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Big Smokes
07-04-2012, 03:29 PM
do you think arrogance has any place in learning?

KERZO
07-04-2012, 05:21 PM
“In some situations, if you say nothing, you are called dull; if you talk, you are thought impertinent and arrogant. It is hard to know what to do in this case. The question seems to be, whether your vanity or your prudence predominates.”
― William Hazlitt (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/52629.William_Hazlitt), Selected Essays, 1778-1830 (http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/292689)

diggy
07-04-2012, 07:34 PM
Arrogance is the banal mask for cowardice; but far more important, it is the most potent impediment to the flourishing life. Clear thinking and self-importance cannot logically coexist....

Conceit is an iron gate that admits no new knowledge, no expansive possibilities, nor constructive ideas...

Such preening not only alienates others, since an overbearing lout is suffocating to be around, but also leads to complacency, precluding change in a wholesome direction...

New experiences are meant to deepen our lives and advance us to new levels of competence; they are not meant to be used by the self-important as fodder for shoring up their previously adopted views and conclusions.

Important knowledge and personal guidance dwell in unexpected places. If you wish to see them and avail yourself of them when you come upon them, then guard yourself lest you become vainglorious and uncritically smug.

The legitimate glow of satisfaction at accomplishing a hard-won worthy goal should not be confused with arrogance, which is characterized by self-preoccupation and lack of interest in the feelings or affairs of others.

Art of Living: The Classical Manual on Virtue, Happiness, and Effectiveness - Sharon Lebell


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PALEFORCE
07-05-2012, 07:23 PM
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KATO
07-05-2012, 10:19 PM
do you think arrogance has any place in learning?


Arrogance - no

Self-Confidence - yes


example of arrogance:

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example of self-confidence:

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example of arrogance:

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example of self-confidence:

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LORD NOSE
07-06-2012, 04:51 AM
do you think arrogance has any place in learning?

Arrogance and self righteousness follow behind learning and picking up info

Big Smokes
07-06-2012, 07:06 AM
but do you think its necessary?
when one is trying to learn?

LORD NOSE
07-06-2012, 12:51 PM
Yes. because their arrogance leads them to make mistakes. And this process brings them to wisdom after the knowledge

PALEFORCE
07-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Why start with a handicap?

LORD NOSE
07-06-2012, 12:59 PM
Why start with a handicap?

Because we don't come out the womb running track

Big Smokes
07-07-2012, 02:12 PM
thanks guys

Big Smokes
07-18-2012, 09:42 AM
do you think a person can have to much arrogance/pride/etc?

LORD NOSE
08-13-2012, 08:20 AM
yes. if they hold onto the info too long like if it's precious jewel that they can use to gain attention and acceptance.

it also depends on where and how they obtained this info, whether or not they have worked their own brains to come up with answers, or the answers were given to them from copypaste.com

most never get past the knowledge stage because they are afraid to damage their image by being humble. and humbleness seems like a weakness to most because most never get past the knowledge stage

LORD NOSE
08-13-2012, 09:11 PM
17. Al Israa ( 111 )



Ayah 4

17:4 And We conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.

LORD NOSE
08-20-2012, 01:38 PM
up for good reason

Urban_Journalz
08-20-2012, 05:28 PM
do you think arrogance has any place in learning?

Arrogance is a sign of someone having reached a certain point in their knowledge and being comfortable in that state. Willful stagnation. The refusal to learn anything further.

So no. Arrogance to me is the antithesis of learning.

Frank Sobotka
08-20-2012, 05:38 PM
It's been proven that the more you think you know, the less you actually know.
So arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand.

LORD NOSE
08-20-2012, 05:55 PM
info can build up in your head like food builds up in your gut -

when you take up info for the wrong reasons, and then spit it back out, it stinks and you're usually the only one who cannot smell it.

a knowledgeable person usually wants to show off his knowledge - he becomes wise when he asks questions about what he thinks he knows - he can ask himself, he can ask others, but if he's arrogant and wants to show off what he thinks he knows, he will not ask questions - and he'll throw stones at the ones who question his performance of knowledge -

now if the ones he is performing for is just as arrogant and also wants to show off what they think they know, you'll get a closed thread/bruised head -