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LHX
10-18-2005, 09:29 AM
expert estimates predict as many as 300 000 000 deaths world wide (worst case scenario)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20051018/ca_pr_on_wo/eu_bird_flu

Triple B
10-18-2005, 09:30 AM
first asia, then romenia and Turkey, now greece..

dang, this shit is coming close..

LHX
10-18-2005, 09:33 AM
and somehow
man still thinks that the best approach is to disinfect the entire planet

you see the guys in this picture?

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20051018/i/r1334447089.jpg

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20051018/i/r1334447089.jpg?

they arent putting out a fire

they are 'disinfecting'



are they gonna disinfect the entire planet?





you do know that the word 'anti-biotic' means 'anti-life' right?


you know why those guys are wearing masks?

because the shit they are spraying is poison




you are prolly breathing some of it right now

oh well



maybe next life theyll try harder

100pr00f
10-18-2005, 09:34 AM
its not killing peeps yet..even though thier have been a few deaths from it.....it has not evoved to were it can spread to humens yet

and when that happens we are all screwd....
every year this has happen ...but now it has spreaded farther but it has not evolved to the fourm were it will spread from bird to humen and then humen to humen

LHX
10-18-2005, 09:36 AM
i guess the answer is for everybody to kill themselves and everything else

that way nobody has to worry

Sweet6
10-18-2005, 09:37 AM
My bird got the flu.

TeknicelStylez
10-18-2005, 12:44 PM
Who cares...

KidSha
10-18-2005, 01:18 PM
Damn people gotta wake up...

LadyRectah
10-18-2005, 01:30 PM
Times are coming..

Os3y3ris
10-18-2005, 01:34 PM
LHX, when someone starts a fight, what do you do? You hit them. This will quite likely break your hand, but it will break his face. All conflict involves sacrifice. This poison they spray is that sacrifice. Live with it.

LHX
10-18-2005, 01:40 PM
LHX, when someone starts a fight, what do you do? You hit them. This will quite likely break your hand, but it will break his face. All conflict involves sacrifice. This poison they spray is that sacrifice. Live with it.
noooooooooooooooooooooo way dude

the flu is not 'starting a fight'



and if it is
then i think you got it the other way around


if you were a planet
getting pillaged by two-legged imperialistic retards who approached the symbiotic relationship with the intent to kill everything that they cant destroy

what would you do?

you would send a bird virus over the surface of the place
and hope to god it would do in most of the retards


as we continue to find toxic and self-destructive ways to postpone the inevitable



all in good fun

(cardinals got lucky last night - astros take game 6)

Os3y3ris
10-18-2005, 01:48 PM
the flu is not 'starting a fight'
Your body thinks otherwise. Its a threat to us so we destroy it. Its a simple as that. Externally if we can, internally if not.

you would send a bird virus over the surface of the place
and hope to god it would do in most of the retards
Why? The planet has no stake in life. It was here before life and will be here after life. What does it care what we destroy? Should we destroy everything in our range, as many species have, we die, and balance is restored. Homostasis is the term?

LHX
10-18-2005, 01:52 PM
maybe it is homostasis we are currently experiencing then


personally

i like he symbiotic approach



prefer to work with my surroundings rather than try in vain to kill it until i have made in uninhabitable for myself

personally

Os3y3ris
10-18-2005, 02:11 PM
That makes sense, but the flu will kill us, or at the least make us very uncomfortable. Worth wiping out. Look at the native americans and small pox. Thats certainly something they would've liked to see dead.

LHX
10-18-2005, 02:15 PM
O

i dont want to play the 'man-made-small-pox' game


we cant keep approaching these flus the way we are

every time we 'wipe them out' they become stronger

and man become relatively weaker




everybody gonna be walking around inside a bubble
physically
not just mentally

Os3y3ris
10-18-2005, 02:30 PM
i dont want to play the 'man-made-small-pox' game
Um, huh? What game is that? They didn't make the thing as it killed them too, they simply spread it. The main point isn't the origin though, but that its something that needed to be killed.

we cant keep approaching these flus the way we are

every time we 'wipe them out' they become stronger

and man become relatively weaker
Untrue. We've been fine since 1918. Almost 100 years. Thats hardly a steady progression of flu strenght. Also, we haven't been getting weaker. Everytime we survive something we get STRONGER. You catch the chicken pox, what happens? You don't get it again because you're stronger. So when you survive last seasons flu, you're tougher because of it. When man survives a disaster and learns from it, we're stronger.

crass
10-18-2005, 02:33 PM
what happens is governments don't invest and spend money on science and research, so when something like this happens, everyone panics because there's no vaccine.

Os3y3ris
10-18-2005, 02:41 PM
The government DOES spend money on the research. Thats why theres a vaccine EVERY YEAR for the flu. Problem is that that shit mutates and shit all the time.

Triple B
10-18-2005, 03:06 PM
You catch the chicken pox, what happens? You don't get it again because you're stronger. So when you survive last seasons flu, you're tougher because of it. When man survives a disaster and learns from it, we're stronger.
so we're kind of undermining our own natural selection by using desinfection and medication? It's not the fittest who survive but the ones with either a good healthcare system or lost of money, which is contradictionary to the selection nature has been relying on since it all started.

Os3y3ris
10-18-2005, 03:18 PM
Wrong. Is not coummunity a natural function?

LHX
10-18-2005, 05:10 PM
Untrue. We've been fine since 1918. Almost 100 years. Thats hardly a steady progression of flu strenght. Also, we haven't been getting weaker. Everytime we survive something we get STRONGER. You catch the chicken pox, what happens? You don't get it again because you're stronger. So when you survive last seasons flu, you're tougher because of it. When man survives a disaster and learns from it, we're stronger.
when man survives a flu without intervention he gets stronger

the reason why we took a sudden turn and appeared 'healthier' (in response to your 1918 bit) is because anti-biotics became prevalent this past century


this is where the 'buy-now-pay-later' theory comes into effect


if you are using anything other than food as your medecine you are in for some trouble




and O

when was the last time you saw a group of people learn from a disaster and not make the same mistakes?

Sweet6
10-18-2005, 05:12 PM
World War 1

oh wait..

good point.

SubtleEnergies
10-18-2005, 07:39 PM
I don't listen to the media too seriously since they told me we were all gonna die of SARS and then it vanished killin like 30 people. Fuckin fear mongers to get you to read.

And O, when someone starts a fight with LHX he actually DOESN'T hit them. lol

Sweet6
10-18-2005, 07:51 PM
I heard Katrina victims refused meat from England because they're paranoid about the mad cow dissease.

Os3y3ris
10-18-2005, 08:14 PM
when man survives a flu without intervention he gets stronger
I wasn't referring to the immune system. In terms if dealing with pandemics we've progressed. In terms of dealing with disease we've progressed. At the very least we can look back and take notes.

the reason why we took a sudden turn and appeared 'healthier' (in response to your 1918 bit) is because anti-biotics became prevalent this past century
Also, the flu strains are different.

this is where the 'buy-now-pay-later' theory comes into effect
Lets say you don't fight teh first thing that comes your way. You're not gonna live to pay later. I'll buy now, than you.


if you are using anything other than food as your medecine you are in for some trouble
I'm healthy enough not to need most medicines or vaccines, but not medicating yourself when in dire straits is foolishness.

when was the last time you saw a group of people learn from a disaster and not make the same mistakes?
The Japanese off the top of my head.

World War 1

oh wait..

good point.
WW1 was caused in large part by tangled alliances. WW2 was caused by rampant fascism, racism and nationalism.

I heard Katrina victims refused meat from England because they're paranoid about the mad cow dissease.
More like the government did.

And O, when someone starts a fight with LHX he actually DOESN'T hit them. lol
Thats sad.

LHX
10-18-2005, 08:38 PM
Lets say you don't fight teh first thing that comes your way. You're not gonna live to pay later. I'll buy now, than you.


PEACE O

we reach our fundamental difference

its all love tho

PEACE



LHX -
lets other forces do the fighting for him

tostones
10-18-2005, 09:06 PM
peace

Viruses are a fact of life. every organism is victimized by viruses, every organism has defenses against them. The tree of life will never be free of these parasites. Mutation and natural selection guarantee that viral genomes will continually adapt to the defenses offered by their hosts, regardless of whether those defenses are devised by the immune system or by biomedical researchers. Thus, combating them demands eternal vigilance. Obviously prenventive medicine should be a main message.

I've read about the dangers of vaccines, but the fact is that they have helped control: Small pox, TB, the Plague, Rabies, Diptheria, Yellow Fever and more.

One could say that 150 years ago, a very large percentage of us, possibly yourself or your entire family, would not be here right now if not for vaccines.

peace

LHX
10-18-2005, 09:12 PM
viruses are a refining tool for the righteous

i remember a dude getting interviewed who survived ebola when it busted out
interviewer: 'how'd you do it?'
guy: 'i stayed very still'




lets not make life too over-rated

the whole 'you wouldnt be here' shit belongs in disney movies



fuck vaccines

take the poison out of the food and lets see whats up

tostones
10-18-2005, 09:25 PM
viruses are a refining tool for the righteous

i remember a dude getting interviewed who survived ebola when it busted out
interviewer: 'how'd you do it?'
guy: 'i stayed very still'

lets not make life too over-rated
the whole 'you wouldnt be here' shit belongs in disney movies

fuck vaccines
take the poison out of the food and lets see whats
Similar to how humans that act like viruses are a refining tool for the righteous?

Interesting perspective.

The "wouldn't be here" comment though, while corny is probably true, regardless. I tend to hold life among the highest blessings.

Eating right would probably help to the point of looking miraculous. but the viruses still wouldn't go anywhere, and eventually probably evolve to the future standard, as is true for all organisms whose intake is perfectly at balance with the earth.

peace

LHX
10-18-2005, 10:11 PM
viruses and man coexist - if there is no man there is no virus


so who exactly is it that these viruses are killing?

tostones
10-18-2005, 10:19 PM
peace LHX,

not sure I understand your question, maybe something to do with the parasitic relationship of them?

viruses kill every type of organism on earth, meaning every form of life.

regardless if man was here or not, viruses would be here.

Os3y3ris
10-19-2005, 03:06 AM
viruses and man coexist - if there is no man there is no virusA. They were here before us.
B. They're designed to destroy cells and kill the host.
C. They're not organisms. You talk about them like they're alive. They're not.

If you meant bacteria, you'd have a philosophical point of some sort, but virii are simply destruction.