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TheFunkyDrummer
07-16-2012, 05:04 PM
Yo,
The title says it all. What is the best album of all time as far as lyrics go and explain why.

KATO
07-16-2012, 05:07 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/GZALiquidSwords.jpg/220px-GZALiquidSwords.jpg

explain why?

Listen to the album start 2 finish, and it explains itself.

nuff said

TheFunkyDrummer
07-16-2012, 05:09 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/GZALiquidSwords.jpg/220px-GZALiquidSwords.jpg

explain why?

Listen to the album start 2 finish, and it explains itself.

nuff said

Liquid Swords is one of my favorites as well but Grandmasters may be his best as far as lyrics go.

KATO
07-16-2012, 05:27 PM
Liquid Swords is one of my favorites as well but Grandmasters may be his best as far as lyrics go.


Queens Gambit is the best track off that album

CEITEDMOFO
07-16-2012, 05:54 PM
DJ MUGGS GRANDMASTERS DISAPPOINTING BEATS MAKE THE ALBUM WACK,

HOW DOES A TEMPLES OF BOOM PRODUCER TURN WACk?

TheFunkyDrummer
07-16-2012, 07:03 PM
Queens Gambit is the best track off that album

Probably true. Exploitation of Mistakes is a classic as well.

hide1998
07-16-2012, 07:50 PM
DJ MUGGS GRANDMASTERS DISAPPOINTING BEATS MAKE THE ALBUM WACK,

HOW DOES A TEMPLES OF BOOM PRODUCER TURN WACk?

The production sounded very "Wu" to me.

$inista
07-16-2012, 09:38 PM
http://yoburg.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Big-Pun-Capital-Punishment-Front.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kV9jX5pNLSw/SwnQodmFwHI/AAAAAAAAADI/sqRoOdh1G4Q/s1600/Big_Punisher_Capital_Punishment-front.jpg

Because I said so!

KATO
07-16-2012, 10:00 PM
^

good call

Pun FTW

WooHa
07-17-2012, 01:50 AM
http://www.sohh.com/img/lil-b-im-gay-2011-06-16-300x300.jpg

TheFunkyDrummer
07-17-2012, 06:45 AM
There are a lot of albums in terms of lyrics that easily surpass Capital Punishment.

ronaldo6
07-17-2012, 08:04 AM
Big L - Lifestyles ov da poor and dangerous

KATO
07-17-2012, 08:45 AM
There are a lot of albums in terms of lyrics that easily surpass Capital Punishment.


Maybe so, but few can compare with the delivery

Pattch82
07-17-2012, 08:46 AM
Wu-Tang Forever.



End thread.

Ghost In The 'Lac
07-17-2012, 10:10 AM
Wu-Tang Forever.



End thread.
:yes:

Big Smokes
07-17-2012, 02:56 PM
what about rakim discog

Big Smokes
07-17-2012, 04:05 PM
the adventures of slick rick

infinite vagina
07-17-2012, 05:49 PM
Eric B. & Rakim - Follow the Leader

8
07-17-2012, 06:20 PM
Wu-Tang Forever.



End thread.

:yes:
Yep, hard to argue. Kinda the pinnacle of lyricism as far as Hip-Hop records and the essence of what Hip-Hop represents (to me). It only went downhill from then on when it comes to lyrics and basically everything else in Hip-Hop...
So yeah, my choice also:
http://www.silverdisc.com/images/0/088561183721.jpg

$inista
07-17-2012, 09:16 PM
Big L - Lifestyles ov da poor and dangerous true!
the adventures of slick rick
nice!
Eric B. & Rakim - Follow the Leader
very true!
There are a lot of albums in terms of lyrics that easily surpass Capital Punishment.
your opinion doesn't count you ready picked remember
Wu-Tang Forever.



End thread.
I would say enter the wutang 36 chambers if i go the wu route that was the game changer right there but never the less that shit was dope


Biggie ready to die classic

the great white hope my nigga
Eminem the slim shady lp or lp marshal mathers lp
lyrical shit with a twist right there

oh man
organized konfusion, organized konfusion the album
prisioners of war love that track

still rocking with pun I'm bias if not i would say 36 chamers again i'm bias

JIGSAW45
07-17-2012, 09:52 PM
Def gotta be. Between liquid swords, capital punishment and Wu-Tang forever. Everybody's opinion differs but these three are my favorites. Oganized konfusion were dope as fuck. gang Starr...imo never dropped a wack album not to mention guru always came correct with the rhymes. I would incude 36 chambers but imo wu forevers lyric game was waaay more mature n polished up.

Socrates92
07-17-2012, 10:08 PM
Paid in Full

JIGSAW45
07-17-2012, 11:18 PM
Paid in Full

Most lyrical for the 80s but definitely a great album and way ahead of its time. I even dare to say this album changed rhyme
Writing forever.

JIGSAW45
07-17-2012, 11:24 PM
the adventures of slick rick

Great storytelling yes,great writing yes, lyricism...mehhhh. Not sayin its not classic cuz it is, But thats just my opinion.

GRANDMASSIVE.
07-17-2012, 11:41 PM
Wu-Tang Forever imo but nobody can deny Big Puns delivery on Capital Punishment. Dude is a str8 monster with the rhymes. peace

JIGSAW45
07-18-2012, 01:05 AM
Repped!

Yuki
07-18-2012, 06:27 AM
gza - liquid swords
big pun - capital punishment
big l - lifestylez ov da poor & dangerous
cannibal ox - the cold vein
nas - illmatic
pete rock & cl smooth - mecca & the soul brother

i could go on... way too hard to decide on a single album... also it would depend on how you interpret "most lyrical"

Prime8
07-18-2012, 11:16 AM
Depending on what you mean by 'lyrical'

Aesop Rock - Labor Days

8
07-18-2012, 11:23 AM
^^Not doubtin' his lyrical ability, but that album and his others are boring as hell (to me).

THE MASON
07-18-2012, 01:37 PM
theres too many to pick one album

yall left out the Tribe albums

Gang Starr albums, cant name one thats subpar lyrically

Blackstar album is ill with the lyrics

KRS - Return to the Boom Bap

OC Word.... Life is top of the line

The Roots dropped some superior lyrics in the 90s and never feel off, i might have to give the nod to Black Thought, cause he simply gets better each album

everything else has been mentioned and/or forgotten because from 90-2000s there was an overwhelming amount of material to call "top lyrical album"

TheFunkyDrummer
07-18-2012, 02:26 PM
Big L? Seriously..he's overrated when it comes to punchlines and his subject matter was always poor. Nothing against the dude, he had some interesting concepts and he had ill punchlines but overall lyrically? No.

Masters of the Universe by Binary Star, The Best Part by J-Live and Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious are up there.

$inista
07-18-2012, 03:16 PM
the Roots dropped some superior lyrics in the 90s and never feel off, i might have to give the nod to Black Thought, cause he simply gets better each album

everything else has been mentioned and/or forgotten because from 90-2000s there was an overwhelming amount of material to call "top lyrical album"

werd I always thought black thought was underrated it's almost like he's not considered a rapper cause the roots is a band but he can rip a mic apart

Big L? Seriously..he's overrated when it comes to punchlines and his subject matter was always poor. Nothing against the dude, he had some interesting concepts and he had ill punchlines but overall lyrically? No.
.

i can see what you saying because you don't care for the dude he's not lyrical :thumbdwn:you sounding crazy right now
http://popcomedypodcast.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/sweet-genius-4.jpg


surprise no one mention MOBB DEEP

theheavens
07-18-2012, 03:36 PM
Illmatic is a strong contender, but Big Pun's debut is a lyrical feast as well. he had the biggest vocabulary of any MC. Biggie was a dope lyricist, but the biggest words he used were "and" and "the." Pun was on a whole new level. in his Legacy documentary, they said he read the entire dictionary

TheFunkyDrummer
07-18-2012, 03:45 PM
werd I always thought black thought was underrated it's almost like he's not considered a rapper cause the roots is a band but he can rip a mic apart



i can see what you saying because you don't care for the dude he's not lyrical :thumbdwn:you sounding crazy right now
http://popcomedypodcast.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/sweet-genius-4.jpg


surprise no one mention MOBB DEEP

I was asking about lyrics, if I wasn't I would be naming albums like 3 Feet High And Rising, The Low End Theory and Aquemini

CEITEDMOFO
07-18-2012, 05:14 PM
Big L? Seriously..he's overrated when it comes to punchlines and his subject matter was always poor. Nothing against the dude, he had some interesting concepts and he had ill punchlines but overall lyrically? No.

Masters of the Universe by Binary Star, The Best Part by J-Live and Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious are up there.

DID THIS NERDBOMBER SAY WACKALICIOUS, J LIVE. AND BINARY STAR IS BETTER THAN BIG L? ROFLMAO
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxnlnrsPpz1qfwk1a.gif

J LIVE IS COOL, BUT IM PRETTY SURE HIM AND PUSSY ASS BINARY STAR AND WACKILICOUS ALL KNO BIG L SHITS ON THEm
dk6-rbrKD0U

REAP HIP HOP>> NERD HoP

THE MASON
07-18-2012, 07:20 PM
in the last few years, id have to say Reks is one of the illest lyricists and rhymers in general, dude spits some ill bars. dude deserves more props

grey hairs shows that but R.E.K.S is def one of my favourite joints in a long time

KATO
07-18-2012, 07:47 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Ice_Cube-Death_Certificate_%28album_cover%29.jpg

Those may define lyricism differently than others, but this should get a mention hands down. This shit was and still is fire. I can't remember a lot of the time when I first heard an album from an artist that got me interested, but I know EXACTLY when and where I was when I first heard Death Certificate

Cube's delivery and charisma is untouchable, I know he's at a different stage of his career right now, but back then I'd consider him heavyweight champ as a solo artists during this time.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/AmeriKKKa%27s_Most_Wanted_%28Ice_Cube%29.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/Ice_Cube_-_The_Predator_-_Album_Cover.jpg/220px-Ice_Cube_-_The_Predator_-_Album_Cover.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/LethalInjectionCoverArt.jpg/220px-LethalInjectionCoverArt.jpg

^ It's hard to argue with a catalog of this caliber.

laolu
07-19-2012, 09:02 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ee/Canibus_-_Rip_the_Jacker.jpg/220px-Canibus_-_Rip_the_Jacker.jpg

Socrates92
07-19-2012, 09:48 AM
Don Killuminati's another fav of mine.

TheFunkyDrummer
07-19-2012, 09:58 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ee/Canibus_-_Rip_the_Jacker.jpg/220px-Canibus_-_Rip_the_Jacker.jpg
His best album and it's a great one

Yuki
07-19-2012, 10:59 AM
^ mic club is another great canibus album imo

noel411
07-19-2012, 08:52 PM
Killah Priest - Heavy Mental
Cryptic One - The Anti-Mobius Strip Theory

tekunique
07-19-2012, 09:41 PM
Biggie - Life After Death
Eminem - Marshall Mathers LP
GZA - Liquid Swords
Wu-Tang Clan - Forever
Nas - It Was Written

infinite vagina
07-19-2012, 09:51 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8JR2AQlg4l4/TYHHDWKnu5I/AAAAAAAAAo4/0-JEz3N9z08/s1600/Eric-B.-Rakim-Paid-In-Full1.jpg

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/c3/6a/eef1c060ada0ba3d27742210.L.jpg

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/kool%20g%20rap%20Road%20To%20The%20Riches-500x500.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-vaL5WY5aPI/StTc7Gv23oI/AAAAAAAAATw/lvzuKEgWeqg/s1600/61urupQfZ2L__SS500_.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7273/7550575042_5eb8b112bd.jpg

hotnikks
07-20-2012, 10:25 AM
Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer

dont sleep !

Durag
07-20-2012, 10:43 AM
Illmatic, fuck whatever else

TheFunkyDrummer
07-20-2012, 10:49 AM
Illmatic, fuck whatever else

Used to think that until a couple of years ago. Why do people think it's impressive lyrically? Rakim already did it, and did it better. Illmatic is classic because of the whole chemistry, production, it's a raw NY album but it's lyrics are pretty overrated. I think lyrics on tracks like I Gave You Power, The Message, Affirmative Action, Verbal Intercourse, Live At The BBQ, Undying Love and Who Killed It? are better than most of the lyrics on Illmatic. Don't get me wrong, it has amazing lyrics but there are a lot more albums that are way more lyrical. Wu-Tang Forever for the most part is way more lyrical.

Durag
07-20-2012, 10:53 AM
Illmatic shits on Wu Forever. Yeah he has had more singular lyrical tracks but over all Illmatic is more lyrical than any of his other albums.

TheFunkyDrummer
07-20-2012, 11:32 AM
Illmatic shits on Wu Forever. Yeah he has had more singular lyrical tracks but over all Illmatic is more lyrical than any of his other albums.

I agree that overall Illmatic is his by far his most lyrical accomplishment. I disagree with Illmatic shitting on Wu Forever. Wu-Tang Forever is better lyrically, Wu-Tang Forever has 3x the amount of songs Illmatic has and it's not really honest to compare a group to a individual but as far as lyrics go Forever wins from Illmatic. Illmatic might be better as a record, that's debatable although most would prefer Illmatic. I'm not sure but as far as lyrics go no.

theheavens
07-20-2012, 01:48 PM
wu-tang forever might have the best lyrics of any album...but only if you cherry-pick a verse and put it up against another album's verse. so like Nas' NY State of Mind verse vs. Ghost's Impossible verse, or a Pun verse vs. Deck's Triumph. wu tang would win hands down ever time, but that would involve some heavy-ass nitpicking

CEITEDMOFO
07-20-2012, 04:11 PM
WU FORVER IS DOUBLE CD, SO IMA GO WIT LIQUID SWORDZ THAN ILLMATIc

TheFunkyDrummer
07-20-2012, 08:26 PM
Yes it's a double cd, so it's not that fair actually..Liquid Swords is far superior to Illmatic lyrically, anyone who denies hasn't paid enough attention/is lazy.

infinite vagina
07-24-2012, 07:15 AM
ghostface - ironman

best lyrical wu-tang release

John Nash
07-24-2012, 07:20 AM
i think if if u go line 4 line then legend of the liquid sword is the most lyrical. i dont get why so many people r saying LODPAD as most lyrical. most of the songs just had a few good punchlines and the rest was just filler majority of lines didnt even connect

infinite vagina
07-24-2012, 07:21 AM
ironman is more lyrical than liquid swords

KATO
07-24-2012, 09:13 AM
ironman is more lyrical than liquid swords

mtn_QUIALLI

Young Gun
07-24-2012, 02:47 PM
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal
Nas - It Was Written

TheFunkyDrummer
07-24-2012, 02:52 PM
ironman is more lyrical than liquid swords

straight up, get rich or die trying is more lyrical than liquid swords and wu-tang forever combined. Wildflower >>>> KH10304. That song has average lyrics bleh

TheFunkyDrummer
07-24-2012, 02:55 PM
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal
Nas - It Was Written

The Cold Vein is great. I like CanOx's style and El-P bring the heat, that's him at his best arguably. I don't think it's one of the best lyrically. Heltah Skeltah's album has a pretty interesting concept and It Was Written is way too inconsistent for it to be called most lyrical. I like your choices though, they're not the obvious ones and people look different ways at lyrics. I know dudes who think Aesop is the greatest lyricist cause of his abstract style.

KATO
07-24-2012, 03:10 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/eb/Gangstarrmomentoftruth.jpg/220px-Gangstarrmomentoftruth.jpg

Not the MOST lyrical, but deserves recognition IMO

TheFunkyDrummer
07-24-2012, 03:17 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/eb/Gangstarrmomentoftruth.jpg/220px-Gangstarrmomentoftruth.jpg

Not the MOST lyrical, but deserves recognition IMO
Definitely a classic.
Step in the Arena is their best album, Guru bragging and Premier experimenting, the way it should be. SintA > DO. HtE > MoT
Their catalogue is classic. Most people seem to find Moment of Truth is their best, think it has to do with the fact that it's the most easy album from them to listen to.

oldie
07-24-2012, 05:15 PM
Eminem - Infinite

Crazy rhyming, if you don't have it then go get it!

theheavens
07-24-2012, 10:40 PM
the more I listen to him, the more I realize Big Pun was the best MC out there. when the Source ranked him #19, they at least got this part right about him: ""Pun embodied all of the traits of a master wordsmith: melody, a unique flow, an unforgettable voice, humor, and lyrics that made other MCs go back to their black and white composition notebooks."

june181972
07-25-2012, 11:58 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gLqj3VhA77M/SyUH4ZmSU1I/AAAAAAAAD1I/qauObmvplmE/s400/Styles+P+-+Ghost+In+The+Shell.jpg

I would put this "mixtape" up against any album mentioned in this thread lyrically.