View Full Version : The Difference Between Beef Then and Beef Now

12-30-2010, 02:48 PM
Today i look at the evolution of beef in hip hop and how it's gone from being about saving your career to being a joke that rappers use to boost sales and relevancy for all artists involved.


Note: I wrote this like two weeks ago, but after yesterday’s ridiculousness (http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/chris-brown-and-b2k-s-raz-b-twitter-fight-1004137400.story#/column/the-juice/chris-brown-and-b2k-s-raz-b-twitter-fight-1004137400.story) it’s the perfect time to drop it.

Beef happens. That shit is inevitable, and in the past it’s ruined careers and potentially been responsible for the deaths of two now legends. But the beef these days is a lot different than it was back when depicting the person you were clowning in your music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VpZk9dGXGA) actually had an impact, now it’s leaking a track on the internet. But is the progression of hip hop part of the reason why this once fierce lyrical competition between two straight up rivals has turned into some shit when a rapper can take your beat, diss you on it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w992w7nTWNI), and then you get him on a track (http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2010/12/22/kanye-west-christmas-in-harlem-f-vado-jim-jones-camron-cyhi-da-prynce-pusha-t-musiq-teyana-taylor-big-sean/) like 2 months later? Has hip hop’s growth altered the risks of beef because when it was once about saving your career it has now become a way for artists to just make more money while they’re already rich as fuck?

We’ve seen some legendary beefs in hip hop history, from Kool Moe Dee vs. LL Cool J through the KRS-One/Shan borough competition to the east/west rivalry of Biggie and Pac. We witnessed the fight to be King of New York (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAnGnevKxJE) and watched 50 Cent end Ja Rule’s career based on something he himself now does in every damn song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V-3m8Txn3k). These beefs brought out strong emotions from the MCs involved and there was sometimes violence that resulted from it, but with good reason most of the time. Ice Cube had every right to be pissed at the way Jerry Heller was playing plantation owner, which we know was true cause Dre left not too shortly after for the same damn reason. Whether it was money, or pride, or the fight for the number one spot, these mafuckas battled with purpose. They were all still hungry and struggling to make a living off this hip hop, plus none of them knew it would get this big, so when someone started some shit you were gonna end it or you were done. Now, shit is a joke.

With recent revelations that the Saigon/Joe Budden beef was basically staged (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhre4wSCU1nh9IcWlp), and the way these fabricated beefs are created more by fans and the artists sometimes play along just to make it interesting, it makes sense that none of the beefs of recent years resulted in some serious shit. Jim Jones was right when he said “they ain’t gonna do shit” as Kanye just let him swagger-jack his beat, get Cam to diss him on it, then they both hop on “Christmas in Harlem”, but why would Kanye care? He’s living the life, he don’t wanna lose out on that money. I forget where I heard it but someone told me Jay-Z said that to 50 Cent, met him backstage and 50 asked if they was gonna get violent and Jay was basically like “what and fuck up all the money? Fuck that”. In fact this whole shit started with 50 and “How To Rob” where dissing everyone in the game was what actually made him relevant in the game. And at this point unless you a killa bee and you really do live by what you rap (http://rapradar.com/2009/08/09/raekwon-confronts-joe-budden-backstage-on-rock-the-bells/), why risk anyone getting hurt when yall can both make money off the appeal of a beef between two talented lyricists?

Obviously a number of factors contribute to beef in hip hop but there definitely seems to be a correlation between the amount of money artists can make because of the growth and expansion of hip hop and the fact that beefs now are just for our entertainment instead of them actually having problems. Back then it was a struggle even when you were the best MC, with the labels raping your profits and hip hop still being completely locked out of society, now a lot of these artists are probably getting bonuses from their label for a successful beef, incentive packages and shit. But hey there’s nothing better than a good diss track, so we might as well just enjoy it and be happy that bullets ain’t flying, yet.

12-30-2010, 02:59 PM

Undiluted Karma
12-30-2010, 04:37 PM
alot of hip hop related beef is gay for a lack of better word whether 'historic' or contemporary.

whats even more funny is the fans who hang onto it with every word.

shit is real on the youtube battlefield

Kenny Powers
12-30-2010, 06:41 PM
That Chris Brown thing is ridiculous. I wouldnt even call it beef, just a couple of bitches being bitches.

-The A to the Z-
12-31-2010, 09:44 AM
With recent revelations that the Saigon/Joe Budden beef was basically staged,

Saigon didn't say it was staged really, just said they talked behind the music.

KRS-One did the same with Juice Crew and MC Shan, but you can't say that beef was fake, just not as malicious as some might have assumed.

12-31-2010, 11:25 AM
i dont if theres a difference

but your still a faggot poster.

12-31-2010, 02:21 PM
* Update Complete

Dirty Knowledge
01-02-2011, 03:34 AM
FUCK beef today. Beef is used for young kids who think that shit is cool. Beef in rap is corny as fuck at times when I think of it. "I'll put 2 to ya chest" no you won't shut that shit up you mad cuz I'm stylin on ya. LOL @ Nelly vs KRS-1.