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TSA
04-12-2011, 02:24 AM
I think so.

alright fag. i'll let you in on the real conspiracy, faggot.




14 trillion dollar debt?
really?


do you REALLY believe this type of money EVER existed?

according to the world bank in 2009 the world was worth
$58.14 Trillion

China$7,800,000,000,000
Japan$4,487,000,000,000
Germany$3,319,000,000,000
India$2,863,000,000,000
UK$2,278,999,982,080
Russia$2,224,999,890,944

22.7 trillion <- total worth.




For the United state of have had that much money laying around to BORROW, the 6 richest countries in the world would have had to lend us over half of there ENTIRE total wealth. yeah the fuck right.

just imagine the US, worth 14 trillion (oddly as much as our total debt), giving half of it's total worth to maybe say China. wtf?


like half the money you own taken from you and lent to china.



but that's not how it works. The money is sitting in a bank or an account or on some paper, and the person uses it as 'leverage' to get a loan for even more money, assets for a loan, but this is the world we're talking about. Who do the borrowers borrow from if the top 10 of them (all heavily in debt) control more then half of all the money in the world? Nobody. There's literally nowhere the money they're borrowing can come from, their own wealth is simply assets they've used to show banks that don't exist that they're at a financial standing that can support a loan that is several times their worth.

but the amount we owe, being more then we're actually worth, means america will NEVER be able to EVER pay off it's debt.


im gonna just get to the point. 14 trillion dollars of the world economy, doesn't exist.

what's happening in the world, from my vague understanding of finance and general macro theory is essentially we took a loan to buy a 14 million dollar house from a housing company that's worth 200,000 and took a load to build the house and have a 14 dollar and hour job, now the housing company is asking for its money and realizing it doesn't exist, it can't pay it's debt, it's gonna go bankrupt, and your going to lose your house AND still owe.


if you're too lazy to deal with my babbling, which i have to admit is a sloppy paste together of random brain farts, peep le' math,

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

and when you're looking at those numbers remember we're worth 14 trillion and 14 trillion dollars of the world's wealth (that i know of) has never existed, it's just been 'oh i'll pay you tomorrow when i get my paycheck' money.












^This is the worth of the next 6 richest countries in the world.

TSA
04-12-2011, 02:28 AM
the worst is if the US admits 14 trillion dollars have literally been made up out of thin air (if not more) and there's no way in hell expecially with the cost of government it will EVER be paid off, it will create a 14 trillion dollar hole in a 54 trillion dollar economy or (rough estimate) a 20%+ hole in the world economy.

almost everything will drop instantly by 20% minimum, most will just cease to exist, it will be several thousand times more sever then the great depression for the west.

TSA
04-12-2011, 02:32 AM
Also. US Military Spending is the only thing keeping the world alive right now.

the US government is the ONLY entity with an obligation to buy american, the military more so then anything, if it stops, it'll be a 700Billion+ hole in the US economy of REAL money.

The US therefore doesn't only need to be in a state of constant build-up, but more importantly a state of constant war/tension/conflict to justify the spending.

TSA
04-12-2011, 02:45 AM
Here the real shit.


not only do the politicians sign imaginary checks, most of the the money is totally and completely pocketed in order for individuals to stay competitive in the power struggle of democracy politics and geopolitics more importantly.



In Nigeria there's two levels of money. suit money, and agbada money (agbada=flowing robe)

niggas with suit money have money but i can run out. millions of dollars, but it's finite, it's real, their wealth is about maintaining.

niggas with agbada money have infinite money. their concern therefore isn't having money, it's keeping money coming because the cup can never empty if the tap is everflowing.

nigerian presidents are one of the onlythat address the US wearing something other then a suit. a suit would be a demotion.

they steal money from things that will always flow. Oil.


These ppl don't have this money because they want to be rich. Fuck rich, rich is for suit niggas. They have this money because they play a complexed extremely dangerous war game against titans for the sole purpose of KEEPING THE MONEY FLOWING. They're fighting against other niggas with infinite money who are fighting them for the soul right to control infinite money and thus survive in the game and keep playing.


Politics.


Though oil will flow abusively for millenia to come (don't listen to the bullshit they tell you about oil running out and decreased supplies, they have so much of that shit flowing from the ground that they have to burn most of it and you can see the burning from space producing more light then most countries) Nigeria is childs play. You're talking about the United fucking State B. TRILLIONS. with a T. If you Spend 1 million a year from the birth of christ till today you will only reach half of 1 trillion.





US politicians and military men thus have to constantly steal and make up money in order to control America because those that control america control infinite money. The type of money that doesn't matter in what's sitting in the bank, but what's coming and how long the tap will keep flowing.




These people have played this game so masterfully since the revolution that we've reached a stage where people are literally making up money in order to win the right to keep making up money because if they lose the right to keep making up money all the money they've made up will cease to exist.


what got us to this stage in all reality.

Elections.
Winning Elections, and military promotions.




There's no flouride, there's no microchip in your baby and bridgeport conneticut isn't really sparta.

TSA
04-12-2011, 02:50 AM
on a lesser level, peep the fly shit:

I work for the state government.
We use a trailer for break room. (smh)
they demolished it cause too many racoons crawled into the woodwork and died and it's caving it.


we're now getting a 400,000 dollar break room being built in it's place.
i just saw them bring in what is essentially a bigger trailer...no where near 100,000 in real worth.


take that scenario and spread that across the whole country for 100s of years and you'll almost understand how corrupt the government is.

not corrupt because these ppl want to be greedy and rich, corrupt because they're in a game against ppl with infinite money from their own corruption.

TSA
04-12-2011, 03:02 AM
LAST ONE!

anyways, you can say this system is 'bad' but in order to keep you the people from raising against it you have been made a part of it.

Finance, credit, the stock market, loans, mortgages, free education, baller ass countries, elections nigga, social security and so forth.

You have benefited just as much as 'they' have, only in respect to your dim limited ambition, scope of understanding and capability. You are a global plastic vageen extortionist glutton hoe just like anyone else for the simple fact that you exist in a false wealth, you relish in you and you wouldn't give it up for anything

this system (which is far more complexed then i understand) has benefitted you the average person tremendously and the worst part about it is if you do anything 'against it' or 'end' it you will enter a hellhole you're too doughy and pussy to fathom that pain of.

you would live like the rest of the world. the rest of the world that is using REAL money, and you don't want to do that, because monopoly money is the shit and real money runs out.


what do i mean by REAL money? in the 3rd world EVERYTHING people own has been bought with REAL money. They buy houses cash, buy cars cash, items, cash. employees are paid with REAL money the company has made and not made up. Even the government is being corrupt with REAL money and all aspects of those countries are restricted by the confines and realities of using real money.

the average westerner thus has agbada money and doesn't want to end the system that keeps it flowing. not just the government but YOU. yeah, YOU pusseh. YOU don't want that baller shit end, it's too baller.

This is what Gucci thinks of you glutton illusiocytes (and yeah i made that word up, you're sitting here making up money and you get mad when black ppl make up words? alright cool.)
fmRPlaa65u8

SKAMPOE
04-12-2011, 03:19 AM
Lollol PLO styyleHere the real shit.


not only do the politicians sign imaginary checks, most of the the money is totally and completely pocketed in order for individuals to stay competitive in the power struggle of democracy politics and geopolitics more importantly.



In Nigeria there's two levels of money. suit money, and agbada money (agbada=flowing robe)

niggas with suit money have money but i can run out. millions of dollars, but it's finite, it's real, their wealth is about maintaining.

niggas with agbada money have infinite money. their concern therefore isn't having money, it's keeping money coming because the cup can never empty if the tap is everflowing.

nigerian presidents are one of the onlythat address the US wearing something other then a suit. a suit would be a demotion.

they steal money from things that will always flow. Oil.


These ppl don't have this money because they want to be rich. Fuck rich, rich is for suit niggas. They have this money because they play a complexed extremely dangerous war game against titans for the sole purpose of KEEPING THE MONEY FLOWING. They're fighting against other niggas with infinite money who are fighting them for the soul right to control infinite money and thus survive in the game and keep playing.


Politics.


Though oil will flow abusively for millenia to come (don't listen to the bullshit they tell you about oil running out and decreased supplies, they have so much of that shit flowing from the ground that they have to burn most of it and you can see the burning from space producing more light then most countries) Nigeria is childs play. You're talking about the United fucking State B. TRILLIONS. with a T. If you Spend 1 million a year from the birth of christ till today you will only reach half of 1 trillion.





US politicians and military men thus have to constantly steal and make up money in order to control America because those that control america control infinite money. The type of money that doesn't matter in what's sitting in the bank, but what's coming and how long the tap will keep flowing.




These people have played this game so masterfully since the revolution that we've reached a stage where people are literally making up money in order to win the right to keep making up money because if they lose the right to keep making up money all the money they've made up will cease to exist.


what got us to this stage in all reality.

Elections.
Winning Elections, and military promotions.




There's no flouride, there's no microchip in your baby and bridgeport conneticut isn't really sparta.

TSA
04-12-2011, 03:32 AM
the global elite doesn't give a flying fuck about controlling you nigga. you're a powerless faggot that's happy to have 1000 in spare spending money.

you're content being a part of this system of bottomless greed and gluttony cause you're a fucking animal like anyone else, fuck all that god shit nigga.

is there a cooridnated multi-generational plot to control you? no, why the fuck would anyone spend money to control a faggot like you. Look at you. You really think a nigga would do all THIS for YOU. are YOU that important? you're just a pussy and like wutang, wtf are you gonna do?! no seriously, you think a niggas going to blow his money on your worthless seed let alone the microchips needed to 'control' it?

your just an ant. How much money have you as a human being spent trying to control ants? have you ever formed a conspiracy to 'control' ants? no. they're fucking irrelevant. When they're fucking up your comfort you kill them sure, but who gives a fuck? it's a god damn Ant.

will those Ant's totally ruin your comfort and abusive amounts of overwhelming power? no. why? cause the son of a bitch eats your crumbs, enjoys your temperate year round home, and is safe from predators takes to what you've built without consideration of it's comfort. The ant is a benefactor to the human being.


is the human being human to control the ant? no, the ant doesn't matter, it did it cause it's human. that's what humans do.

there's no 'they'. these people act as individuals fundamentally and cohorts when there's individual gain only. there's no coordinated effort to make things the way they are, it's just a system that in all honesty strives to achieve utopia. achieve utopia.

now think of how insane that is. faggot.

X7CPrTvQdVI

Compulsion
04-12-2011, 04:08 AM
Where have you been? This isn't anything new.

SL33
04-12-2011, 04:13 AM
the worst is if the US admits 14 trillion dollars have literally been made up out of thin air (if not more) and there's no way in hell expecially with the cost of government it will EVER be paid off, it will create a 14 trillion dollar hole in a 54 trillion dollar economy or (rough estimate) a 20%+ hole in the world economy.

almost everything will drop instantly by 20% minimum, most will just cease to exist, it will be several thousand times more sever then the great depression for the west. .





Also. US Military Spending is the only thing keeping the world alive right now.

the US government is the ONLY entity with an obligation to buy american, the military more so then anything, if it stops, it'll be a 700Billion+ hole in the US economy of REAL money.

The US therefore doesn't only need to be in a state of constant build-up, but more importantly a state of constant war/tension/conflict to justify the spending.






repped

Dokuro
04-12-2011, 04:51 AM
thats why it so outrages we cannot pay it off even if we took all the nations worth
once again in the KTL

Dokuro
04-12-2011, 04:54 AM
http://wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103280

sadly i haven't been able to update it sorry

TSA
04-12-2011, 12:55 PM
your mistake was posting something that involves numbers in KTL.

anyways, if you wanna get a glimpse of how cartoonish this is and the fact that our wealth and development is a mirage that's bound to fade,

the world is worth 54 trillion
the combine total of all debt owed by americans is worth 56 trillion

every american should be, just to stop the epic increasing, paying 11,000 dollars in interest just to keep interest from accumulating.
EVERY american, every year.
but we don't.

TSA
04-12-2011, 12:57 PM
the crash coming happened in france ages ago, it cause the collapse of a republic, the losing of a war to haiti, and the selling of almost all assets in the western hemisphere at a sever loss (hence the louisiana purchase)

Uncle Steezo
04-12-2011, 01:19 PM
now ask yourself who is making these global financal decisions.
then ask yourself how and from whom did they get the authority to make these descisions.
then ask yourself what are they doing with the pocketed money.
finally ask yourself if the matrix is real.

TSA
04-12-2011, 01:57 PM
they get the money from a multitude of real sources that are also available to the average citizen with good credit.

nobody is 'making' these decisions. It's a political system that has taken a life of it's own due to the dimensions a power player must adherre to in the world of geopolitics, finance, and democratic party politics. so in reality several people are making several costly seldom related decisions and this is the cumulative result

and they're using the 'pocketed money' to remain competitive in the worlds of finance, geopolitics democratic politics and finance. nobody wants to just 'keep' more money then they can ever spend out of 'greed' the real rich, agbada money niggas, aren't concerned with having money, they're only concerned with keeping the flow infinite.


and the matrix was a horrible and overrated movie.

Olive Oil Goombah
04-12-2011, 04:01 PM
the global elite doesn't give a flying fuck about controlling you nigga. you're a powerless faggot that's happy to have 1000 in spare spending money.

you're content being a part of this system of bottomless greed and gluttony cause you're a fucking animal like anyone else, fuck all that god shit nigga.

is there a cooridnated multi-generational plot to control you? no, why the fuck would anyone spend money to control a faggot like you. Look at you. You really think a nigga would do all THIS for YOU. are YOU that important? you're just a pussy and like wutang, wtf are you gonna do?! no seriously, you think a niggas going to blow his money on your worthless seed let alone the microchips needed to 'control' it?

your just an ant. How much money have you as a human being spent trying to control ants? have you ever formed a conspiracy to 'control' ants? no. they're fucking irrelevant. When they're fucking up your comfort you kill them sure, but who gives a fuck? it's a god damn Ant.

will those Ant's totally ruin your comfort and abusive amounts of overwhelming power? no. why? cause the son of a bitch eats your crumbs, enjoys your temperate year round home, and is safe from predators takes to what you've built without consideration of it's comfort. The ant is a benefactor to the human being.


is the human being human to control the ant? no, the ant doesn't matter, it did it cause it's human. that's what humans do.

there's no 'they'. these people act as individuals fundamentally and cohorts when there's individual gain only. there's no coordinated effort to make things the way they are, it's just a system that in all honesty strives to achieve utopia. achieve utopia.

now think of how insane that is. faggot.

X7CPrTvQdVI



LMFAO.


funny yet truthful and highly perceptive.

Robert
04-12-2011, 09:02 PM
now ask yourself who is making these global financal decisions.

They are.

LoTec
04-12-2011, 10:02 PM
They are.

just noticed today that this fool neg repped me for spelling mistakes, and said "keep you spelling in check" lmfao I gotta go emo con with it :lmao::lmao::lmao:

just that Id share that, excuse the interuption

Robert
04-12-2011, 10:21 PM
I thought it was pretty funny also.

Visionz
04-12-2011, 10:36 PM
Who do you think we owe the money to ?

whitey
04-12-2011, 11:38 PM
the banking system is all about "expanding money". the act of stretching money and being able to be using more of it than there actually is. it is the strategic flaw of the banking system in a capitalist system imo.

money is expanded by loans. everyone and everything gets loans. but theres not actual money behind all those loans. its based on the money in banks, constantly being loaned out, and interest being paid on those loans. renting money in effect. and hence the money is "expanded".


but like it has been pointing out, that money does not really exist. it is just one big house of cards. if run by competent individuals it is a workable system. the problem is human greed that causes people to do stupid things and take wild risks with other peoples money, eventually bringing the system to the brink of collapse, like it was a couple years ago.

but who knows if the system will be able to be saved every time without collapsing. just hope i don't live to see the day of that.

TSA
04-12-2011, 11:51 PM
Who do you think we owe the money to ?
dude, you didn't read anything i said clearly.

the vast majority of the money doesn't exist. The government is buying shit and saying just give it to me and i'll pay you later don't worry. Then the ppl they buy those things from use that credit and buy shit and say, don't worry the US government is supposed to be paying a million real soon, then that person buys some shit from someone else and says 'don't worry the US government will be paying me real soon' on and on and on creating a billion dollars worth of trade with no real live money to back it up.


the same way people buy shit with their credit card.

only sometimes a government agent will buy a 1000 dollar seat for a government office and write a 200,000 check to the person so that that person writing the check and that person selling the seat will pocket the extra money and put it on the books as a 200,000 dollar seat

this is how you got thousand dollar nails and hammers in the Iraq war.


There's no 'they' it's not coordinated, people with sense are just manipulating the system that YOU TOO are a part of and manipulate, only they're doing it better then you and the end result is a cartoonish debt that will in all honest destroy global finance because ppl and countries have been buy stuff with money that doesn't exist for so long that 56 trillion dollars of the worlds money literally doesn't exist. All that is required is the right domino, from a major economy going bankrupt, a major bank going bankrupt or an even bigger credit freeze/crunch to destroy everything.





so 'we' owe the money to millions of different entities, whether they be individuals, companies, banks and different countries.

TSA
04-12-2011, 11:53 PM
the banking system is all about "expanding money". the act of stretching money and being able to be using more of it than there actually is. it is the strategic flaw of the banking system in a capitalist system imo.

money is expanded by loans. everyone and everything gets loans. but theres not actual money behind all those loans. its based on the money in banks, constantly being loaned out, and interest being paid on those loans. renting money in effect. and hence the money is "expanded".


but like it has been pointing out, that money does not really exist. it is just one big house of cards. if run by competent individuals it is a workable system. the problem is human greed that causes people to do stupid things and take wild risks with other peoples money, eventually bringing the system to the brink of collapse, like it was a couple years ago.

but who knows if the system will be able to be saved every time without collapsing. just hope i don't live to see the day of that.
^real spit.
corruption, greed, speculation, and human error have birth to a fucking monster. It's just recently that i started really giving it serious thought because it's fucking serious as hell.

Visionz
04-13-2011, 12:14 AM
I admit that I skimmed lol but what I'm saying in asking is that most of that money is owed to the same people that print the money. The Federal Reserve increases wealth by increasing debt. If you take away one, you take away the other. It's a bullshit system if there ever was one which is to say I agree with what you're outside of the Matrix being a shitty movie. The first one was brilliant imo

TSA
04-13-2011, 12:24 AM
i mean, outside of all the special effect it was just a bunch of paper thin characters, paper thin villians, and a plot that fails to make you care.

it was good for the initial shock and awe of the effects and concept i suppose but that doesn't really get me when it comes to movies.

except inception, that shit was a trip.

Ghost In The 'Lac
04-13-2011, 12:28 AM
What is money?

http://truth11.com/2009/10/03/what-is-money/

RzaRectum
04-13-2011, 12:46 AM
The first [Matrix]one was brilliant imo
Agreed. The concept of taking control of your mind and breaking free from a system that prevents conscious thought / the utilization of your personal power can never be too understated.

Uncle Steezo
04-13-2011, 02:56 AM
the matrix 1 was sick. i'm trying to find the book that the wachowski bros bit off of.

how does the IMF, fed reserve and worldbanc fit into all this?
who are their members?
do they have oversight?
do they have the final word on global finance?

food for thought
04-13-2011, 03:01 AM
I think so.

alright fag. i'll let you in on the real conspiracy, faggot.




14 trillion dollar debt?
really?


do you REALLY believe this type of money EVER existed?

according to the world bank in 2009 the world was worth
$58.14 Trillion

China$7,800,000,000,000
Japan$4,487,000,000,000
Germany$3,319,000,000,000
India$2,863,000,000,000
UK$2,278,999,982,080
Russia$2,224,999,890,944

22.7 trillion <- total worth.






but the amount we owe, being more then we're actually worth, means america will NEVER be able to EVER pay off it's debt.



http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1087/raeface.png

Visionz
04-13-2011, 03:17 AM
Being aware that its all pretty much bullshit yet at the same time I'm trying to get ahold of more money. I don't see it as this never-ending quest to make more but as a means to obtain freedom. I want to spend time how I see fit and carry on with my life in whatever way I please. It's not to say there's not work to do but I need to doing my work vs someone else's.

Buy land, get greenhouses and a ranch and be as self-sufficient as possible, do venture capital on a local level and try to help other austinites do the same thing. In a fucked up world i think that what I'm meant to do and that's both the goal and the plan for the foreseeable future.

RzaRectum
04-13-2011, 10:53 AM
the matrix 1 was sick. i'm trying to find the book that the wachowski bros bit off of.

how does the IMF, fed reserve and worldbanc fit into all this?
who are their members?
do they have oversight? NO. They are operating without accountability.
do they have the final word on global finance? They will, unless (we) the people do something about it.

Good post.