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Grim Reapa
10-15-2005, 04:58 PM
I have a question about the Quran, Im currently trying to read it

and ive been told it talks about killing infedals by my mom and churches

Now I haven't seen or read anything about that but what truth is there to that

LordReveal
10-15-2005, 05:16 PM
none whatsoever.

Os3y3ris
10-15-2005, 06:25 PM
Yeh, there kinda is. I dont have a paper copy, but I have seen those verses. Something about not takin Jews and Christians as friends, running them off if they dont live as muslims and then casting them into the fire. Not accurate at all, but the gist was SOMETHING like that. On the other hand, Christians can't exactly talk, making it a moot point.

Visionz
10-15-2005, 06:31 PM
no better way to learn than to actually read the Quran. heresay is only gonna lead you to some disinformation. I'm currently reading the entire book. Currently on page 465, there's a lot of knowledge w/in the Quran but the only way to really get it is to just read it.peace

Shemsu Elohim
10-15-2005, 06:35 PM
http://www.users.qwest.net/~reflections/Holy%20Quran.jpg

LORD NOSE
10-15-2005, 06:39 PM
I have a question about the Quran, Im currently trying to read it

and ive been told it talks about killing infedals by my mom and churches

Now I haven't seen or read anything about that but what truth is there to that


Thats what the bible says

Os3y3ris
10-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Its a rather large book. Wouldn't directing him to verses be simpler?

SubtleEnergies
10-15-2005, 09:10 PM
It doesn't talk about killing like alot of people would have you believe. And I believe the verse O is talking about says not to take Christians and Jews as friends OVER MUSLIMS. This I would take as not making alliances against other Muslims with them.

I have a good book that discusses these verses, "Understanding the Quran."

Alot of those verses are cited out of context. Besides this, the Bible is more violence filled than the Koran will ever be.

Also, remembering the historical context of the Quran, Muhammed was given the book which the people would accept, other wise it would have been useless anyways. Verse 4:34 about striking a wife....the story that surrounds this is that a guy hit his wife. Muhammed took the wife infront of everyone and said strike him back. This shamed him. Gabriel said to him afterwards that he should remember he is dealing with Arab men who are proud, and that he would lose them in this manner. That's why the verse was included. But it's also strongly put forth that its a last measure and Hadith says "the best of you don't strike your wives."

I am not saying the Koran totally lacks any type of violence, but I have even come accross totally INVENTED verse on this internet just to discredit it.

Prince Rai
10-16-2005, 12:18 AM
language is language..

but the quran does not say cast away jews and christians the way we would think it would be interpreted...

much is in the quran that u gotta decipher.. it aint face value stuff!

Prince Rai
10-16-2005, 12:18 AM
u know what ISLAM means so apply it to the facts... in that mind frame

7EL7
10-16-2005, 01:08 AM
Alot of those verses are cited out of context. Besides this, the Bible is more violence filled than the Koran will ever be.

i find this to be 100% true indeed

the bible is like 10 times more bloody than the Quaran

in fact i can't remember ever reading any part of the Quran where it expressed violence against anyone

in the bible, God tells the children of Israel to slay many towns women, children, and even animals. To spare noone or nothing

its sad how so many christians love to point the finger but never study their own book they claim to believe

bunch of Hypocrites

LORD NOSE
10-16-2005, 01:11 AM
and ive been told it talks about killing infedals by my mom and churches


you should ask them how much of the Quran and bible have they read

Big Risk
10-16-2005, 01:16 AM
why dont you?

LORD NOSE
10-16-2005, 01:22 AM
listen you little high school pink dick mova fuca

SHUT THE FUC UP WHEN GROWN FOLKS IS TALKING


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Big Risk
10-16-2005, 01:43 AM
LOL holy shit i love your intellegent insults.

LORD NOSE
10-16-2005, 01:46 AM
YOUR BEATING YOUR MEAT RIGHT NOW TO MY BRIGHT YELLOW WORDS

YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET ANY PUSSY EVER

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Visionz
10-16-2005, 01:52 AM
funny how the conversation was about Islam and ends up like this ^, aren't we here to elevate each other....wtf?

SubtleEnergies
10-16-2005, 03:55 AM
Yeah shut up both of you. Back to the topic at hand....

SubtleEnergies
10-16-2005, 03:57 AM
Shemsu Elohim where is that second pic you posted undet the koran from? I like it.

Prince Rai
10-16-2005, 01:25 PM
lol i came here to see true knowledge but it always ends bad.. hmm shouldnt be surprised

LORD NOSE
10-16-2005, 01:32 PM
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SKAMPOE
02-04-2011, 05:17 PM
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Fatal Guillotine
02-04-2011, 05:22 PM
YOUR BEATING YOUR MEAT RIGHT NOW TO MY BRIGHT YELLOW WORDS

YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET ANY PUSSY EVER

HUSTLER MAGAZINE LICKING FREAK

lmaooo

Fatal Guillotine
02-04-2011, 05:25 PM
listen you little high school pink dick mova fuca

SHUT THE FUC UP WHEN GROWN FOLKS IS TALKING


FUCIN ACNE HAVING ERECTION DURING POP QUIZ HAVING POP TARTS SWALLOWING BASTARD



sunny you lacing words together like bro khalid, lmao

LORD NOSE
02-04-2011, 08:40 PM
lmao - i don't even know why i went the fuck off like that - crazy ass nigga

Prince Rai
02-05-2011, 04:24 AM
lol you missed a meal or something that day. Peace

LORD NOSE
02-05-2011, 12:34 PM
when i miss meals, i'm not mean or irritable, i'm the opposite of that - now if couldn't get my weed maybe - but back then i was probably drunk or cravin to smoke wiff cigahwetts