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002
06-19-2005, 01:10 PM
i cant fuckin believe this. anyway, i hear Premo is tired of Guru's bullshit... muthafucka's depressed and shit.... takin drugs.... and their label's trin to fuck them.... so they broke up after a magnificent career... at least 3 classic albums.... Hard to Earn, Moment of Truth and Owners baing classics in my opinion.... anyway there's more info at http://www.gurugangstarr.com (http://www.gurugangstarr.com/) peace

someone
06-19-2005, 01:19 PM
:( :( :( :o :o :o :'o :'o :'o :'o :'o :no: :no: :no: }:T }:T }:T :'( :'( :'( :'( ;( ;( ;( ;(

Tage
06-19-2005, 01:20 PM
lol, gangstarr came to my town a few weeks ago, wished i tried to get in...

oh well, dont really feel them that much.

Cm0ney
06-19-2005, 01:24 PM
they were good too

wufan10304
06-19-2005, 01:31 PM
damn..

faderlaceratah
06-19-2005, 02:19 PM
how many times have they broken up? they're like a couple.

shadow_god
06-19-2005, 02:20 PM
whoa

Microphone Fiend
06-19-2005, 02:44 PM
Maybe this opens the door for Krumbsnatcha+Premo?

tical2000
06-19-2005, 02:55 PM
shit that sucks.........they had a great run........props to them

mn2683
06-19-2005, 02:58 PM
hmm...this is a shitty turn of events

on the other hand, i'm tryin to get ahold of unreleased premo beats, if anyone has any, please PM me, i'd be willing to trade what i got

Analyze
06-19-2005, 03:00 PM
I cant see Guru over anybody else's tracks. Maybe thats why I didnt get any of the Jazzmatazz albums.

Wu Forever

Funk_Dock
06-19-2005, 04:06 PM
now thats a damn shame..

Create
06-19-2005, 04:32 PM
Lmao Only 3 Classic Albums Ur A Retard

They Got Over 4 Classic Albums

002
06-19-2005, 04:32 PM
Guru's fucked up on drugs, man. right now, nahmsayin.

I-Legit
06-19-2005, 04:33 PM
lol

Wu-Tality
06-19-2005, 04:35 PM
Guru on drugs is like the opposite on what hes saying in his rhymes heh

R3beLuTionAry
06-19-2005, 06:27 PM
hmm...this is a shitty turn of events

on the other hand, i'm tryin to get ahold of unreleased premo beats, if anyone has any, please PM me, i'd be willing to trade what i got


wassup dude remember me, im "murs" from back in the day

TonyStarks29
06-19-2005, 06:32 PM
I'm not so sure if I believe this is final, or if it even happened, these dudes always break up. Who knows, I hope not.

Butter
06-19-2005, 06:52 PM
i have some pics of when Guru came down to our town.

TonyStarks29
06-19-2005, 06:54 PM
Up them

Prolifical ENG
06-19-2005, 07:03 PM
how many times have they broken up? they're like a couple.


hahahahaha

But yeah, almost all gangstarr albums are classic....except their first, No More Mr Nice Guy....quite the oppsite in most rappers careers who have their debut album their classic.

ballistic
06-19-2005, 07:09 PM
wow...guru's into drugs and depressed? never thought i'd hear that, but i guess anyone is susceptible to life...

on a side note, it would be tight if nas took guru's place. nas said that his next album would be exclusively produced by premo anyway...imagine that.

Definitive X
06-19-2005, 07:14 PM
They're probably not broken up...rumors been out since their third album...

mn2683
06-19-2005, 07:20 PM
on a side note, it would be tight if nas took guru's place. nas said that his next album would be exclusively produced by premo anyway...imagine that. wait what?!!? so is this true or just wishful thinking?

TonyStarks29
06-19-2005, 07:25 PM
Naw, I think it may be true, I heard that too, that Nas will be produced by stricly Premo next, and last, album.

Ghost_Deini_
06-19-2005, 07:30 PM
if that nas rumor is true... thatd be amazing, ill buy it. but about gang starr, that really sucks... i was hoping to hear more from them... legends.

it sucks taht there was a conflict between jeru and primo, id love to see another jeru album produced by primo. they were a killer mix.

ballistic
06-19-2005, 07:37 PM
i saw on SOHH that the next nas album is supposedly called "NASdaq" or something like that...but yeah i really hope its all produced by premo. a back to the basics album of sorts would be refreshing, especially after the mature, grown man themes were exhausted in street's disciple.

whitey
06-19-2005, 07:49 PM
on a side note, it would be tight if nas took guru's place. nas said that his next album would be exclusively produced by premo anyway...imagine that.

this is what nas needs. some shit like illmatic that has a flow the the album. not all choppy with lots of songs coming from all over the place like sd.

cd
06-19-2005, 08:42 PM
GUru's new album is really good

PDTantisocial
06-19-2005, 10:04 PM
^^Word, it's tight shit. And, replace Hard To Earn with Daily Operation on there and you got their 3 classics list.

ballistic
06-19-2005, 11:45 PM
this is what nas needs. some shit like illmatic that has a flow the the album. not all choppy with lots of songs coming from all over the place like sd.

i liked sd but i see what you're saying...

Rebel_INS
06-20-2005, 12:12 AM
Sucks .........

Protection
06-20-2005, 07:35 AM
I don't believe this.

Welshkillabee
06-20-2005, 07:43 AM
Ah fuck no! this cant be! Surely not?

Butter
06-20-2005, 08:39 AM
Up them
ill try to tommorow, i dont have a scanner here.

Krimewave
06-20-2005, 09:06 AM
damn shame.

ain't no one sound as good on Premo's beats as Guru.

Gangstarr are defo one of the top five Hip hop groups ever.
anyone who don't think so needs to go get their ears checked out by the doctor.

ShogunAssassin
06-20-2005, 09:37 AM
this sucks big time

pablobaluba
06-20-2005, 01:10 PM
the most influencial hip hop groups ever
rip

BRONZBODY
06-20-2005, 01:19 PM
man my brother is gonna shit his drawers when he hears this....



but the have been breaking up since operation dropped.......

cutthroat
06-20-2005, 11:17 PM
Damn, hope it's not true.

Also, you have to add "Step in the Arena" in their list of classics.

Hyder
06-21-2005, 01:51 AM
All respect to them, if it wasn't for their music... i wouldn't be into hip hop.

002
06-21-2005, 06:33 AM
New York combo Gangstarr were among the most influential hip-hop acts in the late 80s. The group have since inspired true-school MCs, beatmakers and DJs across the globe. But now, out of the blue, Gangstarr have called it quits.

Guru (aka Keith Elam) is embarking on a solo career, while DJ Premier (Christopher Martin) is (presumably) focussing on studio production. Guru, who took time out from Gangstarr for his critically adored Jazzmatazz in the early 90s, is re-establishing his identity with Version 7.0: The Street Scriptures out later this month via his own indie label, Seven Grand Records.

Guru is currently previewing Version 7.0 on his first Australian solo tour. Ask him how the album compares to his previous endeavours and the MC pulls no punches.

“First of all, I would say it’s the most important because it represents Guru’s emancipation from the major label influences,” he asserts, speaking (for some reason) in third person. “This is my own label, so it’s not only a solo project, but it is Guru as a CEO of his solo project. So it’s a different look.

“Basically, this is more important than any other solo project I’ve done. Also, Jazzmatazz, which was my first solo project, will be coming out through Seven Grand Records as well, so everything that Guru does in the future will be coming through this label.”

Guru is accompanied on Version 7.0 by such disparate identities as Styles P, Jaguar Wright, Jean Grae, Talib Kweli and B-Real. However, the MC stresses that Version 7.0, which he co-produced with the relatively unknown Solar, is distinct from his collaborative Jazzmatazz volumes.

“Jazzmatazz is jazz – it’s not pure hip-hop. It’s hip hop and jazz. This is a pure hip-hop album. This album is for the streets.”

The response in the US to lead single ‘Cave In’ has been “ridiculous”, according to Guru. It seems like he’s well and truly back with a bang.

But what of Gangstarr? The group may be revered by underground hip-hop devotees, but they never matched the commercial success of their peers (like De La Soul) and so, after the disappointment of sixth album The Ownerz, they apparently decided to let it go.

Above all, Gangstarr were unhappy with their label, Virgin. Their promotion was mishandled and they were forced to liaise with a succession of A&R reps. No sooner had they built a relationship with a rep, he or she would be fired in yet another downsizing purge.

“Not only that, but you’ve got A&R and executives making decisions who are not from the culture, not from the streets,” Guru says.

It was around the time Gangstarr released The Ownerz that Guru befriended Solar, his current collaborator.

“I was telling him about a lot of this frustration and he said to me, ‘Well, if it’s that bad, why don’t you start your own label?’. He’s like, ‘Jay-Z did it. Puff did it… all these guys. They ain’t got nuttin’ on you. You’re talented, you’ve got experience, why don’t you do it?’.

“I was like, ‘Hmm’… and here we are.”

Guru conceived Gangstarr in his home city of Boston. Determined to enter the music industry, this son of the city’s first black judge studied business management. He formed Gangstarr with a fellow Bostonian, DJ Mike Dee, but, after aligning themselves with Wild Pitch, they fell out. Guru discovered Christopher Martin (then DJing under the Waxmaster C moniker and involved with Insane Clown Posse) by way of a demo in the label’s office. Martin had been studying computer science until Guru convinced him to join Gangstarr in New York. When he relocated, Martin changed his DJ name to Premier.

Gangstarr debuted on Wild Pitch with No More Mr Nice Guy, switching to Chrysalis (EMI) for 1991’s Step In The Arena and consolidating their fan base with Daily Operation. They connected with a progressive jazz community early, vibing with Branford Marsalis on a track for Spike Lee’s Mo’ Better Blues.

Shortly after, Guru formulated his groundbreaking Jazzmatazz, Vol 1 and showed the world the affinity between jazz and hip-hop. Meanwhile, he sustained his allegiance to straight-up hip hop with Gangstarr.

Despite recent events, there have been no reports of Gangstarr’s demise. The two toured Australia in 2004 with Good Vibrations and all seemed well. So what exactly is their status?

“Gangstarr is a legacy, so I’m putting that legacy to rest. I don’t wanna milk it,” Guru says. He offers another analogy: the boxing champion who refuses to retire, only to enter the ring and be swiftly knocked out. Guru didn’t want to walk down that road.

“That’s what happens to a lot of artists from my era, or old-school artists, when they’ve gone past a certain point. I never wanted to go out like that. So what I did was reinvent and recreate.”

Similarly, Guru admires how Snoop Dogg severed ties with Dr Dre rather than strived to relive Doggystyle. The Gs remain on friendly terms, yet Snoop is recasting himself with The Neptunes’ assistance.

“That is very similar to Guru and Premier and now Guru and Solar,” Guru offers

Still, Guru shies away from using the ‘S’ word (that’s “split”) to describe Gangstarr, explaining it has negative connotations. After all, all is good between the Gangstarr boys. They’ve just moved on.

“I’ve moved on ’cause ‘splitting up’ would imply a whole bunch of other things and I don’t even have time for all that. But, if you wanna say ‘split up’, you could say ‘split up’. What I’m saying is it is what it is.”

http://www.timeoff.com.au/archive/1227/interviews/2.html (http://www.timeoff.com.au/archive/1227/interviews/2.html)

36chambers
06-21-2005, 07:00 AM
Dont belive it.

and its not on Guru's site, ill wait for an official statement.

I-Legit
06-21-2005, 07:22 AM
Hip-Hop is fucked up.......Gangstarr breakin up, Mob Deep and M.O.P. signing to G-Unit, Mike Jones....the list goes on and on....

mutha fucka

ballistic
06-21-2005, 12:00 PM
well that sounds fairly reasonable...if that's a legitimate article, which i think it is, then i'm content with guru and premiere going their separate ways.
so is jazzmatazz really good? never heard it, but i'm a sucker for jazz + hip hop, so i might have to...

FlamingSwordz
06-21-2005, 01:45 PM
Ugh.. I hope this isn't true, but I got a bad feeling about this...