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Claustrofobic
10-24-2005, 06:42 PM
For some time now im stuck with a question...

Im wondering how RZA thinks about white people who are Wu-Tang fans themself, and have read the Wu-Tang Manual and have learned and studied about the 5% Nation and The Supreme Mathematics, and how it says that the Black Man is original man of Planet Earth, Black People are the fathers and mothers of civilazation etcetera.....

Now I know the Wu-Tang respects their white fans from all over the world, but what does he expect the white people that respect wu-tang to think of this study, and how the white man can never be part of the 5% Nation?

Does this also mean white people can never be teached the 120 or count in the 9 basic tennets of The Nation of Gods and Earth?

I was also wondering how other Wu-Tang fans on here (Im intrested in comments from both black AND white people)

P.S Im white myself, thats why I would like answers,

Peace

Os3y3ris
10-24-2005, 06:52 PM
Whites can be five percenters actually.

SubtleEnergies
10-24-2005, 07:52 PM
You know what he thinks if you read the Wu tang manual. He moved beyond his past views. He still maintains the black man's supremacy, but at the same time his divinity means that they don't mistreat white people.

He gave the analogy of The Planet of the Apes to explain it. They can't see the white man's behaviour as bad and then in turn respond with bad behaviour.

Golden_Armz
10-24-2005, 08:56 PM
his divinity means that they don't mistreat white people.

His "divinity"....damn i didnt know your skin colour makes you divine?

yall ever heard of Darwinism and the evil it created?

Big Risk
10-24-2005, 09:21 PM
Jews are the real 85%ers.

Kephrem
10-24-2005, 10:34 PM
Jews are the real 85%ers.

Like who, Hell Razah??

Queen Of Poetry
10-25-2005, 08:14 AM
OK......as stated previously white people can be of the 5%......Clarence actually taught a white man.......I am unclear why white folks think that they could never be of the 5% or that the Nation thinks they r devils......I understand that on the surface it may seem this way, but if u read more into it.....u'll see what the Nation is all about.

Decipha Born
10-25-2005, 08:21 AM
He still maintains the black man's supremacy, but at the same time his divinity means that they don't mistreat white people.

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Tru indeed. It is a responsibility.

KBA7
10-25-2005, 10:54 AM
His "divinity"....damn i didnt know your skin colour makes you divine?

Its about more than "skin colour".

Soul Controller
10-25-2005, 11:24 AM
lol at this thread.

knowing some1 is the devil

does not mean, u cant work rest or play with them,

always be aware

i know thats hard for most whites to accept but thats what is meant.

i have many white peopls who i chill with.. and they know and see how i see the world..
u just need to be able to accept, stuff that goes against ur indoctrined belief system,(s)

jews are real 85'ers lol fucking idiot.

id say. most jews are not jews.. they are khazars khazarians/azkhanaaiz's
they convered to judiasm..
and most jews genes come from them tribes.. how do u become a jew? lol


and the black man is not superior

he is dominant

again that goes to genes..

so dont get ur panties in ur twist!!

peace

Claustrofobic
10-25-2005, 05:13 PM
lol at this thread.

knowing some1 is the devil

does not mean, u cant work rest or play with them,

always be aware

i know thats hard for most whites to accept but thats what is meant.

i have many white peopls who i chill with.. and they know and see how i see the world..
u just need to be able to accept, stuff that goes against ur indoctrined belief system,(s)

jews are real 85'ers lol fucking idiot.

id say. most jews are not jews.. they are khazars khazarians/azkhanaaiz's
they convered to judiasm..
and most jews genes come from them tribes.. how do u become a jew? lol


and the black man is not superior

he is dominant

again that goes to genes..

so dont get ur panties in ur twist!!

peace
dont I dont understand a word of what u just said

Shemsu Elohim
10-25-2005, 05:15 PM
lol! at this thread too.

SubtleEnergies
10-25-2005, 06:10 PM
Golden Armz that was RZAs view not mine.

Pax17
10-25-2005, 09:42 PM
Peace

This is the God Yasir.

I always see sooo many posts on this website about the NGE, supreme mathematics, 5%, and so on. Because of this it is quite obvious that this nation is interesting, and people are attracted to it postively or negatively. This shows how powerful this knowledge is. I don't post in here although I did want to take this opportunity to just dispell some of the misconceptions about our nation.

WE ARE NOT ANTI-WHITE NOR PRO-BLACK, WE ARE ANTI-DEVILISHMENT & PRO-RIGHTEOUSNESS!

When we say devil we are speaking of a person with a devilish mind state and manifests that into devilish action. That can be a white or black person. In our lessons it does state that the whiteman is the devil and I do stand by that 100%. It's NOT just because he is white it's his actions that make him devil! If he where purple then the purple man would be devil. The atrocities that the white man has done against the original people of this planet to satisfy his greed and desire for world domination is unprecedented! It's in YOUR history books so do not deny it.

Now can white people be a part of this nation, most definitely! The Father taught a caucasian by the name of Azreal who is still around today. For those white people on this board who are sincerely interested in this nation I am sure some God or Earth would be willing to build with you. My time is limited so I would rather devote it to my people who are more in need of this knowledge than you are. It is only common sense for our focus to be more geared to the group of people of which we are a part of.

The black man is the original man, and we are dominant! You can find proof of our MENTAL dominance by studying the kemetians, ethiopians, and the moors. You can see our PHYSICAL dominance by watching sports. This is not racist, or any type of black supremacy talk, just truth, and don't believe me either, DO THE KNOWLEDGE FOR YOURSELF! The more I study I am even more convinced the black man is God.

We are not about causing trouble or disrespecting ANYBODY, and we are NOT all thugs, gangbangers, weed smokers, drug addicts, as some of these rappers and some of these jive pretenders will make you think. I for example have NEVER done any drugs, never smoked ANYTHING, drink very rarely, and graduated from a University in 4 years (which is rare nowadays), have a corporate job, I am starting to get into real estate, and I am wisdom understanding (23). We are only about the upliftment of our people and striving to be productive citizens.

Hopefully this helped clear up some things about our nation, if not well the NGE know what the lessons say about the 85% they are easily led in the wrong direction and hard to lead in the right. And for those white people on this board that don't want to believe that the RZA is a part of this nation look at what he always wears around his neck that is OUR universal flag! Also his name is from our supreme alpahbet Ruler Zig Zag Zig Allah!

Peace.

Aqueous Moon
10-25-2005, 09:50 PM
Peace
Well said God,
You expressed your self perfectly.
Aqueous Moon
Peace

KidSha
10-25-2005, 10:33 PM
Hmm ,not being 5% and non original, but this is how the God broke it down to me, the original man is the original devil, the word DEVIL dose not describe a white man, a devil is a human being with a corrupted mind.

According to the science it was YAKUB that created the non-original race, which makes him the first original devil, and then the corruption of the mind followed from new life being born without getting thought.

Pax17 put it very well

Peace, always willing to build on this.

Kado
10-25-2005, 10:58 PM
I got questions....
Is it against the ways of the 5% to smoke weed?black, white, spanish, chinese and any other nationality can be 5%? if you aint 100% black but 50% black..are you still considered a 7? And if you aint black at all, is it saying you have to bow down to blacks? Just curious...

Malcom Guevera
10-27-2005, 09:56 AM
The 120 lessons are used as stepping stones to get to other levels, Most gods i know today have graduated onto other things......................Dont get caught up in the illusion of GOD THIS, DEVIL THAT, because that is just hatred and weakness on your part. Enlightment is about happiness and love and most inportant, the future generation that you created.

K.E.G.
10-27-2005, 10:40 AM
for many mesianic groups, herb is strongly tied as part of the culture.
it is the ABUSE of weed smoking that declares one's use "poisoning."
I will love to "meditate" on weed 'til I die, even if I can't get my paws on it.

Personally, i am a mutt. I'm white, my grandmother, (father's mother) was Philippine who married an Irish man. It is my mother's family that is completely UV irritant. My irish imported name "Gaghan" is only 3rd generation American, making me reletively new as a "tribe" if you will. its interesting because as white as that abusive bastard was to my grandmother all her kids complexions were much deeper in tone. Interesting to say this, but I get like a chameleon when summer hits.
With all that shared knowledge aside. The key for everyone is to be successful - wise - courteous - loyal. By doing so you tune out being discriminate, hateful, and unjust.

Yes, most of us know RZA rocks the 7 and the Sun with 1,000 beams of light
If you step in a room full of people as a star, you will shine like one no matter who the person be. its believing in the power of man. Power of greatness - Power of negativity, and which path you will go spiritually.
Become indestructable with devices out of your thinking.

Malcom Guevera
10-27-2005, 11:51 AM
Personally, i am a mutt. I'm white, my grandmother, (father's mother) was Philippine who married an Irish man. It is my mother's family that is completely UV irritant. My irish imported name "Gaghan" is only 3rd generation American, making me reletively new as a "tribe" if you will. its interesting because as white as that abusive bastard was to my grandmother all her kids complexions were much deeper in tone. Interesting to say this, but I get like a chameleon when summer hits.

You always trace your bloodline threw the woman. Her chromosones dominate the seed.

K.E.G.
10-28-2005, 07:36 AM
Which is why I get reptilian. Thank you for sharing. I remember learning that and hope to one day create an authentic family tree because no one has attempted yet.

Malcom Guevera
10-28-2005, 09:27 AM
Which is why I get reptilian. Thank you for sharing. I remember learning that and hope to one day create an authentic family tree because no one has attempted yet.
Word ? do that kid, all power to you, im puerto rican and traced my family to the original seed, pure. People have such rich history but lack the proper education to really make any progress that can uplift them, you know what im sayin ?

venex
10-30-2005, 08:28 AM
I got questions....
Is it against the ways of the 5% to smoke weed?black, white, spanish, chinese and any other nationality can be 5%? if you aint 100% black but 50% black..are you still considered a 7? And if you aint black at all, is it saying you have to bow down to blacks? Just curious...
I believe in the teachings of the 5% and I am white AND I do smoke weed!

my point of view is... you got to do the knowledge for yourself!

in my opinion you DON'T need to know the 120 out your head... i read them, I understand them, but I don't learn them!!!

you don't have to agree with everything they say, it's not because you are a 5%er you have to believe EVERYTHING they teach, there are also things wich I don't agree with...you aren't forced to believe everything!

In my opinion weed isn't bad for me, it won't make me think different (when i'm not high ofcourse), and i don't depend on weed... i can live without weed, but i do use it, for personal reasons...

peace!

Claustrofobic
10-31-2005, 03:07 PM
Peace and thanx for the serious reply's, imma build on this

Blackman414
11-01-2005, 08:57 AM
Peace

This is the God Yasir.

I always see sooo many posts on this website about the NGE, supreme mathematics, 5%, and so on. Because of this it is quite obvious that this nation is interesting, and people are attracted to it postively or negatively. This shows how powerful this knowledge is. I don't post in here although I did want to take this opportunity to just dispell some of the misconceptions about our nation.

WE ARE NOT ANTI-WHITE NOR PRO-BLACK, WE ARE ANTI-DEVILISHMENT & PRO-RIGHTEOUSNESS!

When we say devil we are speaking of a person with a devilish mind state and manifests that into devilish action. That can be a white or black person. In our lessons it does state that the whiteman is the devil and I do stand by that 100%. It's NOT just because he is white it's his actions that make him devil! If he where purple then the purple man would be devil. The atrocities that the white man has done against the original people of this planet to satisfy his greed and desire for world domination is unprecedented! It's in YOUR history books so do not deny it.

Now can white people be a part of this nation, most definitely! The Father taught a caucasian by the name of Azreal who is still around today. For those white people on this board who are sincerely interested in this nation I am sure some God or Earth would be willing to build with you. My time is limited so I would rather devote it to my people who are more in need of this knowledge than you are. It is only common sense for our focus to be more geared to the group of people of which we are a part of.

The black man is the original man, and we are dominant! You can find proof of our MENTAL dominance by studying the kemetians, ethiopians, and the moors. You can see our PHYSICAL dominance by watching sports. This is not racist, or any type of black supremacy talk, just truth, and don't believe me either, DO THE KNOWLEDGE FOR YOURSELF! The more I study I am even more convinced the black man is God.

We are not about causing trouble or disrespecting ANYBODY, and we are NOT all thugs, gangbangers, weed smokers, drug addicts, as some of these rappers and some of these jive pretenders will make you think. I for example have NEVER done any drugs, never smoked ANYTHING, drink very rarely, and graduated from a University in 4 years (which is rare nowadays), have a corporate job, I am starting to get into real estate, and I am wisdom understanding (23). We are only about the upliftment of our people and striving to be productive citizens.

Hopefully this helped clear up some things about our nation, if not well the NGE know what the lessons say about the 85% they are easily led in the wrong direction and hard to lead in the right. And for those white people on this board that don't want to believe that the RZA is a part of this nation look at what he always wears around his neck that is OUR universal flag! Also his name is from our supreme alpahbet Ruler Zig Zag Zig Allah!

Peace.
Peace.

Show and prove from the 120 lessons that the black man can be devil. I have been a part of the Nation of Gods and Earths (a.k.a 5%) for 8 years and i have yet to undertstand why certain individuals say that. There is a difference between being devil by nature and having devilsh actions. My email is freeway414@hotmail.com. Email me with your understanding on this matter. I leave as i came in peace.

True Self Peace Allah

LHX
11-01-2005, 10:45 AM
i need some new boots

this rainy whether is shit

Pax17
11-01-2005, 07:04 PM
Peace

I just sent you a private message in response to your question.

Pax17
11-01-2005, 07:05 PM
Peace to True Self Peace Allah

I just sent you a private message in response to your question.

Peace.

tajeco
11-03-2005, 04:52 AM
Mathematically, couldn't the 5% grow if all of us continue to gain knowledge. Maybe it will be 10%, 10%, 80%.

Aqueous Moon
11-03-2005, 07:16 AM
Peace

That is true if you look at it on a physical level.

But, you know how when you apply that supreme math to tha 5, 10, 85 you come up wit a whole different perspective.

Anyway, Good thing 5% turned into The Nation of Gods and Earths.

Queen Of Poetry
11-03-2005, 07:26 AM
Mathematically, couldn't the 5% grow if all of us continue to gain knowledge. Maybe it will be 10%, 10%, 80%.
Well.......the 5% is about having knowledge of self and the 85% is about being open minded but still having ur own ideas, beliefs, etc. I think the 85% grows more and more as people become open minded....but to say the 5% may grow......not sure about that one......u could be of the 5% but not actually be 5% (did I make sense?)

SENIkOne
11-03-2005, 08:24 PM
For some time now im stuck with a question...

Im wondering how RZA thinks about white people who are Wu-Tang fans themself, and have read the Wu-Tang Manual and have learned and studied about the 5% Nation and The Supreme Mathematics, and how it says that the Black Man is original man of Planet Earth, Black People are the fathers and mothers of civilazation etcetera.....

Now I know the Wu-Tang respects their white fans from all over the world, but what does he expect the white people that respect wu-tang to think of this study, and how the white man can never be part of the 5% Nation?

Does this also mean white people can never be teached the 120 or count in the 9 basic tennets of The Nation of Gods and Earth?

I was also wondering how other Wu-Tang fans on here (Im intrested in comments from both black AND white people)

P.S Im white myself, thats why I would like answers,

Peace
Im Light Skinned. but im MEXICAN, and i study the Science.

M.E.X.I.C.A.N.

Master, Equality, Unknown, Eye, Cee, Allah, Nation NOW END

PEACE!

Kado
11-04-2005, 12:38 AM
Yo I just wana kno point blank no sugar coated ways around the shit, do u have to be 100% black to be 5%,i was told by a 5% once that anything but a white nationality is original..so what if you are half black n half white, what then? I dont mean to be mean or nothin like that,but I dont want no opinions I want only a 5% to answer my question,Thank you

aismani
11-04-2005, 02:35 AM
everybody attachin the divination to a certain colour proves himself not to be worth honourable Clearance 13X s teachings and should dig into some else.whats the colour of the light?

EBONY and IVORY
PEACE TO THE GODS-FUCK ALL NOTSEE SCHMOCKS

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-04-2005, 02:49 AM
peace.

Anyone can study.....

very few live accordingly and apply.....

actually..within the 5%..there is an 85, 10, 5...and then there is the what I respectfully call the "true and living."

the Nation.., just like anyone with common sense or is pro-hueman....is not an advocate of the devil or any other negative sources of energy.


Truth be the foundation, though many get caught up fantasy land...instead of reality at times when it comes to studying.

there are savages with math, there are gods and earths with math, there are 85ers, 10 percenters with math.....etc..

there are alot of people out there who can't even UNDERSTAND or comprehend their know1edge...but can spit alot of facts.

there are folks who know 120 like the back of their hand, but couldn't really tell you who Gomar Oz Dubar really is...., in all reality...couldn't tell you WHAT/WHO ALLAH truly is.

I personally enjoy conversation with an open mind...or with an Elder, because of all the chaos.

PEACE

SubliminaLtha7thBorN

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-04-2005, 02:54 AM
peace.


aismani...

black is only a limited title in attempt to describe the original man/woman and his/her descendants

to be the original man, is to be hueman..homo sapien sapiens..scientifically speaking.

Don't get caught up in the "colour."
the light may be too bright for some to see...

peace..

SubliminaLtha7thBorN

Wamukota X
11-04-2005, 07:20 AM
Allah (God) is the author of color, that in itself makes it important. You can't just brush that off.

Born Ruler I
11-04-2005, 08:31 AM
Black light encompasses all waves- sonic, micro, gamma, and visible light (white light).

One

Wamukota X
11-04-2005, 02:13 PM
Black light encompasses all waves- sonic, micro, gamma, and visible light (white light).

One


I agree, before there was light there was nothing but a state of triple darkness.

Aqueous Moon
11-04-2005, 02:19 PM
Peace Wamukota X

that is the tightest sig I've seen so far!!!

keep dropping the 1

Peace

Wamukota X
11-04-2005, 02:50 PM
Peace Wamukota X

that is the tightest sig I've seen so far!!!

keep dropping the 1

Peace

One Love, Peace

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-04-2005, 06:12 PM
peace.


true indeed, regarding Allah being the author of color, that is peace and has to be respected.


...color itself...is fascinating....with regards to nature and wherever else it may present itself.


with regards to men, phenotypic infatuation is interesting..but can only get one so far in scientifc study...it is extremely minute, limited and practically insignificant when in comparison to the Genotype of the homo sapien sapiens. It is what's "inside" that determines the "outside." A globule of cells INside the womb of woman...is what we all are at one time...with dna and other cellular components/instruments that are vital for life.., cells divide..different things move off energy...embryonic development processes begin....and continue on.., the genetic information stored within these realms....gets alot deeper than...any phenotypic attribute..that is only a small result or manifestation of what is inside. I'm more interested in the content of the book..instead of its title.., just my opinion with all respect.


in other words, when it comes to studying and analyzing the genetic makeup of the original man, i'd be far more concerned and interested in his (our) genotypic attributes/qualities.


without the "genotype" of NATURE herself...the world would be a pretty DEAD and bland place.

3 is best
peace

SubliminaLtha7thBorN

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-04-2005, 06:19 PM
and...

peace to Born Ruler I....on his comments regarding black light.

valid.


peace

SubliminaLtha7thBorN

SENIkOne
11-04-2005, 10:09 PM
Peace to the Dumb Def And Blind! word is bond and nice thread, and the wise keep buildin'

Wamukota X
11-07-2005, 06:24 AM
peace.


true indeed, regarding Allah being the author of color, that is peace and has to be respected.


...color itself...is fascinating....with regards to nature and wherever else it may present itself.


with regards to men, phenotypic infatuation is interesting..but can only get one so far in scientifc study...it is extremely minute, limited and practically insignificant when in comparison to the Genotype of the homo sapien sapiens. It is what's "inside" that determines the "outside." A globule of cells INside the womb of woman...is what we all are at one time...with dna and other cellular components/instruments that are vital for life.., cells divide..different things move off energy...embryonic development processes begin....and continue on.., the genetic information stored within these realms....gets alot deeper than...any phenotypic attribute..that is only a small result or manifestation of what is inside. I'm more interested in the content of the book..instead of its title.., just my opinion with all respect.


in other words, when it comes to studying and analyzing the genetic makeup of the original man, i'd be far more concerned and interested in his (our) genotypic attributes/qualities.


without the "genotype" of NATURE herself...the world would be a pretty DEAD and bland place.

3 is best
peace

SubliminaLtha7thBorN
Peace,

I respect your response. But I want to add to it. In an experiment I did with the Fruit fly we started with 8 Fruit flies. Four of them being male with Red eyes and curved wip tips and the other four being female with white eyes and with normal wing tips. After breeding the fruit flies produced various eye colors and different patterns of wing formation. Some of the eyes were colored red, white, black and some of the wings were curved, normal, and notched. With all this being said Genotype is important most definitely. But the Phenotype is like a window that shows you what type of genes are housed inside specific organisms. Granted we are not on the level of Fruit flies but the molecular science of Genetics
can be seen in people also. The Quran states that Allah created all things in pairs this may be true here, Genotype cannot exist without Phenotype.

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-07-2005, 09:41 PM
peace.

"genotype cannot exist without the phenotype."
actually it's the opposite way around, if you didn't have a genotype....lol, who knows what you even look like?? lol...would you even exist in a sense?

with regards to the genotype and the phenotype., u must overstand that the genotype is the blueprint for all manifestations of the human body...., and in this case...including the phenotype.

in response to the fruit fly experiment, I have seen it as well. The physical characteristics are all fine and dandy...and all they are is a minor reflection of one of the MANY that the genotype generates.


"But the Phenotype is like a window that shows you what type of genes are housed inside specific organisms. "

actually that is only true to a certain extent., well..actually it can be wrong. The phenotype can actually be very misleading..never think for 1 SECOND of your life..that the physical makeup of a human...is A FACTOR that completely reveals the internal genes within a human.


i.e.: in reference to black people, you may have a "brown skinned" person..and a "yellow skinned" one. You look at the both of them..and may think for a second or believe it to be true that the "brown skinned" person is in all reality "more black" or has a higher concentration of "blackness" or "black genes" within him or her due to their skin color. This MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE CASE. In fact, that yellow seed GENETICALLY...could be "BLACKER" than the brown seed!!!! And this is DETERMINED BY...looking into the genotype..which does not lie..nor is MISLEADING. So don't fool yourself, looks can be deceiving.., and for the record.., I do know of many cases..as the scenario I described above.

only here in america, people really can't grasp the different ways, shapes, and colours Black people come in...so DIVERSE.....

regardless..Black is Black, all of its phenotypic manifestations related to skin colour....are beautiful to me...., but most importantly..Black is Black.
Original Man (MEN) covered the spectrum...best believe it., and they were all genetically 100% BLACK.


respecting ya thoughts Wamukotax,

peace

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

Wamukota X
11-08-2005, 06:50 AM
Peace,

I agree 100%.

Blackman414
11-08-2005, 10:27 PM
Peace PAX 17

I Have Responded To Your Build.....again Thank You For Sharing Your Understanding. Peace To The Gods And Earths

Blackman414
11-09-2005, 08:41 AM
The Father Allah is the one who taught Azeral..not Clarence 13x.....why not use the name that shows and proves that he was God and because of him bringing knowlege of self of who God really is to those who were forgotten. I don't know anyone in the Nation of Gods and Earths who calls the Father Allah Clarence 13x. He helped draw us as a nation to our fullest equality so why do some of us keep him below our fullest equality by calling him Clarence 13x. He is my Father because he is Allah the Original Blackman, God of the Universe, not because he is Clarence 13x. I don't come in an cold current so don't take it as such. Just sharing some of my understanding with you. Add on to share yours. Respond private please. I leave as I came in Peace.

True Self Peace Allah