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LORD NOSE
08-18-2012, 09:59 AM
Revelation 19


4. The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried:

“Amen, Hallelujah!”
5. Then a voice came from the throne, saying:

“Praise our God,
all you his servants,
you who fear him,
both small and great!”



http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3363/fourgospelcreatures.gif



let's find answers

diggy
08-19-2012, 09:06 PM
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1:15 and onward

Have you seen this movie?

How does it tie in to the movie and what the character Blackwood was doing?

LORD NOSE
08-20-2012, 12:37 PM
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1:15 and onward

Have you seen this movie?

How does it tie in to the movie and what the character Blackwood was doing?



nah i didn't see that yet - fint to though - and oh shit - you opened up a can of worms with that one - i'm sure hollywood is trying to throw us off with how they painted it, but as usual, they also left clues - i first saw the 4 as separate but have been trying to figure out how they are one - this clip gives me clues - i can't speak further on it, cause i'm still lost as to what it is -

what do you see in it ?

LORD NOSE
08-20-2012, 12:40 PM
the four scriptures that are named after 4 men are similar to each other - i never knew that those 4 scriptures were connected to the 4 creatures - and maybe they are not - those stories are like 4 different men giving their version of the same story.

i also tried tying astrology into it, since the bible seems to be based off of it.


the name of that movie is sherlock holmes - a game of shadows right ?

diggy
08-20-2012, 09:28 PM
nah i didn't see that yet - fint to though - and oh shit - you opened up a can of worms with that one - i'm sure hollywood is trying to throw us off with how they painted it, but as usual, they also left clues - i first saw the 4 as separate but have been trying to figure out how they are one - this clip gives me clues - i can't speak further on it, cause i'm still lost as to what it is -

what do you see in it ?


Subliminally, I see it as an attack against the 'church'. If those symbols represent a man (Jesus) and those symbols were used in the movie to represent the (murderous) deaths of characters then I guess the message is that the aim of a certain group is to destroy Christianity.


the name of that movie is sherlock holmes - a game of shadows right ?

ya

LORD NOSE
08-21-2012, 01:49 AM
this movie is iLL - haven't finished watching it


got mad subliminals in it - enough to start a new thread with

diggy
08-22-2012, 09:26 PM
The murders of the four men - the lion, ox, eagle, and man, was in the form of a cross. Jesus was said to be put on a cross, so it is in reference to him I believe.

Face of the Golden Falcon
08-23-2012, 12:41 AM
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1971/zodiac.jpg

Astrologically:

The Lion; Leo
The Ox; Taurus
The Eagle; Scorpio (Scorpio was quite regularly associated with an eagle in ancient times)
The Man; Aquarius

These and the twenty-and-four elders gathered around the throne of God, which would be the Sun, the light of the heavens in the zodiac. The twenty-and-four elders could be associated with the 12 signs having both a day and night phase or yin/yang, feminine/masculine period making 24.

LORD NOSE
08-23-2012, 03:24 AM
that's what i was looking for - thanks


but why do you think those 4 were singled out ?


and the Ox made me think of the Ox in chinese astrology


i also notice that they chose those who were the opposite of each sign

ex: taurus is opposite of scorpio and so on


"You see. For Scorpio, the emotional and spiritual connection is the most important detail – a connection in which they can be completely vulnerable with someone and that someone will fully reciprocate that vulnerability. Where Taurus may value the physical and material, Scorpio values the emotional and spiritual motives and desires behind the physical and material resources and acts. Once Scorpio finds the emotional and spiritual depth it is looking for, it finds peace with the physical."

diggy
08-23-2012, 12:11 PM
Thanks Falcon.

They may correspond to the 4 elements which are sometimes used in magic rituals: I know Taurus is earth, Leo is probably fire, Aquarius is obviously water, Scorpio must be air.

LORD NOSE
08-23-2012, 12:36 PM
scorpio water/and fire (i say liquid fire as in lava)

aquarius is air


FOTGF mentioned in another thread about a guardian of some sort

behind the planets (please correct me)

i guess it's a head/person highest in rank that holds a position here on earth among us that is connected to the peak power ......... and distributes this among us for a time -




FMJ - speak on this magic

LORD NOSE
08-23-2012, 12:38 PM
still haven't finished that movie - i watch about 5 to 10 minutes of it at a time - my attention span is foul these days

diggy
08-23-2012, 01:13 PM
Oh, and in the vid I've posted, those 4 parts are the parts of the sphynx which is said to be the gateway to immeasurable power.

Using that chart that Flacon put up, the characters were killed off in a symbolic way as well. Man representing air, was killed in dirt (earth). Ox/bull representing earth, was killed off in a tub of water. The eagle representing water was killed using fire. The lion representing fire was to be killed using air/poisonous gas, but was stopped by Holmes. Each sign was attacked with the opposite sign.

diggy
08-23-2012, 01:23 PM
There seems to be myths and stories behind the signs as well. I wonder if this adds to the plot of the movie.

???

LORD NOSE
08-23-2012, 01:28 PM
to know, will, dare , and keep


is thoth known as a recorder ?

to keep ?

the ibis faced deity

and how would these 4 connect to all of this ?


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9063/loud2.gif

Ra is known to be the Sun god right ?

Leo - Fire

rules the mind

it's heavenly body is the Sun

why does Ra have the face of a falcon ?

LORD NOSE
08-26-2012, 07:48 PM
Oh, and in the vid I've posted, those 4 parts are the parts of the sphynx which is said to be the gateway to immeasurable power.

Using that chart that Flacon put up, the characters were killed off in a symbolic way as well. Man representing air, was killed in dirt (earth). Ox/bull representing earth, was killed off in a tub of water. The eagle representing water was killed using fire. The lion representing fire was to be killed using air/poisonous gas, but was stopped by Holmes. Each sign was attacked with the opposite sign.


i got the right movie this time - but anyway ....

maybe the lion being the only one who survived is supposed to be the great lion of judah -

i'm not seeing how the 4 was morphed into the sphinx though - i thought the sphinx was just man and lion.

didn't even start watching the movie btw - but a story of killing them off may be a way to distract from what was really written on the walls

LORD NOSE
08-27-2012, 03:20 PM
hmmmmm

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9135/702pxcanopicjarsofneskh.jpg

canopic jars - stores the organs of the dead - while looking up organs of the dead in egypt, i came across this and noticed that each jar has the replica of an animal - man being one of those animals -


help me find out what the fuck they tryna say - and make it as plain as you can

sorry that this thread is all over the place - not enough information to connect it correctly - soon come though

diggy
08-27-2012, 11:07 PM
i'm not seeing how the 4 was morphed into the sphinx though - i thought the sphinx was just man and lion.


Just watch that youtube vid I've posted earlier in this thread. It explains what parts make up the sphinx.

Face of the Golden Falcon
08-28-2012, 12:12 AM
One thing I noticed in regards to the way in which the killings happen pointed out by FMJ (good find by the way), is that if we show it real simple like this:

Air destroyed by Earth
Earth destroyed by Water
Water destroyed by Fire
Fire destroyed by Air

It either follows or goes against the natural progession of the seasons ie.
If you take:

Summer/Fire
Autumn.Fall/Air
Winter/Earth
Spring/Water

Autumn/Fall(air) is destroyed by Winter (earth)
Winter (earth) is destroyed by Spring (water)
Spring (water) is destroyed by Summer (fire)
Summer(fire) is destroyed by Autumn/Fall (air)

Some schools of thought have Spring as Air and Autumn as Water however. In which case you would have

Spring destroying Winter
Winter destroying Autumn/Fall
Autumn/Fall destroying Summer
Summer destroying Spring

I'll have a think about the Egyptian correlations as well.

Uncle Steezo
08-28-2012, 12:20 AM
in terms of magick, i took a step back and looked at the motive of the ritual. "to open a dimension to great power"

symbolically you have 2 diagrams of power the pentacle and the cross.

one representing man and the other representing nature.

by offering sacrifice on the points of these two symbols overlaid on each other, an altar is created.

this is basic magick ritual. powerful.

BrokenWrists
08-28-2012, 01:38 AM
http://www.ldolphin.org/camp3.jpg


http://www.ldolphin.org/camp1.jpg

God told Moses and Aaron after taking the Isrealites out of Egypt from slavery, to have the Isrealites build camps under the respective banners of their ancestral houses. (The book of Numbers talks about this.)

Also pertaining to the four animals and man(creatures also known as Cherubim and Seraphim):

Ezekiel 1:10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a human being, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle.

diggy
08-28-2012, 02:17 AM
One thing I noticed in regards to the way in which the killings happen pointed out by FMJ (good find by the way), is that if we show it real simple like this:

Air destroyed by Earth
Earth destroyed by Water
Water destroyed by Fire
Fire destroyed by Air

It either follows or goes against the natural progession of the seasons ie.
If you take:

Summer/Fire
Autumn.Fall/Air
Winter/Earth
Spring/Water

Autumn/Fall(air) is destroyed by Winter (earth)
Winter (earth) is destroyed by Spring (water)
Spring (water) is destroyed by Summer (fire)
Summer(fire) is destroyed by Autumn/Fall (air)

Some schools of thought have Spring as Air and Autumn as Water however. In which case you would have

Spring destroying Winter
Winter destroying Autumn/Fall
Autumn/Fall destroying Summer
Summer destroying Spring

I'll have a think about the Egyptian correlations as well.




Interesting.





in terms of magick, i took a step back and looked at the motive of the ritual. "to open a dimension to great power"

symbolically you have 2 diagrams of power the pentacle and the cross.

one representing man and the other representing nature.

by offering sacrifice on the points of these two symbols overlaid on each other, an altar is created.

this is basic magick ritual. powerful.


Yup, That's the part I was missing. It makes sense now.



Also, the 5 killed in the begining were females, and the 3 killings plus the failed parliament ones were all men. Yin and yang thing going on as well?

You said "one representing man and the other rep nature". I guess the females are the nature (since they have a connection with the moon cycle) and man is man.






Does anybody know of any 'sacrifices' that have occured in history where many people were killed in a magick ritual?

Uncle Steezo
08-28-2012, 06:35 AM
9/11

diggy
08-28-2012, 10:55 AM
So the pentagon reps the pentacle and the two towers rep the cross?

diggy
08-28-2012, 01:02 PM
Is some parts of Washington D.C. an altar?

LORD NOSE
08-30-2012, 05:12 PM
Ezekiel 1:10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a human being, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle.






So the pentagon reps the pentacle and the two towers rep the cross?

deep

TSA
08-30-2012, 05:15 PM
http://www.ldolphin.org/camp3.jpg


http://www.ldolphin.org/camp1.jpg

God told Moses and Aaron after taking the Isrealites out of Egypt from slavery, to have the Isrealites build camps under the respective banners of their ancestral houses. (The book of Numbers talks about this.)

Also pertaining to the four animals and man(creatures also known as Cherubim and Seraphim):

Ezekiel 1:10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a human being, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle.

idk all of this seems simple minded and ignorant if not childish. I feel that jews would come up with something that requires more creative effort then that 8th diagram above. It looks like a black person came up with it

LORD NOSE
08-30-2012, 05:21 PM
i'm seeing these 4 as actual men who may be guardians or distributors of light/knowledge from the throne/brain/highest in rank

they actually bring order to the flock in the end times

perhaps they are connected (brought together) by the 24 elders who had previous knowledge of their purpose and their time - the 24th being the supreme being himself -

this is actually an order - the highest order, ever to exist on this planet - who will establish an unbreakable way/path for the population -

the opposition and it's weirdness was needed in order to bring the necessary friction to cause the birth of that 24th - the pressure was designed to mold diamond -

Face of the Golden Falcon
08-31-2012, 12:13 AM
From my understanding of the ritual of 911 the towers were the 3 pillars of the Tree of Life (don't forget building 7 which had to be brought down to complete the ritual because it had no other reason for coming down. Probably Flight 93 was intended for building 7).

The Tree of Life is the same as the cross anyway both representing nature.

In that Sherlock Holmes video the Pentagram is inverted which represents the burying (murdering) of spirit by having the other 4 arms (representing the 4 elements of the physical plane) driving the 5th arm of spirit into the ground. Holmes mentions that the sphinx is a doorway to enlightenment. So in sacrificing the 4 men there is the sacrifice of truth, nature (neter), enlightenment.

This is the same ritual used on 911 except like I said the Tree of Life instead of the cross.

diggy
08-31-2012, 12:33 PM
What Sunny posted - Ya I know for a fact that at least some magic practitioners use the bible for magic formulas and you seem to know that too and have shown that.

I also read some stuff that suggest that the 3 animal plus man ritual Aka the sphynx is actually a ritual so that man could become god. It has something to do with tree of life and 'angels'.

I guess Blackwood failed to become god.

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 12:51 PM
i see all of that as the hollywood distorted version of what the ancients were trying to give us - sometimes we make things more complex than what they need to be for entertainment purposes - i don't see any of this as magic -

i see it as a recording of what once was and what is to come - seasonal changes, and how it effects and transforms us as humans -

not transformation as in a person changing his face from man to lizard in 2 seconds, but hidden information made simple to aid man to knowing how to live forever and reach his peak potential -


Blackwood wanted to appear immortal and unstoppable - but what he gave the public was all an illusion - he fronted like he was all of that so that the people would treat him like he is all of that instead of just being all of that naturally -

Uncle Steezo
08-31-2012, 01:26 PM
magick is the practice of using the unseen to affect the seen.

diggy
08-31-2012, 01:50 PM
i see all of that as the hollywood distorted version of what the ancients were trying to give us - sometimes we make things more complex than what they need to be for entertainment purposes - i don't see any of this as magic -

i see it as a recording of what once was and what is to come - seasonal changes, and how it effects and transforms us as humans -

not transformation as in a person changing his face from man to lizard in 2 seconds, but hidden information made simple to aid man to knowing how to live forever and reach his peak potential -


Blackwood wanted to appear immortal and unstoppable - but what he gave the public was all an illusion - he fronted like he was all of that so that the people would treat him like he is all of that instead of just being all of that naturally -


I understand.

To me magic is metaphors and if it works at all, then it works psychologically, though Style may disagree wit me.

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 03:56 PM
magick is the practice of using the unseen to affect the seen.


does the practioner of magic see the unseen in order to use it to effect the seen ?



I understand.

To me magic is metaphors and if it works at all, then it works psychologically, though Style may disagree wit me.

using colors, sound, and motion can lure one into a spell and cause them behave other than themselves - deception, lies, illusions, tricks.

ever been on a bus or train when it's coming to a stop but is still moving slow and you look out the window and see another bus pulling off and feel uneasy because of it ?


butt gas is unseen - if you are on a crowded train and some one releases a hot but silent ghost out of their ass, it can effect the seen - and they can be seen holding their noses, or getting up and leaving - however, butt gas is still physical - it can be hot, and if pushed out with force, it can hurt your butt cheeks -

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 04:01 PM
I understand.

To me magic is metaphors and if it works at all, then it works psychologically, though Style may disagree wit me.


magicians/warlocks also use chemicals along with motion,colors and sound to alter the mind state of the person they are trying use their magic on -

some use these to uplift, some use them to breakdown -

rakimkoolgrapwutang
08-31-2012, 04:02 PM
magic is when poets attempt science

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 04:02 PM
splain

rakimkoolgrapwutang
08-31-2012, 04:11 PM
a scientist usually tries 2 look at the world in a cold objective unemotional unbiased way.

a poet usually looks at the world full of emotion meaning is biased to what he wants and most importantly metaphorically. a poet will usually try and connect things through metaphors. a scientist uses experimentation

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 04:58 PM
understood

Face of the Golden Falcon
08-31-2012, 05:38 PM
I understand.

To me magic is metaphors and if it works at all, then it works psychologically, though Style may disagree wit me.

Psychologic; the spirit and the word. This is exactly how magic works. Except not just metaphors but symbology in general.

a scientist usually tries 2 look at the world in a cold objective unemotional unbiased way.

a poet usually looks at the world full of emotion meaning is biased to what he wants and most importantly metaphorically. a poet will usually try and connect things through metaphors. a scientist uses experimentation

And in the end neither of them get it right. At least in your scenario, through what you think of as magic, the poet attempted balancing the hemispheres of the brain by "attempting science". Your cold objective unemotional scientist stays stuck in the left brain and fails to make any real underlying connections between anything and instead whilst understanding the mechanistic "how" of the superficial never gets to the "why" beneath the surface. And despite scientifically prooving that consciousness is constantly effecting the reality we live in, chooses to ignore that and continues to see the world as a cold, lifeless cadavar to stick a knife into.

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 06:39 PM
what is magic ?

diggy
08-31-2012, 07:42 PM
Magic is the systematic and symbolic use of logical fallacies to produce an effect. Of course it does not work. But if one thinks it works, then one could selectively find evidence and convince themselves that it has worked.

Don't believe me that logic is a system of logical fallacies? Look at the foundational claims of magic, then look at a list logical fallacies and see.

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 07:48 PM
please simplify that


make it plain

Face of the Golden Falcon
08-31-2012, 07:53 PM
Style gave a definition of Magic I agree with.

The practice of using the unseen to effect the seen.

The physical is the spiritual and the spiritual is the physical. It's all one and the same. What we call physical is simply what we are able to perceive with the 5 senses. With various technology we have been able to bring certain things into our range of perception and under the banner of "physical". It's all still one and the same thing though. There are still "things" that we cannot perceive but know to exist. Gravity cannot be seen, but the effects of it can. Is gravity physical or spiritual?

Magic was never supposed to be spooky. Magicians were and should always be scientists.

diggy
08-31-2012, 08:13 PM
please simplify that


make it plain





If we analyze the principles of thought on which magic is based, they will probably be found to resolve themselves into two: first, that like produces like, or that an effect resembles its cause; and, second, that things which have once been in contact with each other continue to act on each other at a distance after the physical contact has been severed. The former principle may be called the Law of Similarity, the latter the Law of Contact or Contagion. From the first of these principles, namely the Law of Similarity, the magician infers that he can produce any effect he desires merely by imitating it: from the second he infers that whatever he does to a material object will affect equally the person with whom the object was once in contact, whether it formed part of his body or not.

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 08:14 PM
to me, gravity,light,sound,electricity is all physical -

these "things" mentioned can move you, cut you, change you, etc...


gravity to me is just the force of sound pushing you down -

the spinning motion of the earth holding you down

diggy
08-31-2012, 08:15 PM
Have you ever touched those things? If not, then they are not physical.

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 08:21 PM
there are allot of things that i have not touched - but are still in existence

if it exist, then it is indeed physical

we don't touch the wind - the winds touch us

we don't touch the sun, the sun touches us

gravity is a force that pins us in place - it exist - the word gravity may be used to describe what is happening to us, but to make it plain, i'll use it as the name of a very physical situation

diggy
08-31-2012, 08:30 PM
SMh

There are tangible things (things that can be touched)
There are intangible things (things that cannot be touched)

If it exists, does not mean it is physical. Smh

The wind does not touch us, we SENSE it. Same with the heat of the sun.

You are sounding uneducated.

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 08:40 PM
SMh

There are tangible things (things that can be touched)
There are intangible things (things that cannot be touched)

If it exists, does not mean it is physical. Smh

The wind does not touch us, we SENSE it. Same with the heat of the sun.

You are sounding uneducated.

that's because i am uneducated, untrained to speak of these things the way the world says we should speak on them

the way i see it, the sun does "touch" us - if it touches us too hard, we end up with sun burn - the way i see it, if it can burn you, it is very physical -

the wind can lift you up and throw you - so i see that as a very physical thing


if we are able to label it, and it effects us in any way, then it exist - if it exist, then it is physical - i speak like this in order to make it plain and simple - and real.

Face of the Golden Falcon
08-31-2012, 08:41 PM
tan·gi·ble

   /ˈtændʒəbəl/ [/URL]Show Spelled[tan-juh-buhl] [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html"] (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html)Show IPA
adjective 1. capable of being touched; discernible by the touch; material or substantial.

2. real or actual, rather than imaginary or visionary: the tangible benefits of sunshine.


Doesn't the process of sensing the wind involve touch? Or are you saying the wind is imaginary or visionary?

LORD NOSE
08-31-2012, 08:42 PM
the word gravity may be used to describe what is happening to us, but to make it plain, i'll use it as the name of a very physical situation


FMJ
this part doesn't make sense - i wrote it like that for a reason - reread the thread -

diggy
08-31-2012, 09:16 PM
tan·gi·ble

   /ˈtændʒəbəl/ Show Spelled[tan-juh-buhl] Show IPA
adjective 1. capable of being touched; discernible by the touch; material or substantial.

2. real or actual, rather than imaginary or visionary: the tangible benefits of sunshine.


Doesn't the process of sensing the wind involve touch? Or are you saying the wind is imaginary or visionary?


It involves touch not literally, but metaphorically.

Not saying wind is imaginary at all.

diggy
08-31-2012, 09:17 PM
FMJ
this part doesn't make sense - i wrote it like that for a reason - reread the thread -


gravity
grave

diggy
08-31-2012, 09:20 PM
the way i see it, the sun does "touch" us - if it touches us too hard, we end up with sun burn - the way i see it, if it can burn you, it is very physical -

the wind can lift you up and throw you - so i see that as a very physical thing

You've personified those things. Figure of speech.


if we are able to label it, and it effects us in any way, then it exist - if it exist, then it is physical - i speak like this in order to make it plain and simple - and real.

ok

Face of the Golden Falcon
08-31-2012, 09:32 PM
It involves touch not literally, but metaphorically.

Not saying wind is imaginary at all.

http://www.faqs.org/health/topics/3/Touch.html#ixzz25BJ5ua5F
Touch is based on nerve receptors in the skin that send electrical messages through the central nervous system to the cerebral cortex in the brain, which interprets these electrical codes.

Nerve endings that lie in or just below the epidermis cells respond to various outside stimuli, which are categorized into four basic stimuli: pressure, pain, hot, and cold.


This is what happens when sensing the wind. Nothing metaphoric about it at all.

diggy
08-31-2012, 09:46 PM
ya, you're right.

when I wrote that I had in mind that sunny said the wind touches us . I was saying that the wind does not touch. humans touch.

humans sense the wind. the sensation of touch is with us (inside of us) not the wind.

rakimkoolgrapwutang
09-01-2012, 06:36 AM
yes scientists and poets r too much on one side of the brain.

wind is a bunch of gas partiles travelling in 1 direction so the particles touch us. its not a force lol.

gravity however is a force that we cant touch but maybe in the future that will b disproved or possibly not.

and what exactly is 'unseen' i cant see sub atomic particles and they effect things i can see.

LORD NOSE
09-01-2012, 09:28 AM
wind is a bunch of gas partiles travelling in 1 direction so the particles touch us. its not a force lol.


i thought about this before i wrote what i wrote - but something has to be pushing those particles - there has to be some type of force behind it in order for it to move - i would just say that it is a force -

with speakers - loud speakers - there is usually a hole cut out in it - the louder the sound/music, the stronger the wind/air

sound is the source of the wind -

what is the difference between air and wind ?

and what is force ?

D.projectile
09-01-2012, 10:06 AM
commands-intent is force
?

rakimkoolgrapwutang
09-01-2012, 10:26 AM
i thought about this before i wrote what i wrote - but something has to be pushing those particles - there has to be some type of force behind it in order for it to move - i would just say that it is a force -

with speakers - loud speakers - there is usually a hole cut out in it - the louder the sound/music, the stronger the wind/air

sound is the source of the wind -

what is the difference between air and wind ?

and what is force ?

the particles obviously have kinetic energy hence why theyre able 2 move. same reason why i can move when no force is pushing me.

sound isnt the source of wind.

air is the atmospheric substance above the surface of the earth. its made up of different gases. wind is the movement of gas particles.

a force is an influence that causes an object to move. gravity magnetism friction etc

D.projectile
09-01-2012, 10:59 AM
a force is an influence

what kinda influence?

rakimkoolgrapwutang
09-01-2012, 01:31 PM
what kinda influence?

forces like gravity influence the direction of an object. anything that causes an object to accelerate is a force so definitely influences the direction.

another influence is its shape. a force can dent something.

diggy
09-01-2012, 02:10 PM
something has to be pushing those particles - there has to be some type of force behind it in order for it to move - i would just say that it is a force -

It is the heat of the sun which results in wind.

LORD NOSE
09-01-2012, 03:16 PM
well.... the sun is very loud

rakimkoolgrapwutang
09-01-2012, 03:20 PM
It is the heat of the sun which results in wind.

no...

LORD NOSE
09-01-2012, 04:13 PM
so what is winds source ?

pro.Graveface
09-01-2012, 04:41 PM
clouds

rakimkoolgrapwutang
09-01-2012, 05:20 PM
so what is winds source ?

wind is when gas particles r moving in the same direction. adding heat energy or another form of energy to these particles will give them the energy to move

LORD NOSE
09-02-2012, 08:10 PM
how can one "Know" something by heart ?


what does it mean to know something by heart when thought is thought to exclusively be processed in the brain ?

what does it really mean to know ?

diggy
09-15-2013, 10:10 PM
in terms of magick, i took a step back and looked at the motive of the ritual. "to open a dimension to great power"

symbolically you have 2 diagrams of power the pentacle and the cross.

one representing man and the other representing nature.

by offering sacrifice on the points of these two symbols overlaid on each other, an altar is created.

this is basic magick ritual. powerful.

Also, symbolically, man was put on the cross (Jesus).



There was also Hebrew letters used in the movie. Interesting how the tooth of a lion was used. And it is the letter SHIN in Hebrew. Shin symbolically means fire (fire looks like a tooth when it burns) and fire is the element of the lion (leo).

Aleph in the Hebrew alphabet means ox and an ox was used in the ritual.

Nun is a letter as well and it means seed, and a new generation of life, so it could rep man as well as other things. Symbolically, some have written that the letter Nun even looks like a man.


http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/28_chart.html

http://hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/aleph-bet.html


Earlier in the movie, Lord BLackwood convinces others he has ressurected.

The killing ritual also implies the resurrection of man:
Man (rep air) was killed by Ox (earth). - So man is dead.
Ox (earth) killed by eagle (water).
Eagle (water) killed by Lion (fire).
Lion (fire) killed by man (air). - In order for man to kill lion, he must have been resurrected. - Jesus symbolism again (according to Bible)

V4D3R
09-21-2013, 06:55 PM
how can one "Know" something by heart ?


what does it mean to know something by heart when thought is thought to exclusively be processed in the brain ?

what does it really mean to know ?
Again with the heart. The Ib knows shit your brain forgets.
What made us so fuckin stupid compared to the ancients?
These fuck nuts that have knowledge and wont share.

BTW I see a Niburu pole shift Lemuria/Atlantis connection in this cross aspect of it. I will get back.

V4D3R
09-21-2013, 07:06 PM
The cross can be a warning symbol about the natural cycle of this solar system and the imminent pole shift thats happened before and will happen again and again.