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EAGLE EYE
11-15-2011, 02:48 AM
http://occupywallst.org/article/nypd-raiding-liberty-square/


http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/nov/15/occupy-wall-street-police-action-live


http://yfrog.com/163yiz

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution


https://twitter.com/#!/search/%22Zucotti%20Park%22 (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%22Zucotti%20Park%22)


Updates



3:36 a.m. Kitchen tent teargassed. Police moving in with zip cuffs.
3:33 a.m. Bulldozers moving in
3:16 a.m. Occupiers linking arms around riot police
3:15 a.m. NYPD destroying personal items. Occupiers prevented from leaving with their possessions.
3:13 a.m. NYPD deploying sound cannon (http://i.imgur.com/VI488.jpg)
3:08 a.m. heard on livestream: "they're bringing in the hoses."
3:05 a.m. NYPD cutting down trees in Liberty Square
2:55 a.m. NYC council-member Ydanis Rodríguez arrested and bleeding from head.
2:44 a.m. Defiant occupiers barricaded Liberty Square kitchen
2:44 a.m. NYPD destroys OWS Library. 5,000 donated books in dumpster.
2:42 a.m. Brooklyn Bridge confirmed closed
2:38 a.m. 400-500 marching north to Foley Square
2:32 a.m. All subways but R shut down
2:29 a.m. Press helicopters evicted from airspace. NYTimes reporter arrested.
2:22 a.m. Frontpage coverage from New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/nyregion/police-begin-clearing-zuccotti-park-of-protesters.html?hp)
2:15 a.m. Occupiers who have been dispersed are regrouping at Foley Square
2:10 a.m. Press barred from entering Liberty Square
2:07 a.m. Pepper spray deployed -- reports of at least one reporter sprayed
2:03 a.m. Massive Police Presence at Canal and Broadway
1:43 a.m. Helicopters overhead.
1:38 a.m. Unconfirmed reports of snipers on rooftops.
1:34 a.m. CBS News Helicopter Livestream (http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml)
1:27 a.m. Unconfirmed reports that police are planning to sweep everyone.
1:20 a.m. Subway stops are closed.
1:20 a.m. Brooklyn bridge is closed.
1:20 a.m. Occupiers chanting "This is what a police state looks like."
1:20 a.m. Police are in riot gear.
1:20 a.m. Police are bringing in bulldozers.

IrOnMaN
11-15-2011, 08:56 AM
This shouldn't be a surprised. The pigs in Oakland did the samething yesterday because it was said to be a public health issue and a safety issue. Seriously? It was a peaceful protest! Occupy Wallstreet was never violent in anyway. People protested for a good reason and wall street, the government, and the President of the USA are aware of that but they don't care. They just want people to shut up.

I'm not mad at the pigs because they're doing their jobs. Let's pray that the pigs don't kill anyone.

SKAMPOE
11-15-2011, 01:49 PM
Sucks

EAGLE EYE
11-15-2011, 02:50 PM
I think journalist being detained/arrested is more disturbing than tents being ripped down

x7fifteen4
11-15-2011, 03:03 PM
Fuck the Nazi Storm Troopers! Perpetual Fascism in America.

CEITEDMOFO
11-15-2011, 04:00 PM
ROB SNITCHEs ON OCCUPY MORE THIS CHRIS BROUSSARD DOES THE NBA
http://www.charlierose.com/images_toplevel/people/6/693/guest_6935_340x340.jpg

LoTec
11-15-2011, 04:54 PM
I think journalist being detained/arrested is more disturbing than tents being ripped down

this, for sure

CEITEDMOFO
11-15-2011, 06:02 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/3/2/128805249607179826.jpg

JASPER
11-15-2011, 06:08 PM
I was in Amsterdam the other day and walked past a few Occupy tents. Now Amsterdam isn't the cleanest place on Earth, but my fucking God, what a horrible stench. It was like walking into a deer carcass in the middle of the summer.

Mumm Ra
11-15-2011, 06:32 PM
we've all been there

Olive Oil Goombah
11-15-2011, 07:18 PM
I was in Amsterdam the other day and walked past a few Occupy tents. Now Amsterdam isn't the cleanest place on Earth, but my fucking God, what a horrible stench. It was like walking into a deer carcass in the middle of the summer.

I never found Amsterdam to be dirty. I thought it was actually pretty clean compared to other big cities.

JASPER
11-15-2011, 07:28 PM
I never found Amsterdam to be dirty. I thought it was actually pretty clean compared to other big cities.Other cities in Europe? Amsterdam is filthy as fuck. Trash everywhere, smelly take outs, dirty sandpeople and other subhuman scum.

diggy
11-15-2011, 08:17 PM
I never found Amsterdam to be dirty. I thought it was actually pretty clean compared to other big cities.

I thought it was funny that dicky found that city to be clean. his hygiene standards is obviously calibrated differently.

:o

EAGLE EYE
11-15-2011, 09:01 PM
1 percenters will probably be throwing the most grand of celebrations tonight

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/12664213887/1/tumblr_luiumuWVRZ1qd2avd

Soul Controller
11-16-2011, 02:58 AM
Amsterdam is dirty as fuck, its worse than birmingham/manchester/liverpool . some parts of amsterdam are very nice.,. but as chevy says, its really nasty.. i aint been since 2007.. but i doubt its improoved.. it hasnt improoved since my 1st visit in 2001..

one of the most disgusting things about evicting the occupiers was, that they ripped and destroyed over 5000 books, thats a fucking library. we're not talking about fictional books either!! the occupiers had wanted to give them to a library.. but nope.. guess the judge thought, if we're destroying freedom, we might aswell destroy knowledge too..

uk govt is fucking with the loldon camp too,. more court proceedings..

we've had to move out camp from victoria square, to the peace gardens in birmingham,.. dont really attend much there now, due to it being a place for homeless people to congregate and take there drugs and get drunk.. plus we aint in the city centre no more.. so we dont get to see anyone..

we're doing a seperate anonymous thing in birmingham this weekend..

anyways

PEACE

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EAGLE EYE
11-16-2011, 04:22 AM
As Zuccotti Park is Cleared, Congress Moves to Gut Financial Reform

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/11/11130/zuccotti-park-cleared-congress-moves-gut-financial-reform


:nonono::nonono::nonono:

cutn' heads
11-16-2011, 05:29 AM
the illest part is that there was coordinated attack on the OWS spots nationwide at the same time. the mayors from about 15 cities were on the phone with people from the justice department and homeland security getting advice on how to handle it all. then they all move in. sounds to me like the feds are pulling strings to suppress the voice of the people.

Remember when people were freaking out over the Patriot Act and Homeland Security and all this other conveniently ready-to-go post-9/11 police state stuff, because it would obviously be just a matter of time before the whole apparatus was turned against non-Muslim Americans when they started getting complain-y about the social injustice and economic injustice and income inequality and endless recession and permanent unemployment? That day is now, and has been for some time. But it’s also now confirmed that it’s now, as some Justice Department official screwed up and admitted that the Department of Homeland Security coordinated the riot-cop raids on a dozen major #Occupy Wall Street demonstration camps nationwide yesterday and today. (Oh, and tonight, too: Seattle is being busted up by the riot cops right now, so be careful out there.)

Rick Ellis of the Minneapolis edition of Examiner.com has this, based on a “background conversation” he had with a Justice Department official on Monday night:

Over the past ten days, more than a dozen cities have moved to evict “Occupy” protesters from city parks and other public spaces. As was the case in last night’s move in New York City, each of the police actions shares a number of characteristics. And according to one Justice official, each of those actions was coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies.

[...]

According to this official, in several recent conference calls and briefings, local police agencies were advised to seek a legal reason to evict residents of tent cities, focusing on zoning laws and existing curfew rules. Agencies were also advised to demonstrate a massive show of police force, including large numbers in riot gear. In particular, the FBI reportedly advised on press relations, with one presentation suggesting that any moves to evict protesters be coordinated for a time when the press was the least likely to be present.

Well gosh, that’s exactly what happened. Good to know the FBI and DHS are “always there to help a brother out.” (This is their motto, in Latin.)

(And for those who are understandably doubtful about Examiner.com as a news source, here’s an AP story from a couple hours ago that verifies everything except the specific mention of DHS coordination.)

Meanwhile, according to the steady stream of insanity on the Twitter, the Seattle riot cops just “maced a pregnant woman, a kid, a priest, and a blind woman w/ a fucking cane!” We know a version of this with a rabbi and Batman and Jesus and a grasshopper ordering a Grasshopper at a bar, we think? But nothing about riot cops spraying a pregnant woman with mace.

And meanwhile at Zuccotti Park, there are thousands of people apparently ready to mix it up with the cops, who are using some kind of DARPA audio-pain weapon on the assembled humans. No way this could turn ugly!

AND, on Thursday, the Ocupados are planning to (finally?) march on the New York Stock Exchange. If they throw a roll of pennies on the trading floor, this should create a distraction and then they can just demolish the whole evil building, just as Darth Vader did not so long ago:

This does lead to some thoughts about “what #OWS should do next.” For example, if cops always attack the #occupy protests because they’re told to by Obama’s Justice Department, perhaps the protests should simply invade and occupy the Justice Department and all the dozen federal and state cop offices in every town in the country, since the cops are already there. It would save a lot of time!

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EAGLE EYE
11-17-2011, 04:45 PM
Ive been watching the NYC Day Of Action march VIA live streams while @ work.

Looks like approx. 10,000+ gathered right now. CBS has an aerial view: ustream.tv/cbsnews

Or from the ground: ustream.tv/theother99

EAGLE EYE
11-17-2011, 05:01 PM
Possibly 20k from a new report, and air space closed to press choppers

EAGLE EYE
11-17-2011, 07:26 PM
Police est. 32,000 ppl at this point.

LORD NOSE
11-17-2011, 07:49 PM
this is what all the new prisons are for - the whole population finna be locked up like acon


robbie....do you eat eggs ?

EAGLE EYE
11-17-2011, 07:52 PM
Yes i eat yo children Mr. Bird

LORD NOSE
11-17-2011, 07:52 PM
in a few, no more babies will be born - everyone will be locked up - then hooked up digitally to a world where they will feed AI with the heat that comes from their ass cheeks

EAGLE EYE
11-17-2011, 07:58 PM
Hopefully they start using fat chics in the projects as human batteries

LORD NOSE
11-17-2011, 08:24 PM
my seeds are now plotting an occupy robbies throat fiasco

there's no cops in there

EAGLE EYE
11-17-2011, 08:38 PM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/you%20mad/grand/you_mad_lol_gif.gif

Soul Controller
11-18-2011, 07:15 AM
lols at the exchange

EAGLE EYE
11-19-2011, 05:42 PM
Unrelated, but this was @ UC Davis

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203699404577048680645518086.html

Sky Blue Bally Kid
11-19-2011, 07:04 PM
^^^ Restoring Status Quo fail?...

Olive Oil Goombah
11-19-2011, 07:30 PM
Unrelated, but this was @ UC Davis

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203699404577048680645518086.html



Its funny...these same kids who look for something to protest will be the next generation of businessmen and bankers who they "claim" to despise.

I don't buy it though.


When I see these type of videos, i see a bunch of middle to upper class kids from the suburbs looking for something to do and remember from and with their time on campus.


These same kids yelling "shame on you" for a police response would be the first to cry "why weren't you here fast enough" when their dorm is robbed and their laptop with all the footage of last night occupy venture is missing.

EAGLE EYE
11-19-2011, 09:36 PM
^Regardless of your opinion about their protests or reasons for doing a sit in, the pepper spray is supposed to be used as a defensive device and not used when unprovoked.

This video simply illustrates how our country is gradually transforming into a police-state over night, and all civil liberties chipped away at. Apart from excessive force and experimental crowd control equipment being used at Occupy protests..

The Feds are pursuing projects such as hiring contractors to design IBM like super-computers with algorithms that monitor for political dissent and uprisings. Then you have Darpa, who is putting icing on the cake's icing: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/11/follow-your-heart-darpas-quest-to-find-you-by-your-heartbeat/

diggy
11-19-2011, 10:25 PM
It's hard for Dicky to see the full picture of things. He needs to be told what is in front of his very eyes.

EAGLE EYE
11-20-2011, 04:41 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/11/pepper-spray-brutality-at-uc-davis/248764/

Im surprised this article came from the atlantic, knowing how they positioned themselves since day one. I dont think any level headed person wants live in a place reflective of Syria's current state of affairs.

EAGLE EYE
11-20-2011, 05:02 AM
Nick's rant does hold some truth though. My old man was a woodwtock, bleeding heart liberal / draft dodger (not confirmed) and then spent his later years worshipping Limbaugh + the GOP. Hypocrisy at its finest. His mental health may have driven the flip flopping though, but this situation isnt uncommon.

Really boils down to whether an individual possesses empathy and analytical thinking before you hear them out.

Soul Controller
11-20-2011, 06:53 AM
lol at dicky

this might help

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CEITEDMOFO
11-20-2011, 11:42 AM
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/jamesfallows/assets_c/2011/11/6361218189_6d18254873_z-thumb-580x386-69781.jpg

FAGs LIKE THIS DESERVE TO GET PEPPERSPRAYeD

Olive Oil Goombah
11-20-2011, 11:58 AM
I'm middle of the road when it comes to all of this stuff.

Most things are not black and white...nothing is usually that simple especially when everyone has a differing opinion.


Because I don't fully adhere to the, in my view, extreme agendas of alot of people on this site, they automatically mudsling and assume I am the "enemy".


On the contrary, I'm a part of the silent majority of this country. Usually, its the way people like me vote and lean, that leads to what happens. Aside from the fact that I live in the most important swing state in the country.

So, inthe bigger picture, I do hold a small piece of importance in this country as a voter.

I voted for Obama, and so did many other in my state in my position.


The next election, I'm not so sure I'd vote for him again, and I know I'm not alone.



These kids would be better served to become politicians and get more active in their communities in much better ways than this trend of civil disobedience that has since run its course.

Its not time for revolution....this country does not need to be overturned, rather it may need some reformation.


I agree with their agenda to change, but the means by which they are going about it I wholly disagree with and find counterproductive and petty.

Olive Oil Goombah
11-20-2011, 12:04 PM
An example of this was a recent election I voted in.


It was the reformation of the current system of state employed persons.


Ohio is a very strong pro union state...this particular reform would have effects on overtime pay and negotiating power.

Mainly it would affect state and gov employees....people like policeman, fireman and even teachers.


I voted FOR reformation. And i wasn't embarassed to say so.

And alot of my union friends tried the scare tactics, but the problem is I dont think they even read the Issue bill.



I think most people are undereducated and too quick to "take sides".

Its not about taking sides, its about what doing whats best for your situation not only as an individual, but as for your community.

But everyone votes differently. If I was union, i probablly would have voted the opposite.


So I don't fault them for wanting to keep what they fought for.


But to me, there are more non union employees in the state who would benefit from a reform.

CEITEDMOFO
11-20-2011, 08:27 PM
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EAGLE EYE
11-20-2011, 09:05 PM
ROFiLL

EAGLE EYE
11-20-2011, 09:32 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15809742

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 05:50 AM
lol...

i like how the stupid folk who think this is pointless, never question that, you live in a 'free country' where protesting is a democratic right..
hell all your elected politicians where sucking dick when the middle east spring was going through a 'revolution'

hillary clinton even said some shit like ' you must let this democratic process happen, the people of the world are watching the protests in egypt' et cetra.. but when it comes to their own country..

your own politicians dont give a fuck about the 'democratic' proccess they said they was fighting for in the middle east..

then u have dicks like: eye always look eye .. who do not even question that protesting is a democratic right, instead he and dicks like him diss the protesters... but never have anything bad to say about their 'democratic' government, who is using violence against PEACEFUL PROTESTERS..

shame on americans who dont see the hipocracy in this. even more shame if u was one of the retards who was pushing for democratic protests in the middle east.. but when it comes to your country.. your like hell why not beat the prosteters...


you really need to look eye.. look eye..

Olive Oil Goombah
11-21-2011, 06:05 AM
OH how very clever.


I never said i was against protesting.

Again, you did not clearly either read, or perhaps grasp what I was saying.


This type of protesting will only get so far.


Talk is only talk, when these protesters actually do something that can have meaning and change, that will be much more effective than sitting on a sidewalk allowing themselves to be pepper sprayed.

Like you for instance....you do nothing but talk on an internet board.


Get into local politics, canvas your neighborhood and start to make actual changes.



The truth is....that most of these so called "protesters" are there for the experience. Kids who find it chic to finally be "socially aware" now that they are out from under the roof of their parents house, they finally have what they percieve as "freedom".


So they "fight the police" even though the police have always protected and served their comfortable suburbs and given them their nice F.O.P. cards.

And then, when they graduated, 99% of them will do a 180 once they start making some dough.

Once they realize that their status is a distinct advantage, that their connections and hard work in school paid off.

And while they thumb their noses as the poor and injustices while they bank, they're retort will be..."well, I put my time in during the protests" and such and such.



I think maybe you should look a little closer at thing bro.


I'm far from the enemy you so desperately are searching for.

Olive Oil Goombah
11-21-2011, 06:08 AM
I see people protesting outside of CVS right now....workers on strike.

In this economy? when you work at CVS???

Olive Oil Goombah
11-21-2011, 06:13 AM
and furthermore, if your not American or hip to American pop culture, please don't try to understand our politics.


Look eye, always look eye is from an American classic.


Go watch men dressed up in drag, aka brit comedy

cutn' heads
11-21-2011, 06:46 AM
arian foster gave a shout out to OWS on CBS halftime show. bill cowher and dan marino looked at him like he was an idiot. you know them rich old fucks prolly listen to limbaugh and actually think people want to take their money. that shit is lol.

anyhow, i see what you're saying dicky, but if the OWS movement tries to affect change through a mainstream political campaign it wont get far. maybe im cynical but the message will become clouded with traditional political strategies and rhetoric. before you know it it's hijacked by the wealthy elite so they can control the agenda being pushed.

the real problem is greed and the capitalist idea of greed as a positive attribute. as long as that exists we will always live on under the thumb of the elite.

Olive Oil Goombah
11-21-2011, 07:05 AM
Greed is more than a capitalist problem. Its basically a human problem.

The rich will always control the means.


The poor can take power from the rich, only to become the rich themselves.



A CBS halftime football show is not the forum for this and Foster was an idiot.

Quit football and your multimillion dollar contract and join the cause on the front line if your so concerned.

The chances of him doing that? Absolutely zero.

The Pat Tillmans of the world, people willing to give their life to a whatever cause they are for are few and far between.


But people act as is productivity and innovation are evil things, and that I disagree with.


I'd like to know what exactly are the plans of this OWS movement?

Revolution? What do they plan to do with it once they overthrow it? Do they even have a plan?

Is it an idealistic plan that works in theory but not in practice?

I think this OWS crowd falls into its own trap. They think everyone should think like them, and they accept no substitute. There is no middle ground.

To me, that sort of mindset is dangerous. Yes, they are harmless now, but if they were given riches and POWER, how would they react to it?

My guess is the greedy would manipulate ways to control the movement and you'd see the same bickering you see now.


The only hope is that the silent majority doesn't become apathetic nor extreme. That they stay grounded.



Hating the rich because they are successful is jealousy. Hating the rich because they have there own political wants is as ridiculous as the rich hating the poor because they have their own.


Its not about taking sides. We are not at that point where a revolution of these proportions is necessary. Its about reform.


Some of the revolutionist would have us overthrow the gov. For what? Would they even know what to do with it? Handing over the keys of a Lambourghini to someone who'se never driven a car before?


Like I said, it has to start politically, on a small scale.....if you want to propogate change, its not going to happen at the next election. It may take a decade, maybe two.


But a mission statement, from these OWS types would be preferential.

Because to me, it seems more like prolonged teenage angst.

cutn' heads
11-21-2011, 07:54 AM
you ask a lot of questions for a monday morning but this sticks out to me as a typical misconception thats rather frustrating.

But people act as is productivity and innovation are evil things, and that I disagree with.


thats just not the case. the uninformed think this is a battle against american tradition and capitalism. it's not. they dont think that any big corporation is inherently evil just because it makes money. it's about corruption. look at apple. probably the most innovative company of the last decade. they manufacture all their shit in china and no one is vilifying them. they make products that the average person has access to and enjoys.

the corruption comes from the financial, energy and defense industries that have used their money to influence government policies that makes them wealthier and makes the general public poorer. these arent conspiracy theories, it's fact. the defense industry uses it's power to keep us in wars that bleed the taxpayers and fill their pockets. energy and oil companies keep us tied to oil and coal because they still have it to sell. they would lose bazillions of dollars if we started using more efficient sources that already exist. the banking and financial institutions corrupt tactics have been readily exposed over the last few years and are clear to anyone who pays attention.

these are the people that have bought our government. they run it. their lobbyists litterally write the fucking legislation our representatives sign into law. they have all the power and will never willingly relinquish it.

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 09:08 AM
ok dicky, i didnt read ur latest posts, i was going off what you had previously stated on this forum,.

plutocracy is the problem.

the protesters and other groups associated with them are making a new social / economic climate, that this world will slowly transform into,. we just need to get more people aware, before the mass boycotting of corporations gets underway,, millions have already closed their bank accounts worldwide,, its aslow process, but the only way to learn is through the collapse of the current system, to a more fairer system where the people get the say over decisions that effect them(not somewhere 100's of miles away in a centralised structure)
#Occupy is the 2nd phase of this process,. through occupy many ideas and ways forward have been discussed and are currently in the process of being implamented..
you wont see thsi on your western news channels.. check rt news or presstv..

And really.. i dont understand u.s politics? i think you cant grasp the size of this,, politics through think tanks and instuitions like the CFR/Tavistock/Thule society/Council of 12/school of science,, countless over thinktanks, have made politics a world wide thing,, its been liek that since the late 50's..

everything is not 'the u.s.a' countries are corporations(check blacks law dictionary 5th edition )owned and run by the same people who own and run everything else..

i call those people the powers that where.

dickie have you seen any solutions from the occupy movement? what coverage have you seen of this?
do you check independent journalists videos on youtube?


its not hating the rich because their jealous, they lie and cheat, they BREAK laws so that they can continue to steal of the people..

but mainstream wont cover this..

bankers gamble with ponzi schemes,. if they make a loss.. its the publics cash,, if they make cash, they keep the cash by having dividends and bonus paid to them,.

when the banks / corporations fail. the public bail them out with tax payers money,,.
the governments get loans at extortionate rates., thrusting their civilians into even more debt,. when all the time they(the govts) could print cash for free themselves..

alas government doesnt do the will of the people, it does the will of the rich/elite/corporations.. they can get away with whatever crimes they desire,, as has been documented X10

last comment

yes dicky they have many plans..

i can only reccomend better and more diverse infromation resources, nothing mainstream.. peace

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 09:15 AM
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watch this dickie, (:

EAGLE EYE
11-21-2011, 02:17 PM
Financial reform would be a good start, but I already posted the news about Congress attempting to gut it on the day Zucotti park was raided. The new legislation for more oversight in the Finance sector which was introduced after the 2008 market crash may be repealed by the GOP if they have their way.

IrOnMaN
11-21-2011, 02:19 PM
Financial reform would be a good start, but I already posted the news about Congress attempting to gut it on the day Zucotti park was raided. The new legislation for more oversight in the Finance sector which was introduced after the 2008 market crash may be repealed by the GOP if they have their way.

Interesting.

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 05:28 PM
financial reform is not a good start,.

total rebuild of the ENTIRE system is required, not just the financial sector.

the legislations been their since the early 80's.. the last time mass bankers got done for fraud(in the usa)..

somthing i wrote on my fb a few days back summerising whats going to happen :p

We are moving towards the new system of political / social functioning and Governance in this world, We are moving very rapidly towards achieving that goal, We the people from all over the world are collaberating with one another through the interwebs. ; Corrupters will be exploited, The world will be reclaimed, The corrupt fear us, The honest support us, The heroic fight with us....
We Are Anonymous
We Are Legion
We Do Not Forgive
We Do Not Forget
Expect Us

EAGLE EYE
11-21-2011, 05:36 PM
That could take a while

Olive Oil Goombah
11-21-2011, 05:55 PM
Look how long it took for the monarchies to transition into democracies. Centuries. Countless wars fought.

To think that a few sit-ins and civil disobedience is going chang everything by 2012....thats silly.


Its nice that these people outlined their intentions, and it sounds noble but your going to need alot more than just awareness.

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 05:58 PM
im giving it an end date of spring 2013 :)

hope thats not too long awayyy

end as in the system will be collapsing/collapsed by then,. im sure it wont be too much longer before even normal folk are hit even harder by austerity measures and any sensible working class person of a reasonable level of education would be curious as to what has gone on and why..


i really cant see why, in the age of the internet, why we cant all vote on serious issues, why cant we all have a proper say in decisions that effect us all voting would be instant! ..self sustaining cities, globally.....people researching ongoing technological development, people harvesting crops and people having fun.

I cant see no reason as why we cant all live beyond our means, and have the resources and the people to actually go and explore our solar system, once we have stopped the slave system, we can all help to sort out the third world, teach educate bring them up to the levels we are accustomed too, reduce poverty to 0% worldwide..
its easy once the blood sucking leaches have been taken care of, the power will be in the hands of the majority,, with all information and knowledge available to all..
imagine the discoveries and breakthroughs we would discover once humanity is let free. im sure human consciousness will explode even more so than in the renaissance period (:

Peace R.O.B pt3

aint heard that track in time. got the beat stuck in my mind now..!!. lol aint heard any mobb deep related music for so many years..

Olive Oil Goombah
11-21-2011, 05:58 PM
And who exactly are is the "we" and "us" you are referring to?

what makes you different?


I'm not saying it can't happen, but history has already outlined and illustrated countless causes that start off noble, but curtail off into corruption once POWER is introduced.


Lets drop the revolution and start with reform.


Too much too soon is never good.

SKAMPOE
11-21-2011, 06:20 PM
hahaha

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 06:38 PM
Their has hasnt been a peoples revolution for centuries, they have been financed and backed by the same people.. whats reform? why reform a broken system.. i see politics as trolling in its purest form, how can any possible sensible decision, benefiting the people come from politicians who just care about £$£$£$£$

i understand what your saying and see why your skeptical,, most people fjear a tightening of governmental control, due to these protests... people live in shiney lil bubbles,, why pop them?

us and we? i dont know.. sorry.. us is humanity,, we is humanity.. all the same side.. consciousness needs to experiance then manifest into reality....

what makes me any different? im not different than you, both our views are true and just, as percieved by the viewer,.. all the different experiances adding to the wealth of data that consciousness uses to manifest reality.. (physical evolution)
which brings me to your earlier question.. you asked 2012? ... i ask you why not?


Robbie.. i have a question for you..(and for anyone else who can offer insight) seeing as you are an 11:11 head like me..
up until say late october.. everything seemed to be in a rush.. the energy i was feeling.. the way events where unfolding world wide.. it was like if the occurence of random daily events was increasing x4 everyday...
since the start of november,, it feels like everything is slowing down... or winding down?
i dont know how to explain it.. like if everything that happened till the end of october is being processed before the next phase of this reality/illusion begins..

thanks for the reply dicky, peace guise.

CEITEDMOFO
11-21-2011, 06:56 PM
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Robbie.. i have a question for you..(and for anyone else who can offer insight) seeing as you are an 11:11 head like me..
up until say late october.. everything seemed to be in a rush.. the energy i was feeling.. the way events where unfolding world wide.. it was like if the occurence of random daily events was increasing x4 everyday...
since the start of november,, it feels like everything is slowing down... or winding down?
i dont know how to explain it.. like if everything that happened till the end of october is being processed before the next phase of this reality/illusion begins..



WHAT A FAGGiT

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 07:11 PM
picture doesnt do me justice.. i have a like an al queda beard atm its like 2 cm;s long all the way round.. it keeps out the cold.. winter sucks in the northern hemisphere
... my chest isnt so smooth.. albeit theirs less hair on my chest than my face..

sorry im nothing liek the faggIt in the pic you posted.

CEITEDMOFO
11-21-2011, 07:53 PM
IF YOUR THOUGHTs HAD A PHYSICAL, THAT IS HOW YOU WOULD LOOK

Soul Controller
11-21-2011, 08:14 PM
you cant fathom my thoughts...

but ok ill go with what your saying... and???

CEITEDMOFO
11-21-2011, 08:27 PM
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EAGLE EYE
11-21-2011, 10:03 PM
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Yeaa im watching the Pats rape the Chiefs

LONDON!
11-22-2011, 11:47 AM
this is from washingtonblog.com

American Police Are So Brutal that the Egyptian Military Is Justifying Its Murder of Tahrir Square Protesters By Pointing to the Crackdown on Occupy Wall Street

Posted on November 20, 2011 by WashingtonsBlog

Egyptian Military Points to American Police Brutality in Justifying Murder of Tahrir Square Protesters

And America’s response towards the peaceful Occupy protesters has been so brutal that now the Egyptian military is justifying its murder of protesters in Tahrir Square by saying they are just following the American example. As Gawker notes:

Two people were killed in Cairo and Alexandria this weekend as Egyptian activists took the streets to protest the military’s attempts to maintain its grip on power. And guess how the state is justifying its deadly crackdown. “We saw the firm stance the US took against OWS people & the German govt against green protesters to secure the state,” an Egyptian state television anchor said yesterday (as translated by the indispensable Sultan Sooud al Qassemi; bold ours).

Note: American protesters are protesting for the same reasons as the Egyptian protesters. Truly, it is the people of the entire world versus the oligarchs and their mercenaries.

EAGLE EYE
11-22-2011, 12:59 PM
this is from washingtonblog.com

American Police Are So Brutal that the Egyptian Military Is Justifying Its Murder of Tahrir Square Protesters By Pointing to the Crackdown on Occupy Wall Street

Posted on November 20, 2011 by WashingtonsBlog

Egyptian Military Points to American Police Brutality in Justifying Murder of Tahrir Square Protesters

And America’s response towards the peaceful Occupy protesters has been so brutal that now the Egyptian military is justifying its murder of protesters in Tahrir Square by saying they are just following the American example. As Gawker notes:

Two people were killed in Cairo and Alexandria this weekend as Egyptian activists took the streets to protest the military’s attempts to maintain its grip on power. And guess how the state is justifying its deadly crackdown. “We saw the firm stance the US took against OWS people & the German govt against green protesters to secure the state,” an Egyptian state television anchor said yesterday (as translated by the indispensable Sultan Sooud al Qassemi; bold ours).

Note: American protesters are protesting for the same reasons as the Egyptian protesters. Truly, it is the people of the entire world versus the oligarchs and their mercenaries.


ummm.. That's actually pretty ridiculous because there is a big difference between a firm stance VS. murdering protestors. It's also seems like the Egyptian military possesses the same kind of logic that kids on a play ground would exercise.

"But they are doing it too in the states!! Wahhhhhh"

Soul Controller
11-23-2011, 07:32 AM
protestors are being (nerve) gased in Tahrir Square,..

cant believe bbc5live radio was broadcasting live interviews from their last nite

CEITEDMOFO
11-23-2011, 07:57 AM
this is from washingtonblog.com

American Police Are So Brutal that the Egyptian Military Is Justifying Its Murder of Tahrir Square Protesters By Pointing to the Crackdown on Occupy Wall Street

Posted on November 20, 2011 by WashingtonsBlog

Egyptian Military Points to American Police Brutality in Justifying Murder of Tahrir Square Protesters

And America’s response towards the peaceful Occupy protesters has been so brutal that now the Egyptian military is justifying its murder of protesters in Tahrir Square by saying they are just following the American example. As Gawker notes:

Two people were killed in Cairo and Alexandria this weekend as Egyptian activists took the streets to protest the military’s attempts to maintain its grip on power. And guess how the state is justifying its deadly crackdown. “We saw the firm stance the US took against OWS people & the German govt against green protesters to secure the state,” an Egyptian state television anchor said yesterday (as translated by the indispensable Sultan Sooud al Qassemi; bold ours).

Note: American protesters are protesting for the same reasons as the Egyptian protesters. Truly, it is the people of the entire world versus the oligarchs and their mercenaries.
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