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09-24-2011, 12:11 PM
Speedy Particles Put Einstein to the Test

An experiment purporting to show that subatomic particles can travel faster than light has scientists' heads spinning. If confirmed, it would undermine key pillars of modern physics.

At a presentation in Switzerland, scientists said Friday they had recorded ghostlike particles, known as neutrinos, traveling a tiny bit faster than light—an apparent breach of the cosmic speed limit set down by Albert Einstein more than a century ago.

The result could turn out to be an embarrassing miscalculation by scientists—or portend a leap into a science fiction territory where particles theoretically travel backward in time. While a confirmation of the finding wouldn't mean anything has changed about the universe, scientists' understanding of how it works would be thrown into disarray.

"It would be the biggest physics discovery in a century because we'd have to completely revise everything from subatomic physics to what we know about how the universe evolved," said Neil Turok, director of the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Ontario, Canada.

Like many physicists mulling the development, Dr. Turok was skeptical. He said neutrinos reaching the Earth from a supernova explosion have been observed to be traveling at the speed of light, which doesn't agree with the latest finding. Other scientists questioned the setup of the experiment and whether statistical errors might have affected the conclusion.

There also were questions about whether the researchers properly accounted for small glitches that could have had an unwanted effect—such as the rotation of the Earth, or the location of the moon and its role in altering the shape of the Earth's crust when the experiment was being conducted.

Even the scientists who conducted the neutrino experiment were wary about questioning one of Einstein's most powerful legacies. They spent six months verifying and reverifying the data, and called on physicists the world over to confirm—or refute—their finding through independent experiments.....[Read on (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903703604576588422968704078.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLE_Video_Third)]

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also reporting this news:

Strange Particles May Travel Faster than Light, Breaking Laws of Physics http://news.yahoo.com/strange-particles-may-travel-faster-light-breaking-laws-192010201.html

Particles found to break speed of light http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/us-science-light-idUSTRE78L4FH20110922

Neutrinos clocked moving at faster-than-light speed http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/#.Tn3_Auy4p8c

Strange Particles May Travel Faster Than Light http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/22/strange-particles-may-travel-faster-than-light/

Physicists cautious about reports of faster-than-light neutrinos http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/599350--physicists-cautious-about-reports-of-faster-than-light-neutrinos

Scientists discover something faster than speed of light? http://www.chicagotribune.com/video/breaking/chi-scientists-discover-something-faster-than-speed-of-light-20110923,0,2827383.htmlstory

09-24-2011, 02:36 PM
Darkness is already faster than light...so?

Me: Why does these Europeans try to complicate things?
Me 2: Cause most European scientist aren't capable of metaphysical thought.
Me: O yea, thankx Me 2
Me 2: No problem.


Soul Controller
09-25-2011, 06:48 AM
known about this for along time.. fuck mainstream science.

Electric universe theory.. ( check my i am dillusional thread or other posts i have made about this) or check tesla's work.

Sky Blue Bally Kid
09-25-2011, 11:20 AM


Soul Controller
09-26-2011, 07:34 AM
happened in 2007..
even tho.. tesla knew this a long time ago


you dont need pics..

just an understanding of the electric universe theory.. (which i have known held more weight than anything mainstream science adheres too)

just waiting for humankinds understanding of what it calls 'evolution' to be brought up to date

Dirty Knowledge
10-02-2011, 01:32 AM
fuck a science

netscape check two
10-02-2011, 02:10 AM
--Death of Philip Taylor Kramer

Philip Taylor Kramer (July 12, 1952 – February 12, 1995) started his career in rock music as the bass player to the reformed psychedelic group, Iron Buttery. Although Iron Butterfly’s most popular hit, “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida”, was made before his joining, Philip Taylor Kramer recorded two albums with Iron Buttery in the mid seventies, Scorching Beauty and Sun and Steel. After lackluster sales, Kramer left the group in 1977 and concentrated on furthering his education.

Kramer completed his aerospace engineering degree and his genuis was reflected in his straight “A’s” in school. His first career following school was with Northrup working on the MX missile guidance system as a Department of Defense contractor. He eventually moved into the computer industry, working on facial recognition and communications programs. Immediately prior to his disappearance in 1995, he reportedly developed a mathematical formula for transmissions at a “faster than light” speed. This formula was an ongoing effort by his family to discredit Albert Einstein’s theories.

On 12 February 1995, Kramer drove to the Los Angeles airport to pick up a business colleague who never showed up. After waiting almost an hour for this colleague, Kramer drove away and commenced to make some unusual phone calls. He called his wife and long time friend (and Iron Butterfly drummer) Ron Bushy, stating “I’ll see you on the other side”. He then called the police where he stated, “I’m going to kill myself.” Philip Taylor Kramer never returned home that day and his disappearance lasted for over 4 years.

On 29 May 1999, hikers discovered a wrecked 1993 Ford Aerostar at the bottom of a Malibu, CA ravine. Skeletal remains in the vehicle were later identified through dental records as that of Philip Taylor Kramer. Despite law enforcement ruling this as a probable suicide, family and friends of Philip Taylor Kramer discount this theory. Kramer’s spouse stated he husband “would never, for any reason or under any circumstances, allow himself to completely abandon the family he loves more than life itself.”

If Philip Taylor Kramer did in fact commit suicide, he successfully withheld these thoughts from his friends and family. So the question remains. Did Philip Taylor Kramer kill himself or was he silenced for his monumental discovery that would have discredited the life work of many influential people?