about that. Enlighten me please.

The so called "heretics" can be seen most clearly
in relation to the RCatholic INQUISITIONS.

Search engine: Inquisitions, heretics,

The Roman Catholic "church" was the undisputed dominant cult of Europe between about 1000 till about 1500 AD. Around 1500 the Protestant cults emerged and RC's claim to be the "one true Church" became openly disputed. RC is STILL the single dominant "christian" cult in the world.

The Roman Catholic popes created the INQUSITIONS.

From around 1200 until around 1800 the INQUISITIONS operated openly.

The INQUISITIONS tortured and mass murdered people. Literally "God only knows"
how many human beings were labeled "heretic" and tortured and murdered by the RC Inquisitions.

Any disagreement with RC doctrine could cause one to be labeled a "heretic."

Common/secular/pro RC historians would have us believe
that the INQUISITORS were Christians. That is a great LIE.

Common/secular/pro RC historians would have us believe
that the "heretics" were not Christians. That is a great LIE.

All who confessed faith in Jesus Christ BUT repudiated the papacy were labeled "heretic" and subject to torture and murder.
All who confessed faith in Jesus Christ BUT repudiated the papacy were the real Christians of history.

Christ recieved torture and murder. Christ did not "dish it out."

In like manner, the REAL followers of Christ recieved torture and murder.

The REAL followers of Christ did not "dish it out."

Indeed: as the Revelation [ch 12] states: "Satan has decieved the world"

The Vatican is the Great Whore of the Revelation [ch 17&18]. Pure and simple.

Further discussion welcome.

Dokuro
12-14-2010, 03:58 AM
mother harlot has little to do with the Vatican and how can an angel of god decieve the world Mestema(Satan) works under gods name.
now ok. maybe some protestants were killed but the catholic church but thats only because they were trying to change it. and like your good book says rebellion is the work of the devil.

so then who was Jesus really working for Samyaza(Lucifer) or _L_ (Yahweh/god/Allah)


and what about my questions have i stuck a nerve


this is all i wont to know

i will ask this one thing is it wrong to make a law against interracial breading, then when that law is violated kill the mother and the child,
and force the father to a vary painful imprisonment?