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DJ ALX
10-26-2005, 03:44 PM
In your oppinion what are the four heads of the beast?

KBA7
10-26-2005, 03:53 PM
hate, lust, jealousy, and greed

TeknicelStylez
10-26-2005, 04:12 PM
its 7 heads....

abasi
10-26-2005, 04:18 PM
isnt it the nations of the world

SubtleEnergies
10-26-2005, 11:23 PM
Yeah I thought there were 4 devils and the seven headed beast or something?

K.E.G.
10-27-2005, 12:19 AM
There is one that resembles a bear, one that looks like a giant cat, another that is almost like a dinosaur, i forget what other bullshit is out there.

Born Ruler I
10-27-2005, 09:04 AM
The four d'evils to be slain are envy, greed, lust, and hate.

One

Shemsu Elohim
10-28-2005, 06:10 PM
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Shemsu Elohim
10-28-2005, 06:11 PM
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Shemsu Elohim
10-28-2005, 06:12 PM
earth wind fire water.

That's according to part of my understanding as well.


Ready for the Kabbalistic breakdown of it?



Yetzirah (http://www.gnosticteachings.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=66)

For a more in depth Comprehension, let us study the Book of Ezekiel, Chapter 1: 4-28:








And I looked (spiritually in the World of Yetzirah), and, behold, a whirlwind (a Ruach Elohim (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) of Binah (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)), the Holy Spirit, an Angel of Yetzirah) came out of the north (the upper part of the Tree of Life, Daath (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) in the world of Yetzirah), a great cloud (of transmuted sexual libido), and a (bright) fire (the Angel) enfolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the color of amber (that contains the three primary forces: Father, Son and Holy Spirit), out of the midst of the fire (of Chastity (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))).







http://www.gnosticteachings.com/images/stories/kabbalah/yetzirah.gif


Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures (Chaioth Ha Kadosh, the Four Animas of Alchemy (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))). And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man (an Angel, Intelligence (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))).

And every one had four faces (because they manifest the intelligence of Netzach (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)), Hod (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)), Yesod (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) and Malkuth), and every one had four wings (because their energy manifests in the physical, vital, Astral (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) and mental planes).

And their feet (in Malkuth) were straight feet (Upright Action); and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the color of burnished brass (because the base where these elements rest is the Flaming forge of Vulcan; here the ‘lead’ of Saturn, Binah, the Holy Spirit, the “Man” and the ‘copper’ of Venus, Urania (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) Venus, the Divine Mother Kundalini, the “Woman” are united to lift the Serpent of ‘Brass’).

And they had the hands (actions) of a man (of Yesod, the Angel that is born from the Waters of Chastity) under their wings on their four sides (on the physical, vital, astral and mental dimensions); and they four (Solar Bodies) had their faces and their wings (they share the same Powers of the fire of chastity).

Their wings were (harmoniously) joined one to another (in the four solar bodies of the Angel); they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward (always performing the will of Kether).

As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man (symbol of the Causal Body (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) that exercise power over the water of ‘Yesod’), and the face of a lion (the Fire, Astral Body, Hod), on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox (the Earth, the Physical Body, Malkuth) on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle (the Air, the Mental Body (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)), Netzach).

Thus were their (Angelic) faces (with symbolic attributes): and their (Fiery) wings were stretched upward (because they are the outcome of the sublimation of the sexual libido); two (fiery spiritual) wings of every one were joined one to another (in the Flaming Forge of Vulcan), and two (Pingala (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) and Ida (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)), Od and Ob, the Two Witnesses) covered their bodies.

And they went every one straight forward (always performing the will of Kether): whither the spirit (the Angel) was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went (because they are the “Mercabah (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))” “to Soma Heliakon” the Garment of the Being (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))).

As for the likeness of the living creatures (the four Animas of Alchemy), their appearance was like burning coals of fire (of Chastity), and like the appearance of lamps that went over and over again in the middle (of the spinal medulla) of the living creatures; and the fire (of chastity) was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightnings (through the seven chakras of their spinal medulla).

And the living creatures ran and returned (in all of the World of Yetzirah) as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
“Now as I beheld (within the spiritual nature of the) the living creatures (or Solar Bodies of the Angel of Yetzirah), behold one wheel (active element) upon the earth (or divine nature of the solar bodies) by each one of the living creatures (or Solar Bodies) with his four faces.

The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the color of a beryl (the Cubic Stone of Yesod): and they four (active elements) had one likeness (within the Brute Mercury, the Semen (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) or Raw Matter (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) of the Great Work): and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel (Atomic Creative Solar Elements contained within the Mixture, the Semen, or Mercury of the Wise base of the four wheels: Netzach, Hod, Yesod, Malkuth).

When they (through sexual alchemy) went, they went upon their four sides (or Four Solar Bodies): and they turned not when they went (when their sexual hydrogens went transmuted).

As for their rings (or vertebrae within which these four active elements manifest throughout the spinal medulla of the Angels), they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings (or vertebrae) were full of eyes (Chakras, Powers) round about them four (Solar Bodies).

And when the living creatures (or Solar Bodies) went, the wheels (active elements) went by them (because the wheels and the living creatures are the same solar bodies that manifest the four elements: Air, Fire, Water and Earth in the Angel): and when the living creatures (or Solar Bodies) were lifted up (exercise power) from the earth (nature), the wheels were lifted up (because they are lifted up thanks to the sexual potency of the same solar bodies of the Angel).

Whithersoever the spirit (the Angel) was to go, they went, thither was their spirit (the Angel) to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the (Holy) Spirit of the living creatures was in their wheels (or active sexual elements).

When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the (Holy) Spirit (that rises throughout the spinal medulla) of each living creature (or each solar body of the Angel) was in the wheels (active creative elements: Air, Fire, water and Earth of Nature).

And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the color of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above (the Chakra (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) Sahasrara that connects all the solar bodies to Kether, the Glorian and the Ain (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0)) Soph).

And under the firmament (Kether, the Glorian) were their (Fiery) wings straight (upright action), the one toward the other (harmoniously with Binah the Holy Spirit): every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their (Angelic) bodies.

And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings (as in the Forge of the Cyclops), like the noise of great (transmuted seminal) waters, as the voice of the Almighty (El Shaddai), the voice of a crowd (of solar and lunar forces), as the noise of a (cosmic) host (of solar forces): when they rested (from their transmutation), they let down their wings (their alchemical activities).

And there was a voice (the Word) from the firmament (Kether) that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their (fiery) wings.

And above the firmament (Kether) that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne (Binah), as the appearance of a sapphire stone (because it has its foundation on Yesod): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (the Ancient of Days, the Angel) above upon it.

And I saw as the color of amber (that contains the three primary forces: Father, Son and Holy Spirit), as the appearance of fire (of Chastity) round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of (solar transmuted) fire, and it had brightness round about (his Aura).

As the appearance of the rainbow (with its seven solar colors within their seven chakras) that is in the cloud (or seminal vapors) in the day of rain (of Genesic waters through sexual transmutation), so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory (Hod, or transmuted Prana) of Jehovah Elohim (the Holy Spirit in Yetzirah). And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice (the Word) of one (Angel of Yetzirah) that spoke.”

TeknicelStylez
10-29-2005, 06:17 PM
He didn't say 4 devils, he said 4 heads of the beast, which I'm guessing you were referring to revelations. In which case it would be 7 heads 10 horns 12 coronets.

DeadPool
10-30-2005, 02:13 AM
read the Book of Daniel.....

Shemsu Elohim
10-31-2005, 04:37 PM
I thought he was referring to Ezekial.

TeknicelStylez
10-31-2005, 05:20 PM
Lol I think everyone thinks he's referring to something they believe in or studied.

He's going to have to come back and state what it is he's asking about.

Taharka
11-01-2005, 03:58 AM
The Beast:


Lion = Babylon

Bull = Greece

Man = Rome

Eagle = America

LORD NOSE
06-10-2011, 02:39 PM
up

Fatal Guillotine
06-10-2011, 05:32 PM
are we dealing with the 4 heads or the 7 heads?

Kephrem
06-10-2011, 08:41 PM
Daniel 7:6 the generals of Alexander the Greek, who ruled after his death

Fatal Guillotine
06-14-2011, 04:25 PM
are we dealing with the 4 heads or the 7 heads?

well?

ChristO
06-15-2011, 11:49 PM
The Beast:


Lion = Babylon

Bull = Greece

Man = Rome

Eagle = America

okay...
the lion, fixed position of leo [the lion]
the ox, fixed position of taurus [the bull]
the man, fixed position of aquarius [the water bearer]
the eagle, fixed position of scorpio [the scorpion, also the eagle]

ChristO
06-15-2011, 11:57 PM
Originally Posted by Legato
earth wind fire water.

exactly, earth [taurus, the ox], air [aquarius, the man], fire [leo, the lion], and water [scorpio...the eagle is also used as symbol for scorpio]...

Fatal Guillotine
06-28-2011, 12:28 PM
no one ever answer my question

4 or 7?