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05-21-2012, 03:21 AM
05-21-2012, 04:58 AM
I hope Palehorse tries the cinnamon challenge again while watching this video.
05-21-2012, 09:06 AM
05-21-2012, 10:23 AM
I think they should suspend black peoples right to vote in the next election because they obviously cant use their votes responsibly
food for thought
05-21-2012, 11:34 AM
May 19, 2012
Obama Was Born in Hawaii Before He Was Born in Kenya
Thomas Lifson has already made the definitive statement (here) as to the absurdity of the claim that a literary agent's brochure listed Barack Obama's birthplace as Kenya -- for sixteen years -- due to a "fact checking error" by bio editor Miriam Goderich. And it has been widely noted by those with far more experience in the publishing industry than I that such an author's biography would never be written without the involvement of the author or his official representative at some stage of the process.
Yet there is another peculiarity about this mysterious Kenyan birth "mistake" that seems worthy of notice. The brochure in question first appeared in 1991. At this time, Obama was merely a prospective author. He had not yet written a book, and, as is well known, he had never published any academic work or articles of note.
His only real claim to significance, at that time, was his being the president of the Harvard Law Review. And this accomplishment, in fact, forms the lead sentence of the infamous bio:
Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.
This bio was written just one year after Obama was elected to the Harvard position. Upon his election, both the New York Times and the LA Times ran articles announcing this first of Obama's now endless series of "historic" achievements.
In the NYT article , published February 6, 1990, after a brief account of his parentage, we read this simple sentence: "Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii."
In the LA Times article , published March 19, 1990, we read this: "Born in Hawaii, where his parents met in college, Obama was named Barack (blessed in Arabic) after his father."
The two highest-circulation metropolitan newspapers in the U.S. explicitly claimed that Obama was born in Hawaii, a year before the Acton & Dystel bio was written. And those two earlier articles, like the literary agency's bio, were focused on Obama's position at Harvard Law Review. Where did the NYT and LA Times reporters (Fox Butterfield and Tammerlin Drummond, respectively) get their information about Obama's birthplace? Presumably, it was either from Obama himself, or from Harvard records. The former seems far more likely, given the parental details included in both articles.
So it seems that Obama was clearly representing himself as born in the U.S.A. in 1990, one year before the Acton and Dystel bio.
What are we to make of this, given the fact that a year later, and likely working with the same potential sources of information, Miriam Goderich (or someone else) wrote that Obama was born in Kenya? And that this "fact checking error" was left unaltered during the entire time Obama was represented by the Dystel agency, a relationship which ended only in 2004, when, according to the New York Times , Obama switched to Robert B. Barnett?
Did Goderich jot down this bio casually while reading the LA Times article upside down after drinking heavily? Or was she merely confused about her "facts" after listening to an overgrown student radical named Barack Something-or-other drone on with historic pomposity for an hour about his family history? (More believable, to be sure.)
In either case, can you imagine being represented by a literary agent for thirteen years, from a time before you were first published to the time you became a best-selling author, and never once bothering to read the bio with which the agency is representing you to publishers? For that matter, can you imagine Michelle Obama, clearly a hands-on participant in her husband's literary career, never having bothered to read it?
This bio in no way proves that Obama was born in Kenya, particularly in light of the two newspaper articles from a year earlier which describe him as having been born in Hawaii. What it does suggest, as others have observed, is that this man and his promoters have a long history of playing cat-and-mouse games with Truth. And not just regarding nebulous little matters like job creation or how we are to understand clause 7b on page 2,328 of some piece of legislation, but rather with regard to basic facts about who he is.
To be a flip-flopper on gay marriage or single-payer healthcare is politics as usual in the modern age. To be a flip-flopper on your basic identity or your past associations, on the other hand -- this is something new in presidential politics. Something historic, in fact.
Barack Obama is vying to go down as the most visible, well-traveled and destructive "man who wasn't there" of all time. And the conclusion of Hughes Mearns famous rhyme sums it up best for the rest of us:
food for thought
05-21-2012, 11:35 AM
05-21-2012, 11:48 AM
obama was born in hawaii before he was born in kenya
05-21-2012, 01:23 PM
Natural Born citizen not being defined in the constitution means this debate will never end http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause
05-21-2012, 06:34 PM
Yoo-Ess-Ehh sure is the land of self-sonning!
05-22-2012, 12:01 AM
Those statements prove nothing as far as where he was born.
05-22-2012, 12:05 AM
your right , its all just a whole bunch of coincidences that concur
05-22-2012, 12:13 AM
Not coincidences. It's just that as a person born of immigrant parent(s), sometimes it is played up by oneself and/or others. Myself, I was born in the Americas, but sometimes people would refer to my parents country, sometimes I would too cuz that's what some people really wanna know - "where are you ORIGINALLY from?" , but what it says on my official government issued documents is a fact.
What do Obamas' official government issued documents say? That's what really should be looked at, not what he said.
05-22-2012, 12:16 AM
that nigger got caught using fake S.S numbers and all that fuck that shit
THAT MOTHER FUCKER IS A FRAUD
WHAT DO OBAMAS OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS SAY? iD LIKE TO KNOW TOO SINCE CANT NOBODY FIND A REAL COPY OF THAT SHIT AND ITS BEEN COVERED UP OVER AND OVER FOR YEARS BEFORE HE WAS EVEN ELECTED
05-23-2012, 12:43 AM
Let it go faggot. Your shitty life will inevitably continue whether Obama is a fraud or not.
05-23-2012, 12:51 AM
"This country was built and run by men with worse stories than whatever you've imagined here."
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