Question for Mr. SUnny Winters

[knowcheeze]

PEACE!!!!!!!!

yeah hero's and all that is nice but...lol

lets say HYPOTHETICALLY that was your
DAUGHTER on "king" noble's channel
shaking her ass like a 5 dollar blow job hoe???

would you still think that bullshit is "nation building"????

would u be taking that bullshit so fuckin lightly????

eye eagerly await your response....

PEACE!!!!!!

[Tectrus Moa]

It's all entertainment and it's all about money.

[knowcheeze]

well...if "king"(notice the parenthesis)
NOBLE
is about entertainment then why the fuck
is he asking for donations and trying to present
himself as some kind of fuckin Guru

like eye said....eye wonder if sunny
would feel the same if it was HIS daughter
on "king" nobles channel acting like a God damned
savage

not that that behavior is nessesarily savage
but when its put on youtube it becomes savage

when its done for sum man thats not gonna
build a solar system with her...then it becomes
savage

om eagerly awaiting his response

naked body addiction as coined by KRS ONE
is a serious fuckin problem.....its just as
bad as substance abuse problems or
violence problems

thats why "KING" is in parenthesis

owl bet you "king" noble is a womanizer too
but eye can't prove that

eye could be wrong about that

om just getting fed up with these
dudes trying to put sugar on shit
and call it nation building

[STYLE]

you mean quotation marks. (these are parentheses)

but anyway...

i'm just getting hip to noble's wave, i have only watched maybe 20 or so vids. link me to the vid you are referring to.

but yeah man ass shaking is cool. our women been shaking ass for 1000s of years. in many parts of the world our women are topless.

ass shaking and titties out is a beautiful thing.

tell me i'm wrong.

[LORD NOSE]

PEACE!!!!!!!!

yeah hero's and all that is nice but...lol

lets say HYPOTHETICALLY that was your
DAUGHTER on "king" noble's channel
shaking her ass like a 5 dollar blow job hoe???

would you still think that bullshit is "nation building"????

would u be taking that bullshit so fuckin lightly????

eye eagerly await your response....

PEACE!!!!!!



if any of my daughters were to be on some shit like that, i'd have to start beatin the shit out of these self righteous,so called knowledge of self niggas for not doing their job in building a nation where our women and daughters don't have to shake ass to feed their babies -

i would start the fuckin floggin on those who call them self god but do nothing but complain about the ones who are actually picking up bricks and mortar to begin the building -


i'm sure there are activities that you partake in that'll make another man shake his head at you too - now we got 2 niggas who consider themselves god but are doing nothing of serious substance to build a nation where our women and children feel and are safe secure



well...if "king"(notice the parenthesis)
NOBLE
is about entertainment then why the fuck
is he asking for donations and trying to present
himself as some kind of fuckin Guru

like eye said....eye wonder if sunny
would feel the same if it was HIS daughter
on "king" nobles channel acting like a God damned
savage

not that that behavior is nessesarily savage
but when its put on youtube it becomes savage

when its done for sum man thats not gonna
build a solar system with her...then it becomes
savage

om eagerly awaiting his response

naked body addiction as coined by KRS ONE
is a serious fuckin problem.....its just as
bad as substance abuse problems or
violence problems

thats why "KING" is in parenthesis

owl bet you "king" noble is a womanizer too
but eye can't prove that

eye could be wrong about that

om just getting fed up with these
dudes trying to put sugar on shit
and call it nation building


people use righteousness to look righteous and sell books but when you greet them in the streets they pull their fuckin purse closer to their rib cage - nation building isn't paid entertainment - King Noble was able to hold my attention for hours at a time - i can spend a half of day listening to what he is saying - no one holds my attention like that - he is on some new shit - and i would know -

i feel for those who cannot pick up his frequency and gain the shocks that'll propel us to be real men and real gods - not just people who like to make themselves look and feel better about themselves by using those titles in front of others


niggas is pussy - and the fact that we dismiss other men for petty ass bitch reasons proves my point - we all suspect until we get ourselves out of this situation -

[pro.Graveface]

Peace Knowcheese, sorry for of topic , its the reply on that book what I was reading, its like Rza had said in a interview somewerethat all thiese different masterz had different methodz and teckz to achieve what they wanded to achieve , the book is all about : Enlightment here and now, and how masters had to achieve and afterwurdz explain tere experience to tere studentz. U are the master , and evry1 shud lead his own pathwith his lord the spirit to the light .

[knowcheeze]

"i'm just getting hip to noble's wave, i have only watched maybe 20 or so vids. link me to the vid you are referring to."

umm....he puts out like 100 videos errrrrr day
and eye don't have enough time to find it

before eye even saw that video in question
eye was suspect of "king" noble

then eye sawdededed and eye was like...yup

"but yeah man ass shaking is cool. our women been shaking ass for 1000s of years. in many parts of the world our women are topless.

ass shaking and titties out is a beautiful thing.

tell me i'm wrong."

yeah....its a beautiful thing when its
in a private setting beetween a woman
and a man who is going to set up
a solar system with her.....a heavenly
solar system....no chicks on the side

no cheating....no hell

when its on youtube it turns into debauchery

the bottom line question is....

"what if that was YOUR daughter"

PEACE!!!!!!!

[knowcheeze]

PEACE!!!!!!!

"if any of my daughters were to be on some shit like that, i'd have to start beatin the shit out of these self righteous,so called knowledge of self niggas for not doing their job in building a nation where our women and daughters don't have to shake ass to feed their babies -

i would start the fuckin floggin on those who call them self god but do nothing but complain about the ones who are actually picking up bricks and mortar to begin the building -"

iiiiight....so theoretically you would put
your foot up in king nobles punk ass
for having your theoretical daughter
on youtube acting the savage....

good to know

"i'm sure there are activities that you partake in that'll make another man shake his head at you too"

eye seriously doubt it

"now we got 2 niggas who consider themselves god but are doing nothing of serious substance to build a nation where our women and children feel and are safe secure"

who dat?

"people use righteousness to look righteous and sell books but when you greet them in the streets they pull their fuckin purse closer to their rib cage - nation building isn't paid entertainment - King Noble was able to hold my attention for hours at a time - i can spend a half of day listening to what he is saying - no one holds my attention like that - he is on some new shit - and i would know - "

its nice that he's entertaining and can hold your
attention....but its just the way he's presenting himself
that turns eye shelf off.....cee...sunny eye wasn't
planning on throwing you under the born universal savior
no matter how you replied to mah question because
as you know om a fan of the villianous God....

the Gods in prison...the Gods who do stick ups
even Gods who got 9 girlfriends

but om just saying...."king" noble is presenting
himself as some kind of fuckin Guru

if he would just admit he's on sum villianous shit
eye wouldn't even be talking about him

"i feel for those who cannot pick up his frequency and gain the shocks that'll propel us to be real men and real gods - not just people who like to make themselves look and feel better about themselves by using those titles in front of others"

naw....people need to be honest

if you's a fuckin Guru act like one

if you's asking for DONATIONS don't
be on sum pimp shit

donations...lol

"niggas is pussy - and the fact that we dismiss other men for petty ass bitch reasons proves my point - we all suspect until we get ourselves out of this situation "

okay well lets back up......you just said if that
was your daughter you would be putting your
foot up in someones ass.....and that someone
would be "king" noble....theoretically

eye think eye would be more of a pussy
not saying shit about sum Pimp
masquerading as a fuckin Guru

if "king" noble wanna be on sum pimpology shit

eye have no problem with that

just stop asking for donations

why should people give their money to a pimp?

PEACE!!!!!!!!

[knowcheeze]

Peace Knowcheese, sorry for of topic , its the reply on that book what I was reading, its like Rza had said in a interview somewerethat all thiese different masterz had different methodz and teckz to achieve what they wanded to achieve , the book is all about : Enlightment here and now, and how masters had to achieve and afterwurdz explain tere experience to tere studentz. U are the master , and evry1 shud lead his own pathwith his lord the spirit to the light .

thats peace

just don't be asking for fuckin donations
if you on sum savage pimp shit

[LORD NOSE]

that's peace

but as you can see, i'm on some banana cake shit right now

when i'm at a higher stage, the site of cake makes me shiver


self righteousness is no joke

[knowcheeze]

PEACE!!!!!!!

"but as you can see, i'm on some banana cake shit right now"

hahahahaha....whut da fuck is
"bannanna cake shit"?????

"when i'm at a higher stage, the site of cake makes me shiver"

do tell.....


"self righteousness is no joke"

thats true...and you know knowcheeze
is the LAST person to be on sum
self righteous shit..om just saying

what eye want for mah daughter
is what eye want for everyones
daughter and every woman on the planet

so eye think eye would be more of a PUSSY
not saying anything about someone
who does things to other peoples daughter
that he wouldn't want for his OWN DAUGHTER

especially when this dude is asking
for motherfuckin DONATIONS

like eye said...om a big fan of the villanious
God....and om defineatly viewed as a villian
by many.....so

yeah....if you was gonna send donations
to "king" noble....instead send them to
Knowcheeze because knowcheeze
is gonna keep it real and not play the role
of sum holy man and the money won't
be used to run pimp games on women

the one thing eye am NOT is a womanizer

eye stayed celibate for many many years

PEACE!!!!!!

[LORD NOSE]

Peace Know

i'm with you

[LORD NOSE]

however, pointing that out and the donations part then labelling him suspect is suspect - i searched through his videos and watched mad of them and not once saw any booty shaking videos - i heard him mention something about donations once - but it was a lesson on giving and how the peoples minds work concerning it


just watched this

http://vimeo.com/18131923

[knowcheeze]

however, pointing that out and the donations part then labelling him suspect is suspect - i searched through his videos and watched mad of them and not once saw any booty shaking videos - i heard him mention something about donations once - but it was a lesson on giving and how the peoples minds work concerning it


just watched this

http://vimeo.com/18131923

naw that wasn't the clip eye saw on his youtube page

and eye don't have time to search for it

but it was defineatly there at one time and it
was basically 10 minutes of strip club type
dancing with various women with "king" noble
talking over like..."yeah look at that ass"

om paraphrasing but

be clear here...om not even trying to
throw "King" noble under the
born universe savior either

eye don't think he is a an government AGENT
like the likes of such crackers as
Sara-glutten seti or Natural Tehuti
or even Dr York

those 3 eye have no problem throwing
under the born universe savior

but like eye said....

eye only want for all women what
eye want for mah own theoretical daughter

and apparently "King" Noble doesn't feel the same way

so he should stop asking for donations

so its not suspect....we shouldn't give our money
to pimps or those who are in that world

like you said sunny winters....if that was your
daughter on his page shaking that ass like
a fuckin whore you wouldn't be too happy about
that either

so no its not suspect...eye think its suspect nobody
finds "king" noble suspect

anyways sunny....eye do loves you

PEACE!!!!!!

[knowcheeze]

eye find it suspect people are NOT willing to call
others out on obvious bullshit

http://www.atlantisschool.blogspot.com/

[LORD NOSE]

you are not getting my point


everyone can be called out on something

and we need to stop turning up our noses at people who were born into this shit

instead of building on the beautiful ideas he has on Nation building, you wanna point out the splint in his eye

we focus on the bad part - that's one of the main reasons why as a collective we have nothing of substance


we can sit here and complain about each others flaws and shortcomings - we'd be here all year doing that


still...i haven't seen any booty videos with him talking about "yeah girl shake that ass"

i have seen a couple of his videos of him speaking on the subject

and how black women are being used as hoes -


he has so many videos of him speaking about nation building

while scrolling through his myriad of videos, not once did i see the video that you was talking about -


smh

we gotta get off this "ahw nigga you ain't shit" mentality - it's counter productive

the stuff he's saying about nation building is so strong that even if i was to see the video that you are saying you saw, i'd see it as a steppin stone that he is using in his ministry - i would not automatically call him suspect

[knowcheeze]

PEACE!!!!!

"you are not getting my point "

eye get your point Brother Winters!!!!!!

"everyone can be called out on something "

well...if one is ax'ing for donations in that manner
(on sum eye am a Guru type shit) they had better
make damn sure that they cannot be called out
on ANYTHING

eye mean personally...eye could be "called out"
on sum sing but its nothing nearly as bad
as contributing to having our beloved women of the planet
earth on youtube acting like a fuckin savage

and one day very soon eye will reach a point where eye
cannot be called out on anything and om
very close to that Goal...

"and we need to stop turning up our noses at people who were born into this shit "

well om not turning up my nose at him

you never heard mah shelf say anything about
"king" noble before and after this thread you
will more than likely never hear me say/type
anything about him

his name came up and eye commented on him

"instead of building on the beautiful ideas he has on Nation building, you wanna point out the splint in his eye "

eye just don't like cee-ing mah beloved earthly queens
being displayed like that by someone who is
ASKING FOR DONATIONS.....lol

"we focus on the bad part - that's one of the main reasons why as a collective we have nothing of substance "

or eye could say we let people get away with
savage shit in the name of nation building

"we can sit here and complain about each others flaws and shortcomings - we'd be here all year doing that"

well...me personally om not presenting mahshelf
as a guru or someone who should be studied
and om not asking for donations

eye pretty much play the villian role with love

"still...i haven't seen any booty videos with him talking about "yeah girl shake that ass""

well...om too pressed for internet time
as you know to even search for it

since thats your dude why don't you ask him about it?

"i have seen a couple of his videos of him speaking on the subject

and how black women are being used as hoes -


he has so many videos of him speaking about nation building

while scrolling through his myriad of videos, not once did i see the video that you was talking about - "

the one eye am talking about he must have taken down

smart move burger king noble

heres another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QSnS22VsX0

but thats some G rated shit compared to the other one
eye speak of

"smh

we gotta get off this "ahw nigga you ain't shit" mentality - it's counter productive "

eye think its way more counter productive to have
our earthly queens acting like a god dayum
fool on youtube

eye don't give a fuck who it is....eye will call
anybody out


"the stuff he's saying about nation building is so strong that even if i was to see the video that you are saying you saw, i'd see it as a steppin stone that he is using in his ministry - i would not automatically call him suspect"

well...eye would....haha

but owl drop it for now..but in closing
heres one of the responses from way back
when eye posted that savage "king" noble video

"something doesn't feel right about that first link by noble. it actually sounds like he's trying to convince himself of what he's teaching.

now, i understand what he's saying about uniting the body and mind but i'm curious as to why he didn't select a clip of dr. sunyatta amen with the moor hips belly dancing troupe? http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=47415994

i mention them because dr. sunyatta teaches about the benefits of belly dancing on overall health which includes restoring the health of the reproductive system. "

basically the Dr. Sunyatta clip was tastefull

and Noble was posting up porno videos
and doing background vocals on them

PEACE!!!!

[LORD NOSE]

i hear you and i can point from where you are pointing

but i come from other places also

first off - those are not earthly queens - they are what white corporate america made them
they are bitches and hoes - understand this - as black men if we don't get something of our own, those bitches will stay bitches, shakin ass,selling pussy, and robbin tricks for rent and food money -

this is the condition that black men have their women in because black men are too soft to secure something on this earth for themselves where we can make earthly queens instead being destroyed by bitches - i posted a video of him building on Nation Building and you went to go watch the bitches shake their ass and turned the discussion into that - that is suspect - understand this - those old negro holier than thou attitudes is preventing us from uniting in the true sense - we are all filthy in america - all of us - donations ?

i only heard the word come out of his mouth once - and he wasn't asking for donations


if you are cleaner and more righteous than us, do what Noble did and bring us strong truth that'll get us desiring and building a better future for us - calling him names because you saw a booty video on his page that you say he must have taken down is immature

[knowcheeze]

"i hear you and i can point from where you are pointing"

excellent

"but i come from other places also

first off - those are not earthly queens - they are what white corporate america made them
they are bitches and hoes - understand this - as black men if we don't get something of our own, those bitches will stay bitches, shakin ass,selling pussy, and robbin tricks for rent and food money - "

ceen

this is the condition that black men have their women in because black men are too soft to secure something on this earth for themselves where we can make earthly queens instead being destroyed by bitches - i posted a video of him building on Nation Building and you went to go watch the bitches shake their ass and turned the discussion into that - that is suspect - understand this - those old negro holier than thou attitudes is preventing us from uniting in the true sense - we are all filthy in america - all of us - donations ?

i only heard the word come out of his mouth once - and he wasn't asking for donations


if you are cleaner and more righteous than us, do what Noble did and bring us strong truth that'll get us desiring and building a better future for us - calling him names because you saw a booty video on his page that you say he must have taken down is immature"

naw....well this is where we gotta agree to disagree

eye think its more immature and more pussy
to not point out some suspect shit a self
professed Guru who is asking for donations does just because
the dude is entertaining or even on point
in certain instances

and yes...eye just pointed it out and we been going
back and forth....the only reason om still talking
about Noble is cuz you keep on replying...eye was just
simply pointing sumthing out

and no....eye don't have a holier than thou attitude

but if eye was asking for donations and on
youtube frontin like om some one who should
be teaching people.....yes

eye would expect people to expose any
suspect behavior on mah part

om just saying play your fuckin role

or else prepare to be judged

PEACE!!!!!

[LORD NOSE]

overstood


my point in all i was saying is that everyone is saying the same thing about everyone


whether they publicly speaking or not

whether they calling themselves master teachers or not

expect everyone to be dirty

if you look for filth, you'll find filth

the build was Nation Building and what must be done

the reasons why it needs to be built on, is because we are filthy

you can point out what whatever - you'll be pointing all day

but at the end of that day of pointing, what was accomplished by pointing

we can build on how filthy we are and the savage shit we do and list the consequences - that would be a good thread


our competitiveness on that level makes it difficult for us to play our role