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Hellspawn
01-10-2011, 05:49 PM
reasons of the riots :
http://www.france24.com/en/20101230-tunisia-the-rage-of-youth

Anonymous offers support to Tunisian protestors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFLaBRk9wY0&


http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201101/6639



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police shot rioters and killed 25 persons yesterday.

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now we're really pissed off !

the government declared schools and universities closed untill they decide otherwise.

Hellspawn
01-10-2011, 06:07 PM
8 more killed at least today :

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=117789271627321&comments

Edgar Erebus
01-11-2011, 12:27 PM
Heh, funny how they don't report none of that on news here. People are incredibly upset, talking about violent overthrow of the "system" all day, and all they need is a spark for the same thing to happen here. So the best you can do is not to put any of that on TV and hope nobody will notice.

Hellspawn
01-11-2011, 05:17 PM
Heh, funny how they don't report none of that on news here. People are incredibly upset, talking about violent overthrow of the "system" all day, and all they need is a spark for the same thing to happen here. So the best you can do is not to put any of that on TV and hope nobody will notice.

washington spoke about it a few times already and the embassador have been asked about it. Hillary clinton also made a statement :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110107/wl_nm/us_tunisia_protests_clinton_3

Undiluted Karma
01-11-2011, 05:23 PM
SORRY to hear that man, whats the reason?

Edgar Erebus
01-11-2011, 06:04 PM
washington spoke about it a few times already and the embassador have been asked about it. Hillary clinton also made a statement :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110107/wl_nm/us_tunisia_protests_clinton_3

Je ne suis pas un Américain. (Français non plus.)

The reason is always the same: people are getting literally sick and tired and fed up of how there can be a small clique of super rich that haven't been affected by the recession in a single bit, while everyone else is living scared of getting unemployed as there will be (or so it seems) no new jobs.

Hellspawn
01-12-2011, 02:35 AM
Je ne suis pas un Américain. (Français non plus.)

The reason is always the same: people are getting literally sick and tired and fed up of how there can be a small clique of super rich that haven't been affected by the recession in a single bit, while everyone else is living scared of getting unemployed as there will be (or so it seems) no new jobs.

Yeah this and we have a clan that is composed of the family of the president and some closed people that are mafioso and they reign over every prosperous business in the country, they take the money of the people and put it on their own personal accounts in europe and else where. the debt of the country before this actual president was 6000 B$ before him and 14 B$ now.

All websites that talk about their shady business are closed, so we dont have youtube for 10 years or more now neither the washington post, the times and such informative sites.

Hellspawn
01-12-2011, 02:36 AM
Here's an interview I gave to a swedish newspaper: http://www.sydsvenskan.se/varlden/article1348751/rdquoDet-kanns-som-en-revolutionrdquo.html

1. How is the situation at the moment, as you are writing, in Tunisia?

I am living in a coastal city called Sousse and these costal parts of the country are not as touched as the rest by the riot (even if it’s coming) because these are touristic places and there’s also more industries that’s why young people are not as desperate as those who live in the internal parts of the country. Nevertheless, students and advocates protested these last days because even if it all started because of unemployment problems now it is more general. A few hours ago people protested here in Sousse and police fired in the air to disperse them.
The riot started to spread lately to all the country and even in the capital Tunis people are protesting in spite of the violence of the police, the beatings and the lachrymal bombs.

2. I read that bloggers and a rapper has disappeared. Do you know anything about that?

Yes but this happens often in Tunisia, especially now because of the last incidents and the relative courage of people who dare talk. But before that, advocates and activists and politicians disappear and get harassed in their home by policemen. The rapper disappeared two days ago and there are rumors that he has been freed today but I don’t think it’s true, it could be the government propaganda. The blogger disappeared last week, and normally when this happens even the family knows nothing about the fate of the kidnapped. They go to ask in police stations and all but they receive no answer. People can be maintained in jail for a long time without been neither judged nor freed.

3. Why are the people uprising and protesting now?

Even if it all started by a single incident of a man who burned himself, that incident was a catalyst that woke Tunisians up, we were silent for too long. People are fed up about the regime and its oppression. All Tunisians understand the desperation of the young man who burned himself and the anger of his city but the reaction of the police was way too aggressive and violent (the right of riot and strike is prohibited in Tunisia).

And starting from then it was a chain reaction, people protested against the violence of the police and the police stroked back more violently until this week-end the army occupied some internal cities as Tela, El Jem etc… They fired at people and killed 8 according to the government (who accused them of wanting to pillage the governmental buildings) and 19 according to people and FB (you have to add this to the 4 or 5 killed last week for the same reasons + 3 people who killed themselves; 2 by the fire and one who climbed an electricity pole).

Even advocates have been assaulted and university professors have been beaten down here in Sousse on Friday.

Moreover, the slogan that comes back often is against the family of the president. They are accused to rob all the money of the country through their shady business. People also request more freedom of speech as everyone who speaks has to visit either jail or the hospital. Youtube is closed as most sites in which you can post videos, also all the Facebook pages that speaks about the president and his family (including famous sites as the Washington post etc… French and English) are unreachable. That’s why Tunisians have recourse to proxies to visit these sites.

4. What do the people you know say about all this?

All people in Tunisia are sympathizing but not all dare go down in the streets because the repression is way too violent and a lot of us have families and a lot to lose. We all know the outcome; jail for years and family harassment or death without any kind of justice. We were silent until lately and we all wish for change so we do our little activist at our own level by sharing FB news, videos and pictures. It is already a never known situation that people post stuff about the president and mockery pictures, videos etc…

5. How does it affect you?

It is not yet affecting me economically, I know it will, but as a Tunisian citizen I know that my country is going straight to the wall. The economic model is at its limits and the propaganda that consists at “every thing’s OK” is fooling nobody anymore. If you add to this the lack of freedoms and the fact that we are treated as ignorant children by the TV and the newspapers which are all under the control of the government, you have an explosive recipe that will blow up soon or later.

6. What will happend next do you think?

There are two options;
1- or the government will weaken and respond positively by permitting more freedom of speech, a real transparency and getting in touch with the people and also a real opposition (which is absent today due to governmental oppressions as not permitting reunions etc…). In this case, it will calm down (for a few more years).

2- the government will stand its ground and get more and more violent (as it is the case) with the rioters, in this case it will certainly calm down soon -one day or another- but the next awake will be worse.

pro.Graveface
01-12-2011, 04:50 AM
May PEACE return and may the dead find tere light and rest in peace,
Spawn stay safe!
ICHI

TheBoarzHeadBoy
01-12-2011, 09:16 AM
Apparently the riots are spreading into Algeria... Not sure what that means.

Go Hannibal on 'em. (The Statesman, Strategist, and Tactician, not the Cannibal.)

"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. "
-Thomas Jefferson on the Boston Tea Party

LORD NOSE
01-12-2011, 09:48 AM
i just wish that there was a way that all the men of the world can sit down, via skype or something and talk to each other about how they are going to stop the violence on a global level -



the people who are getting killed are not the rich blood suckers of the poor - the angry poor are the the ones being killed -



leaving only the others who will now do what the rich want them to do - showing your anger by rioting just leaves us dead - this is how the rich get rid of those who want to rise up against them -

they get them to riot, in their own areas, blowing up their own selves

LORD NOSE
01-12-2011, 09:52 AM
ni8FQ_9uOtU

V4D3R
01-12-2011, 11:09 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/12/tunisia.protests/index.html

Tunis, Tunisia (CNN) -- The number of people killed during riots in Tunisia recently is about 21, the government said Wednesday, rejecting international media reports that the figure is higher.
Tunisian President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali has fired Interior Minister Rafik Belhaj Kacem, the government announced Wednesday, in the wake of the deadly protests over high unemployment and poor living conditions.
Ahmad Freaa will be his replacement, Minister of Information Samir Abidi announced.
Prime Minister Mohamed Ghannouchi declined to answer a CNN question about whether live ammunition or snipers were used against demonstrators, saying those matters will be part of an investigation into the conduct of the security forces.
Everyone arrested in the past few days has been released other than those accused of looting and vandalism, he said.
Ghannouchi also announced that Tunisia will begin providing a monthly grant and social security coverage to every unemployed person, providing they do nonprofit or volunteer work while looking for jobs.
The U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, urged the Tunisian government in a statement "to ensure that its security forces cease using excessive force against demonstrators, and to launch transparent and credible investigations into the deaths."
While the situation escalated over the weekend, deaths were also previously reported in preceding weeks, the statement said.
"Whatever the precise total (of deaths), I am extremely concerned about the very high number of people killed in Tunisia in recent weeks," Pillay said. "It is essential that basic international human rights norms and guidelines governing the use of firearms are urgently and strictly adhered to."
Reports suggest that most protests have been peaceful and that security forces used excessive force, she said in the statement.
A leading human rights group, Amnesty International, condemned Friday what it called a violent crackdown by Tunisian authorities on the recent protests.
The wave of demonstrations was sparked by the suicide of an unemployed college graduate in early December.
Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire in front of a government building in the town of Sidi Bouzid after police confiscated his fruit cart, saying he was selling without a permit, according to Amnesty International. He died January 4 from his injuries.
The protests grew in size and sometimes turned violent.
Human rights groups said last week at least three others have died since the protests started -- two demonstrators shot by police and another man who electrocuted himself by touching a 30,000-megawatt pole and shouting, "No to misery! No to unemployment!"
Amnesty reported that 10 other protesters have been injured in confrontations with security forces and that lawyers have been singled out for beatings and arrest after a nationwide sit-in on December 31.
If there is evidence that members of the security forces have used excessive force or conducted extra-judicial killings, they should be arrested, tried and -- if convicted -- punished, Pillay said in the statement.
She also expressed concern about reports of widespread arrests, including those of human rights advocates and bloggers advocating human rights, as well as reports that those detained are being mistreated and tortured.
"While it is correct that people should be arrested if there is evidence they have committed crimes such as violence or arson, no one should be arrested or harassed for standing up for human rights," she said. "Human rights defenders and bloggers, arrested solely for their peaceful activities, must be released immediately."
Tunisian authorities have said they are acting in self-defense. Security forces fired on protesters in December, the state-run TAP news agency reported at the time.
Witnesses say the demonstrators consisted largely of people urging the government to improve social services. Tunisia's government called them violent troublemakers.
Tunisia has been ruled for 23 years by Ben Ali, an ally of Western powers and a target of activist and human rights groups that claim he runs a corrupt police state that has infringed on citizens' rights.

V4D3R
01-12-2011, 11:14 AM
^^That grant shit is slavery and a write-off to the enemy.

This is some disgusting shit. I couldn't find one story on this on CBC (Canada's top news).
It's blatant too.

Hellspawn
01-12-2011, 04:32 PM
curfew from 18h00 to 06h00, police can shoot at will. Rioters still in action, more deads tonight.

HANZO
01-12-2011, 05:35 PM
why does stuff like this happen in muslim countries?

why is it that our so called leaders are oppressive dictators?

how can one be president since 1987?? this isnt just a problem with Tunisia but Egypt and other North African countries.

in the middle east the same can be said but instead of president you have a King, Ayatollah or Amir.

there needs to be a revolution a proper one that will get rid of the authoritarian dictatorships in the region.

its just sad.

LORD NOSE
01-12-2011, 07:24 PM
why does stuff like this happen in muslim countries?

why is it that our so called leaders are oppressive dictators?

how can one be president since 1987?? this isnt just a problem with Tunisia but Egypt and other North African countries.

in the middle east the same can be said but instead of president you have a King, Ayatollah or Amir.

there needs to be a revolution a proper one that will get rid of the authoritarian dictatorships in the region.

its just sad.


they were planted as enemies by enemies of Muslims - to cause chaos and disorder among kith and kin

RALPH WIGGUM
01-13-2011, 09:34 AM
Riots are completely justified, the repression is disgusting, and even more disgusting is Europe's silence on it.

European governements, especially France's are afraid to denounce the repression. They pretend its because Ben Ali keeps Al Qaeda away. Really though, they just don't want to fight with a friend.
If the Iranians are rioting they say they support their struggle, but if Tunisians riot, they say "you can't really call Ben Ali a dictator"

I heard the americans want a new regime to be instaured with one member of Ben Ali's government, one who is rather independant and isn't touched by the accusations of corruption. Plus they know that right now, Ben Ali's attitude is more likely to help Al Qaeda in the country.

Hellspawn
01-14-2011, 04:43 PM
we kicked the dictator out ! we won ! 9:|6

Hellspawn
01-14-2011, 08:34 PM
http://photo.parismatch.com/media/photos2/actu/monde/revolution-en-tunisie/rtxwkil/2354293-1-fre-FR/RTXWKIL_galleryphoto_paysage_std.jpg

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Hellspawn
01-17-2011, 07:26 PM
the ex president released 3000 armed soldiers against his people, alot of killed.

the police is fired and the temporary president ask the people to defend the country with the army (we are a policial country 180000 against 45000 soldier).

we organised the resistance.

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we have right to stop police cars and verify their identity, we make the police to the police :lmao: it's crazy!!!!!!

Hellspawn
01-17-2011, 07:29 PM
now that I've written that and reread it, it sounds unbelievable! I am now in the streets with all my neignbours (same in every street corner through all the country) waiting to be attacked in anytime by a fully armed mercenary, wtf?

LORD NOSE
01-17-2011, 07:43 PM
deep

HANZO
01-17-2011, 07:51 PM
Hellspawn is too real. many speak about it but few have the balls to go down in the streets and be part of a real revolution.

much much respect

Iv been reading that Bin Ali's wife left the country with 1.5 tons of gold. any truth to that?

Hellspawn
01-17-2011, 08:00 PM
yes it's true, his fortune is 5000000000$ and hers 17000000000$

Hellspawn
01-17-2011, 08:10 PM
What we do to the policemen of the ancient regime who try to kill us :

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Dirty Knowledge
01-17-2011, 08:14 PM
i just wish that there was a way that all the men of the world can sit down, via skype or something and talk to each other about how they are going to stop the violence on a global level -


There is a way. You find out the emails the yahoos the direct links to the people in power, the people in the street, the people in the middle back left right, get them on their CPUs and put a headset on them. If we can get battles on skype and shit we could definitely do that without a doubt.

Hell, be safe, stay healthy man. Keep us updated on your situation homie.

TheBoarzHeadBoy
01-17-2011, 10:10 PM
What we do to the policemen of the ancient regime who try to kill us :

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The hell are going on in those videos?

Hellspawn
01-18-2011, 04:17 AM
thats what we do to the cops that we catch. this is what's happening all around the country : 13000000 Tunisians vs 3000 policemen (including special force, elite cops, personal president's bodygards) fully armed.

Hellspawn
01-18-2011, 05:52 AM
we and the army control a police car :

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs797.ash1/168771_10150097614899057_751999056_5910818_6725503 _n.jpg

V4D3R
01-18-2011, 06:24 AM
the videos are down.

Hellspawn much respect to you and your people - this is beautiful.

Hellspawn
01-18-2011, 07:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYrQHu84K8U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgRLnvyfptg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqBTRIFIDSE

V4D3R
01-18-2011, 08:17 AM
Damyummmmm

Dont oppress a people.
Just imagine how some of these dudes have family members they oppressing.
Whack as fuck.

Hellspawn
01-18-2011, 08:32 AM
Damyummmmm

Dont oppress a people.
Just imagine how some of these dudes have family members they oppressing.
Whack as fuck.

these bleeding and killed men are corrupted cops

they spend the last three days to fire at people, they wanted to make the chaos so we beg their chief (our ex president), to come back and restore the peace, they faced 14000000 citizen with rocs, sticks, gaz spray, knifes etc to welcome them, it is almost safe now.

pro.Graveface
01-18-2011, 09:37 AM
Peace,
mad wild situation, stay safe!
Spawn yo ICHI

Hellspawn
01-26-2011, 02:42 AM
Obama on the people of Tunisia :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUjbtoSDWKY