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check two
07-12-2011, 05:20 PM
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--Should parents lose custody of super obese kids?

CHICAGO (AP) Should parents of extremely obese children lose custody for not controlling their kids' weight? A provocative commentary in one of the nation's most distinguished medical journals argues yes, and its authors are joining a quiet chorus of advocates who say the government should be allowed to intervene in extreme cases.

It has happened a few times in the U.S., and the opinion piece in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association says putting children temporarily in foster care is in some cases more ethical than obesity surgery.

Dr. David Ludwig, an obesity specialist at Harvard-affiliated Children's Hospital Boston, said the point isn't to blame parents, but rather to act in children's best interest and get them help that for whatever reason their parents can't provide.

State intervention "ideally will support not just the child but the whole family, with the goal of reuniting child and family as soon as possible. That may require instruction on parenting," said Ludwig, who wrote the article with Lindsey Murtagh, a lawyer and a researcher at Harvard's School of Public Health.

"Despite the discomfort posed by state intervention, it may sometimes be necessary to protect a child," Murtagh said.

But University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Art Caplan said he worries that the debate risks putting too much blame on parents. Obese children are victims of advertising, marketing, peer pressure and bullying things a parent can't control, he said.

"If you're going to change a child's weight, you're going to have to change all of them," Caplan said.

Roughly 2 million U.S. children are extremely obese. Most are not in imminent danger, Ludwig said. But some have obesity-related conditions such as Type 2 diabetes, breathing difficulties and liver problems that could kill them by age 30. It is these kids for whom state intervention, including education, parent training, and temporary protective custody in the most extreme cases, should be considered, Ludwig said.

While some doctors promote weight-loss surgery for severely obese teens, Ludwig said it hasn't been used for very long in adolescents and can have serious, sometimes life-threatening complications.

"We don't know the long-term safety and effectiveness of these procedures done at an early age," he said.

Ludwig said he starting thinking about the issue after a 90-pound 3-year-old girl came to his obesity clinic several years ago. Her parents had physical disabilities, little money and difficulty controlling her weight. Last year, at age 12, she weighed 400 pounds and had developed diabetes, cholesterol problems, high blood pressure and sleep apnea.

"Out of medical concern, the state placed this girl in foster care, where she simply received three balanced meals a day and a snack or two and moderate physical activity," he said. After a year, she lost 130 pounds. Though she is still obese, her diabetes and apnea disappeared; she remains in foster care, he said.

In a commentary in the medical journal BMJ last year, London pediatrician Dr. Russell Viner and colleagues said obesity was a factor in several child protection cases in Britain. They argued that child protection services should be considered if parents are neglectful or actively reject efforts to control an extremely obese child's weight.

A 2009 opinion article in Pediatrics made similar arguments. Its authors said temporary removal from the home would be warranted "when all reasonable alternative options have been exhausted."

That piece discussed a 440-pound 16-year-old girl who developed breathing problems from excess weight and nearly died at a University of Wisconsin hospital. Doctors discussed whether to report her family for neglect. But they didn't need to, because her medical crisis "was a wake-up call" for her family, and the girl ended up losing about 100 pounds, said co-author Dr. Norman Fost, a medical ethicist at the university's Madison campus.

State intervention in obesity "doesn't necessarily involve new legal requirements," Ludwig said. Health care providers are required to report children who are at immediate risk, and that can be for a variety of reasons, including neglect, abuse and what doctors call "failure to thrive." That's when children are severely underweight.

Jerri Gray, a Greenville, S.C., single mother who lost custody of her 555-pound 14-year-old son two years ago, said authorities don't understand the challenges families may face in trying to control their kids' weight.

"I was always working two jobs so we wouldn't end up living in ghettos," Gray said. She said she often didn't have time to cook, so she would buy her son fast food. She said she asked doctors for help for her son's big appetite but was accused of neglect.

Her sister has custody of the boy, now 16. The sister has the money to help him with a special diet and exercise, and the boy has lost more than 200 pounds, Gray said.

"Even though good has come out of this as far as him losing weight, he told me just last week, 'Mommy, I want to be back with you so bad.' They've done damage by pulling us apart," Gray said.

Stormy Bradley, an Atlanta mother whose overweight 14-year-old daughter is participating in a Georgia advocacy group's "Stop Childhood Obesity" campaign, said she sympathizes with families facing legal action because of their kids' weight.

Healthier food often costs more, and trying to monitor kids' weight can be difficult, especially when they reach their teens and shun parental control, Bradley said. But taking youngsters away from their parents "definitely seems too extreme," she said.

Dr. Lainie Ross, a medical ethicist at the University of Chicago, said: "There's a stigma with state intervention. We just have to do it with caution and humility and make sure we really can say that our interventions are going to do more good than harm."

-http://news.yahoo.com/parents-lose-custody-super-obese-kids-200342454.html

Dokuro
07-12-2011, 06:52 PM
yeah that works take the kids out of over loving homes and put them in fostercare

check two
07-12-2011, 07:00 PM
lol @ 'over loving'

PANDA PISS
07-12-2011, 07:25 PM
Haha. Government agencies have all the solutions. 'Its the parents fault' the fuck it is, fat kids are gonna be fat. Bet you they go to a new house and continue throwing donuts down their throats.

Rather than target the fast food joints advertising unhealthy food to kids. cos its a billion dollar industry and they're all on payola.

Lex Lugor
07-12-2011, 08:35 PM
LOL@ blaming mickdonalds for their food being too tasty. You rebel, you.

Its pretty much all the parents fault.
Whether you can only afford dollar menu for dinner, because your a broke ass hoe, or because you cant deny your baby his number six with the xtra large moon box fries and soda when he/she stamps her/his kankled little feet.:(W

GZAjector
07-12-2011, 10:00 PM
i saw the opposite earlier today at mcdonalds.

these 2 fat lazy fucks threw all this change on the counter and asked HOW MUCH IT WAS and WHAT COULD THEY GET FOR IT?
anyways, they had a really skinny kid with them, kid looked like was 6 or 7, like 30 pounds.



so the cashier is counting out the change for these obese shitheads, (and i know they knew how to count, you don't get that rotund by not knowing how much money you have for food, they were just lazy fat assholes)
and the kid grabbed a nickle off the counter and stuck it in the ronald mcdonald house donation jar. the fat cunt fucking screams on him, saying that that 5 cents could have been the difference in how much food she could get, swear to god. i wanted to bash this bitches face in.




the bitch ends up ordering a 20 piece nugget and wolfed them shits down in like 20 seconds. the kid got 1 fucking nugget. 1 nugget. i was sitting there watching them, like it some fucked up national geographic special on wild animals. the kid was clearly hungry as fuck. shit was pathetic, i'm never going back to mcdonalds, i only went because they had strawberry shortcake happy meal and my daughter wanted the toy. funny thing is i ended up eating her cheeseburger.

check two
07-13-2011, 12:08 AM
I was wondering how fat the parents are of that real big fat baby named Jamiroquai, that was born recently? I think it was like 16 pounds or something. I'm figuring the parents must be fat and ugly.

Dokuro
07-13-2011, 01:18 AM
i saw the opposite earlier today at mcdonalds.

these 2 fat lazy fucks threw all this change on the counter and asked HOW MUCH IT WAS and WHAT COULD THEY GET FOR IT?
anyways, they had a really skinny kid with them, kid looked like was 6 or 7, like 30 pounds.



so the cashier is counting out the change for these obese shitheads, (and i know they knew how to count, you don't get that rotund by not knowing how much money you have for food, they were just lazy fat assholes)
and the kid grabbed a nickle off the counter and stuck it in the ronald mcdonald house donation jar. the fat cunt fucking screams on him, saying that that 5 cents could have been the difference in how much food she could get, swear to god. i wanted to bash this bitches face in.




the bitch ends up ordering a 20 piece nugget and wolfed them shits down in like 20 seconds. the kid got 1 fucking nugget. 1 nugget. i was sitting there watching them, like it some fucked up national geographic special on wild animals. the kid was clearly hungry as fuck. shit was pathetic, i'm never going back to mcdonalds, i only went because they had strawberry shortcake happy meal and my daughter wanted the toy. funny thing is i ended up eating her cheeseburger.

fuck i yell at the kid to for giving to charity that's only making matters worse and postponing the inevitable

fuckin charity is a joke

TheBoarzHeadBoy
07-13-2011, 04:53 AM
Obesity=Dying Young

It's neglect bordering on abuse. Charge them with it. The inability to parent is a crime against society. It's not fair that these kids are going to lead shitty lives and die of a heart attack at 20. All we have is our good health and our family have to help us stay healthy. It's too easy to make yourself sick. I'm not overweight, but my bad diet and general lack of exercise has thanks to how i happen to be wired, given me an anxiety disorder.

It's going away gradually, but it was fucking with my life. I can't even comprehend how bad a 550 pound kid must feel.

RADIOACTIVE MAN
07-13-2011, 02:17 PM
just send their daughters to me when they past the age of 18 and we good

IrOnMaN
07-13-2011, 02:50 PM
Unfortunately, fat kids grow up to be fat lazy adults, then they have fat kids. The cycle of obesity repeats and repeats. Now in 2011 (Only in America), obesity is considered a damn disability. Fat lazy people can either choose to work or collect a SSI check. Which one do you think that they'll choose? The answer is obvious.

Fat people are truly disgusting in every since of the word.

WARPATH
07-13-2011, 03:03 PM
http://planetill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/precious.jpg

IrOnMaN
07-13-2011, 03:13 PM
^^Precious was so good that I hate it. Like 127 hours and District 9, I don't want to them again. They have some hard truths in them.

WARPATH
07-13-2011, 03:19 PM
^^Precious was so good that I hate it. Like 127 hours and District 9, I don't want to them again. They have some hard truths in them.

^^ Beats off to dancing Precious.

http://www.bokeen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/precious_dancing_fantasy_scene.jpg

HARD TRUTH.

IrOnMaN
07-13-2011, 03:22 PM
^Why do you think that? I personally thought it was a good movie. Very well written and very well directed. I've only watched it once. There's no need to make a joke out of it.

WARPATH
07-13-2011, 04:01 PM
I'm not judging you player.

check two
07-13-2011, 04:06 PM
What is the plot of the movie about? Her eating half gallon after half gallon of mint chocolate chip ice cream the whole movie?

Frank Sobotka
07-13-2011, 05:42 PM
This is an extremely random and especially dumb idea but it would be interesting to see the government pull weight into the text debate.
Fatties must pay more tax so they have less money to spend on food they shouldn't be eating.

EAGLE EYE
07-16-2011, 05:04 PM
I dont think most kids would care to lose their parents and here's why..


http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnpn5aKXig1qzado8o1_500.jpg