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etze
06-29-2011, 06:31 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/29/us-eurozone-idUSTRE75R23T20110629

etze
06-29-2011, 06:37 AM
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SL33
06-29-2011, 06:47 AM
''hung some bankers''


hahahahaahahahha


Shout out to Greeks.

etze
06-29-2011, 06:52 AM
edited and added some more photos.
gonna add more later
riots are taking place at this moment outside greek parliament

SL33
06-29-2011, 06:55 AM
why don't you go outside and help?

etze
06-29-2011, 07:07 AM
why don't you go outside and help?

im in a small town, about 7 hours from athens where riots take place
+ that cops have blocked most of the roads that lead to athens so people from other towns dont reach parliament

etze
06-29-2011, 07:30 AM
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J-Cee
06-29-2011, 07:47 AM
crazy shit.

etze
06-29-2011, 07:57 AM
they are voting for the new measures at this moment
it seems most of them voted yes.. riots gonna get worse after this

etze
06-29-2011, 08:02 AM
http://www.globalnational.com/wideangle/3217261.bin?size=sw940
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Soul Controller
06-29-2011, 08:08 AM
why don't you go outside and help?


lol

either the bankers will fall,. or athens is gonna get ripped to pieces.
the spainish are kicking ass too.

i understand the greek dude says he cant help.. but he can..

youtube.. or google #OPBAYER #OPGREENRIGHTS
better still join the #opbayer #opgermany irc servers/channels..
*edit apologises for them german channels.. lol dunno why i was thinking germany when its going on in greek.. multi tasking is so bad :s
ill post some greek #op rooms if anyone is interested*

see whats being planned.. join in.. consciously or physically, the choice is yours.

or check the links in my sig, and make yourway to the correct forum/thread.

this revolution is happening on-line and in real life at the same time..

from greece to north africa, its slowly moving westwards.. but it is moving.. i cant wait till this weekend in the uk :D

the old saying 'the revolution will not be televised' is turning out to be true,. as its being streamed live on line,.

we need to wake up the millitary and policeforces of each 'country'
soon as they can resist their corporate jobs and realise that we the public, need them, then they will morally and ethically know what to do..

peace

Shogah
06-29-2011, 08:09 AM
People will say that greek people is lazy and they don't want to work hard to compensate their standards, but what i've heard it is greek government/oligarchy that made debt of 300 bilion euros in the last decades and took most of it in their own pockets.

Now these debts must be returned and it all broke on the back of the people.

etze
06-29-2011, 08:13 AM
they even asked from greek army to guard banks because they have burned most of them @ athens

voting finished
138 out of 300 voted NO
and 155 voted YES

Frank Sobotka
06-29-2011, 11:05 AM
Previous Greek governments fucked up because they were corrupt.
But nobody wants to be the one to help clean their shit up.

Stop complaining and pay your goddamn taxes.

HANZO
06-29-2011, 03:30 PM
Previous Greek governments fucked up because they were corrupt.
But nobody wants to be the one to help clean their shit up.

Stop complaining and pay your goddamn taxes.

true.

i mean Greece was never fit to join the eurozone in the first place, the government lied about their economy. the truth about the Greek economy is that its one that spends alot but produces little. Greeks have lived good lives compared to other Europeans, a German or Englishmen retires at 65 while a Greek retires in their 50's.

this was never gonna last even this bailout wont save Greece economists expect Greece needing another bailout in 2014. this bailout just prolongs the inevitable. Greeks have got to learn that to be able to get back on their feet they are gonna need to take a hit and live with incredibly strict economic policies. thats the only way Greece can fix itself.

etze
06-29-2011, 07:33 PM
almost 12 hours non-stop rioting outside greek parliament today.
there are still some thousands of people there at Syntagma square
tomorrow morning there will be more mobilizations

diggy
06-29-2011, 09:09 PM
Turns out that the euro was not a good idea, eh?

Frank Sobotka
06-29-2011, 09:17 PM
Turns out that the euro was not a good idea, eh?What gives you that idea?

whitey
06-29-2011, 09:49 PM
What gives you that idea?


in a situation like this it would behoove the greeks to devalue their currency. but the fact that it is uniformly tied to most of the european union with the euro it is unable to do so.

EAGLE EYE
06-29-2011, 09:57 PM
mannnn fuck Greece

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/19830605/Prodigy+of+Mobb+Deep+Prodigy.jpg

diggy
06-29-2011, 10:49 PM
What gives you that idea?




Over the past decade, Greece took full advantage of a strong euro and rock-bottom interest rates to fuel a debt binge by the country’s consumers and its government. Now, if Greece can’t persuade investors to buy 53 billion euros of its government debt this year, it may have to seek a bailout from its European Union (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/e/european_union/index.html?inline=nyt-org) brethren or the International Monetary Fund (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/i/international_monetary_fund/index.html?inline=nyt-org) — or, worse, to default.

The stakes are high not just for Greece but for the entire euro zone, where efforts to forge a common economic identity are threatened by the financial crisis (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/credit_crisis/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier).


From the 4th paragraph:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/business/global/07greece.html







Other ish:

The French bank's warning was echoed by Mats Persson, Director of the Open Europe think-tank, which campaigns for reforms in Brussels.
He said: 'The eurozone is facing a fully-fledged crisis. The Greece episode has made it painfully clear how flawed the euro project was from the very beginning....



...Countries that are highly uncompetitive are normally able to slash interest rates and devalue their currencies to prop up their economies.
But this is not possible within the euro, given its one-size-fits-all economic governance.

The implication is that weak, peripheral eurozone members will have to suffer years of painful deflation and tumbling living standards, as well as draconian budget cuts, in order to adjust....






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250433/Greece-debt-bailout-EU-leaders-split-euro-crisis.html

CEITEDMOFO
06-29-2011, 11:06 PM
US IS WiNNING

whitey
06-29-2011, 11:35 PM
mannnn fuck Greece

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/19830605/Prodigy+of+Mobb+Deep+Prodigy.jpg

do you think he owns a mirror? and proceeds to look at it, and says "im looking fly today son".

EAGLE EYE
06-29-2011, 11:39 PM
absolutely


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8Z3s3ZJmwDk/ShImxYa4ehI/AAAAAAAAaOc/MmNSL36PjzU/jim_halpert2.jpg

Bobby Budknickers
06-30-2011, 12:05 AM
shit is real out there
http://www.kcconfidential.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/grease_movie_image_screenshot__4___medium_11.jpg

EAGLE EYE
06-30-2011, 12:21 AM
http://www.lifestylefood.com.au/Content/Shows/Thumbnails/Ainsleys-BBQ-Bible-thumb.jpg

Frank Sobotka
06-30-2011, 04:39 AM
Over the past decade, Greece took full advantage of a strong euro and rock-bottom interest rates to fuel a debt binge by the country’s consumers and its government. Now, if Greece can’t persuade investors to buy 53 billion euros of its government debt this year, it may have to seek a bailout from its European Union (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/e/european_union/index.html?inline=nyt-org) brethren or the International Monetary Fund (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/i/international_monetary_fund/index.html?inline=nyt-org) — or, worse, to default.

The stakes are high not just for Greece but for the entire euro zone, where efforts to forge a common economic identity are threatened by the financial crisis (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/credit_crisis/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier).


From the 4th paragraph:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/business/global/07greece.html






Other ish:

The French bank's warning was echoed by Mats Persson, Director of the Open Europe think-tank, which campaigns for reforms in Brussels.
He said: 'The eurozone is facing a fully-fledged crisis. The Greece episode has made it painfully clear how flawed the euro project was from the very beginning....



...Countries that are highly uncompetitive are normally able to slash interest rates and devalue their currencies to prop up their economies.
But this is not possible within the euro, given its one-size-fits-all economic governance.

The implication is that weak, peripheral eurozone members will have to suffer years of painful deflation and tumbling living standards, as well as draconian budget cuts, in order to adjust....






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250433/Greece-debt-bailout-EU-leaders-split-euro-crisis.html
Didn't California go broke last year as well?
California is more important to the dollar than greece to the euro.

Shogah
06-30-2011, 06:19 AM
mannnn fuck Greece

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/19830605/Prodigy+of+Mobb+Deep+Prodigy.jpg

Wouldn't survive a day in greek riots.

TheBoarzHeadBoy
06-30-2011, 08:25 AM
US IS WiNNING

You realize our debt crisis is even worse proportionately let alone in size right? That we've got weeks until the country defaults on our debt because they spend too much on stupid shit no one wants and don't tax enough (or on the side or reason knock that shit off) to keep us afloat.

We're about to have a world collapse that will dwarf the great depression unless Obama can get congress to raise taxes significantly and cut spending.

Personally I'm hoping for a collapse followed by a civil war. Then I'll be on my fine way to New Zealand to ride this shit out and herd sheep until this shit blows over.

etze
06-30-2011, 11:28 AM
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diggy
06-30-2011, 12:19 PM
Didn't California go broke last year as well?
California is more important to the dollar than greece to the euro.


You obviouly did not understand what I've posted.

And did you just compare a state to a country?

TheBoarzHeadBoy
06-30-2011, 10:50 PM
You obviouly did not understand what I've posted.

And did you just compare a state to a country?

Just for clarity you do realize that Hellas is a country right while the state is the Hellenic Republic? There's no such thing as Greece. That's the English approximation of the Roman word for a tribe of people in Italy that spoke a Hellenic dialect.

State: A nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.

And that California is also a country and a State?

Country: An area or region with regard to its physical features.



For example:

The Nation are the Americans.
The Country is America.
The State is the United States of America.

So you are a member of the American Nation, you live in America, and you are a citizen of the United States of America and more specifically the State in which you live.

Soul Controller
07-01-2011, 05:03 AM
http://e-worldwar.com/~/images/3.jpg


check the site.. scroll down,, theirs plenty of things greeks can do from home..

http://e-worldwar.com/
http://e-worldwar.com/moneyback.jpg

other sick links/resource material


http://www.youtube.com/user/RealDemocracyGr


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVbJg_a0FMs&feature=youtu.be


http://piratenpad.de/1K3WWE6i3a


Join in the revolution: http://irc.lc/Anonops/opgreece



Peace.

etze
09-10-2011, 06:33 AM
today is the thessaloniki international trade fair ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thessaloniki_International_Trade_Fair ) and there will be about 10 protest marches
all politics will be there, there are about 6000 cops in thessaloniki atm
organized protesters from all over greece have paid buses and trains to reach their destination

http://p.twimg.com/AY-XJnCCQAAj6fW.jpghttp://www.zougla.gr/file.ashx?fp=%7E/Uploads/000Filippos/newone/00000000002hg1fh54g.jpg
http://www.zougla.gr/file.ashx?fp=%7E/Uploads/%2100Anna/1009-astunomikoi2.jpg

Soul Controller
09-10-2011, 06:37 AM
:) thankyou for the update..

etze
09-10-2011, 06:39 AM
according to a greek tv channel there are snipers on rooftops around TIF

etze
09-10-2011, 06:45 AM
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/52454b7b161d5c1b65d21a4acb54d04f_xl.jpg
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Soul Controller
09-10-2011, 06:54 AM
govt snipers?
or snipers from the people who are protesting :D

etze
09-10-2011, 07:00 AM
govt snipers?
or snipers from the people who are protesting :D
specialized police members with snipers

they have also a vehicle like tank that throws water

http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/aiantas.jpg
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/dscn2760.preview.jpg
these fotos were took outside TIF like 10' ago

etze
09-10-2011, 07:03 AM
two new fotos from the fences outside TIF
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/deth_kigklidomata.jpg
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/metallikos_fraxtis.jpg

more cops arrived @ thessaloniki, they are about 7000-8000 now

etze
09-10-2011, 10:54 AM
taxi drivers started riots

etze
09-10-2011, 11:25 PM
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and a video from cops using excessive violence while arresting a protester. people from balconies are shouting to let him free
0m_rZNjGpNQ

etze
09-10-2011, 11:27 PM
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Soul Controller
09-11-2011, 03:56 AM
shiiit,

looks worse than last time..

where the protests only in the area of the trade fair, or did the catch on all over greece?


Peace Etze.

Frank Sobotka
09-11-2011, 04:56 AM
what are they bitching about now?

etze
09-11-2011, 09:17 AM
shiiit,

looks worse than last time..

where the protests only in the area of the trade fair, or did the catch on all over greece?


Peace Etze.
basically protests took place in the area of the trade fair (Thessaloniki). at night there were many protests around the universities in Thessaloniki. universities are about 500m away from the trade fair place. also, we had some protests in Athens too. only 400-500 people there though. about 95 arrests @ Thessaloniki and only 1 @ Athens. many injured protesters too, dont know an actual number

etze
09-11-2011, 09:20 AM
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etze
09-11-2011, 09:24 AM
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etze
09-11-2011, 09:54 AM
what are they bitching about now?
its always the same thing those 2 last years.
more and more austerity measures
now it's worse. there are a few more reasons.schools are opening tomorrow and no books delivered yet. they announced that books wont be delivered until november (!)
they suggest parents to buy those books because there's a chance that some books wont be given to children at all
they want to abolish/remove (dont know which word fits better lol ) the university asylum
they generally want to pass the universities' management to companies, u know, privatization

CEITEDMOFO
09-11-2011, 10:04 AM
FUCK THE GREEK AND THERE PUSSY OFFICALS, IF THEY DID TAHT SHIT IN THE MIDDLE EAST OR USA THEY WOULD GET SHOT IN FRONT OF THERE FAMILIEs'

PEACE

Soul Controller
09-12-2011, 06:31 AM
^^ you love dictatorships??

CAdglyx5iuc

Fresh
09-12-2011, 11:08 AM
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/5vuaiwzi.jpg








i love this pic hahaha

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
09-12-2011, 11:21 AM
All great societies built solely on gay sex must someday come to an end.







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Soul Controller
09-12-2011, 11:30 AM
somw of my faves

http://libcom.org/files/images/loukanikos.jpg


http://xaxor.com/images/other/12321/009.jpg


http://xaxor.com/images/other/12321/010.jpg

Soul Controller
09-12-2011, 11:31 AM
All great societies built solely on gay sex must someday come to an end.







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does that include western society?

Frank Sobotka
09-12-2011, 01:52 PM
Protests like these me make me ashamed of being human.

drippie k
09-12-2011, 02:02 PM
greece ain't the only place in europe goin nuts right now either

Spain

http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Protests-in-Spain-2011.jpg

http://jafrianews.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/spain-protest-before-election-2011.jpg?w=540&h=298

http://www.worldbulletin.net/resim/news/39201.jpg

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/PKGH/04-08-2011/Spain%20protest.jpg

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/blogpost/Images/spainviolent.JPG?uuid=8TIujoiHEeCKrODr1YGiVg

http://www.periodico26.cu/english/images/stories/del_mundo/spain-protest.jpg

Italy

http://media.katu.com/images/101130_italy_protest.jpg

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2010/12/14/w-italy-protest-cp-rtxvpsl.jpg

http://static.euronews.net/images_old/10/W300px_italy-protests-rome-berlusconi-1512.jpg

http://info-wars.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/levrt.jpg

CEITEDMOFO
09-12-2011, 03:06 PM
^^ you love dictatorships??



YES
http://www.uncoverage.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/hugo_chavez_parrot1.jpg

etze
09-13-2011, 01:17 AM
somw of my faves

http://libcom.org/files/images/loukanikos.jpg

i think i've posted about this dog before
it's called "Loukanikos" (means "sausage" LOL)
http://www.thisblogrules.com/2010/03/dog-that-hasnt-missed-a-single-riot-for-years.html

we had 2 more dogs that participated in riots, one passed away ;/

etze
09-13-2011, 01:21 AM
YES
http://www.uncoverage.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/hugo_chavez_parrot1.jpg
faGGit spotted

etze
09-13-2011, 01:26 AM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/255041_174026012658264_174024782658387_456308_3612 536_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248825_174663472594518_174024782658387_459043_9782 73_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247023_174043892656476_174024782658387_456370_7106 37_n.jpg
http://img.protothema.gr/4516383B2C7187883E73FE4D57B44C42.jpg

here's a video with Loukanikos too
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it's from june's riots but nvm

etze
10-06-2011, 12:01 PM
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this video is from yesterday's strike
the dog is still active and its biting a cop at the end of the video lol
they kicked him a few times thought and now the dog is injured and cant even walk ;(
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/1231et0rfk.jpg

Soul Controller
10-06-2011, 07:58 PM
:( poor doggy,.

i heard its been pretty crazy their the last few days..

whats the price of living like?
what are the average prices of things, compared to wages for standard jobs?

Soul Controller
10-06-2011, 09:04 PM
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Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 08:00 AM
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Frank Sobotka
10-07-2011, 08:05 AM
There are people who support these riots?

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 08:18 AM
their rioting, cos they have no cash,. inflation is greace is a motherfucker.. compared to what they could buy with their currency before the euro, and what they can buy now, is a fucking joke.

how long can people peacefully march? with their govts ignoring them, and just making things worse, the police are just corporate enforcement officers, making money for the elite. while the average human is struggling.

rioting is the cause, of the govts and politicians ignoring the 99%, and just looking after their own self interest.

what would u do icke, if you had no cash / food, lil hope for better education, or even finding a job in your home country, you was struggling.. but the elite around u.. just get richer and richer, while austerity measures are their only for the poor..

would you take it in the ass like a good slave, and not revolt?

i went to holland while they had gilders, and i went when they started the euro, albeit the govn and bankers did well in holland, they brought value of the gilder up, but you still could feel hole in your pocket when you switched..
least the gilder was worth somthing.. greece's currency (kronos?) is devalued to fuck.. its worth less than the paper its printed on..

Fresh
10-07-2011, 08:23 AM
police are average humans too dude. theyre certainly not in the upper class

the problem simply is inequality. say right now the higher ups are 10/10 and norms are 5/10. even if everyone was a 2/10 it still wouldnt evoke riots because everyone is in the same boat going through the same struggle. only because the 5/10's are seeing the 10/10's living like they do that people get upset

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 09:00 AM
i know the police aint.. the police are the same as us, they should be working on behalf of the people.. not the elite.
the police choose to protect the elite..
police training is on policeys,, not policing.

a policeman serving under oath, would not blindly back their fascist / corporate controlled govts,

a genuine police officer, upholding his OATH, is for and with the people.

Frank Sobotka
10-07-2011, 09:26 AM
their rioting, cos they have no cash,. inflation is greace is a motherfucker.. compared to what they could buy with their currency before the euro, and what they can buy now, is a fucking joke.

how long can people peacefully march? with their govts ignoring them, and just making things worse, the police are just corporate enforcement officers, making money for the elite. while the average human is struggling.

rioting is the cause, of the govts and politicians ignoring the 99%, and just looking after their own self interest.

what would u do icke, if you had no cash / food, lil hope for better education, or even finding a job in your home country, you was struggling.. but the elite around u.. just get richer and richer, while austerity measures are their only for the poor..

would you take it in the ass like a good slave, and not revolt?

i went to holland while they had gilders, and i went when they started the euro, albeit the govn and bankers did well in holland, they brought value of the gilder up, but you still could feel hole in your pocket when you switched..
least the gilder was worth somthing.. greece's currency (kronos?) is devalued to fuck.. its worth less than the paper its printed on..

Greece isn't america and that isn't occupy wall street. Greece is in debt, but these people don't want to sacrifice wealth to get out of debt. Sure they aren't the wealthiest right now but at this point they're not helping resolve their country's crisis at all.

Greece has a huge tourism sector, violent riots so violence is especially destructive their.

Nobody is willing to take responsibility for the crisis when it is clear that somebody has to.

THE MASON
10-07-2011, 11:27 AM
Greeks did this to themselves by being lazy fucks, they have no one to blame but the people.

high demands for money + plus no people working = failed government support

whatd they think they could eat from the hands of the government honey pot forever, and it wouldnt run dry?

kick em out the EU before things get really really fucked, and let em figure it out and re apply

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 11:35 AM
^^ totally wrong mindset..

coming to a country near you,.


5 years ago.. milk cost them say 20kronos... that same milk now is like x150 the original price
and its the peoples fault?
what jobs are their in greece,.
they dont export anything,

the people og greece havent done this to themselves

are u syaing the ppl of ireland/portugal/spain/iceland have done this??

no they dont control interest rates, or commerce..

so easy to blame those who are struggling.

THE MASON
10-07-2011, 11:40 AM
not coming to a country like me, we choose to work for a living

how is it a wrong mindset? cause it oppses yours? you realize ignorance works both ways?

the vast majority are quick to blame the government for everything like nothing was ever there fault.

people should try looking at what they contribute not what they recieve

etze
10-07-2011, 12:21 PM
goverment's been stealing people's money for the last 30 years
and now they want people to pay this debt
every politician in greece is corrupted, no exceptions
thats the reason we are in this shit
people's fault is that they voted those faggits

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 12:25 PM
not coming to a country like me, we choose to work for a living

how is it a wrong mindset? cause it oppses yours? you realize ignorance works both ways?

the vast majority are quick to blame the government for everything like nothing was ever there fault.

people should try looking at what they contribute not what they recieve


it can oppose me i dont mind,.

its not coming to a country near u??

why are u non ignorant??

your showing a distinct lack of knowledge on how the fractional lending/fiat money system works.. or even how much the corporation get over the average person who works incredibly hard.


do you realise that almost every country in the world is bankrupt..

who too??
and for what? worthless paper..


educate yourself on the bullshit money system.

etze
10-07-2011, 12:26 PM
not to mention that cops dont know shit about strategy and safety. the cops' school is 3-6 months. then they get a gun. lol
shit is ridiculous
most of them even hold their glops upside down. this shit can kill someone if u hit him on the head
they even throw chemicals straight to people. and ALL their chemicals are out of date lol

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 12:30 PM
goverment's been stealing people's money for the last 30 years
and now they want people to pay this debt
every politician in greece is corrupted, no exceptions
thats the reason we are in this shit
people's fault is that they voted those faggits


i think bronze will ignore this,.

i dont see it as the peoples fault..

people have been lulled into a false sense, that their govts reprsent them, when all govts care for are GDP, making money for huge corporations, the corporations get tax breaks, extra incentives, while we get no such breaks, or any incentives..

the media, education, everything that has created this capitalist society is to blame..


id recommend bronze watch the black dude rant in the occupywallstreet protest,, man kills its..

how can america owe money to china.. (how can any country owe cash to china)

china = communist.. all democratic / capitalist countries say communism doesnt work..

yet we all owe money to china..

LOLOL

i swear people are fucking stupid. keep believing what your media tells u bronze.

etze
10-07-2011, 12:30 PM
and now its considered illegal to group at the Syntagma square (outside parliament). there's police 24/7

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 12:34 PM
^^ i bet originally that is where every historic greek protest took place??

same as in england.. last 2 years we cant protest outsite the houses of parliment..

just so the tourists cant see lols

reality is a joke

etze
10-07-2011, 12:38 PM
well, greeks always were grouping at Syntagma square. but they were always like 20.000-50.000
this year there were more than 700.000
and not only one time, it was almost every day lol
at general strikes over a million people go there
they are moving from all over greece

we also got fascists collaborating with the police
i hate those snakes lol

Frank Sobotka
10-07-2011, 12:41 PM
goverment's been stealing people's money for the last 30 years
and now they want people to pay this debt
every politician in greece is corrupted, no exceptions
thats the reason we are in this shit
people's fault is that they voted those faggits
Who else is going to fucking pay it?

Stop complaining about the politicians that did a shitty job and start electing politicians that are capable of running a country.

The main problem with any bail out that comes greece's way is that the EU can't enforce anything.

etze
10-07-2011, 12:50 PM
Who else is going to fucking pay it?

Stop complaining about the politicians that did a shitty job and start electing politicians that are capable of running a country.

The main problem with any bail out that comes greece's way is that the EU can't enforce anything.
governement dont want an election to take place
they will fail 100%
we need to wait 2 more years for election

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 12:51 PM
^^ thats the thing.. politics is not the system, that helps the people.
politics only helps the rich and elite

every member of every party is signed up to higher bodies.. such as CFR/trillaterial/tavistock countless other think tanks.. that set social policies world wide

the 2/3 party system is an illusion, especially when those parties are supposed to be individual and seperate..

why give your free will away, and let some1 else represent you..

this form of governance (illusory democracy) is over..

their is no seperation between state and corporations
hence you have fascism.

policed by these fucking pyscho policey officers.


playing into the system and voting.. your just consenting to your own demise.

ill vote, when the parties represent the people, and not big corporations..
ill vote when

members of labour and convervative.. are not part of the CFR, or the school of science.. or the council of 12..

go check these think tanks

go and check CFR.org
check the politicians in your country.

shits dodgey.

etze
10-07-2011, 12:56 PM
also, we have more than 60 suicides cause of debts in 2011
like 2 weeks ago a father with 5 children set himself on fire outside a bank cause bank took his house
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl4m4t_yyyyyyy-yyyyyyyyy-yy-yyyyyyyyyyyyyy_news#rel-page-1
http://f.i.uol.com.br/folha/mundo/images/11259734.jpeg

Soul Controller
10-07-2011, 12:59 PM
fuck thats grusome..

i feel sorry for him and his family.. :(:(:(

just sat here shaking my head..

fuck. im gonna have to leave now.. that pic depressed me..
gonna go and annoy my mrs at work. fuck

that pic made me so sad :(

etze
10-07-2011, 12:59 PM
and here's a photo of George Papandreou, the prime minister of greece
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/314852_1859576068356_1809540630_1330492_1662756824 _n.jpg

Frank Sobotka
10-07-2011, 01:00 PM
^^ thats the thing.. politics is not the system, that helps the people.
politics only helps the rich and elite

every member of every party is signed up to higher bodies.. such as CFR/trillaterial/tavistock countless other think tanks.. that set social policies world wide

the 2/3 party system is an illusion, especially when those parties are supposed to be individual and seperate..

why give your free will away, and let some1 else represent you..

this form of governance (illusory democracy) is over..

their is no seperation between state and corporations
hence you have fascism.

policed by these fucking pyscho policey officers.


playing into the system and voting.. your just consenting to your own demise.

ill vote, when the parties represent the people, and not big corporations..
ill vote when

members of labour and convervative.. are not part of the CFR, or the school of science.. or the council of 12..

go check these think tanks

go and check CFR.org
check the politicians in your country.

shits dodgey.As I thought, you're projecting your concerns about your own government on to other problems.

etze, not too informed about this but your country has mutliple prominent parties right? I saw one party had a significant majority on wiki but that changes every election right?

etze
10-07-2011, 01:03 PM
fuck thats grusome..

i feel sorry for him and his family.. :(:(:(

just sat here shaking my head..

fuck. im gonna have to leave now.. that pic depressed me..
gonna go and annoy my mrs at work. fuck

that pic made me so sad :(
well, he's not dead
he just got injured, not even badly injured
dont know what happened with his debt though
there are hundreds of examples from people without electricity and water
lemme give u an example. my electricity bill is about 100 euros per 3 months
60-65 of these are taxes for the greek tv, 15-20 are just taxes and all other shit is the cost of the electricity i use

etze
10-07-2011, 01:06 PM
As I thought, you're projecting your concerns about your own government on to other problems.

etze, not too informed about this but your country has mutliple prominent parties right? I saw one party had a significant majority on wiki but that changes every election right?
there are 2 prominent parties, PASOK and New Democracy
PASOK is on the lead the last 30 years with an exception of 4 or 8 years (i dont remember if New Democracy got elected twice)
PASOK had about 47% of people's vote
now they hardly reach 8%

etze
10-07-2011, 01:26 PM
also, we have a big problem at education
they want to pass a low they voted for. this law REALLY sucks.
they sell universities' management to companies, u have only 2 more years (ur university's years + 2 years) to finish ur studies or else u get kicked without getting a diploma, no more asylum in the universities, more subjects at less hours and other crazy shit
they even want us to pay in order to get a discount card for buses, trains etc..
this shit used to be free for years, its just a paper shit. we used to get it from the university and now they sell it to students at a couple of multiple stores
we had about 300 university sit-ins a week ago. now there are only ~100 cause they threatened us we gonna lose the whole year

THE MASON
10-07-2011, 03:04 PM
i love seeing you anti government, conspiracy nuts squeem around when someone makes a contridicting statements

peace soul and etze, but i got my eyes on things. my opinion, to save the rest of the EU, let Greece go and say fuck em until they can get there shit together on both sides.

IrOnMaN
10-07-2011, 04:06 PM
This just proves that money IS the key to life, regardless of what anyone says. Everything else will eventually fall into place.

People don't care as long as he/she has their own. In these horrific times, it's every man, woman, and child for themselves.

whitey
10-07-2011, 04:12 PM
This just proves that money IS the key to life, regardless of what anyone says. Everything else will eventually fall into place.

People don't care as long as he/she has their own. In these horrific times, it's every man, woman, and child for themselves.

no. its a race between anglos/europeans/american whites vs. blacks. sunny even said so.

IrOnMaN
10-07-2011, 04:21 PM
no. its a race between anglos/europeans/american whites vs. blacks. sunny even said so.

Sunny?}:|

Soul Controller
10-08-2011, 04:17 AM
This just proves that money IS the key to life, regardless of what anyone says. Everything else will eventually fall into place.

People don't care as long as he/she has their own. In these horrific times, it's every man, woman, and child for themselves.


this is the mind frame the mainstream world wants you to have..

everyone living like that will go extinct,. killing each other for bread. lols


the only future i see is a cashless society, where ethics and morals are totally different, where corporate and govt dont mix.

wwhere people power is stronger than the will of the 1%

1st of all, their so many ppl on earth, we cant even afford to fucking feed them all., but yet we do shit like apple does, we try and go into space.. we make 3d fucking tv;s
FUCK THAT,
that bullshit needs to change.
when people cant even have food to live daily.. and clowns actually envy this system.. as i said.. that mind frame will go extinct, as the events that will come, will totally daze them poor folk..



Bronze.. this is just not a uk thing( and it deff isnt conspiracy., go educate ur self on world politics) regardless if ur a greek policitician, british, italian, us, you will still need to show aliengence to world bodies such as CFR/trillateral, ETC
hell even ron paul is CFR (check cfr.org)


just playing along with the voting/political system, is tightening the veil around your own face


Peace

Soul Controller
10-08-2011, 04:20 AM
i love seeing you anti government, conspiracy nuts squeem around when someone makes a contridicting statements

peace soul and etze, but i got my eyes on things. my opinion, to save the rest of the EU, let Greece go and say fuck em until they can get there shit together on both sides.


do you know how the fiat/fractional banking system works??

dou think its legal / lawful / just that people can just type numbers onto a computer.. and like magic, their more cash available ??

do you not see the bullshit in having a few people control how wealth is created?

u say anti govt??? government = to do the will of the people

is your govt doing your will?? and if it is.. is that will raping the 99%??

Frank Sobotka
10-08-2011, 04:45 AM
I don't think the monetary system is working either but the world isn't ready to move on from it. For a utopian society we need a degree selflessness that I don't see mankind having for another couple of centuries.

Is it even scientifically possible to feed the entire world with the resources we have today?

Conspiracy nuts like Soul Controller (No offence) need to stop seeing the government as an evil entity with a sinister agenda. Government is just a system we use to take care of public goods. If the system isn't working properly it's corrupted or not build up properly, not trying to enslave us.

Soul Controller
10-08-2011, 05:22 AM
conspiracy nut? then say no offence.. lol

even saying conspiracy.. shows what your mind state is on this

cfr and trillaterial/ school of 12, school of science. etc.. are world bodies.. its not a fucking conspiracy,.. its out in the open!! check their official sites..

but calling some1 a conspiracy nut. is already showing u refuse to look into 'world governance'

if you really think govt doesnt try to ennslave you,. i think u should read u.n and other thinktanks info on project 2000, maybe even agenda 21 ( both official papers, not conspiracy shit)


course the world isnt ready for the types of system i mentioned. everything in current society is based on accumilation of wealth.. meaningless wealth at the expense of others.. the more wealth u have(meaningless paper) the more status u have in society

that is whats indoctrinated from birth,. through education ( yeahh we went to war, ww1/ww2, so we could live like this, cos we the allies won, we have goods, while the world starves!! yayyy mayn!)

proove to me the govt arent evil.. proove to me that each party in your country, is individual. proove to me, that govt and corporations, dont work together, at the expense of the average person.


the difference is.. i live very unselfishliy, i help anyonew and everyone.. i give food and money to strangers..
i have chats with real life friends.. they hate people who live of the system, they hate different types of society..
all the division is created to divide, polarisation creates control, and pushs people to back their own corners.

lastly.. proove to me one time, the government has done GOOD for the people (not corporations)
just anyone time.. show and proove. show me why u have so much trust in a system that just rapes and pillages..

and define how u see me as a conspiracy nut..
how do u base that, what do u base it on?

everything i speak on. i have done factually.. its upto you to go and research what ive said.. even basic shit like cfr/trillaterals. controlling world politics.. yes its sounds far fettched.. but these are public bodies..
go research

Frank Sobotka
10-08-2011, 06:18 AM
How am I supposed to have a discussion when you keeps saying the government like there is one that controls the entire world.

Soul Controller
10-08-2011, 08:46 AM
go research trillaterial commision.. the council of foriegn relations,

the u/n's agenda 21, project 2000..

read the missions statements of those public bodies..



i never said, the govt controls the entire world.. please show me where i have said that.. i know what my problem is.. i say too much, and that usually messes up peoples neurological nerves, and they get dazed confused and lost, thus it becomming a conspiracy theory..

only way you can see, is by putting time into research.

peace icke,

Olive Oil Goombah
10-08-2011, 09:58 AM
prove to me that these protesters aren't evil.


Almost every politician started their life as protesters.


It's these politico's, these government and power obsessed people that cause most of the mess you see.


It's why the normal hard-working people don't get mixed up in protests or politics.


At least not until it directly effects them.


Human beings are selfish, its part of our hard-wired existence. Without selfishness, there is no self preservation.



It doesnt matter if these revolutions spread. Look what spawned the last round of revolutions about 100 years ago......Fascism and communism....both supposedly for the working man and working against the elite.

And look how that turned out.

I don't trust these protesters anymore than I trust a corrupt government. Anyone so extreme is a danger.

IrOnMaN
10-08-2011, 02:12 PM
this is the mind frame the mainstream world wants you to have..

everyone living like that will go extinct,. killing each other for bread. lols


the only future i see is a cashless society, where ethics and morals are totally different, where corporate and govt dont mix.

wwhere people power is stronger than the will of the 1%

1st of all, their so many ppl on earth, we cant even afford to fucking feed them all., but yet we do shit like apple does, we try and go into space.. we make 3d fucking tv;s
FUCK THAT,
that bullshit needs to change.
when people cant even have food to live daily.. and clowns actually envy this system.. as i said.. that mind frame will go extinct, as the events that will come, will totally daze them poor folk..

Okay but love doesn't pay the bills. People NEED money to live and love.

1.) Money
2.) Power
3.) Love

Think about it.

Olive Oil Goombah
10-08-2011, 05:35 PM
dude, these are a bunch of upper middle class college students with nothing better to do.

Frank Sobotka
10-09-2011, 03:12 AM
I've noticed that the youth will support any anti-government protest or riot regardless of the cause, even if they have no idea what it's about.

Soul Controller
10-09-2011, 04:35 AM
the cause is obviously clear..
please dont use cnn/fox as news sources..

watch some RT, or the live streams

Soul Controller
10-09-2011, 04:40 AM
Okay but love doesn't pay the bills. People NEED money to live and love.

1.) Money
2.) Power
3.) Love

Think about it.


Thats the old system, its failed time and time again, what will the ppeople in power keep doing? create more meaningless paper?? thats worthless and even more devalued??
how long before people see the fallacy in this system.. its collsapsing and failing all over the globe..

pay bills? was you born to pay bills? was you born to work 24/7?

are you free?


lol i dont need to think about it,. i know how the money system is created.

Olive Oil Goombah
10-09-2011, 07:30 AM
lol....soul controller how to you think stuff gets done without work?

how do building get built, roads paved, etc. etc.


the only way we go back to "utopia" hunter gatherer societies is if we forget anything we've learned and 3/4 of the people on the planet die off.

IrOnMaN
10-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Thats the old system, its failed time and time again, what will the ppeople in power keep doing? create more meaningless paper?? thats worthless and even more devalued??
how long before people see the fallacy in this system.. its collsapsing and failing all over the globe..

pay bills? was you born to pay bills? was you born to work 24/7?

are you free?


lol i dont need to think about it,. i know how the money system is created.


Dude, what do you think we're suppose to do? Some people are blessed to have from come a good family and others aren't so lucky. I don't think you have a grasp on what life is all about. Money is more powerful than love and it'll always be. Again, love doesn't pay the bills.

Why do you think that there are so many murder-suicides occurring? It's money. People are losing their jobs and as a result of that, families are breaking up because THERE IS NO MORE INCOME!

Soul Controller
10-10-2011, 02:51 AM
lol....soul controller how to you think stuff gets done without work?

how do building get built, roads paved, etc. etc.


the only way we go back to "utopia" hunter gatherer societies is if we forget anything we've learned and 3/4 of the people on the planet die off.


total re-education of the masses, a total seperation between state and corporation, more value to be put into people, rather than inanimate material objects.

stuff will still get done.. depends what stuff you mean tho.. like pointlessy sending probes to the far reaches of the solar system.. should end.. how many billion for that shit?? pointless research in particle acceleration.. how many billions???

why would we need to forget what we have learnt??

we are not advanced enough as a civilisation, to even understand how much we destroy this planet on the daily..
that is the pinnacle of our society? lols

everything will still get done, as long as their is a genuine need, but pointless shit, shouldnt even be contemplated, especially when ok.. lets just go for america..
almost 30% unemployment.
some parts of the states have 60% poverty line, while the average is 30%

the wealth (the illusion of wealth/status) is controlled by a very few,.
society would need to be totally re built. people re educated, the media not used to push the every man for themselves b/s
even update einsteins stupid survival of the fittest shit.

so much can be done,. but people are too attatched to this materialistic system, that has them working as slaves, to live for free..


i guess the best way for this to happen,. is to rebuild from the destruction

with whoever/whatevers left.

EAGLE EYE
10-10-2011, 03:23 AM
stuff will still get done.. depends what stuff you mean tho.. like pointlessy sending probes to the far reaches of the solar system.. should end.. how many billion for that shit?? pointless research in particle acceleration.. how many billions???



I disagree with this entirely

There is nothing pointless about making advances in the study/understanding of physics and exploration of the solar system, unless you are some sort of religious fundamentalist or xenophobe who's scared an ET might have a bigger penis than you.


Money is not a requirement to push our boundaries and bring satellites,probes, plus any other tech into fruition. We could live in a cashless society and still accomplish all of this. Some sort of incentive would still likely be needed to entice the brightest minds. Notoriety used to be enough...


As if the driving force behind our species curiosity is monetary gain.

Soul Controller
10-10-2011, 03:56 AM
I disagree with this entirely

There is nothing pointless about making advances in the study/understanding of physics and exploration of the solar system, unless you are some sort of religious fundamentalist or xenophobe who's scared an ET might have a bigger penis than you.


Money is not a requirement to push our boundaries and bring satellites,probes, plus any other tech into fruition. We could live in a cashless society and still accomplish all of this. Some sort of incentive would still likely be needed to entice the brightest minds. Notoriety used to be enough...


As if the driving force behind our species curiosity is monetary gain.


its pretty hard to convey all my thoughts in as much depth in short posts..

its pointless, if the rest of the country/state/planet is in trouble.
its pointless if the same few corporations, make billions on $$$$ while the average joe starves.
i agree we need to advance in these areas, but in the current economic climate/state it is unfeasable..

i totally agree we can/could live in a cashless society and probably well mos def, gain a better understanding of the sciences than we currently do.

but the current system is based on control,. for us as a species to progress, the current system has to be totally changed,

the curiousty of our species has always been their, will always be their, great minds will always make cutting edge discoveries, breakthroughs.. thats what we as humans do naturally and instinctivly.


if further advancements are done with the benefit of humanity as its design, then im all for it.. but if its for the advancement of a few, at the cost of others.. it can wait.


lol im not religious, i do not believe in no external force controlling us, or shaping ones destiny

Uncle Steezo
10-10-2011, 04:48 AM
you completely mised robby's point.
just remove money from the society and people will accomplish things for other reasons wehter it be fame/noteriety, to contribute to society, self worth, personal goals/aspirations, etc

i like some of the things the venus project has to say about this.

and if you need help fitting your big thoughts into small packages, try writing haiku.
we had a dope haiku thread here years ago. i think its time for another.

Soul Controller
10-10-2011, 05:34 AM
[QUOTE=STYLE;2157852]
just remove money from the society and people will accomplish things for other reasons wehter it be fame/noteriety, to contribute to society, self worth, personal goals/aspirations, etc

/QUOTE]


i agree with this 100%

but i dont trust the venus project, comes across like a cult.

etze
10-19-2011, 08:17 AM
today we had more riots, its a general strike
attacked a police station and smashed about 10 banks here lol
Athens is on fire too
http://www.zougla.gr/file.ashx?fp=%7E/Uploads/0mirto/000000000000000000sduhfiudh.jpg
http://www.zougla.gr/file.ashx?fp=%7E/Uploads/0mirto/000000000000000000000vkjduh.jpg

etze
10-19-2011, 08:27 AM
here's a foto from my town before riots start
http://www.zougla.gr/file.ashx?fp=%7E/Uploads/000Filippos/newone/00000g2re1g2re.jpg
those 2 fotos i posted before are from athens

Soul Controller
10-19-2011, 08:31 AM
48 hours of strikes nationwide.

sick., needs to happen world wide..

respect to the peoples of Greece.

etze
10-19-2011, 08:55 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nkaNwNebuSU/Tp6d6H-QCwI/AAAAAAAAAlI/1kZ8XFDbNKY/s1600/Ska+Cop.jpg

here they are trying to get that wall down
kyFadg5RwM0
it's outside greek parliament
another video from the same spot:
dPcDS6QsNYk

Frank Sobotka
10-19-2011, 01:04 PM
Is the 99% by any chance the general european population protesting against 1% that is greece.

etze
10-19-2011, 05:20 PM
some more fotos from october 19
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etze
10-19-2011, 05:24 PM
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Soul Controller
10-19-2011, 05:27 PM
Is the 99% by any chance the general european population protesting against 1% that is greece.


i know your not stupid enough to ask that seriously.

its going to be a HOT winter.

CEITEDMOFO
10-19-2011, 05:27 PM
GREECE HAS TO HAVE THE PUSSYIEST ARmY IN THE WORLD LMAO

etze
10-19-2011, 05:33 PM
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etze
10-19-2011, 05:36 PM
GREECE HAS TO HAVE THE PUSSYIEST ARmY IN THE WORLD LMAO
government asked army to protect banks because we have a lot of riots those 2 last years
the general of the army announced that if he had to choose a side at riots, he'd get a tank and rush into a bank first lol

etze
10-19-2011, 05:49 PM
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Soul Controller
10-19-2011, 06:40 PM
shame these strikes are only 2 days,, they need to last longer,, be more unified(atleast europe wide)

rape the system till it fails..

some major ops are planned for next month,, withdrawing cash/closing accounts..
towards the end of next month,,a next #op to do with defaulting on mortgages,,
just depends how many ppl do that shit,, i think it will be huge.. due to banks like city, not allowing customers to close their accounts/getting arrested for doing so..

system failure coming soon

Olive Oil Goombah
10-19-2011, 09:05 PM
i dont know anything about Greeek politics but i hope this bailout passes just because i think the people who are against it in this thread are fucking faggots.


again, i dont care what happens either way, its just, your homoism and bitchness in this thread has influence me negatively for your cause.


Fucking pussies

EAGLE EYE
10-19-2011, 09:26 PM
I was reading about the EU bank probe and raids while on the shitter @ work today

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-19/eu-says-companies-raided-in-investigation-on-euribor-derivatives.html

etze
10-20-2011, 07:43 AM
some more fotos from yesterday
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etze
10-20-2011, 07:50 AM
and these are from my town
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/pa190092nisisk.jpghttp://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/pa190222psbedx.jpghttp://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/pa190234jmahza.jpg

Soul Controller
10-20-2011, 08:27 AM
i dont know anything about Greeek politics but i hope this bailout passes just because i think the people who are against it in this thread are fucking faggots.


again, i dont care what happens either way, its just, your homoism and bitchness in this thread has influence me negatively for your cause.


Fucking pussies


intelligent aren't you,

prop up the economy with more fiat cash/fractal lending,(which is fraud)
keep the system on life support, while inflation hits record prices, unemployment reach's record highs, and minimum wage stays at poverished levels.. check the diagram i put up showing those figures over the lats 80 years, in the occupywallstreet thread.

keep the system on life support for how long? the crash is inevitable..

bailouts effect the world, you really need to brush up on your economics..
i advise watchingsome max keiser.

Soul Controller
10-20-2011, 08:35 AM
JXzKcS_9qi8

america is way more in debt than greece.. theirs not enough printed pieces of paper in the world,to even sort this debt out..

some1 reboot the hardrives.

SL33
10-20-2011, 10:01 AM
i hate those anarchists. whata bunch of faggots.

but much love 4 all the greeks struggling on the streets of athens and thessaloniki.



Paokara!!!

etze
10-20-2011, 10:10 AM
we have a dead man at syntagma square..
a 53 year old died from heart attack. it's official :/
the reason he died is not sure yet. some say he was injured by a stone and some say he went to the hospital with respirational problems.
rip

etze
10-20-2011, 10:26 AM
he died from a heart attack after breathing in chemicals ;/

Soul Controller
10-20-2011, 06:55 PM
:( rip

etze
02-12-2012, 05:06 PM
one of the biggest riots ever in greece today..
this foto is from my town and think that i live in county

http://ergatis.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/volos-12-2-20121.jpg

the building in flames used to be a bank

EAGLE EYE
02-12-2012, 05:15 PM
Damn, and i thought Bridgeport, CT was the most danerous place on earth

etze
02-12-2012, 05:19 PM
iHMlnb5EmjM

etze
02-12-2012, 05:29 PM
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athens is burning today
+ more than 10 media/gov sites hacked by anonymous in the last 2 hours

KERZO
02-12-2012, 05:50 PM
If the greeks are broke as fuck then how the hell can they afford all those gasmasks, flags, flares and tear gas?

http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2011/04/OMG.gif

Damn, and i thought Bridgeport, CT was the most danerous place on earth

Of course it is, Skampoe is always ready to battle with his trusty warhat at the HOLLOW SIDE OF DUH PORT!!!!!

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbrmUpgNTsf9nAssnVY-7nkQ9YGQL5LrvdAaZcwg1T4hY6ou7Ltw

etze
02-12-2012, 06:04 PM
If the greeks are broke as fuck then how the hell can they afford all those gasmasks, flags, flares and tear gas?
actually most of them are stolen from police/stores that they break during riots etc
thats why most of the stuff u mentioned is given free to protesters

CEITEDMOFO
02-12-2012, 06:57 PM
FUCK GREECE I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL u
http://oi41.tinypic.com/35l4s2h.jpg

JASPER
02-12-2012, 07:27 PM
http://www.zougla.gr/file.ashx?fp=%7E/Uploads/000Filippos/freskos2012/fotiesprotoselido580x230.jpg
athens is burning today
+ more than 10 media/gov sites hacked by anonymous in the last 2 hours
Putting water on a Greece fire, what are they even thinking?

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff449/robochrist1/a39af280.jpg

ShaDynasty
02-12-2012, 07:37 PM
hur hur

x3HCksdQiLI

EAGLE EYE
02-12-2012, 08:04 PM
Putting water on a Greece fire, what are they even thinking?

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff449/robochrist1/a39af280.jpg

Hahaha

etze
02-13-2012, 01:19 AM
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etze
02-13-2012, 01:23 AM
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02-13-2012, 01:26 AM
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etze
02-13-2012, 01:34 AM
here's the anonymous' message about the gov/media sites they hacked yesterday
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Soul Controller
02-13-2012, 10:51 AM
^^

before the current technocratic ( dictator installed on behalf of the world banking community, people should read 'the age between the techocratic era' by Zbigniew Brzezinski' which fully supports banking dictaroships.. Brzezinski has been part of the us government for over 40 years... major player... read his books.. this shit is not a conpiracy.. its all been laid out)

anyway yeah before the current financial dictator was installed.. the greeks should have begun a populous movement, ,,
even more so the rest of europe (spain/portugal/eire) their populations have never had a chance to vote whether they wanted to be part of the e.u
this has all been done over the heads of the people (coming to a continent near you)

shit is shocking, even more so the mainstream media, dont show us any other way.. the cash / fiat / debt based system is DEAD.

its so dead, that the elite are confiscating equity (real wealth) ie. land, they now own greece.. lol so much so.. the hedge funds are suing the greek public in the european human rights court.. LOLOLOLOL

this shit is more fucked up than any fictitious work of creative writing...


im with the people of greece. having your sovereignty sold out, with no say..

is this the world the ignorant(apathetic) fucks that make up the mass population of the world want?

EskDpnrBLBM

Soul Controller
02-13-2012, 03:45 PM
funny how this new world order police force.. is the same all over the world..

they attend peaceful protests in full body gear,,
and are the ones who commit the 1st acts of violence against the peaceful protesters, then they retort with extreme violence..

lol at the fools who still support the police state..

UZsdJV-U-lY

etze
02-13-2012, 04:28 PM
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thats the headquarters of some major greek newspapers
the spray paint says "you are finished"

Soul Controller
02-27-2012, 01:21 PM
couple of days old sorry, from zerohedge.com

Anonymous Hacks Greek Ministry Website, Demands IMF Withdrawal, Threatens It Will Wipe Away All Citizen Debts

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 02/21/2012 18:31 -0500

If there is one war that Greece could not afford to join, that is with the global computer hacking collective known as Anonymous. Yet as of minutes ago, that is precisley what happened, after Anonymous, as part of what it now calls Operation Greece, took down the Greek Ministry of Justice (http://www.ministryofjustice.gr (http://www.ministryofjustice.gr/)/). While the pretext for the hacking appears to have been an arrest of the wrong people, is seems to have angered Anonymous to the point where they have left an extended message of demands on the Greek website, warning that unless the IMF withdraws from the country and the government resigns, all debts of Greek citizens will be wiped clean.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/01/Greek%20MOJ.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/01/Greek%20MOJ.jpg)
Translated from the Greek:
Citizens of Greece
We are Anonymous.
We watch every day your government abolishes the constitution and institutions of the country.
We see them leading you closer and closer to poverty.
We see them pass laws that deprive you of any right to dignity.
We see them and deliver the country to the IMF and the bankers.
We know about the soup kitchens in schools,
for people who are left jobless and now wait in queues for a plate of food.
We know that your country voted ACTA in your effort to silence and other Greeks.
We know everything ...
The Republic in Greece has died.
He died while a government that has not been elected by the people.
And for this reason that the time for discussion came and went.
Not negotiating anything with any of those who murdered him.
Can you hunt as you like, you can even capture some of us,
When you attempt to silence us ...
But for every one that will capture 3 others will spring up. There are 5 or 10 or 100.
Now the Greeks are all Anonymous.
We are millions against you and the 300 in this war tear gas will not help you.
Occupying Government of Greece
These days are going to vote for a bill that will be the last nail in the coffin of the Greek.
A bill to return the country to a totalitarian rule.
To bring the country and its people in absolute poverty.
We will not allow another misery to the Greek people.
We demand your resignation immediately, and elections.
We demand not paid a cent to moneylenders 'friends' you.
We demand the immediate withdrawal of the IMF from Greece.
The Justice Department was only a small sample of what we're capable of doing
Even you have not seen the full wrath of Anonymous.
For each article of a bill that would shame the vote,
we will shut the system and deleting an Inland Revenue debts of Greek citizens
Debts which requires them to fascist pay.
Can the demonstrations of the Greeks to their encounter with incredible violence,
anexelekta hitting, but the internet is our field. And I love this war.
We are many and we will be brief.
Citizens of Greece, Anonymous is now fighting on your side ...
Government of Greece, let us wait ...

E X P E C T U S !
J U S T I C E I S C O M I N G!


















By my understanding, the internet is the free market,.



anonymous are threatening to do what teh financiers should be doing. debt jubilee..
and restart the system and make accountable..


everyone should check their local pirate parties :D

Soul Controller
05-06-2012, 04:29 PM
bumpage


27 Statistics About The European Economic Crisis That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe


http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/This-Is-What-An-Economic-Depression-Looks-Like-In-The-21st-Century-250x164.jpg (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/27-statistics-about-the-european-economic-crisis-that-are-almost-too-crazy-to-believe/this-is-what-an-economic-depression-looks-like-in-the-21st-century-2)The economic crisis in Europe continues to get worse and eventually it is going to unravel into a complete economic nightmare. All over Europe, national governments have piled up debts that are completely unsustainable. But whenever they start significantly cutting government spending it results in an economic slowdown. So politicians in Europe are really caught between a rock and a hard place. They can't keep racking up these unsustainable debts, but if they continue to cut government spending it is going to push their economies into deep recession and their populations will riot. Greece is a perfect example of this. Greece has been going down the austerity road for several years now and they are experiencing a full-blown economic depression, riots have become a way of life in that country and their national budget is still not anywhere close to balanced. Americans should pay close attention to what is going on in Europe, because this is what it looks like when a debt party ends. Most of the nations in the eurozone have just started implementing austerity, and yet unemployment in the eurozone is already the highest it has been since the euro was introduced. It has risen for 10 months in a row and is now up to 10.8 percent (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/02/us-eurozone-unemployment-idUSBRE8310CQ20120402). Sadly, it is going to go even higher. As economies across Europe slide into recession, that is going to put even more pressure on the European financial system. Most Americans do not realize this, but the European banking system is absolutely enormous. It is nearly four times (http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-15-11/europe-will-collapse-may-june?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedg e+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+fo r+everyone+drops+to+zero%29&utm_content=Google+Reader) the size that the U.S. banking system is. When the European banking system crashes (and it will) it is going to reverberate around the globe. The epicenter of the next great financial crisis is going to be in Europe, and it is getting closer with each passing day.
The following are 27 statistics about the European economic crisis that are almost too crazy to believe....
Greece
#1 The Greek economy shrank by 6 percent (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/business/global/grim-economic-forecast-for-greece-as-it-negotiates-with-creditors.html) during 2011, and it has been shrinking for five years in a row (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/apr/09/portugal-banks-ecb-record-funding).
#2 The average unemployment rate in Greece in 2010 was 12.5 percent. During 2011, the average unemployment rate was 17.3 percent (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/03/08/us-greece-unemployment-idUKBRE8270GX20120308), and now the unemployment rate in Greece is up to 21.8 percent (http://news.yahoo.com/greek-unemployment-hits-21-8-percent-113408813.html).
#3 The youth unemployment rate in Greece is now over 50 percent (http://alphanow.thomsonreuters.com/2012/04/spain-emerges-as-leading-candidate-for-next-eurozone-domino/).
#4 The unemployment rate in the port town is Perama is about 60 percent (http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2012/04/01/perama-greece-and-example-of-when-bankers-win-60-unemployment-poverty-starvation/).
#5 In Greece, 20 percent (http://www.businessinsider.com/greece-is-looking-more-and-more-like-a-collapsed-society-2012-1) of all retail stores have closed down during the economic crisis.
#6 Greece now has a debt to GDP ratio of approximately 160 percent (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/european/spains-rapid-descent-into-crisis-raises-spectre-of-troika-bailout/article2391076/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Report%20On%20Business&utm_content=2391076).
#7 Some of the austerity measures that have been implemented in Greece have been absolutely brutal. For example, Greek civil servants have had their incomes slashed by about 40 percent (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/16/world/europe/europe-now-doubts-that-greece-can-embrace-reform.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1) since 2010.
#8 Despite all of the austerity measures, it is being projected that Greece will still have a budget deficit equivalent to 7 percent of GDP (http://alphanow.thomsonreuters.com/2012/04/spain-emerges-as-leading-candidate-for-next-eurozone-domino/) in 2012.
#9 Greece is still facing unfunded liabilities in future years that are equivalent to approximately 800 percent of GDP (http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-15-11/europe-will-collapse-may-june?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedg e+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+fo r+everyone+drops+to+zero%29&utm_content=Google+Reader).
#10 In the midst of all the poverty in Greece, several serious diseases are making a major comeback. The following comes from a recent article in the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2012/mar/15/greece-breadline-hiv-malaria)....
Spain
#11 The unemployment rate in Spain is now up to 23.6 percent (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/9196551/Spains-lose-lose-struggle-reignites-euro-crisis.html).
#12 The youth unemployment rate in Spain is now over 50 percent (http://alphanow.thomsonreuters.com/2012/04/spain-emerges-as-leading-candidate-for-next-eurozone-domino/).
#13 The total value of all toxic loans in Spain is equivalent to approximately 13 percent (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/european/spains-rapid-descent-into-crisis-raises-spectre-of-troika-bailout/article2391076/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Report%20On%20Business&utm_content=2391076) of Spanish GDP.
#14 The GDP of Spain is about 1.4 trillion dollars (http://www.cnbc.com//id/47008853). The three largest Spanish banks have approximately 2.7 trillion dollars (http://www.cnbc.com//id/47008853) in assets and they are all on the verge of failing.
#15 Home prices in Spain fell by 11.2 percent (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17378665) during 2011.
#16 The number of property repossessions in Spain rose by 32 percent (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-16754600) during 2011.
#17 The ratio of government debt to GDP in Spain will rise by more than 11 percent (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/european/spains-rapid-descent-into-crisis-raises-spectre-of-troika-bailout/article2391076/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Report%20On%20Business&utm_content=2391076) during 2012.
#18 On top of everything else, Spain is dealing with the worst drought it has seen in 70 years (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1146764--spain-portugal-face-worst-drought-in-70-years).
Portugal
#19 The unemployment rate in Portugal is up to 15 percent (http://alphanow.thomsonreuters.com/2012/04/spain-emerges-as-leading-candidate-for-next-eurozone-domino/).
#20 The youth unemployment rate in Portugal is now over 35 percent (http://alphanow.thomsonreuters.com/2012/04/spain-emerges-as-leading-candidate-for-next-eurozone-domino/).
#21 Banks in Portugal borrowed a record 56.3 billion euros (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/apr/09/portugal-banks-ecb-record-funding) from the European Central Bank in March.
#22 It is being projected that the Portuguese economy will shrink by 5.7 percent (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9042963/Investors-fear-mounting-losses-in-Portugal-as-second-rescue-looms.html) during 2012.
#23 When you add up all forms of debt in Portugal (government, business and consumer) the total is equivalent to approximately 360 percent (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9042963/Investors-fear-mounting-losses-in-Portugal-as-second-rescue-looms.html) of GDP.
Italy
#24 Youth unemployment in Italy is up to 31.9 percent (http://alphanow.thomsonreuters.com/2012/04/spain-emerges-as-leading-candidate-for-next-eurozone-domino/) - the highest level ever.
#25 Italy's national debt is approximately 2.7 times larger (http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/09/markets/bondcenter/italy_bond_yields/index.htm?iid=HP_LN) than the national debts of Greece, Ireland and Portugal put together.
#26 If you add the maturing debt that the Italian government must roll over in 2012 to the projected budget deficit, it comes to approximately 23.1 percent (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/warning-signs-that-we-should-prepare-for-the-worst) of Italy's GDP.
#27 Italy now has a debt to GDP ratio of approximately 120 percent (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/european/spains-rapid-descent-into-crisis-raises-spectre-of-troika-bailout/article2391076/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Report%20On%20Business&utm_content=2391076).
So why hasn't Europe crashed already?
Well, the powers that be are pulling out all their tricks.
For example, the European Central Bank decided to start loaning gigantic mountains of money to European banks. That accomplished two things....
1) It kept those European banks from collapsing.
2) European banks used that money to buy up sovereign bonds and that kept interest rates down.
Unfortunately, all of this game playing has also put the European Central Bank in a very vulnerable position.
The balance sheet of the European Central Bank has expanded by more than 1 trillion dollars (http://gainspainscapital.com/?p=1622) over the past nine months. The balance sheet of the European Central Bank is now larger than the entire GDP of Germany and the ECB is now leveraged 36 to 1.
So just how far can you stretch the rubberband before it snaps?
Perhaps we are about to find out.
The European financial system is leveraged like crazy right now. Even banking systems in countries that you think of as "stable" are leveraged to extremes.
For example, major German banks are leveraged 32 to 1 (http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/20/europes-sickly-banks/?iid=HP_LN), and those banks are holding a massive amount of European sovereign debt.
When Lehman Brothers finally collapsed, it was only leveraged 30 to 1 (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/20-economic-statistics-to-use-to-wake-sheeple-up-from-their-entertainment-induced-comas).
You can't solve a debt crisis with more debt. But the European Central Bank has been able to use more debt to kick the can down the road a few more months.
At some point the sovereign debt bubble is going to burst.
All financial bubbles eventually burst.
What goes up must come down.
Right now, the major industrialized nations of the world are approximately 55 trillion dollars (http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,806772,00.html) in debt.
It has been a fun ride, but this fraudulent pyramid of risk, debt and leverage is going to come crashing down at some point.
It is only a matter of time.
Already, there are a whole bunch of signs that some very serious economic trouble (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/19-signs-of-very-serious-economic-trouble-on-the-horizon) is on the horizon.
Hopefully we still have a few more months until it hits.
But in this day and age nothing is guaranteed.
What does seem abundantly clear is that the current global financial system is inevitably going to fail.
When it does, what "solutions" will our leaders try to impose upon us?
That is something to think about.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/27-statistics-about-the-european-economic-crisis-that-are-almost-too-crazy-to-believe