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Grim Reapa
10-15-2005, 04:34 PM
Alright so im in my car listening to Shade 45 on Sirius....and they had this debate as to like is hip hop dead or not......They said Mike Jones 50 and Lloyd Banks are real hip hop......now im wondering are they hip hop are just party starters? Nah mean what happened to a simple beat like Liquid Swordz for example gettin killed by RZA and GZA? Or Percee P just old school killin a track?

MY QUESTION IS:

IS HIP HOP DEAD TODAY?

MaShPG
10-15-2005, 04:34 PM
Is it too early to mourn, is it too late to ride?

Grim Reapa
10-15-2005, 04:35 PM
Too late

hellbound
10-15-2005, 04:46 PM
a lot of hip hop is dying(or dead), but theyre is still people making good hip hop and keeping it true

Grim Reapa
10-15-2005, 04:47 PM
yea but c now with fuckin Mike Jones fuckin Paul Wall all these club rappers

the image gets distorted

oldie
10-15-2005, 04:50 PM
basically IMO yes it is. there is a fair few emcee's or groups still keepin it real as hellbound said but for the most part its all commercial/mainstream/killing, what hip-hop is really about, off.

Grim Reapa
10-15-2005, 04:51 PM
but thats the thing

hip hop used to be thriving

PE NWA Ice T Wu Tang LL Cool J Run DMC KRS-ONE Biggie Jay-Z Nas

what happened?

Escobar_Incorporated
10-15-2005, 04:51 PM
its not dead at all cuz there are a lot of quality songs comin out these days, but the majority of people dont check for it

PuNcH_iN_PuNcH_OuT
10-15-2005, 04:53 PM
there is plenty of dope hip hop

you just got to get through all the bullshit

MaShPG
10-15-2005, 04:57 PM
Genius-I feel as if I touched on a lot of the points you're making in an essay I wrote last year. I hope you benefit from it, here it is:

http://www.wutangcorp.com/showthread.php?t=9191

Grim Reapa
10-15-2005, 05:06 PM
good essay exactly some of my views

I make old school hip hop sometimes just to bring back flavor

as for it being diverse there aint that much diversity in gangs, killin bitches, robbin niggas, money, drugs all the same shit just a different package

Now Kanye West is was got me to like commercial hip hop again

Diverse

Jesus Walks-the subject matter is good for commercialism

Diamonds Are Forever- again different and actually meaningfull

we need to have more of that in hip hop rap today

Escobar_Incorporated
10-15-2005, 05:12 PM
yea i like kanye..so arrogant and stylish

MaShPG
10-15-2005, 05:13 PM
Yea I hear ya, either that or we need to personally convert people into Hip Hop. Like I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for camp counselors playing Com's Ressurection to me. I've already converted a couple people...

Antibody
10-15-2005, 05:29 PM
It's alive and well.

Grim Reapa
10-15-2005, 05:41 PM
u my friend r dumb and naive

Funkadelic Funkmasta
10-15-2005, 05:49 PM
HELL NO.

2005 has been an amazing year for hip hop. look at all these albums. and the year ain't even over yet

pure dopeness in 2005:

gza - grandmasters
wu tang meets indie
az - awol
o.c. - starchild
warren g - in the mid-nite hour
smif n wessun - reloaded
buckshot and 9th wonder - chemistry
sean price - monkey barz
dangerdoom - the mouse and the mask
common - be
kanye west - late registration
m.o.p. - st. marxmen
big shug - who's hard

all of these albums r pretty fucking great. and i'm sure i'm forgetting alot

oldie
10-15-2005, 06:06 PM
sorry but, Kanye West...he's annoyed me becasue of this "Diamonds From Sierra Leone". he's like yeah, i want people to know about these kids diggin up your diamonds etc. yeah well done there, i agree 100%, i give him respect for that part. BUT when you then go on to say but i also wanna get across the point the Roc is still alive and they and me have great rhymes.....WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this guy Seizes (spell?) to amaze me! how the fuck does The Roc relate to child slave labour??? he's just like Jigga...money, money, money, me, me, me! but his music sounds alrite.lol.

Grim Reapa
10-16-2005, 12:57 PM
but NO GOOD HIP HOP is played on radios

Sifu Dragon
10-16-2005, 01:17 PM
i wish these threads would die....along with da crying threadstarters

Grim Reapa
10-16-2005, 01:18 PM
iight hope u die long wit your short penis u 'dickhead'

Sifu Dragon
10-16-2005, 01:21 PM
was that some kind of 'wordplay', if so it was shit

go and listen to shade45 again and cry to some mike jones

Grim Reapa
10-16-2005, 02:04 PM
ur worse than bone colleta