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netscape check two
08-27-2011, 12:04 AM
What do you suggest to do in the waste land so that less heads end up stitched on soccer balls?

PALEHORSE
08-27-2011, 01:53 AM
withdrawl all troops in afghan and iraq and declare war on mexico. they are invading usa. protect the boarders and take over the rest of mexico if their government doesnt pay reparations

PALEHORSE
08-27-2011, 02:01 AM
katt williams knows what time it is

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhS83F8rg2rB6Ep1H2

Ron Paul 2012
08-27-2011, 03:06 AM
bring troops home from the middle east -> annex mexico -> put pressure on coyotes -> protect the people using the tax revenue we get from them.

we are not going to war with mexico we would go to war against the smugglers/slavers/dealers (Coyotes) but if were going to help the people they better pay for it.


if we fix mexico there will be no issue about the border, and if we annex mexico there will be no border

this to will help solve the debt.


keep in mind this is not a matter of 'If' any more, it is a matter of 'when'

Living-jism
08-27-2011, 05:20 AM
Or... you homeboys can stop buying drugs and guns?

drippie k
08-27-2011, 04:02 PM
yeah cuz all drugs n guns come from mexico, dumbass

Living-jism
08-27-2011, 04:49 PM
Violence creates more violence... But when you stops the demand, there would be no supply. Cartels are rich cause they have people to buy their stuff.

Besides, doing drugs and playing with guns aren't good for your health! I care about your health drippie K! Know wat im sayin?

netscape check two
09-06-2011, 07:59 PM
--Ex-Mexico prez suggests truce with drug cartels


MEXICO CITY (AP) — Former President Vicente Fox suggested Friday that Mexican authorities consider calling on drug cartels for a truce and offering them amnesty, speaking out a day after an apparent cartel attack on a casino killed 52 people.

Fox, who served from 2000 to 2006, has since advocated legalizing drugs as a way to reduce violence. At least 35,000 and as many as 40,000 people have died since President Felipe Calderon launched an offensive against the cartels in late 2006.

"I want to start a public debate on the following ideas ... call on the violent groups for a truce" and "evaluate the advisability of an amnesty law," Fox said in a speech at an anti-crime event.

Last week, the attorney general of the violence-wracked southern state of Guerrero, Alberto Lopez Rosas, drew criticism when he called on cartels to establish a truce among themselves to prevent civilian casualties in their bloody turf battles.

Federal security spokesman Alejandro Poire rejected that idea this week, saying the gangs must be arrested and disbanded.

"Regarding calls by authorities for the criminals to change their behavior, I think it couldn't be clearer that peace is not going to be achieved by asking the criminals for something," Poire said.

"Peace is going to be achieved by bringing the criminals to justice ... that their thinking will not be influenced by appealing to their interests by calling on them to change their ways, but by giving them no choice but to submit to the law and stop their crimes."

Also Friday, one of Mexico's newest drug cartels posted wanted banners for members of a rival cartel, asking the public for help in capturing "kidnappers and traitors to the nation" and promising punishment.

The banners were put up by the Knights Templar, which formed around March. The cartel is an offshoot of La Familia, a pseudo-religious gang based in the western state of Michoacan. Both cartels are now feuding.

The banners showed five mugshots and listed the names of six men thought to have worked for La Familia. The banners claimed the men now are with the Zetas, another cartel that has operations throughout Mexico.

Rewards for the whereabouts of the men ranged from $100,000 to $500,000. The banner listed a phone number, which rang busy when tried by The Associated Press.

Mexican authorities took down the banners.

And on Friday, authorities in a luxurious western suburb of Mexico City found the headless body of a man and a handwritten message in which the violent Hand With Eyes drug gang took credit for the killing.

City prosecutors said the body was found in the ritzy Santa Fe neighborhood.

In the Pacific coast resort of Acapulco, state police reported they found the body of a man who had had been shot, bound and beaten, and hung by the neck from a pedestrian bridge with a piece of chain. The chain broke and the man's body fell into the roadway.

Hanging bodies from bridges has become a hallmark of drug gangs in northern Mexico, and the tactic has begun to spread to southern states like Guerrero, where Acapulco is located.

In the wake of the attack on the casino in Monterrey, the U.S. consulate in that city issued an emergency message for U.S. citizens, noting earlier, less deadly attacks on casinos in neighboring Tamaulipas state.

While no American citizens have been reported killed in the attacks, the consulate said that "levels of violence in Monterrey's consular district have risen dramatically." Consular employees and their families have been told "to avoid frequenting casinos, adult clubs, and similar gathering places that have been targets for violence by transnational criminal organizations."

The consular statement said "U.S. citizens should defer unnecessary travel to parts of Northern Mexico."

Ron Paul 2012
09-06-2011, 09:20 PM
Violence creates more violence... But when you stops the demand, there would be no supply. Cartels are rich cause they have people to buy their stuff.

Besides, doing drugs and playing with guns aren't good for your health! I care about your health drippie K! Know wat im sayin?

sorry dude guns are not the problem their a solution

Violence is an answer


and the fuck is fox thinking giving into the coyotes they need to be eradicated

not the cute ones,.. because there cute
http://udleditions.cast.org/indira/images/books/all_about_coyotes.png

but those fuckers doing the smuggling

LORD NOSE
09-07-2011, 07:23 PM
so they are over in Libya because their enemy is killing his own people - why would you not want your enemy to kill his own people ?

are mexicans doing bad things in mexico ?

what should be done ?


i think that white people should mind their business and stop trying to stop people from attempting to be as bad as they are - put an end to white supremacy globally and majority of your problems will disappear - lmao @ "what should be done" - what should be done about americas police departments who are more criminal than any mexican cartel ?

netscape check two
09-07-2011, 07:38 PM
haha

WARPATH
09-07-2011, 08:13 PM
withdrawl all troops in afghan and iraq and declare war on mexico. they are invading usa. protect the boarders and take over the rest of mexico if their government doesnt pay reparations

http://www.duttyartz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/honky.jpg

spiggity_ace
09-07-2011, 09:00 PM
so they are over in Libya because their enemy is killing his own people - why would you not want your enemy to kill his own people ?

are mexicans doing bad things in mexico ?

what should be done ?


i think that white people should mind their business and stop trying to stop people from attempting to be as bad as they are - put an end to white supremacy globally and majority of your problems will disappear - lmao @ "what should be done" - what should be done about americas police departments who are more criminal than any mexican cartel ?

Lol i agree

y do the dumb american people, not all americans, get mad about mexicans killing other mexicans and then complain wen mexicans come over trying to better there lives, fuck u, idiots

Clientele_Kid36
09-07-2011, 10:40 PM
government is corrupt. people's ambitions are corrupt. A revolution ;) jk
the source of the problem is the consumer of the drugs

netscape check two
09-07-2011, 11:42 PM
Well I don't think the US police force has killed 40,000 people in the last 5 years. Though, yeah everything is interwoven.. Drugs, guns, americans being kidnapped, NAACP, mustaches, etc.

Fresh
09-08-2011, 08:22 AM
legalise weed ????

and 40,000 in 5 years is nothing

isnt the tobacco death rate 100,000 + ANNUALLY ?

LORD NOSE
09-08-2011, 01:10 PM
Well I don't think the US police force has killed 40,000 people in the last 5 years. Though, yeah everything is interwoven.. Drugs, guns, americans being kidnapped, NAACP, mustaches, etc.

less than a 4th of the shit they do gets out to be reported -

RzaRectum
09-08-2011, 01:26 PM
less than a 4th of the shit they do gets out to be reported -

You could say that about the Mexican police. In the US someone's going to video tape it, update their status, or blog it, or micro-blog it. That's after filing a complaint or litigating the issue to boot.

p-rok73
09-10-2011, 04:34 PM
1. Legalize weed in the U.S. and Mexico.
2. Try to secure weapons from the U.S. from going to the cartels in Mexico.
3. Send the Tea Party to secure the U.S. border. If you think there are no corrupt U.S.
border agents, then you were born yesterday.

Visionz
09-17-2011, 02:58 AM
I say legalize all drugs. If its just weed them coke prices are going up which is going to escalate crime rates in us streets which leads to more broken homes, jail sentences, wasted tax dollars etc. The shit is gonna happen regardless might as well minimize the negative. The tax revenue could help out on a lot of different shit.

diggy
09-17-2011, 06:26 AM
Legalize all drugs? Ya mean to stop crime the gov should get into the drug game???? Sounds like a morally corrupt government. Gov is supposed to pass laws and uphold laws, not remove laws and push drugs on it's citizens thinking there will be less crime because of it. It's the principle of it. Smh.

Visionz
09-17-2011, 09:20 PM
Legalize all drugs? Ya mean to stop crime the gov should get into the drug game???? Sounds like a morally corrupt government. Gov is supposed to pass laws and uphold laws, not remove laws and push drugs on it's citizens thinking there will be less crime because of it. It's the principle of it. Smh.

The goverment doesn't own any distilleries but they still make money taxing liquor. I dont think drugs, any drugs should be approached any different minus the marketing campaigns.

Your sense of morality conflicts with reality. Guess which one wins out in the end.

diggy
09-18-2011, 07:07 AM
You've totally missed my point. I was refering to the purpose of gov, which is to protect it's citizens, not to harm them under the guise of lowering crime.

Visionz
09-18-2011, 08:11 PM
You've totally missed my point. I was refering to the purpose of gov, which is to protect it's citizens, not to harm them under the guise of lowering crime.

And you've missed my point, you wanna talk about the idealistic role of government and ignore reality. The War on Drugs, an abysmal failure since the crook Nixon conjured it up, is made of the same pixie dust and fairy wings.

drippie k
09-19-2011, 11:06 PM
Legalize weed wont do shit, theyll fight over coke, legalize coke and theyll fight over heroin, legalize heroin and theyll fight over something else. Put the national guard or army on the border. No fence or wall, just soldier with big guns ready for anything to happen. Or we could say fuck it and take over mexico.

diggy
09-20-2011, 09:26 PM
SAO PAOLO/LOS ANGELES — Felipe Calderon, the Mexican president, has hinted that the United States may have to consider legalizing drugs in order to weaken the powerful cartels that have wreaked havoc in his country.

In a speech in New York, Mr Calderon said the high demand for illegal drugs in the U.S. was a "key issue" and was "the most important source of power of the criminals".


"We are living in the same building. And our neighbour is the largest consumer of drugs in the world. And everybody wants to sell him drugs through our doors and our windows," he said.


"We must do everything to reduce demand for drugs. But if the consumption of drugs cannot be limited, then decision-makers must seek more solutions - including market alternatives - in order to reduce the astronomical earnings of criminal organisations."

Mr Calderon's comments, in a speech to the Americas Society and Council of the Americas, appeared to be a call for high-level debate in the U.S. about whether state regulation could prove more effective than the current "war on drugs" in combating cartels. According to the State Department, about 90 per cent of cocaine that enters the U.S. is trafficked through Mexico.


Mr Calderon launched an aggressive crackdown on cartels when he took office in December 2006. Since then, more than 42,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence.

Copyright (c) The Daily Telegraph



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Visionz
09-20-2011, 11:50 PM
^Glad Im not the only one who sees it

netscape check two
09-25-2011, 11:12 PM
Hopefully they don't browse WTC.


--Woman decapitated in Mexico for web posting

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Police found a woman's decapitated body in a Mexican border city on Saturday, alongside a handwritten sign saying she was killed in retaliation for her postings on a social networking site.

The gruesome killing may be the third so far this month in which people in Nuevo Laredo were killed by a drug cartel for what they said on the internet.

Morelos Canseco, the interior secretary of northern Tamaulipas state, where Nuevo Laredo is located, identified the victim as Marisol Macias Castaneda, a newsroom manager for the Nuevo Laredo newspaper Primera Hora.

The newspaper has not confirmed that title, and an employee of the paper said Macias Castaneda held an administrative post, not a reporting job. The employee was not authorized to be quoted by name.

But it was apparently what the woman posted on the local social networking site, Nuevo Laredo en Vivo, or "Nuevo Laredo Live," rather than her role at the newspaper, that resulted in her killing.

The site prominently features tip hotlines for the Mexican army, navy and police, and includes a section for reporting the location of drug gang lookouts and drug sales points — possibly the information that angered the cartel.

The message found next to her body on the side of a main thoroughfare referred to the nickname the victim purportedly used on the site, "La Nena de Laredo," or "Laredo Girl." Her head was found placed on a large stone piling nearby.

"Nuevo Laredo en Vivo and social networking sites, I'm The Laredo Girl, and I'm here because of my reports, and yours," the message read. "For those who don't want to believe, this happened to me because of my actions, for believing in the army and the navy. Thank you for your attention, respectfully, Laredo Girl...ZZZZ."

The letter "Z'' refers to the hyper-violent Zetas drug cartel, which is believed to dominate the city across from Laredo, Texas.

It was unclear how the killers found out her real identity.

By late Saturday, the chat room at Nuevo Laredo en Vivo was abuzz with fellow posters who said they knew the victim from her online postings, and railing against the Zetas, a gang founded by military deserters who have become known for mass killings and gruesome executions.

They described her as a frequent poster, who used a laptop or cell phone to send reports.

"Girl why didn't she buy a gun given that she was posting reports about the RatZZZ ... why didn't she buy a gun?" wrote one chat participant under the nickname "Gol."

Earlier this month, a man and a woman were found hanging dead from an overpass in Nuevo Laredo with a similar message threatening "this is what will happen" to internet users. However, it has not been clearly established whether the two had in fact ever posted any messages, or on what sites.

Residents of Mexican border cities often post under nicknames to report drug gang violence, because the posts allow a certain degree of anonymity.

Social media like local chat rooms and blogs, and networking sites like Twitter and Facebook, are often the only outlet for residents of violence-wracked cities to find out what areas to avoid because of ongoing drug cartel shootouts or attacks.

Local media outlets, whose journalists have been hit by killings, kidnappings and threats, are often too intimidated to report the violence.

Mexico's Human Rights Commission says eight journalists have been killed in Mexico this year and 74 since 2000. Other press groups cite lower numbers, and figures differ based on the definition of who is a journalist and whether the killings appeared to involve their professional work.

While helpful, social networking posts sometimes are inaccurate and can lead to chaotic situations in cities wracked by gang confrontations. In the Gulf coast state of Veracruz, just south of Tamaulipas, the state government dropped terrorism charges last week against two Twitter users for false posts that officials said caused panic and chaos in late August.

LORD NOSE
09-26-2011, 12:10 AM
Who cares

netscape check two
09-26-2011, 12:16 AM
Positive my brotha

wusis2k
09-26-2011, 02:59 AM
what the heck is wrong with these mexican gangs?

LORD NOSE
09-26-2011, 12:34 PM
yall don't wanna know the truth about mexicans and what's really going on - Pale brings up some good points in the wrong way, but he's close to understanding what's going on - this is no regular situation we are dealing with - but fuck it - yall deserve it -

netscape check two
09-27-2011, 02:29 PM
lol @ this


LOS ANGELES (AP) — The young wife of Mexico's most wanted drug lord has given birth to twin girls at a hospital in northern Los Angeles County, according to a newspaper report.

Emma Coronel, the 22-year-old wife of Joaquin Guzman, crossed the border in mid-July and delivered her daughters at Antelope Valley Hospital in Lancaster on Aug. 15, the Los Angeles Times reported on its website Monday (http://lat.ms/nyfqmn).

Coronel, a former beauty queen who holds U.S. citizenship, returned to Mexico after they were born.

Birth certificates listed Coronel as the mother of the girls, but the spaces for the father's name are blank. U.S. law enforcement officials, who tracked her movements even before she traveled to Lancaster, told the Times that Coronel was not arrested because there are no charges against her.

Coronel is believed to be the third or fourth wife of Guzman, the 54-year-old multibillionaire head of Mexico's most powerful drug-trafficking gang, the Sinaloa cartel. The couple married the day she turned 18 at a lavish wedding in the highlands of central Mexico in 2007.

U.S. authorities have placed a $5-million bounty on Guzman head and allege that he and the Sinaloa cartel control the majority of cocaine and marijuana trafficking into the U.S. from Mexico and Colombia.

Guzman reached a new level of fame — or infamy — two years ago when he made Forbes magazine's list of the 67 "World's Most Powerful People." At No. 41, he was just below Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei while topping Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez — No. 67 — and France's Nicolas Sarkozy — No. 56.

RzaRectum
09-28-2011, 02:45 AM
So her children are now American born citizens (or is that rule still in effect?)

drippie k
10-02-2011, 04:36 PM
^^that rule is and should always be in effect

netscape check two
10-02-2011, 04:37 PM
They should have locked her fat ass up while she was over here.

RzaRectum
10-05-2011, 02:52 AM
^^that rule is and should always be in effect

Agreed, but I thought I heard different some time ago.. Mostly something to do with removing the protection from Immigrants parents previously granted amnesty in the US as guardians to American soil bornd'ed kidses.

^It was supposedly come about by the whoite devils trying to keep the gods out.

Frank Sobotka
10-05-2011, 03:00 AM
Where are all these people interested in becoming gangsters come from?
And who is stupid enough to actually take this job knowing your life expectancy will decrease by 60 years as soon as you start it.

RzaRectum
10-05-2011, 03:25 AM
Where are all these people interested in becoming gangsters come from?
And who is stupid enough to actually take this job knowing your life expectancy will decrease by 60 years as soon as you start it.

LMAO! Don't knock the hustle. It's all about the excitement, money, and sense of personal power.

Frank Sobotka
10-05-2011, 03:31 AM
LMAO! Don't knock the hustle. It's all about the excitement, money, and sense of personal power.
40 thousand people in 5 years translates to 22 people killed every day, people applying for gangster in the mexican drug war must be either extremely dumb or delusional.

Nick Fury
10-08-2011, 01:03 PM
Where are all these people interested in becoming gangsters come from?
And who is stupid enough to actually take this job knowing your life expectancy will decrease by 60 years as soon as you start it.

poverty ?