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EAGLE EYE
05-28-2011, 02:09 AM
Enough is enough.

I'm demoting Fatal's bitch asS from Ovaltine to Alka-Seltzer status

Rest in Fizz Faggot.

May we vibe and triple pump your head stone while the KTL breakfast crew watches in awe.

CEITEDMOFO
05-28-2011, 02:52 AM
SOUNDs LIKE THERE BREAKING UP THIS TIME FOR REAL
DS7iyLVb0Us

check two
05-28-2011, 02:57 AM
http://www.maxallancollins.com/news/20100413-4.jpg

EAGLE EYE
05-28-2011, 03:14 AM
SOUNDs LIKE THERE BREAKING UP THIS TIME FOR REAL
DS7iyLVb0Us

Do me a faVor for a Favor cholombian sugar cane tits

Post embedable videos my ipad2 can play

Or nerd rapture is inevitable

beautifulrock
05-28-2011, 03:17 AM
Somewhere a soawf mixed race emo, is shitting himself laughing at Robbeh's posts.

EAGLE EYE
05-28-2011, 03:32 AM
Pandemic has impaired the morals of Bobby Hill for the last time


The stakes are high, the dough has gotten fresher than usual

Dr. Simon Hurt
05-28-2011, 06:42 AM
http://avrilchan.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/big-fat-failure-little-2.gif

http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/obama_tired.jpg

Teh KillaBee
05-28-2011, 10:58 PM
somebody's wee feelings have been hurt, IMO

Uncle Steezo
05-29-2011, 12:11 AM
http://www.maxallancollins.com/news/20100413-4.jpg

Chicago... McCormick Center.

Dokuro
05-29-2011, 12:32 AM
humor its missing on the corp

EAGLE EYE
05-29-2011, 12:57 AM
humor its missing on the corp


SO AREN'T LeGIT ACCOUNTS RETARD.

Dokuro
05-29-2011, 01:01 AM
no robbie you are for making this thread in an attempt to humor this whole thread is a fail


Ovaltine to Alka-Seltzer
he went form tasting like jizz and evergreen to serving a purpose
and you call that a demotion

EAGLE EYE
05-29-2011, 01:09 AM
HOW DO u Know he tasted like JIZZ? ROFiLL

ratty mayonnaise
05-29-2011, 05:24 AM
no robbie you are for making this thread in an attempt to humor this whole thread is a fail


Ovaltine to Alka-Seltzer
he went form tasting like jizz and evergreen to serving a purpose
and you call that a demotion

LOL
Ovaltine is pretty rancid,, almost as wank as horlicks and other powdered milk shit drinks,. its mostly aspartimin and MSG
eww
i thought of a next one.. bournvita
i live about 20 mins away from the cadburys musuem/factory
i think you;d like the place louis.

Dokuro
05-29-2011, 02:26 PM
cadburys musuem

is that the place with all those cream eggs
http://www.manictroutblog.com/Images/Blog/CadburyEgg.jpg
i fuckin love those

TSA
05-29-2011, 02:28 PM
dude ovaltine is the shit.
are you guys adding lots of sugar? its essential really.

Uncle Steezo
05-29-2011, 02:36 PM
yall never had quik?
p26ORXYBFxw


but nothin beats a hershy choc syrup choc milk.

http://mojosavings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/hershey_chocolate-syrup.jpg

Dokuro
05-29-2011, 02:37 PM
no thank you i get my chocolate milk all natural strait from the chocolate cow
the way god intended


you see its funny because god didn't make the cow we did

Uncle Steezo
05-29-2011, 06:26 PM
if by chocolate cow you mean your mom... then yeah me too.

Dokuro
05-29-2011, 07:30 PM
hahaahahhahahahhh

a momma joke that was original no it was because know one does them any more

but you want get one from me because i happen to like your mom shes a great woman

check two
05-29-2011, 07:31 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/WalterRothschildWithZebras.jpg

Uncle Steezo
05-29-2011, 08:20 PM
http://webjunk.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/zebra_riding_thumb.jpg

Dokuro
05-29-2011, 08:40 PM
hmmm

option
A i can just take a dump on all your zebras
http://multifamilyinvestor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lion-eating-zebra-300x198.jpg
or
B i can continue to post more zebras
http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/l/h/lhy423hpyz9j24hl.jpg

diggy
05-29-2011, 09:31 PM
LOL
Ovaltine is pretty rancid,, almost as wank as horlicks and other powdered milk shit drinks,. its mostly aspartimin and MSG

I actually looked at the label and your statements remain unconfirmed. Where are you getting your (mis)information from?

oDoUoSoKo
05-29-2011, 11:06 PM
I actually looked at the label and your statements remain unconfirmed. Where are you getting your (mis)information from?

Fatal, probably.

ratty mayonnaise
05-30-2011, 06:22 AM
lol louis :) if you ever visit the uk, we'll go round the cadbury world musuem :)
they have chocolate fountians and everything..

Peace FMJ,.

im glad you checked the label.. aspartame and msg are known as many things ( they all literally have the same effect,,) lol and really.. how can they not be in powdered milk drinks.. where would the flavour come from?

i liked your challange :) makes me wanna write up a long thread.. lol
im kinda suprised you doubted my information.. but its cool :)

you are right,. theirs no direct labeling of msg or aspartame in drinking chocolate, or horlicks or ovaltine..

id just got used to the thought of every chocolate bar and snack packet, processed meal,. containing lots of msg and aspartame on :S ,. as im to checking everything i purchase.

i still think the companys use those chemicals on these products,. they keep changing the name for them chemicals aswell..



oh well.. this is where i get some of my info from, ill post up the links..

peace

Names of ingredients that contain processed free glutamic acid (MSG)1
(Last updated February, 2011)
PRINT pdf (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources_printable.pdf)



Everyone knows that some people get reactions after eating the food ingredient monosodium glutamate --reactions that include migraine headaches, upset stomach, fuzzy thinking, diarrhea, heart irregularities, asthma, and/or mood swings. What many don’t know, is that more than 40 different ingredients contain the chemical in monosodium glutamate (processed free glutamic acid) that causes these reactions. The following list of ingredients that contain processed free glutamic acid has been compiled over the last 20 years from consumers’ reports of adverse reactions and information provided by manufacturers and food technologists.


Names of ingredients that always contain processed free glutamic acid:

Glutamic acid (E 620)2, Glutamate (E 620)
Monosodium glutamate (E 621)
Monopotassium glutamate (E 622)
Calcium glutamate (E 623)
Monoammonium glutamate (E 624)
Magnesium glutamate (E 625)
Natrium glutamate
Yeast extract
Anything “hydrolyzed”
Any “hydrolyzed protein”
Calcium caseinate, Sodium caseinate
Yeast food, Yeast nutrient
Autolyzed yeast
Gelatin
Textured protein
Soy protein, soy protein concentrate
Soy protein isolate
Whey protein, whey protein concentrate
Whey protein isolate
Anything “…protein”
Vetsin
Ajinomoto


Names of ingredients that often contain or produce processed free glutamic acid:

Carrageenan (E 407)
Bouillon and broth
Stock
Any “flavors” or “flavoring”
Maltodextrin
Citric acid, Citrate (E 330)
Anything “ultra-pasteurized”
Barley malt
Pectin (E 440)
Protease
Anything “enzyme modified”
Anything containing “enzymes”
Malt extract
Soy sauce
Soy sauce extract
Anything “protein fortified”
Anything “fermented”
Seasonings

(1) Glutamic acid found in unadulterated protein does not cause adverse reactions. To cause adverse reactions, the glutamic acid must have been processed/manufactured or come from protein that has been fermented.
The following are ingredients suspected of containing or creating sufficient processed free glutamic acid to serve as MSG-reaction triggers in HIGHLY SENSITIVE people:

Corn starch
Corn syrup
Modified food starch
Lipolyzed butter fat
Dextrose
Rice syrup
Brown rice syrup
Milk powder
Reduced fat milk (skim; 1%; 2%)
most things low fat or no fat
anything Enriched
anything Vitamin enriched




(2) E numbers are use in Europe in place of food additive names.



The following work synergistically with MSG to enhance flavor. If they are present for flavoring, so is MSG.
Disodium 5’-guanylate (E 627) Disodium 5’-inosinate (E-631) Disodium 5'-ribonucleotides (E 635)



Reminders

Low fat and no fat milk products often contain milk solids that contain MSG and many dairy products contain carrageenan, guar gum, and/or locust bean gum. Low fat and no fat versions of ice cream and cheese may not be as obvious as yogurt, milk, cream, cream cheese, cottage cheese, etc., but they are not exceptions.

Protein powders contain glutamic acid, which, invariably, will be processed free glutamic acid (MSG). Individual amino acids are not always listed on labels of protein powders.

At present there is an FDA requirement to include the protein source when listing hydrolyzed protein products on labels of processed foods. Examples are hydrolyzed soy protein, hydrolyzed wheat protein, hydrolyzed pea protein, hydrolyzed whey protein, hydrolyzed, corn protein. If a tomato, for example, were whole, it would be identified as a tomato. Calling an ingredient tomato protein indicates that the tomato has been hydrolyzed, at least in part, and that processed free glutamic acid (MSG) is present.

Disodium guanylate and disodium inosinate are relatively expensive food additives that work synergistically with inexpensive MSG. Their use suggests that the product has MSG in it. They would probably not be used as food additives if there were no MSG present.

MSG reactions have been reported from soaps, shampoos, hair conditioners, and cosmetics, where MSG is hidden in ingredients with names that include the words "hydrolyzed," "amino acids," and/or "protein." Most sun block creams and insect repellents also contain MSG.

Drinks, candy, and chewing gum are potential sources of hidden MSG and/or aspartame, neotame. and AminoSweet (the new name for aspartame). Aspartic acid, found in neotame, aspartame (NutraSweet), and AminoSweet, ordinarily causes MSG type reactions in MSG sensitive people. (It would appear that calling aspartame "AminoSweet" is industry's method of choice for hiding aspartame.) We have not seen Neotame used widely in the United States.

Aspartame will be found in some medications, including children's medications. For questions about the ingredients in pharmaceuticals, check with your pharmacist and/or read the product inserts for the names of “other” or “inert” ingredients.

Binders and fillers for medications, nutrients, and supplements, both prescription and non-prescription, enteral feeding materials, and some fluids administered intravenously in hospitals, may contain MSG.

According to the manufacturer, Varivax–Merck chicken pox vaccine (Varicella Virus Live), contains L-monosodium glutamate and hydrolyzed gelatin, both of which contain processed free glutamic acid (MSG) which causes brain lesions in young laboratory animals, and causes endocrine disturbances like OBESITY and REPRODUCTIVE disorders later in life. It would appear that most, if not all, live virus vaccines contain some ingredient(s) that contains MSG.

Reactions to MSG are dose related, i.e., some people react to even very small amounts. MSG-induced reactions may occur immediately after ingestion or after as much as 48 hours. The time lapse between ingestion and reaction is typically the same each time for a particular individual who ingests an amount of MSG that exceeds his or her individual tolerance level.

Remember: By food industry definition, all MSG is "naturally occurring." "Natural" doesn't mean "safe." "Natural" only means that the ingredient started out in nature, like arsenic and hydrochloric acid.


http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html


FOLLOWING IS YOUR TABLE (a real table) OF CONTENTS
(Click on the links. The underlines are the links.)
The truth, and nothing but the truth, about processed free glutamic acid (we call it MSG)

SECTION
FACT
DETAILS
MORE DETAILS


ARE YOU AT RISK from exposure to Monosodium Glutamate and the other ingredients that contain MSG?
















The risks associated with ingestion of (or even contact with) monosodium glutamate and other ingredients that contain MSG are simple and straightforward:
Brain damage
Endocrine disorders (obesity and reproductive disorders)
Behavior disorders
Adverse reactions
Neurodegenerative disease.

Obesity (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Obesity_Data.html).....Retinal degeneration (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/RetinalDegeneration_Data.html).....Migraine (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Migraine.html)…Seizures headache.....Cancer (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Cancer.html).....Heart irregularities.....Asthma.....Chewing gum.....Aspartame





What is monosodium glutamate (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/MonosodiumGlutamate_DefinedForTheWeb.htm)?
What is MSG (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WhatIsMSG.html)?
Where is MSG hidden (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/II.WhereIsMSG.html)?
Ingredient names used to hide MSG in food (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html)
Names of products (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/products.htm) that should be checked out for MSG
E-numbers (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Enumbers.html) used for MSG-containing ingredients
There are pesticides and fertilizers (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/MSG%20is%20being%20sprayed%20on%20produce.html) that contain MSG
Understanding toxic MSG (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/I.AreYouSensitive.html) --
Recognizing and/or diagnosing MSG adverse reactions (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Recog.html) –
How much MSG does it take to produce an observable adverse reaction (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/HowMuchMSG.htm)?
In 2010, the FDA recalled 20 million pounds of hydrolyzed vegetable protein (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WashingtonPost_FDA%20says%20contaminated%20with%20 salmonella.htm) contaminated with salmonella -- i.e., 20 million pounds of product that contains hidden MSG. That should give you some idea of the amount of MSG there is out there in ingredients other than monosodium glutamate. Here's the story behind the recall (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WashingtonPost_FDA%20says%20contaminated%20with%20 salmonella.htm). Here's the FDA's list of recalled products. (http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/HVPCP/)

DATA tell us that use of monosodium glutamate and other ingredients that contain MSG places consumers at risk














Evidence that monosodium glutamate causes brain damage which can lead to retinal degeneration, endocrine disruption (e.g. reproductive disorders and gross obesity), behavior disorders, learning disabilities, and more. Look at the data (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Proof_BrainLesions_CNS.html).

Evidence that monosodium glutamate and other ingredients that contain MSG cause reactions like irritable bowel, heart irregularities, asthma, and migraine headache.
Look at the data (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Proof_AdverseReactions_AR.html).

Evidence from epidemiological studies that suggests that as many as 50% of Americans are sensitive to monosodium glutamate and other ingredients that contain MSG. Look at the data. (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Proof_EpidemiologicStudies_ES.html)

Evidence that industry-sponsored studies used to substantiate the safety of monosodium glutamate are so badly flawed that they are worthless. See for yourself (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Proof_Controversy_C.html).

Evidence that the young are at the greatest risk from ingestion of MSG.
Look at the data (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Proof_TheYoung_TY.html).












REPORTS of Adverse Reactions

In addition to research documenting adverse reactions to MSG, there is evidence from consumers who report that their adverse reactions ameliorate or disappear when they clean MSG out of their diets. Read their letters (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/letters.html).

SURVIVING MSG SENSITIVITY
What’s an MSG-sensitive person to do? (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/NAET.html)
Letters from people who have been helped by this Web site. (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/letters.html)
Ideas for those having trouble avoiding MSG. (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Some-ideas-for-those-who-are-having-trouble-avoiding-MSG.html)
Meet “A dragonfly in the kitchen (http://dragonflyinthekitchen.blogspot.com/)”….. working out recipes especially for those stricken with sensitivities to MSG. Her determination and her good work should serve as a model for all of us.
To get the truth from manufacturers about the MSG in their products, you have to understand the glutamate industry’s deceptive tactics. (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/understanding-manufacturer's-deceptive-tactics.html)
Other Web sites with information about MSG and aspartame (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WebSites.html)

INDIVIDUAL AMINO ACIDS are always MANUFACTURED
How is MSG manufactured (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/HowIsItManufactured.html)?
How do the glutamic acid found in protein and/or freed from protein during digestion and the manufactured neurotoxic glutamic acid found in MSG differ (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/III.What%20is%20MSG.html)?
Manufactured neurotoxic amino acids cause brain damage and neuroendocrine disorders (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/HowDoWeKnowMSGcauses.html). Glutamic acid from unadulterated protein does not.
MSG (it’s manufactured) causes adverse reactions like asthma, migraine headaches, heart irregularities, and seizures (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/UnwantedAdverseReactions.html). Glutamic acid from unadulterated protein does not.


It is IMPORTANT TO INDUSTRY (and their friends at the FDA) TO HIDE the MSG in and ON your food, supplements, pharmaceuticals, and cosmetics
Why is hiding MSG so important (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/VI.WhyIsn'tMSGlabeled.html)?

Meet the people (we sometimes call them “the glutes”) who get the job done so effectively (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WhoRuns.htm)

This is how the "MSG is safe" game is played (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/HowTheGameIsPlayed.htm)

This will give you some insight into the role played by the US government in keeping MSG in food, drugs, dietary supplements, children's' medications, cosmetics, fertilizers, fungicides, plant growth enhancers -- and more -- hidden (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Pol.html)

Here's how they hide MSG (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Here'sHowTheyHideMSG.html)
The glutamate industry has:
-- Secrets: Things the "glutes" don't want you to know (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/facts.htm)

-- A set of basic lies (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/lies.html)

-- Web pages (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/GlutamateIndustryOrganizations.htm) on which they disseminate their propaganda

--Tricks to get free advertising dressed up as news (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/GlutesNews.html).

Read all about the "glutes" standard operating procedure (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/l-manuscript.html) -- published in Accountability in Research, a peer reviewed journal

THE GLUTAMATE INDUSTRY AT ITS FINEST

Researchers from Scripps Clinic, La Jolla California -- which has a history of doing research funded by the MSG industry (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/scripps-1.html) -- have published a review (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19389112?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum) pointing to the safety of monosodium glutamate. They looked at four (4) conditions you won't find listed in a 1997 FDA report of complaints of adverse reactions to MSG, and concluded that there weren't many reports of adverse reactions to MSG. They also cited three (3) double blind studies in which researchers found adverse reactions to monosodium glutamate, but said that didn't show that people were sensitive to monosodium glutamate because people also reacted to placebos – but they failed to mention that the placebos were laced with aspartame (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Ebert.AndersonLetter.pdf). And that, good readers, is what glutamate industry propaganda about the safety of MSG is built on.
THE FDA
Industry’s FDA (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/GlutesFDA.html)
The FDA says it's illegal to claim no MSG in a product if it contains any free glutamic acid (1) (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/FDA-12-5-91-letter.html)(2) (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/FDA-3-20-02-letter.html), but refuses to enforce the Federal Food Drug and Cosmetic Act.
If MSG wasn’t harmful, it wouldn’t be hidden. If the FDA was doing its job, MSG wouldn’t be hidden either.
HISTORY

History of invention and use of monosodium glutamate and MSG--as used in processed food and as used on crops as they grow (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/IVhistoryOfUse.html)

Hydrolyzed proteins (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Hydrolyzed%20Vegetable%20Proteins_ForTheWeb_8-10-10.pdf)

Regulatory history (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/V.RegulatoryHistory.html)
Details of California’s approval of monosodium glutamate for use in fertilizer and pesticide products (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/cdpr-TimeLine.html)– including wine grapes
THE TRUTH IN LABELING CAMPAIGN
The Truth in Labeling Campaign (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/AboutUs_TheOrganization.htm)

Our back room: material collected or written (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/BackRoom_Material.htm) by the Truth in Labeling Campaign
We thank all of you who share your insights and concerns with all of us. (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/involved.html)
Contact us (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/CONTACT%20US.htm)
CONSUMER ADVOCACY
Exposing MSG: Effecting change one step at a time (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/involved_new.html)
Handing out copies of the TLC brochure to family and friends. (Print two sided, fold, make lots of copies, and hand them out.) (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/brochure_ad.pdf)
Call for labeling (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/action.html) -- It’s time that the FDA require that all MSG be identified on the labels of products that contain it
Reducing the cost of health care (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/ReducingTheCostOfHealthCare.html).....
We advocate the right of consumers to know what is in their food.
FUN THINGS TO DO
Send us labels of mislabeled food you would like exposed, and tell us where you saw it for sale. (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/FindTheMSG.html)
Be an advocate for truth in labeling.
Visit these web pages (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WebSites.html).




http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/07/12/how-to-find-hidden-msg-on-food-labels.aspx


http://www.msgexposed.com/hidden-sources-of-msg-monosodium-glutamate-on-food-ingredient-labels/


The following is a list of ingredient names that you may find on your food labels that contain enough MSG to serve as common MSG-Reaction triggers, not to mention the free glutamate (L-Glutamate) in MSG stimulates brain cells to death. This list should be printed out and brought along with you to the gr0cery store. You will be amazed at how many food labels you will find these hidden sources of MSG lurking on. This is the same list (with a few additions) that’s included in Dr. Russell Blaylock’s book Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills. Please study and pass this crucial list on to your friends and family.
These ALWAYS contain MSG:
Glutamate
Glutamic Acid
Monosodium Glutamate
Monopotassium Glutamate
Yeast Extract
Yeast Food
Yeast Nutrient
Autolyzed Yeast
Autolyzed Yeast Extract
Torula Yeast
Autolyzed Soy Protein (any protein that is autolyzed)
Hydrolyzed Protein (any protein that is hydrolyzed)
Hydrolyzed Whey Protein
Hydrolyzed Pea Protein
Hydrolyzed Corn Protein
Hydrolyzed Corn Gluten
Calcium Caseinate
Sodium Caseinate
Textured Protein
Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP)
Natrium Glutamate (natrium is Latin/German for sodium)
Gelatin
These OFTEN contain MSG or create MSG during processing:
Carageenan
Malt Extract
Malt Flavoring
Barley Malt
Maltodextrin
Citric Acid1
Soy Protein Isolate
Soy Sauce
Soy Sauce Extract
Soy Protein
Soy Protein Concentrate
Bouillon
Broth
Stock
Spices* (may contain between 30% to 60% MSG)
Natural Beef Flavoring
Natural Chicken Flavoring
Natural Pork Flavoring
Ultra-Pasteurized
Whey Protein
Whey Protein Isolate
Whey Protein Concentrate
Protein Fortified Anything
Flavor(s) & Flavoring(s)* (may contain between 30% to 60% MSG)
Natural Flavor(s) & Flavoring(s)* (may contain between 30% to 60% MSG)
Pectin
Protease
Protease Enzymes
Enzymes Anything
Anything Enzyme Modified
Anything Protein Fortified
Anything Fermented
Seasonings (the word “seasonings”)
Fish Sauce2
Fish Sauce Extract
1.) Most of the “citric acid” used today is made from corn rather than from citrus fruits. “Citric acid” is produced by fermentation of crude sugars. When “citric acid” is produced from corn, manufacturers do not take the time or undertake the expense to remove all corn protein. During processing, the remaining protein is hydrolyzed, resulting in some processed free glutamic acid (MSG). “Citric acid” also interacts with any protein in the food to which it is added, freeing up more glutamic acid.
2.) Some fish sauce manufacturers use cheaper techniques to cut the fermentation times very short and these techniques typically utilize MSG. Fish sauce typically takes 1 year to ferment properly and create a good quality sauce. This time is cut extremely short by some manufacturers that choose not to ferment the fish this long and instead add MSG to make up for poorer quality fish sauce.
Note: Soybean milk naturally contains a high content of glutamate. Kombu, miso, and soy sauce all contain MSG.



im sure milk flavoured drinks comes under hydrolyzed and autolyzed protein..



Types of products that contain MSG
In general…
MSG can be used (and hidden) in processed foods, dietary supplements, cosmetics, personal care products, pharmaceuticals, and the food that is given to pets and other animals. It can be used in waxes applied to fresh fruits and vegetables. It can be used as ingredients in pesticides, fungicides, fertilizers, and plant growth enhancers -- remaining in the edible portion of the plant or on the edible portion of the plant when its leaves, fruits, nuts, grains, seeds, and other edible parts are brought to market.
There are over 40 food ingredients besides "monosodium glutamate" that contain processed free glutamic acid (MSG). Each, according to the FDA, must be called by its own, unique, "common or usual name." "Autolyzed yeast," "maltodextrin," “hydrolyzed pea protein”, and "sodium caseinate" are the common or usual names of some ingredients that contain MSG. Unlike the ingredient called "monosodium glutamate," they give the consumer no clue that there is MSG in the ingredient.
In addition to ingredients that contain MSG, some acids and enzymes when combined with a food that contains protein will produce MSG. The words “enzyme” and “protease” (which is a type of enzyme) signal the presence of enzymes capable of causing the production of MSG.
In particular…
- Low fat and no fat milk products often contain milk solids that contain MSG. Other dairy products often contain carrageenan, guar gum, and/or locust bean gum. Low fat and no fat versions of ice cream and cheese may not be as obvious as yogurt, milk, cream, cream cheese, cottage cheese, etc., but they are not exceptions.

- Protein powders and protein drinks contain glutamic acid, and the glutamic acid in the protein powders and drinks will always be processed (manufactured) free glutamic acid (MSG). Individual amino acids are not always listed on labels of protein powders and drinks.

- At present, there is an FDA requirement to give the name of the protein source when listing hydrolyzed protein products on labels of processed foods. Examples are hydrolyzed soy protein, hydrolyzed wheat protein, hydrolyzed pea protein, hydrolyzed whey protein, hydrolyzed, corn protein. If a tomato, for example, were whole, it would be identified as a tomato. Naming an ingredient “tomato protein” indicates that the tomato has been hydrolyzed, at least in part, and that processed free glutamic acid (MSG) is present.

- At present, the FDA requires the disclosure of ingredients labeled “monosodium glutamate” and “hydrolyzed…protein” when, as ingredients, they are used in a “flavor” or “flavoring” (whether or not the “flavor” or “flavoring” is preceded by the words “natural” or “artificial”). However, “flavors” and “flavorings” can contain MSG in ingredients other than “monosodium glutamate” and “hydrolyzed…Protein” without the MSG being disclosed.

- Disodium guanylate and disodium inosinate are relatively expensive food additives that work synergistically with inexpensive processed free glutamic acid (MSG). We believe that they would only be used if there was MSG in a product.

- MSG will be found in some soaps, shampoos, hair conditioners, and cosmetics, where MSG is hidden in ingredients with names that include the words "hydrolyzed," "amino acids," and/or "protein."

- Binders and fillers for prescription and non-prescription medications, nutrients, and supplements, may contain MSG.

- Enteral feeding materials, and some fluids administered intravenously in hospitals, may contain MSG.

- According to the manufacturer, Varivax–Merck chicken pox vaccine (Varicella Virus Live), contains L-monosodium glutamate and hydrolyzed gelatin, both of which contain processed free glutamic acid (MSG). It would appear that most, if not all, live virus vaccines contain some ingredient(s) that contains MSG.

- There are a number of ingredients identified as organic that, organic or not, will contain processed free glutamic acid (MSG). Autolyzed yeast, yeast extract, textured soy protein, and anything hydrolyzed are examples of ingredients that may be made from organic produce, but will never-the-less contain MSG.

- Drinks, candy, and chewing gum are potential sources of hidden MSG. They may also contain aspartame, neotame, of AminoSweet (the new name for aspartame). We mention aspartame, neotame, and AminoSweet here because they, like MSG, contain a neurotoxic amino acid, and can cause the same reactions that MSG causes.

- Aspartame will be found in some medications, including children's medications.

- Anything that breaks down the protein in a product can produce MSG as it breaks down that protein. There have been reports of people reacting to meat wrapped in Cryovac. Cryovac is a registered trademark for a thick plastic in which meat is sealed with the air removed by a vacuum pump. The word Cryovac is also used for the thermoplastic resin wrapping film which can be heat-shrunk onto foods.

- Some waxes used on fruits and vegetables contain MSG.

- Produce may have been produced using fertilizer or pesticide products that contain MSG. Some of these fertilizers may be organic. It is impossible to know from looking at produce whether or not it has been treated with an MSG-containing fertilizer or pesticide product that leaves residue in or on the produce.

- Some non-organic waxes used on some fruits and vegetables contain MSG.

- Additional sources of MSG include infant formula, kosher food, enteral feeding products (tube feeding products), dietary supplements, pharmaceuticals, protein drinks often recommended for seniors, protein bars and protein powders, vaccines, personal care products (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/fake-organic.html), protein powders sold in health food stores, food that is labeled “organic”, wine, food with labels that say "No Added MSG," "No MSG Added," or "No MSG" (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/nomsg.html) , food that is falsely advertised as containing no MSG (http://www.truthinlabeling.org/rapunzel.html), and in food whose manufacturers claim, in response to questions, that their products contain no MSG.

- MSG can be hidden by restaurateurs who claim that the food they serve contains no MSG

About “organic” products…
Where MSG is concerned, "organic" doesn't mean "safe". Ingredients like organic autolyzed yeast and organic natural flavoring have just as much processed (manufactured) free glutamic acid (MSG) in them as those not called "organic." Following are products labeled "organic" that have come to our attention as containing processed free glutamic acid (MSG). There are others.
Product: Vegetable Bouillon
By: Morga
Ingredients include: Yeast extract; Maltodextrin
Product: macaroni & cheese dinner
By: Simply Organic
Ingredients include: Natural flavors; Autolyzed yeast extract
Also listed as organic are fertilizer products that contain hydrolyzed fish protein and hydrolyzed chicken feathers. All hydrolyzed ingredients contain MSG.
About “Health Food” stores…

Health food stores are mine fields for MSG. Protein powders are generally nothing more or less than hydrolyzed proteins –and will contain all three manufactured neurotoxic amino acids: glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and L-cysteine. Food labeled “organic” cannot legitimately contain monosodium glutamate, but can contain other ingredients that contain MSG. Dietary supplements will often contain individual amino acids (because they can be absorbed by the body more quickly than amino acids found in protein which have to be digested before they can be absorbed); and if dietary supplements contain individual amino acids, those amino acids may be neurotoxic glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and/or L-cysteine, all manufactured in food and/or chemical plants.

These are the names of some of the MSG-containing ingredients often found in Health Food stores:

amino acids (They almost invariably contain glutamic acid.)
autolyzed yeast
citric acid
glutamate
glutamic acid
hydrolyzed protein
monopotassium glutamate
monosodium glutamate
protein
whey protein concentrate

There are also chelates. Minerals found individually and in some multi-vitamins, are usually joined to amino acids for better absorption, i.e., the minerals or multi-vitamins are chelated. The following are names used for chelates that will contain MSG and/or aspartic acid and phenylalanine which are two of the main ingredients in MSG’s toxic cousin aspartame:

amino acid chelate (chelated with amino acids)
potassium (or any other mineral ) citrate
potassium (or any other mineral) aspartate
potassium (or any other mineral) glutamate
chelated with hydrolyzed protein,
chelated with protein
chelated with amino acids
Some supplement manufacturers place asterisks after the names of minerals. Below the list of ingredients, the asterisk is often followed by a note that explains that the mineral is "chelated with hydrolyzed protein," "chelated with protein," or "chelated with amino acids."
Protein powders are all the rage for body builders and older people. The main ingredient is typically a hydrolyzed protein -- and hydrolyzed proteins contain MSG, excitotoxic aspartic acid (found also in aspartame), and excitotoxic L-cysteine (found in some dough conditioners). We have concern for anyone who ingests any form of MSG in his or her diet. We have extreme concern for athletes who ingest MSG just prior to, just following, or in the course of vigorous exercise, because there is evidence that the adverse effects of MSG may be intensified by vigorous exercise. Heart irregularities have been know to be caused by ingestion of MSG and/or aspartame. Heart irregularities can result in cardiac arrest.


About hospitals, nursing homes, and extended care facilities…

The most common sources of MSG in hospitals, nursing homes, and extended care facilities will be:

Soups – even if the institution purchases soups and/or soup bases that claim to be MSG-free
Protein drinks such as Boost and Ensure
Enteral care products – used when tube feeding
Gelatin
Gravies
Salad dressings
Intravenous solutions. Reactions have been reported to saline solution and solutions containing dextrose. Ringers solution appears to be MSG-free.
Anything no fat or low fat

Anything made with a sugar substitute likely contains neurotoxic aspartame, Equal, or AminoSweet.

People with extreme intolerance to MSG have difficulty with pharmaceuticals that contain MSG in the binders and/or fillers. They may also react to the starch on powdered gloves and/or the contacts that are glued to a patient’s chest for heart monitoring. The contact points that touch the body may contain guar gum which, after serveral days’ exposure, may cause adverse reactions.

About pet food…

It’s not only humans that have problems with MSG. The first evidence of MSG toxicity came from animal studies, some of which demonstrated that animals suffered brain lesions and endocrine disorders when fed monosodium glutamate. The possibility that your animal is sensitive to MSG is certainly worth considering. We have received the following from consumers:
________________________

Subj: Pet Food & MSG
Date: 8/17/2004 1.48:20 AM Central Standard Time

Dear Folks, would you consider adding an article on MSG in our Pet Food. Just about all the grocery store dog food and most of the canned cat food has various products with an msg base. What can we do about this??? Our pets are much smaller than we are and surely this is extremely bad for their small frame. God help us all. Also, how about my favorite ice cream which is Haagen Daz. I eat the simple flavors, Vanilla, Chocolate, Butter Pecan. I eat it because the original flavors are cream, skim milk, vanilla, chocolate. Anyways, thank you for being here. God Bless your work. M.D.
_______________________

From: D
To: adandjack@aol.com
Sent: 1/24/2009 2:07:06 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: MSG


Our bichpoo dog (6 yrs) ate some sweet & sour pork (left over from Chinese take out). Almost immediately he began to exhibit hyperness, running & jumping, and almost seemed to be "high" on something. He seemed disoriented and didn't settle down for almost six hours. The vet said he had never seen a dog show these symptoms from eating food. Could he be extremely sensitive to MSG or have you ever heard of this in an animal? Obviously no more people food for Buster. Thanks


Beyond MSG…
People who are sensitive to processed free glutamic acid (MSG), or those who simply would choose to avoid ingestion of toxic amino acids, need to know that there are two other neurotoxic amino acids commonly used in food: aspartic acid and L-cysteine. Aspartic acid is found in the sugar substitutes called "neotame", "aspartame", “AminoSweet”, "NutraSweet" and "Equal." L-cysteine is identified as L-cysteine and is most often found in dough conditioners.


http://www.truthinlabeling.org/II.WhereIsMSG.html

Im not gonna go into aspartame,. it changes its E number so much.. it takes the piss


Artificial non-carbohydrate sweetener 180 times sweeter than sugar. Additive number E951.
It is a modified dipeptide. Aspartic acid (http://www.wutang-corp.com/index.php?title=Aspartic_acid) and phenylalanine (http://www.wutang-corp.com/index.php?title=Phenylalanine) and joined by a standard peptide bond, but aspartame is also methyl ester (the ester group is on the carboxylic moiety of the phenylalanine).


peace

ratty mayonnaise
05-30-2011, 06:39 AM
Fatal, probably.


such an intelligent comment,.

are you going to join the army too?

RzaRectum
05-31-2011, 01:51 AM
dude ovaltine is the shit.
Why do they call this shit Ovaltine? The mug is round. The jar is round. They should call it roundtine. :=)

Uncle Steezo
05-31-2011, 05:59 AM
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