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PALEFORCE
12-15-2010, 11:23 PM
the new bill being discussed is giving illegal ailiens children free college or military service in america nd if they do this their prents wont be prosecuted.

first off who the fuck is going to py the college bill?


2nd this is an open invitation for everyone to come to america illeglly so their kids can recieve free eduction etc and the prents wont be prosecuted


3rd and most important....there are 50 fucking million illegal immigrnhts here. 15-20 million are their children. if these kids, unheducated, brely can speak or write spanish let alone english, join the military...fuck can you imagine? or do i got to spell it out for you zombies?

LORD NOSE
12-15-2010, 11:25 PM
the grandson of archie bunker

PALEFORCE
12-15-2010, 11:26 PM
yea i got a new keyboard im fucked up

PALEFORCE
12-15-2010, 11:27 PM
the grandson of archie bunker

who is archie bunker?

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:04 AM
ok sunny....your an american, these dumb mexicans will gun you down just as quick as anyone else for their citizenship and families sake. theyll take orders, what orders are they going to take?

Uncle Steezo
12-16-2010, 12:09 AM
everyone except the natives are illegal immigrants.
if you don't like it then go back to europe whitey.

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:10 AM
go bck to africa then nigger

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:12 AM
im not here illeglly niether are you but right now there are at least 50 million criminals in america

Uncle Steezo
12-16-2010, 12:14 AM
our nation is here illegally unless there is a statute of limitations on crimes against humanity.

if there is, when did we surpass it?

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:16 AM
you of ll people should know style. this is how they re going to attack american citizens. a bunch of illiterate foreigners are going to join the militarily with the threat of exportation, jail and the well being of their families, and ll they got to do is pull the trigger

Dokuro
12-16-2010, 12:18 AM
Whats the bills #

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:19 AM
our nation is here illegally unless there is a statute of limitations on crimes against humanity.

if there is, when did we surpass it?

when all men were creted equl and hd the right to life liberty nd the pursuit of happiness.

Uncle Steezo
12-16-2010, 04:29 AM
sorry i can't sign on to a fear based racist movement.

my people have been on the wrong end of that shit for too long for me to all of a sudden switch teams just because YT feels his power flickering in the night.

immigrants and the black american share the same plight. but if shit gets too bad i'll throw some perm in our hair and speaka with a cubano accent. then join up for service while my kids get the free degree they should have been promised generations ago.

sorry to put it like this but "fuck what you goin thru"

Dokuro
12-16-2010, 05:24 AM
unless you have the bill #, you heard it from fox so its n a lie

Dokuro
12-16-2010, 08:22 AM
is this the bill



IS
111th CONGRESS
8
1st Session
S. 729
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To amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to permit States to determine State residency for higher education purposes and to authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain alien students who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children, and for other purposes.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
MARCH 26, 2009
Mr. DURBIN (for himself, Mr. LUGAR, Mr. REID, Mr. MARTINEZ, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. LIEBERMAN, Mr. KENNEDY, and Mr. FEINGOLD) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILL
To amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to permit States to determine State residency for higher education purposes and to authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain alien students who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2009’ or the ‘DREAM Act of 2009’.
SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.
In this Act:
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(1) INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION- The term ‘institution of higher education’ has the meaning given that term in section 101 of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1001).
(2) UNIFORMED SERVICES- The term ‘uniformed services’ has the meaning given that term in section 101(a) of title 10, United States Code.
SEC. 3. RESTORATION OF STATE OPTION TO DETERMINE RESIDENCY FOR PURPOSES OF HIGHER EDUCATION BENEFITS.
(a) In General- Section 505 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1623) is repealed.
(b) Effective Date- The repeal under subsection (a) shall take effect as if included in the enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (division C of Public Law 104-208; 110 Stat. 3009-546).
SEC. 4. CANCELLATION OF REMOVAL AND ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF CERTAIN LONG-TERM RESIDENTS WHO ENTERED THE UNITED STATES AS CHILDREN.
(a) Special Rule for Certain Long-Term Residents Who Entered the United States as Children-
(1) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law and except as otherwise provided in this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security may cancel removal of, and adjust to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, subject to the conditional basis described in section 5, an alien who is inadmissible or deportable from the United States, if the alien demonstrates that--
(A) the alien has been physically present in the United States for a continuous period of not less than 5 years immediately preceding the date of enactment of this Act, and had not yet reached the age of 16 years at the time of initial entry;
(B) the alien has been a person of good moral character since the time of application;
(C) the alien--
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(i) is not inadmissible under paragraph (2), (3), (6)(E), or (10)(C) of section 212(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)); and
(ii) is not deportable under paragraph (1)(E), (2), or (4) of section 237(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1227(a));
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(D) the alien, at the time of application, has been admitted to an institution of higher education in the United States, or has earned a high school diploma or obtained a general education development certificate in the United States;
(E) the alien has never been under a final administrative or judicial order of exclusion, deportation, or removal, unless the alien--
(i) has remained in the United States under color of law after such order was issued; or
(ii) received the order before attaining the age of 16 years; and
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(F) the alien had not yet reached the age of 35 years on the date of the enactment of this Act.
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(2) WAIVER- Notwithstanding paragraph (1), the Secretary of Homeland Security may waive the ground of ineligibility under section 212(a)(6)(E) of the Immigration and Nationality Act and the ground of deportability under paragraph (1)(E) of section 237(a) of that Act for humanitarian purposes or family unity or when it is otherwise in the public interest.
(3) PROCEDURES- The Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide a procedure by regulation allowing eligible individuals to apply affirmatively for the relief available under this subsection without being placed in removal proceedings.
(b) Termination of Continuous Period- For purposes of this section, any period of continuous residence or continuous physical presence in the United States of an alien who applies for cancellation of removal under this section shall not terminate when the alien is served a notice to appear under section 239(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1229(a)).
(c) Treatment of Certain Breaks in Presence-
(1) IN GENERAL- An alien shall be considered to have failed to maintain continuous physical presence in the United States under subsection (a) if the alien has departed from the United States for any period in excess of 90 days or for any periods in the aggregate exceeding 180 days.
(2) EXTENSIONS FOR EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES- The Secretary of Homeland Security may extend the time periods described in paragraph (1) if the alien demonstrates that the failure to timely return to the United States was due to exceptional circumstances. The exceptional circumstances determined sufficient to justify an extension should be no less compelling than serious illness of the alien, or death or serious illness of a parent, grandparent, sibling, or child.
(d) Exemption From Numerical Limitations- Nothing in this section may be construed to apply a numerical limitation on the number of aliens who may be eligible for cancellation of removal or adjustment of status under this section.
(e) Regulations-
(1) PROPOSED REGULATIONS- Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall publish proposed regulations implementing this section. Such regulations shall be effective immediately on an interim basis, but are subject to change and revision after public notice and opportunity for a period for public comment.
(2) INTERIM, FINAL REGULATIONS- Within a reasonable time after publication of the interim regulations in accordance with paragraph (1), the Secretary of Homeland Security shall publish final regulations implementing this section.
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(f) Removal of Alien- The Secretary of Homeland Security may not remove any alien who has a pending application for conditional status under this Act.
SEC. 5. CONDITIONAL PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS.
(a) In General-
(1) CONDITIONAL BASIS FOR STATUS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, and except as provided in section 6, an alien whose status has been adjusted under section 4 to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence shall be considered to have obtained such status on a conditional basis subject to the provisions of this section. Such conditional permanent resident status shall be valid for a period of 6 years, subject to termination under subsection (b).
(2) NOTICE OF REQUIREMENTS-
(A) AT TIME OF OBTAINING PERMANENT RESIDENCE- At the time an alien obtains permanent resident status on a conditional basis under paragraph (1), the Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide for notice to the alien regarding the provisions of this section and the requirements of subsection (c) to have the conditional basis of such status removed.
(B) EFFECT OF FAILURE TO PROVIDE NOTICE- The failure of the Secretary of Homeland Security to provide a notice under this paragraph--
(i) shall not affect the enforcement of the provisions of this Act with respect to the alien; and
(ii) shall not give rise to any private right of action by the alien.
(b) Termination of Status-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Homeland Security shall terminate the conditional permanent resident status of any alien who obtained such status under this Act, if the Secretary determines that the alien--
(A) ceases to meet the requirements of subparagraph (B) or (C) of section 4(a)(1);
(B) has become a public charge; or
(C) has received a dishonorable or other than honorable discharge from the uniformed services.
(2) RETURN TO PREVIOUS IMMIGRATION STATUS- Any alien whose conditional permanent resident status is terminated under paragraph (1) shall return to the immigration status the alien had immediately prior to receiving conditional permanent resident status under this Act.
(c) Requirements of Timely Petition for Removal of Condition-
(1) IN GENERAL- In order for the conditional basis of permanent resident status obtained by an alien under subsection (a) to be removed, the alien must file with the Secretary of Homeland Security, in accordance with paragraph (3), a petition which requests the removal of such conditional basis and which provides, under penalty of perjury, the facts and information so that the Secretary may make the determination described in paragraph (2)(A).
(2) ADJUDICATION OF PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITION-
(A) IN GENERAL- If a petition is filed in accordance with paragraph (1) for an alien, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall make a determination as to whether the alien meets the requirements set out in subparagraphs (A) through (E) of subsection (d)(1).
(B) REMOVAL OF CONDITIONAL BASIS IF FAVORABLE DETERMINATION- If the Secretary determines that the alien meets such requirements, the Secretary shall notify the alien of such determination and immediately remove the conditional basis of the status of the alien.
(C) TERMINATION IF ADVERSE DETERMINATION- If the Secretary determines that the alien does not meet such requirements, the Secretary shall notify the alien of such determination and terminate the conditional permanent resident status of the alien as of the date of the determination.
(3) TIME TO FILE PETITION- An alien may petition to remove the conditional basis to lawful resident status during the period beginning 180 days before and ending 2 years after either the date that is 6 years after the date of the granting of conditional permanent resident status or any other expiration date of the conditional permanent resident status as extended by the Secretary of Homeland Security in accordance with this Act. The alien shall be deemed in conditional permanent resident status in the United States during the period in which the petition is pending.
(d) Details of Petition-
(1) CONTENTS OF PETITION- Each petition for an alien under subsection (c)(1) shall contain information to permit the Secretary of Homeland Security to determine whether each of the following requirements is met:
(A) The alien has demonstrated good moral character during the entire period the alien has been a conditional permanent resident.
(B) The alien is in compliance with section 4(a)(1)(C).
(C) The alien has not abandoned the alien’s residence in the United States. The Secretary shall presume that the alien has abandoned such residence if the alien is absent from the United States for more than 365 days, in the aggregate, during the period of conditional residence, unless the alien demonstrates that alien has not abandoned the alien’s residence. An alien who is absent from the United States due to active service in the uniformed services has not abandoned the alien’s residence in the United States during the period of such service.
(D) The alien has completed at least 1 of the following:
(i) The alien has acquired a degree from an institution of higher education in the United States or has completed at least 2 years, in good standing, in a program for a bachelor’s degree or higher degree in the United States.
(ii) The alien has served in the uniformed services for at least 2 years and, if discharged, has received an honorable discharge.
(E) The alien has provided a list of each secondary school (as that term is defined in section 9101 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 7801)) that the alien attended in the United States.
(2) HARDSHIP EXCEPTION-
(A) IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Homeland Security may, in the Secretary’s discretion, remove the conditional status of an alien if the alien--
(i) satisfies the requirements of subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C) of paragraph (1);
(ii) demonstrates compelling circumstances for the inability to complete the requirements described in paragraph (1)(D); and
(iii) demonstrates that the alien’s removal from the United States would result in exceptional and extremely unusual hardship to the alien or the alien’s spouse, parent, or child who is a citizen or a lawful permanent resident of the United States.
(B) EXTENSION- Upon a showing of good cause, the Secretary of Homeland Security may extend the period of conditional resident status for the purpose of completing the requirements described in paragraph (1)(D).
(e) Treatment of Period for Purposes of Naturalization- For purposes of title III of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401 et seq.), in the case of an alien who is in the United States as a lawful permanent resident on a conditional basis under this section, the alien shall be considered to have been admitted as an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence and to be in the United States as an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence. However, the conditional basis must be removed before the alien may apply for naturalization.
SEC. 6. RETROACTIVE BENEFITS UNDER THIS ACT.
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If, on the date of enactment of this Act, an alien has satisfied all the requirements of subparagraphs (A) through (E) of section 4(a)(1) and section 5(d)(1)(D), the Secretary of Homeland Security may adjust the status of the alien to that of a conditional resident in accordance with section 4. The alien may petition for removal of such condition at the end of the conditional residence period in accordance with section 5(c) if the alien has met the requirements of subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C) of section 5(d)(1) during the entire period of conditional residence.
SEC. 7. EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION.
(a) In General- The Secretary of Homeland Security shall have exclusive jurisdiction to determine eligibility for relief under this Act, except where the alien has been placed into deportation, exclusion, or removal proceedings either prior to or after filing an application for relief under this Act, in which case the Attorney General shall have exclusive jurisdiction and shall assume all the powers and duties of the Secretary until proceedings are terminated, or if a final order of deportation, exclusion, or removal is entered the Secretary shall resume all powers and duties delegated to the Secretary under this Act.
(b) Stay of Removal of Certain Aliens Enrolled in Primary or Secondary School- The Attorney General shall stay the removal proceedings of any alien who--
(1) meets all the requirements of subparagraphs (A), (B), (C), and (E) of section 4(a)(1);
(2) is at least 12 years of age; and
(3) is enrolled full time in a primary or secondary school.
(c) Employment- An alien whose removal is stayed pursuant to subsection (b) may be engaged in employment in the United States consistent with the Fair Labor Standards Act (29 U.S.C. 201 et seq.) and State and local laws governing minimum age for employment.
(d) Lift of Stay- The Attorney General shall lift the stay granted pursuant to subsection (b) if the alien--
(1) is no longer enrolled in a primary or secondary school; or
(2) ceases to meet the requirements of subsection (b)(1).
SEC. 8. PENALTIES FOR FALSE STATEMENTS IN APPLICATION.
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Whoever files an application for relief under this Act and willfully and knowingly falsifies, misrepresents, or conceals a material fact or makes any false or fraudulent statement or representation, or makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false or fraudulent statement or entry, shall be fined in accordance with title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
SEC. 9. CONFIDENTIALITY OF INFORMATION.
(a) Prohibition- Except as provided in subsection (b), no officer or employee of the United States may--
(1) use the information furnished by the applicant pursuant to an application filed under this Act to initiate removal proceedings against any persons identified in the application;
(2) make any publication whereby the information furnished by any particular individual pursuant to an application under this Act can be identified; or
(3) permit anyone other than an officer or employee of the United States Government or, in the case of applications filed under this Act with a designated entity, that designated entity, to examine applications filed under this Act.
(b) Required Disclosure- The Attorney General or the Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide the information furnished under this section, and any other information derived from such furnished information, to--
(1) a duly recognized law enforcement entity in connection with an investigation or prosecution of an offense described in paragraph (2) or (3) of section 212(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)), when such information is requested in writing by such entity; or
(2) an official coroner for purposes of affirmatively identifying a deceased individual (whether or not such individual is deceased as a result of a crime).
(c) Penalty- Whoever knowingly uses, publishes, or permits information to be examined in violation of this section shall be fined not more than $10,000.
SEC. 10. EXPEDITED PROCESSING OF APPLICATIONS; PROHIBITION ON FEES.
Regulations promulgated under this Act shall provide that applications under this Act will be considered on an expedited basis and without a requirement for the payment by the applicant of any additional fee for such expedited processing.
SEC. 11. HIGHER EDUCATION ASSISTANCE.
Notwithstanding any provision of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1001 et seq.), with respect to assistance provided under title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1070 et seq.), an alien who adjusts status to that of a lawful permanent resident under this Act shall be eligible only for the following assistance under such title:
(1) Student loans under parts B, D, and E of such title IV (20 U.S.C. 1071 et seq., 1087a et seq., 1087aa et seq.), subject to the requirements of such parts.
(2) Federal work-study programs under part C of such title IV (42 U.S.C. 2751 et seq.), subject to the requirements of such part.
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(3) Services under such title IV (20 U.S.C. 1070 et seq.), subject to the requirements for such services.
SEC. 12. GAO REPORT.
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Not later than seven years after the date of enactment of this Act, the Comptroller General of the United States shall submit a report to the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate and the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives setting forth--
(1) the number of aliens who were eligible for cancellation of removal and adjustment of status under section 4(a);
(2) the number of aliens who applied for adjustment of status under section 4(a);
(3) the number of aliens who were granted adjustment of status under section 4(a); and
(4) the number of aliens whose conditional permanent resident status was removed under section 5.




if so
Horse i wont you to slap your self


what the talking about is a 6 year long conditional path to citizenship that requires completion of a college degree or two years of military service.

it does not pay it for them there a citizen until they graduate and if the do they have a higher chance to be a citizen.

so if there serving in the military they get the right to be a citizen, how is that wrong.........


second if the spent 6 years in college one would think they no our history and speak our language, honestly though 6 years in higher education is more then you have.



so what the fuck is wrong with given these people there what they have worked for.

LORD NOSE
12-16-2010, 10:30 AM
who is archie bunker?


O_UBgkFHm8o


ok sunny....your an american


says who nigga

, these dumb mexicans



nigga fuck you -


will gun you down just as quick as anyone else for their citizenship and families sake.


these mexican niggas around here is my niggas - it ain't me and you against them


theyll take orders, what orders are they going to take?

the fuck you talkin about

go bck to africa then nigger


michael rappaport in higher learning

you of ll people should know style. this is how they re going to attack american citizens. a bunch of illiterate foreigners are going to join the militarily with the threat of exportation, jail and the well being of their families, and ll they got to do is pull the trigger


scared ass white boy collecting guns and bombs cause he's scared that mexicans are coming to get him - WEAK !

Edgar Erebus
12-16-2010, 10:41 AM
http://www.moviemobsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/deliverance.jpg
^Palehorse

DeeBlock
12-16-2010, 10:42 AM
Fuck ol Palehorse (of death) and his racist militia doctrine!!!

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 11:43 AM
ok. i ws trying to debate but fuck it, lets have a free for all

im ready

americ is no longer nation of laws to protect in alienable rights

its survivl of the fittest now

anarchy

i kinda like that

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 11:53 AM
let me say this too, yll are a bunch of hypocrites, especially you STYLE. tlking bout people deserve n eduction, you know s well s i thts an indoctrintion. your a rcist too. wht seperates me from you is your also a hypocrite.

im not talking about race here you fucking bleeding hert liberls

im tlking bout nations!

you niggers in america had it better the pst 100 years then anybody in modern history

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 11:54 AM
my "a" buttons fucked up

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 11:57 AM
dont nobody owe you shit in life except you

thats gods law

Edgar Erebus
12-16-2010, 11:57 AM
Dude, you're in America because it was a country with equal rights for immigrants.

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 11:59 AM
yea for LEGAL immigrants

i dont wnt to pay for someone else to live, its called independence

Edgar Erebus
12-16-2010, 12:00 PM
What legal immigrants? What's your ancestry?

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:09 PM
it doesnt matter

this thread is bout life tody and tomorrow

What legal immigrants? What's your ancestry?

i dont know my ancestory,

LORD NOSE
12-16-2010, 12:09 PM
Pale is right

Mexico is taking over

Good


if you are gonna call "Mexicans" illegal in america - then i'm gonna call "Whites" illegal on the globe

if your fear causes you to cause chaos and death amongst those you see as "Illegal" then i hope you get caught and stopped quick - we don't need dumb scared niggas running up onto any more public places shooting it up -

Edgar Erebus
12-16-2010, 12:12 PM
^^ You doubleposted, but you have a point.

Well, you surely do have millions of illegal immigrants, so you may as well legalize them, right? It works for marijuana.

And let's not forget that America has always been a free-for-all country, just look at your delight over wild west.

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:18 PM
ok but we are at a crossroad right now

im not scared, im trying to expose a scam being played on us.


get ready for a dramatic lower living standard americans, its coming the beginning of 2011

im prepared

LORD NOSE
12-16-2010, 12:19 PM
^^ You doubleposted, but you have a point.

Well, you surely do have millions of illegal immigrants, so you may as well legalize them, right? It works for marijuana.



for us it's like white people have some fuckin nerve calling someone an illegal alien - yalls collective arrogance is gonna get yall fucked up -

And let's not forget that America has always been a free-for-all country, just look at your delight over wild west.


holding onto that old cowboys and Indians mentality ... i know yall think that yall are extra powerful and unbeatable, but that is not the case

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:21 PM
pale is right

mexico is taking over

good


if you are gonna call "mexicans" illegal in america - then i'm gonna call "whites" illegal on the globe

if your fear causes you to cause chaos and death amongst those you see as "illegal" then i hope you get caught and stopped quick - we don't need dumb scared niggas running up onto any more public places shooting it up -
they re going to cause chos and death out of fear! Thats what im saying! Your going to have an army of the dumbest immigrants(who are illegal) pointing a gun to your hed cuz your an americn citizen and they are taking orders! If they dont they go back to their illiterate poverty stricten lives! Can you get it?

THIS IS A MAJOR PART IN UNARMING AMERICANS AND BRINGING IN THE MICROCHIP AND DRAGGING AMERICANS TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS!

LORD NOSE
12-16-2010, 12:24 PM
yeah i get it


how do you know if they are dumb or not ?

PALEFORCE
12-16-2010, 12:26 PM
because thier parents came here illegally #1 and they work for a bowl of rice

most people in those conditions cont even speak spanish

nd their kids like 8 year olds, whats going to happen when big brother adopts them and puts a gun to their head?

LORD NOSE
12-16-2010, 12:28 PM
because thier parents came here illegally #1 and they work for a bowl of rice

most people in those conditions cont even speak spanish

nd their kids like 8 year olds, whats going to happen when big brother adopts them?


if this is your answer to my question, then you are the dumb one