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Wamukota X
11-03-2005, 03:17 PM
What really sparked the Paris riots?

Triple B
11-04-2005, 08:19 AM
2 guys from arabic/marrocain origin were hiding inside a highvoltagecell to escape from them coppers, they died from electrocution. That started the riots in the first place. But they were fed by the words of zarkozi, referring to the rioters as garbage, and a gas granate fired into a mosque by the police.

Jesus Shootin Heroin
11-04-2005, 11:04 AM
Yacub is ultimately responsible of course.

Ayatollah Prolific
11-04-2005, 11:45 AM
There are some people of camoroonian and senegalise people involved as well. Together with Morrocans and Tunisians... (make a good soccer team).

TeknicelStylez
11-04-2005, 11:56 AM
Idiots when will people learn that responding with violence is a quick way for them to get what they want.

It's like little kid shit, somebody sticks their tongue out at you, so you go to beat em up and your the one sitting in the corner in the end.

Ayatollah Prolific
11-04-2005, 11:59 AM
it's hard sometimes though, to restrain yourself. But I see your point. Israel definitly used Palestinian's riots and aggression agains them. They ended up grab more land.

num2son
11-04-2005, 12:00 PM
Yacub is ultimately responsible of course.
I thought it was the French being French.

TeknicelStylez
11-04-2005, 04:57 PM
it's hard sometimes though, to restrain yourself. But I see your point. Israel definitly used Palestinian's riots and aggression agains them. They ended up grab more land.It's so obvious when these people do these things to get a rise out of certain races. You can see it done with all the racism subjects popping up in America. They're just dying for minorities to riot so they can have an excuse to throw us under martial law.

JASPER
11-04-2005, 05:27 PM
Can someone explain to me who are being white supremacists and why?

WU-KILLAH
11-05-2005, 02:33 AM
Lol I just whatched CNN and they speak about it like it's civil war, whereas nobody gives a fuck !!! lol at the title of this thred: you obviously don't know shit about France and have never been there. Ain't no racial issue but social issue.
These are just a buch of mothafuckaz that destroy the cars of the people that live in the same hood, they destroy the societies that employ people in hoods where unemployment is very high. More than 90% of the people from these hoods suffers from these mothafuckaz, they try to work honestly and these uneducated kids burn their cars. Finally because of this shit they will make racism grow. And the majority of the immigrant that try to work and live honestly will have to bear the consequenses of the stupidity of a bunch of fools. Lack of education is the real problem.

TeknicelStylez
11-05-2005, 03:44 PM
^^^You definately chill with your friends and say shit like "The fucking niggers keep burning cars"

Don't front.

WU-KILLAH
11-05-2005, 04:22 PM
what ???????????????????????

psyenz
11-05-2005, 05:29 PM
WU-KILLAH, you think the politicians might be happy to let the working class riot in working class areas, thereby creating racial divisions between peoople in those areas and keeping the media occupied, so people grow less concered with the ridiculously high level of unemployment and problems with immigration?
divide and conquer (or supress in this case)
And great work all you US geniuses, keep stoking the fire that creates the smokescreen...

Sicka than aidZ
11-05-2005, 06:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/jameztwo/artcrimeskamakazi.jpg

whites,blacks,reds an yellows painted this in paris france to mourn the japanese atom bombings

why's there so many neverending racial threads. i doubt there was much hate after this burner hit the hangar, amongst the multi racial bomb squad that ripped it up. the shits epic. its fuckin huge. peace

Sicka than aidZ
11-05-2005, 06:54 PM
its like 40 taggers on an airplane hangar, they gettin along

Golden_Armz
11-06-2005, 07:23 AM
France Riots = Great News

Sicka than aidZ
11-06-2005, 02:00 PM
place is outta control i guess. sorry for doubting your thread, the title kinda made me think u were bashing white people, sorry

WU-KILLAH
11-06-2005, 03:02 PM
Well, again, foreign journalists are really exagerating the thing. I guess it make them sell more papers. They say arabs or blacks are destroying everything, whereas it's a minority, while the majority is hidden in their appartment fearing these mothafuckaz. But it's better for CNN, Fox News, BBC to generalize the situation. Right now who's happy with what's goin on ? the extrem right wing who gets the best free advertisement they could dream about with the complicity of journalist that make it a big show, and when I see reactions here, it seems these media are reaching their goal. Who are the victims of this shit : the big majority of the people that lives in these hoods who get their cars, schools etc burnt by people who beat to death a man in front of his wife and daughter and tried to burn alive a woman yesterday.
But lets hope this will make politicians move their ass to improove the situation in some hoods.

TeknicelStylez
11-06-2005, 04:26 PM
But lets hope this will make politicians move their ass to improove the situation in some hoods.



LOL yea ok that'll happen. And you would expect this to occur out of excessive policing of the area. Your the same kid thats gonna vote for martial law when it comes around lol.

Wamukota X
11-07-2005, 08:04 AM
Lol I just whatched CNN and they speak about it like it's civil war, whereas nobody gives a fuck !!! lol at the title of this thred: you obviously don't know shit about France and have never been there. Ain't no racial issue but social issue.
These are just a buch of mothafuckaz that destroy the cars of the people that live in the same hood, they destroy the societies that employ people in hoods where unemployment is very high. More than 90% of the people from these hoods suffers from these mothafuckaz, they try to work honestly and these uneducated kids burn their cars. Finally because of this shit they will make racism grow. And the majority of the immigrant that try to work and live honestly will have to bear the consequenses of the stupidity of a bunch of fools. Lack of education is the real problem.
Peace,

You are very disrespectful in you comment, "...the title of this thred: you obviously don't know shit about France and have never been there." I overstand your way of thinking. I disagree with your comment but I will not be disrespectful of your views.

WU-KILLAH
11-07-2005, 09:41 AM
Sorry but if I you felt hurt by my comment but your title is agressive I think.

LOL yea ok that'll happen. And you would expect this to occur out of excessive policing of the area. Your the same kid thats gonna vote for martial law when it comes around lol.

"Your the same kid that ...." you seem to know me very well. If you only saw where the fuck I live and how I look like you would be surprised. And if you were in front of me you wouldn't call me a kid anyway, knowing some people in the world behind their computers don't believe me won't hurt my ass actually. Have a nice day.

TeknicelStylez
11-07-2005, 01:42 PM
Same thing for you champ, you don't know who the fuck I am. So relax yourself equally, and stop being an E-Thug. That's A, and B, I just said I don't like the way you think. You sound like a closet racist, and a person thats manipulated easily based on your view points.

My Opinion.

If you don't like it = Fuck You

FIDM 85
11-07-2005, 02:50 PM
Please Go Visit The "applies 2any W/a Brain" Thread. Thanks!

GENERAL WISE
11-07-2005, 03:41 PM
I believ the whole incident was blown out of porportions
but i am not from France and have no idea what the immigrants were going through.

Murdah Piff
11-07-2005, 03:55 PM
french got a different mentality than you yanks you gotta understand that

snapple
11-07-2005, 06:36 PM
Idiots when will people learn that responding with violence is a quick way for them to get what they want.

It's like little kid shit, somebody sticks their tongue out at you, so you go to beat em up and your the one sitting in the corner in the end.
yyeeeaaa son you tough, good thing you weren't the president during the cold war. dumbass...

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-07-2005, 08:36 PM
peace.

The situation over there makes sense to me..as in this is karma and only a natural reaction to the powers that be, and I'm not trying to justify it. But it is a direct result of people's inability to tolerate anymore nonsense. Anyways, it seems people in this thread are making this out to be only an urban struggle.., which is wrong. The entire incident actually includes the suburbs as well...

Here are some things in this thread that I think are not being considered or are being overlooked by the people within it...and possibly the media as well.

1. Colonization: The thing about France is....most Africans and Arabs have been COLONIZED by them in their own countries. And if you know anything about colonizing...it's a bad deal...completely treacherous. And because of France's ancient ties to colonization and other negativity.....these people..in a sense..are in the belly of the beast, and have been for a number of years..so people shouldn't act shocked that all of the sudden the tolerance has ran out amongst the working class, the nearly impoverished, and the impoverished.

2. Suburban Family status/condition: It is a known fact...that many of the families within the suburbs are practically dysfunctional...atleast 50% of them are. Suburban schools have extremely high dropout rates there..which then leaves the youths with either drug use, or dealing them; or they get involved with gangs...and commit crimes of all sorts. Alot of suburban youths are "upset" at everything and their local surroundings. And yo, we're not talking about just 16, 17 year olds and older....we're talking young cats....12...13..who are pissed as well. Plus, you have to remember, young kids in suburban situations.....who "have" this or that..., SOMETIMES....see no use in "adding" onto what they already "have." So motivation is at an all time low.

3. Urban family status/condition: Same exact thing. Here, kids are usually left only with mothers...who have to play both roles...mother and father. And because alot of the people in the urban communities are arabs..from extreme patriarchal societies....they have NO IDEA how to run the father role. These women want to live a life similar to their French well-off counterparts...which is not possible under these type of conditions. And because of the fathers are missing, they have no influence in the offspring's life. And if you take a glance at the French judiciary system.....99.9% of the time....all the RIGHTS will directly end up with the mothers..instead of the fathers. Kids within this realm...do the same thing as the kids in the suburbs...drop out, sell drugs, do drugs...and get involved in a life led by crime (but not PETTY like the suburbanites...these cats are into more extreme crimes). To also make matters worse, because of the terrible situation over there for the people in the urban communites and the lack of EFFORT by the french government to get INVOLVED AND PROVIDE PROGRAMS FOR THESE EXPLOITED PEOPLE who earn hardly any type of real income, they actually end up aiding their kids in the drug game...the street life...so some MONEY can come into the house...and they can have something to eat. It's crazy....SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS LOOK LIKE OURS OVER HERE.. **on a side-note....there are a number of africans here as well obviously**

4. The Government: to look at the suburbs--> I'd say for eons they have ignored the troubles within the suburbs.., but most "Experts" would say....the government has been disregarding the growing problems and concerns in the suburbs for probably atleast 50 some years. France has just completely ignored them and any related issues. *to look at the urban areas--> now you know, if the suburbs are being neglected and having to deal with the nonsense...then what does that tell you about these parts? It's going to be EVEN WORSE...magnified times 1000. Overall: The government has kept its face in the dirt for too long...and continues to be on its bullshit, and unfortunately..or fortunately (depending on who you are) ...people are sick of it. The deaths of the 2 kids....this incident...is ALOT deeper than 2 kids being electrocuted.....believe that.

5. Europe: with all respect, europe is going to have to understand that ...it HAS TO ACCEPT that "minorities" or "immigrants" will be PRESENT in their countries...and they have to accept these people in all aspects...and treat them as citizens. IF NOT, WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW...WILL SPREAD...AND EUROPE WILL HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COVER-UP THE TRUTH....AND DISREGARDING THESE PEOPLE, IT IS ONLY SO LONG..BEFORE TRUTH SURFACES..AND IT IS. If Europe does not CHANGE its old ways..and stops fakin the funk on the surface, its FUTURE WILL BE IN GREAT JEOPARDY. Don't think for a second...that "immigrants" elsewhere..in similar positions...aren't contemplating the same "attack" or really violent "response" to the nonsense.


6. Racism/discrimination/etc: this speaks for itself...


7. The French: c'mon....the FRENCH LOVE REVOLUTION(s)....!!!

George W Bush, you better take heed.., because if we pop it off over here in the states....we're a different breed....something no one has ever seen before.


PEACE.

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

Murdah Piff
11-07-2005, 10:47 PM
peace.

The situation over there makes sense to me..as in this is karma and only a natural reaction to the powers that be, and I'm not trying to justify it. But it is a direct result of people's inability to tolerate anymore nonsense. Anyways, it seems people in this thread are making this out to be only an urban struggle.., which is wrong. The entire incident actually includes the suburbs as well...

Here are some things in this thread that I think are not being considered or are being overlooked by the people within it...and possibly the media as well.

1. Colonization: The thing about France is....most Africans and Arabs have been COLONIZED by them in their own countries. And if you know anything about colonizing...it's a bad deal...completely treacherous. And because of France's ancient ties to colonization and other negativity.....these people..in a sense..are in the belly of the beast, and have been for a number of years..so people shouldn't act shocked that all of the sudden the tolerance has ran out amongst the working class, the nearly impoverished, and the impoverished.

2. Suburban Family status/condition: It is a known fact...that many of the families within the suburbs are practically dysfunctional...atleast 50% of them are. Suburban schools have extremely high dropout rates there..which then leaves the youths with either drug use, or dealing them; or they get involved with gangs...and commit crimes of all sorts. Alot of suburban youths are "upset" at everything and their local surroundings. And yo, we're not talking about just 16, 17 year olds and older....we're talking young cats....12...13..who are pissed as well. Plus, you have to remember, young kids in suburban situations.....who "have" this or that..., SOMETIMES....see no use in "adding" onto what they already "have." So motivation is at an all time low.

3. Urban family status/condition: Same exact thing. Here, kids are usually left only with mothers...who have to play both roles...mother and father. And because alot of the people in the urban communities are arabs..from extreme patriarchal societies....they have NO IDEA how to run the father role. These women want to live a life similar to their French well-off counterparts...which is not possible under these type of conditions. And because of the fathers are missing, they have no influence in the offspring's life. And if you take a glance at the French judiciary system.....99.9% of the time....all the RIGHTS will directly end up with the mothers..instead of the fathers. Kids within this realm...do the same thing as the kids in the suburbs...drop out, sell drugs, do drugs...and get involved in a life led by crime (but not PETTY like the suburbanites...these cats are into more extreme crimes). To also make matters worse, because of the terrible situation over there for the people in the urban communites and the lack of EFFORT by the french government to get INVOLVED AND PROVIDE PROGRAMS FOR THESE EXPLOITED PEOPLE who earn hardly any type of real income, they actually end up aiding their kids in the drug game...the street life...so some MONEY can come into the house...and they can have something to eat. It's crazy....SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS LOOK LIKE OURS OVER HERE.. **on a side-note....there are a number of africans here as well obviously**

4. The Government: to look at the suburbs--> I'd say for eons they have ignored the troubles within the suburbs.., but most "Experts" would say....the government has been disregarding the growing problems and concerns in the suburbs for probably atleast 50 some years. France has just completely ignored them and any related issues. *to look at the urban areas--> now you know, if the suburbs are being neglected and having to deal with the nonsense...then what does that tell you about these parts? It's going to be EVEN WORSE...magnified times 1000. Overall: The government has kept its face in the dirt for too long...and continues to be on its bullshit, and unfortunately..or fortunately (depending on who you are) ...people are sick of it. The deaths of the 2 kids....this incident...is ALOT deeper than 2 kids being electrocuted.....believe that.

5. Europe: with all respect, europe is going to have to understand that ...it HAS TO ACCEPT that "minorities" or "immigrants" will be PRESENT in their countries...and they have to accept these people in all aspects...and treat them as citizens. IF NOT, WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW...WILL SPREAD...AND EUROPE WILL HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COVER-UP THE TRUTH....AND DISREGARDING THESE PEOPLE, IT IS ONLY SO LONG..BEFORE TRUTH SURFACES..AND IT IS. If Europe does not CHANGE its old ways..and stops fakin the funk on the surface, its FUTURE WILL BE IN GREAT JEOPARDY. Don't think for a second...that "immigrants" elsewhere..in similar positions...aren't contemplating the same "attack" or really violent "response" to the nonsense.


6. Racism/discrimination/etc: this speaks for itself...


7. The French: c'mon....the FRENCH LOVE REVOLUTION(s)....!!!

George W Bush, you better take heed.., because if we pop it off over here in the states....we're a different breed....something no one has ever seen before.


PEACE.

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN
THE TRUTH

Golden_Armz
11-08-2005, 05:45 AM
Yeah Man Some Good Info There 4real

Wamukota X
11-08-2005, 06:33 AM
SubliminaL tha 7th BorN excellent response. I want to add on to what you said.
Many people never heard of the Partition of Africa aka "The Scramble for Africa", which started around 1880, but was fully organized after the Berlin Conference which took place in November 1884 to February 1885. France, Germany, Great Britain and various other European nations decided how they would "carve up" or colonize Africa for themselves. Many people do not know, because it is not taught in Western schools, that by the end of the 1800's and the early 1900's the entire continent of Africa was under European control. An indept study of this subject would reveal to the reader how many thousands lives were lost on both sides.

Born Ruler I
11-08-2005, 11:04 AM
See Algiers and Haiti....

France has its history of problematic relationships with Black people. They've even dug up their response to the Battle of Algiers from April 3, 1955, allowing police to kick in the doors of suspected 'weapons stockpilers.'

Right. Most of these kids are throwing rocks and molotov cocktails.

Like the freedom fighters in South Afrika.

France doesn't officially recognize race, so people are free to discriminate because they are 'just discriminating against people, not a particular kind of people...."

Puhleeze....

One

One

Aqueous Moon
11-08-2005, 11:08 AM
Peace

Great breakdown, Subliminal

Informative add - on, Wamukotax

Keep dropping the 1

TeknicelStylez
11-08-2005, 01:01 PM
yyeeeaaa son you tough, good thing you weren't the president during the cold war. dumbass...
Excuse me, but I don't see the relevance in the context of your response to what I posted.

Wtf does the cold war have to do with media induced rioting?

snapple
11-08-2005, 03:16 PM
^^ it doesn't....i commented on what i quoted from you.....

TeknicelStylez
11-08-2005, 05:50 PM
OK and I was commenting on the ill effects of media induced rioting.

And than you posted something about the cold war....

Visionz
11-09-2005, 07:22 AM
peace.

The situation over there makes sense to me..as in this is karma and only a natural reaction to the powers that be, and I'm not trying to justify it. But it is a direct result of people's inability to tolerate anymore nonsense. Anyways, it seems people in this thread are making this out to be only an urban struggle.., which is wrong. The entire incident actually includes the suburbs as well...

Here are some things in this thread that I think are not being considered or are being overlooked by the people within it...and possibly the media as well.

1. Colonization: The thing about France is....most Africans and Arabs have been COLONIZED by them in their own countries. And if you know anything about colonizing...it's a bad deal...completely treacherous. And because of France's ancient ties to colonization and other negativity.....these people..in a sense..are in the belly of the beast, and have been for a number of years..so people shouldn't act shocked that all of the sudden the tolerance has ran out amongst the working class, the nearly impoverished, and the impoverished.

2. Suburban Family status/condition: It is a known fact...that many of the families within the suburbs are practically dysfunctional...atleast 50% of them are. Suburban schools have extremely high dropout rates there..which then leaves the youths with either drug use, or dealing them; or they get involved with gangs...and commit crimes of all sorts. Alot of suburban youths are "upset" at everything and their local surroundings. And yo, we're not talking about just 16, 17 year olds and older....we're talking young cats....12...13..who are pissed as well. Plus, you have to remember, young kids in suburban situations.....who "have" this or that..., SOMETIMES....see no use in "adding" onto what they already "have." So motivation is at an all time low.

3. Urban family status/condition: Same exact thing. Here, kids are usually left only with mothers...who have to play both roles...mother and father. And because alot of the people in the urban communities are arabs..from extreme patriarchal societies....they have NO IDEA how to run the father role. These women want to live a life similar to their French well-off counterparts...which is not possible under these type of conditions. And because of the fathers are missing, they have no influence in the offspring's life. And if you take a glance at the French judiciary system.....99.9% of the time....all the RIGHTS will directly end up with the mothers..instead of the fathers. Kids within this realm...do the same thing as the kids in the suburbs...drop out, sell drugs, do drugs...and get involved in a life led by crime (but not PETTY like the suburbanites...these cats are into more extreme crimes). To also make matters worse, because of the terrible situation over there for the people in the urban communites and the lack of EFFORT by the french government to get INVOLVED AND PROVIDE PROGRAMS FOR THESE EXPLOITED PEOPLE who earn hardly any type of real income, they actually end up aiding their kids in the drug game...the street life...so some MONEY can come into the house...and they can have something to eat. It's crazy....SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS LOOK LIKE OURS OVER HERE.. **on a side-note....there are a number of africans here as well obviously**

4. The Government: to look at the suburbs--> I'd say for eons they have ignored the troubles within the suburbs.., but most "Experts" would say....the government has been disregarding the growing problems and concerns in the suburbs for probably atleast 50 some years. France has just completely ignored them and any related issues. *to look at the urban areas--> now you know, if the suburbs are being neglected and having to deal with the nonsense...then what does that tell you about these parts? It's going to be EVEN WORSE...magnified times 1000. Overall: The government has kept its face in the dirt for too long...and continues to be on its bullshit, and unfortunately..or fortunately (depending on who you are) ...people are sick of it. The deaths of the 2 kids....this incident...is ALOT deeper than 2 kids being electrocuted.....believe that.

5. Europe: with all respect, europe is going to have to understand that ...it HAS TO ACCEPT that "minorities" or "immigrants" will be PRESENT in their countries...and they have to accept these people in all aspects...and treat them as citizens. IF NOT, WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW...WILL SPREAD...AND EUROPE WILL HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COVER-UP THE TRUTH....AND DISREGARDING THESE PEOPLE, IT IS ONLY SO LONG..BEFORE TRUTH SURFACES..AND IT IS. If Europe does not CHANGE its old ways..and stops fakin the funk on the surface, its FUTURE WILL BE IN GREAT JEOPARDY. Don't think for a second...that "immigrants" elsewhere..in similar positions...aren't contemplating the same "attack" or really violent "response" to the nonsense.


6. Racism/discrimination/etc: this speaks for itself...


7. The French: c'mon....the FRENCH LOVE REVOLUTION(s)....!!!

George W Bush, you better take heed.., because if we pop it off over here in the states....we're a different breed....something no one has ever seen before.


PEACE.

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN


You planning on running for president some day man? You should at least think about it. lol peace

TeknicelStylez
11-09-2005, 12:54 PM
I agree with Subliminal 7th to a certain extent.

Where I disagree is, Bush doesn't need to take heed because if shit pops off in the states THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS. What better than to control America in a police state form. Complete manipulation of a body of people, rationed food, and gonverment reigning freely. It's like taking all the fish out of the ocean and putting them in a barrel, it's easier to shoot.

Visionz
11-10-2005, 06:14 AM
^I understand where you're coming from homie, Bush would love nothing more than to be able to declare martial law and take shit over permantley, but at the same time I think the resistence in a lot of cities across the US would put up a fight they simply wouldn't be expecting. In all honesty I hope we go another way before things are pushed too far into that direction cause shit is gonna get real bloody if it goes down like that.

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-10-2005, 11:18 AM
peace.


Wamukota (sp?..hope I spelled it correctly)....--

Partition Act of Africa, I was about to address that if people were really under the impression this is something new..regarding European intervention (I referred to it as colonization) within Africa. On point, if you can...drop some excerpts from it. I only have books...lol. Besides, I think it'd definitely be beneficial to the audience to take a glance at this document!!

TekNICE--
I c exactly where you are coming from, and completely respect that view. I even feel the same..."that is exactly what Bush wants." But honestly, I think we'd be able to fight back and survive the police state. That may seem farfetched, but I hate to say it..something has to happen. An event big enough that would be a force to wreckon with and would..most importantly...alter how the powers that be....think, which would lend hopefully convince or force them to reform the system that they run...into one that would definitely be by and for the people. That's if..you'd want to rely on them, I'd rather replace them and rely on "us"--knowledgeable people., people are qualified for such roles....and once again..most importantly.....have a LOVE for man, woman, child., not the dollar bill...and would only see the dollar bill as a way to IMPROVE terrible conditions that have existed for years..., but ay..this aint a utopia. But I think president Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has got most of the concept in his mind. (yeah sue me, he's a "leftist," god forbid I think he's alright when in comparison to a mass murderin- money driven- power hungry idiot for a president).

Eric Unseen--
In this system, I couldn't run for president..because of 2 reasons.
1. Because of my views, and hostility towards Bush, the system and this fake democracy they are practicing.....they'd probably assassinate me after my first public speech.
2. Because of this present system, in order to become president..I'd have to lie to you and everyone else; and have a cold perspective towards human life..in order to maintain some type of control here and globally..so my egotistical ass and my cronies would benefit financially.


So, all in all..I'm for the people. Help the people establish a new government, and I'll run... lol

thanx for adding on...

peace

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

Wamukota X
11-10-2005, 11:42 AM
SubliminaL tha 7th BorN All I have is books also, so I wouldn't be able to post anything further about the Partition of Africa only what I know from my reading. It would be very beneificial for the audience to see what has been hidden from us in our so-called education or should I say brainwashing.

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-10-2005, 11:46 AM
peace,


True. So let us find the document online...compare and contrast for authenticity!
Perhaps any information about it would be positive...

peace

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-10-2005, 11:49 AM
peace.


I must go now though. I'll be back as always.........

Let me know what you come up with, I still remember bits and pieces of the Partition within my mind.


Speaking of Acts in Europe, you know one that also got my attention...? The Act between Nazi Germany and the Vatican......crazy. I'll get the name for it later...if anyone is interested. There are people who still deny any ties.....even with actual evidence right in front of their faces, I guess I just accepted it as common knowledge...

peace

SubliminaLtha7thBorN

WU-KILLAH
11-11-2005, 06:10 PM
peace.

The situation over there makes sense to me..as in this is karma and only a natural reaction to the powers that be, and I'm not trying to justify it. But it is a direct result of people's inability to tolerate anymore nonsense. Anyways, it seems people in this thread are making this out to be only an urban struggle.., which is wrong. The entire incident actually includes the suburbs as well...

Here are some things in this thread that I think are not being considered or are being overlooked by the people within it...and possibly the media as well.

1. Colonization: The thing about France is....most Africans and Arabs have been COLONIZED by them in their own countries. And if you know anything about colonizing...it's a bad deal...completely treacherous. And because of France's ancient ties to colonization and other negativity.....these people..in a sense..are in the belly of the beast, and have been for a number of years..so people shouldn't act shocked that all of the sudden the tolerance has ran out amongst the working class, the nearly impoverished, and the impoverished.

2. Suburban Family status/condition: It is a known fact...that many of the families within the suburbs are practically dysfunctional...atleast 50% of them are. Suburban schools have extremely high dropout rates there..which then leaves the youths with either drug use, or dealing them; or they get involved with gangs...and commit crimes of all sorts. Alot of suburban youths are "upset" at everything and their local surroundings. And yo, we're not talking about just 16, 17 year olds and older....we're talking young cats....12...13..who are pissed as well. Plus, you have to remember, young kids in suburban situations.....who "have" this or that..., SOMETIMES....see no use in "adding" onto what they already "have." So motivation is at an all time low.

3. Urban family status/condition: Same exact thing. Here, kids are usually left only with mothers...who have to play both roles...mother and father. And because alot of the people in the urban communities are arabs..from extreme patriarchal societies....they have NO IDEA how to run the father role. These women want to live a life similar to their French well-off counterparts...which is not possible under these type of conditions. And because of the fathers are missing, they have no influence in the offspring's life. And if you take a glance at the French judiciary system.....99.9% of the time....all the RIGHTS will directly end up with the mothers..instead of the fathers. Kids within this realm...do the same thing as the kids in the suburbs...drop out, sell drugs, do drugs...and get involved in a life led by crime (but not PETTY like the suburbanites...these cats are into more extreme crimes). To also make matters worse, because of the terrible situation over there for the people in the urban communites and the lack of EFFORT by the french government to get INVOLVED AND PROVIDE PROGRAMS FOR THESE EXPLOITED PEOPLE who earn hardly any type of real income, they actually end up aiding their kids in the drug game...the street life...so some MONEY can come into the house...and they can have something to eat. It's crazy....SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS LOOK LIKE OURS OVER HERE.. **on a side-note....there are a number of africans here as well obviously**

4. The Government: to look at the suburbs--> I'd say for eons they have ignored the troubles within the suburbs.., but most "Experts" would say....the government has been disregarding the growing problems and concerns in the suburbs for probably atleast 50 some years. France has just completely ignored them and any related issues. *to look at the urban areas--> now you know, if the suburbs are being neglected and having to deal with the nonsense...then what does that tell you about these parts? It's going to be EVEN WORSE...magnified times 1000. Overall: The government has kept its face in the dirt for too long...and continues to be on its bullshit, and unfortunately..or fortunately (depending on who you are) ...people are sick of it. The deaths of the 2 kids....this incident...is ALOT deeper than 2 kids being electrocuted.....believe that.

5. Europe: with all respect, europe is going to have to understand that ...it HAS TO ACCEPT that "minorities" or "immigrants" will be PRESENT in their countries...and they have to accept these people in all aspects...and treat them as citizens. IF NOT, WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW...WILL SPREAD...AND EUROPE WILL HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COVER-UP THE TRUTH....AND DISREGARDING THESE PEOPLE, IT IS ONLY SO LONG..BEFORE TRUTH SURFACES..AND IT IS. If Europe does not CHANGE its old ways..and stops fakin the funk on the surface, its FUTURE WILL BE IN GREAT JEOPARDY. Don't think for a second...that "immigrants" elsewhere..in similar positions...aren't contemplating the same "attack" or really violent "response" to the nonsense.


6. Racism/discrimination/etc: this speaks for itself...


7. The French: c'mon....the FRENCH LOVE REVOLUTION(s)....!!!

George W Bush, you better take heed.., because if we pop it off over here in the states....we're a different breed....something no one has ever seen before.


PEACE.

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

I come back late and just read that. Well Im very impressed of your knowledge of the situation. What you say is the fuckin TRUTH.
But you'll never (again) hear me show respect to people that burnt schools and cars of the poor ones whatever are the reason: comon there are a lot of Porsches and Ferraris in Paris !


stop being an E-Thug
yes please, just stop.

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
11-11-2005, 11:10 PM
peace


Wu Killah- I agree with what you stated. I even told a comrade of mine that I'd be more supportive of the acts..if 1...if they were PRO-ACTIVE instead of reactive, and 2....decided to FOCUS IN ON...AND ATTACK the SOURCE (and its affiliates) of the problem.

peace


SubliminaLtha7thBorN