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food for thought
10-26-2012, 05:55 PM
Forecasters said on Friday that there was a 90 percent certainty that Hurricane Sandy would make landfall on the East Coast, but cautioned that it was too early to say where the giant storm would strike or how intense its winds would be when it hit.

The storm, now moving northwest at about 10 miles per hour, may stay off the coast in the Atlantic Ocean until Monday or Tuesday, but will likely combine with a colder weather system from the west to dump more than one foot of snow — perhaps as much as two feet — in the Appalachian Mountains of West Virginia, and cause strong winds all the way to the Ohio River Valley and eastern Great Lakes region.

The storm is also expected to dump as much as 10 inches of rain in the area where it makes landfall and to create a significant storm surge that will lead to flooding throughout a large coastal area, perhaps most seriously in Delaware, forecasters said.

“We expect a long-lasting event — two to three days for most people,” said James Franklin, branch chief of the National Hurricane Center in a conference call on Friday. It is, Mr. Franklin said, “a very large system.”

On Friday morning, the hurricane tore through the Bahamas with 100-m.p.h. winds, after killing at least 28 people in the Caribbean. By noon, the system was moving north out of the Bahamas, as a Category 1 storm, with wind speeds of 80 m.p.h., Mr. Franklin said.

The hurricane is likely to turn northeast late Friday or Saturday, roughly parallel to the Carolina coast, forecasters said.

Coastal areas of the United States, from Florida to North Carolina, were under a tropical storm watch Friday.

Meteorologists say that while early storm projections can be unreliable, this storm will cause major disruptions in an area larger than Hurricane Irene in 2011, which caused billions of dollars of damage.

“It really could be an extremely significant, historic storm,” said Brian McNoldy, a senior research associate at the University of Miami, explaining that conditions are similar to those that created the famous “perfect storm” of 1991.

The chain of events that would make Hurricane Sandy develop into a grave threat to the coast involves a storm system known as a midlatitude trough that is moving across the country from the west. If the systems meet up, as many computer models predict, the storm over land could draw the hurricane in.

“Now you’ve got this giant storm complex with a lot of energy,” said Dennis Feltgen, a meteorologist and spokesman for the National Hurricane Center.

In New York, officials were preparing for a strong possibility of transit closings, with winds expected to be above the range that would prompt the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to halt some service.

The National Weather Service is predicting sustained winds of 40 to 50 miles an hour starting late Monday for the New York region. The transportation authority’s hurricane plan calls for the “orderly shutdown of service before the arrival of sustained winds of 39 mph or higher” in the elevated portions of the subway system and the agency’s railroads. Most of the city’s subway lines contain some outdoor or elevated stretches.

The authority did not rule out the possibility of shutting down the entire subway system, as it did, for the first time, in advance of Tropical Storm Irene last year.

Around the city, high school admissions tests scheduled for Sunday were postponed, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg urged New Yorkers to stay out of city parks starting on Sunday, and the Buildings Department ordered all outdoor work at construction sites to halt Saturday evening.

In New Jersey, mandatory evacuations are in place for Sunday for several coastal areas, including barrier coastal islands and Delaware Bay communities in Cape May County and in Brigantine. Voluntary evacuations for those areas were being implemented for Friday and Saturday.

Such storm combinations have happened before: one that occurred 21 years ago developed into what is now known as the “perfect storm” off the coast of New England. That disaster was memorialized in a 1997 book and a 2000 movie by the same name.

“Essentially, all of the major models are now showing some form of phasing event similar to the perfect storm occurring sometime next week,” said William A. Komaromi, a graduate student at the University of Miami who posted an essay online on Thursday comparing Hurricane Sandy to the 1991 event.

Mr. Feltgen said that “everybody along the U.S. East Coast needs to be paying attention to this right now,” though he added that “we’re not telling people to rush to the grocery stores.” It is a time, he suggested, for watchful waiting. “Let’s not go overboard with this thing,” he said, “but you should at least start becoming aware of it.”

Mr. McNoldy said, “You want to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.” Even if the storm’s wind power weakens substantially, as Hurricane Irene showed, “rainfall can still be extremely high.” Mr. McNoldy’s posts on Twitter about Hurricane Sandy now bear the label “frankenstorm.”

The storm is approaching in the middle of preparations for the presidential election on Nov. 6 and could disrupt plans for early voting in some areas, with unpredictable results. Mark McKinnon, a former media strategist for President George W. Bush who went on to found No Labels, a group promoting bipartisanship, said that the hurricane brought to the campaigns something they both dread: uncertainty.

“Campaigns are all about control,” he said. “So in the closing days, they fear any external events that could disrupt the game plan. Ain’t no leashes for Mother Nature.”

The hurricane has killed at least 11 people in Cuba and damaged thousands of buildings there, according to The Associated Press. At least 16 people have also died in Haiti, and one person in Jamaica.

David Chen and Matt Flegenheimer contributed reporting.

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CEITEDMOFO
10-26-2012, 06:45 PM
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drippie k
10-27-2012, 02:16 PM
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EAGLE EYE
10-27-2012, 02:22 PM
RIP to Heat's house and the rest of jersey

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CEITEDMOFO
10-27-2012, 04:14 PM
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SKAMPOE
10-27-2012, 05:54 PM
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EAGLE EYE
10-27-2012, 09:58 PM
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fatboy has a message for ya'll

CEITEDMOFO
10-28-2012, 02:48 PM
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EAGLE EYE
10-28-2012, 03:00 PM
Sounds like this may be NYC's Katrina

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CEITEDMOFO
10-28-2012, 03:10 PM
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EAGLE EYE
10-28-2012, 03:16 PM
I wonder if anon will like.. Send out a ddos attack to stop the storm

check two
10-28-2012, 03:20 PM
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your belly should help protect you

CEITEDMOFO
10-28-2012, 03:43 PM
DONT WORRY CHECK IF I LIVED IN YOUR APARTMENT WE WOULD PROBABLY GET FLOODED BUT I LIVE IN A 3 STORY HOUsE

check two
10-28-2012, 03:59 PM
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CEITEDMOFO
10-28-2012, 04:47 PM
I STILL REMEMBER IRENE
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EAGLE EYE
10-28-2012, 04:59 PM
DONT WORRY CHECK IF I LIVED IN YOUR APARTMENT WE WOULD PROBABLY GET FLOODED BUT I LIKE IN A 3 STORY HOUsE

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CEITEDMOFO
10-28-2012, 06:57 PM
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EAGLE EYE
10-28-2012, 07:10 PM
You and Skamp are gonna lose your internet and power in like 24hrs



I predict a minimum of 4 days 6 hours before restored
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EAGLE EYE
10-28-2012, 07:15 PM
Also the HAARPY boys will trigger a Tsunami, thus wipping out the eastern seaboard and all occupy camps
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CEITEDMOFO
10-28-2012, 07:27 PM
THERE WAS POWER OUTAGES IN MY CITY DURING IRENE, BUT NOT MY BLOCK CAUSE WERE THE 1%, WE HAD A 1 SEC POWER OUTAGE
I STILL REMEMBER IRENE
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Mr. R&B
10-28-2012, 09:34 PM
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Ban this faggot for that autoplay fuckery.

FatherSl!me
10-28-2012, 09:49 PM
Stop you're bloodclot cryin^^

EAGLE EYE
10-28-2012, 10:06 PM
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EAGLE EYE
10-28-2012, 11:15 PM
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Haha jersey is gonna be wiped off the map

Heat is gonna be running around like heineken guy - but looting radio shacks 4 windows phones

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CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 12:07 AM
ATLANTIC CITY , AND TOMSRIVER SUPPOSE TO GET HIT HARD
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/njnewzz.gif
WERE IN THE CLEAR
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EAGLE EYE
10-29-2012, 12:13 AM
WE MILE HIGH 1 PERCENTERS PLAN to "GIVE BACK" TO ALL OF THE SANDY SURVIVORS

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CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 12:21 AM
IM PRETTY SURE 2012 IS REAL ,
BECAUSE PEYTON COULD HAVE WENT TO A MORE COMPLETE DEFENSIVE & OFFENSIVE TEAM WITH THE 49ERS ,
BUT JOHN ELWAY SOLD HIM WITH MANNINGS SAFETY WITH THE SECRET DENVER AIRPORT UNDERGROUND SPAs
http://static03.mediaite.com/sportsgrid/uploads/2012/03/manning-elway.jpg

FatherSl!me
10-29-2012, 12:50 AM
Peyton will bring back the Broncos back to glory. Mark my words

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 07:30 AM
why isnt this on PPV??

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CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 08:24 AM
IF THE TSNUMANI THING HAPPENED I WOULD BE HIT SINCE I CANT SWIM
I LIVE IN THE HIGHEST PART OF MY CITY SO I DOUBT IT CAN REACH THE GOD
, SKAMP MIGHT MUTATE THOUGH

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IronSheik
10-29-2012, 09:14 AM
The worst isn't supposed to hit the NYC region til after 4 p.m


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Same shot as earlier from battery park esplanade, but water now about 4-5 inches deep #sandy (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sandy) twitpic.com/b8hlkh (http://twitpic.com/b8hlkh)

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RT @Newyorkist (http://twitter.com/Newyorkist) East River rises above last two steps of Get Down, and approaches 3rd, at end of Wall St #sandy (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sandy) twitpic.com/b8gpf2 (http://twitpic.com/b8gpf2)

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Nigel Barker reporting live from the banks of the Hudson
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The Hudson River has breached it's banks 8.53 am #sandy (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sandy) instagr.am/p/RXe1ZdPNEg/ (http://instagr.am/p/RXe1ZdPNEg/)

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Red Hook in South Brooklyn is not looking good:
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@StartingPtCNN (http://twitter.com/StartingPtCNN) Thank you for your amazing coverage Soledad! Here we are marooned in Red Hook, Brooklyn!! #Sandy (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Sandy) pic.twitter.com/VAHFiLXX (http://pic.twitter.com/VAHFiLXX)

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Neither is Jamaica Bay, Queens:
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The flooding in the Jamaica Bay, Queens neighborhood of Meadowmere. Courtesy of Kim Zatto, bait purveyor. pic.twitter.com/NgVf6Ues (http://pic.twitter.com/NgVf6Ues)

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Nor the toxic (http://observer.com/2012/10/inside-the-evacuation-zone-on-the-gowanus-canal/) Gowanus Canal in South Brooklyn:
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RT @kurtdwill (http://twitter.com/kurtdwill): Gowanus has overtopped wall and water is coming up 2nd Street in Brooklyn. #sandy (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sandy) pic.twitter.com/FLECDs1k (http://pic.twitter.com/FLECDs1k)

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But the worst flooding is so far on the Jersey Shore. Atlantic City is being hammered:
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Atlantic City --> RT @hoeboma (http://twitter.com/hoeboma): Damn the boardwalk gone uptown instagr.am/p/RXfhKxDL7F/ (http://instagr.am/p/RXfhKxDL7F/) #Sandy (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Sandy)

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Flooding at Hoboken Terminal in Hoboken, NJ:
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RT @twc_hurricane (http://twitter.com/twc_hurricane): NJ --> RT @marieoldham (http://twitter.com/marieoldham): Barely a drop of rain & #Hoboken (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Hoboken) Terminal area is flooding [meetingpeopleiseasy's photo] instagr.am/p/RXcmNRtveu/ (http://instagr.am/p/RXcmNRtveu/) #Sandy (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Sandy)

check two
10-29-2012, 10:11 AM
lol @ not being able to swim

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 10:11 AM
AND THE HURRICAN HASnT EVEN STARTED YET PLUS TONITE IS A FULL MOON AKA HIGH TIDE
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Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 10:54 AM
^^ timed it well.. did nature..


not to long left


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Henry Hamilton shared this info with us.

Simulated Hurricane SANDY Track at 2 p.m. October 4, 1997

It is about a "HURRICANE drill" in 1997 for the exact same Hurricane that is about to hit New York.
The ODD part of this is that the Hurricane they were practicing for was also named SANDY......?
Coincidence........ or not.....?

The Hurricane Simulation.
Westchester County Communications Officer Sandy Fried, an Amateur Radio operator and ODES staff member, had recently attended a training seminar at the National Hurricane Center in Miami. Part of the training was a simulation using data from the Hurricane of 1938 that caused major losses on Long Island and in Westchester. The texts of the simulated bulletins, forecasts, discussions and strike probabilities along with the hurricane's track were sent home with the seminar attendees. We named the simulated hurricane after Sandy, who incidentally was nine years old during the real Hurricane of 1938.

These texts were used as the drill stimulus. They were time-shifted to simulate land-fall around 6pm on Saturday, October 4th. Working backward from this time, we used these texts to generate and automatically update a World Wide Web status page (http://www.weca.org/SET (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weca.org%2FSET&h=vAQFsGm6G&s=1)) and send email to the Westchester ARES/RACES email reflector and fax to the County Emergency Operations center at the times that the National Weather Service would normally have sent them.


click on this link to see the info >>>>>
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7.7 on the west coast followed by this 2 days later on the east..

goodtimes

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Fishscale123
10-29-2012, 11:05 AM
Nobody even cares about mentioning the nuclear plants in New Jersey

http://www.globalresearch.ca/hurricane-sandy-may-score-a-direct-hit-on-spent-fuel-pools-at-nuclear-plant/5309982

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 11:11 AM
teh end is nearrrr


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Frakenstorm looks like its about to troll the statue of liberty

This is what many coastal areas will be looking likely after Sandy is done ...

Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and the roads are buckled due to the storm surge. Sand bags didn't help out!
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Bayside 33rd Street OC
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La Guardia Airport, NY now beginning to flood..
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Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 11:13 AM
http://news.discovery.com/earth/frankenstorm-sandy-seen-from-iss-121026.html#mkcpgn=fbdsc8


^^ awesome fucking video


https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/544939_405298299542478_1071185357_n.jpg

diggy
10-29-2012, 11:24 AM
smh @ sandbags...like water won't find a way thru.

check two
10-29-2012, 11:32 AM
It would be more effective if they propped up a bunch of fat women in front of the buildings, and there is an endless supply in the US.

food for thought
10-29-2012, 11:53 AM
Frakenstorm looks like its about to troll the statue of liberty

lmao

food for thought
10-29-2012, 12:04 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/523451_10151121878712756_129241901_n.jpg

lmfao @ that retard on the boat

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 12:19 PM
^THATS PHOTOSHOPPED DIPSHIT :no:
It would be more effective if they propped up a bunch of fat women in front of the buildings, and there is an endless supply in the US.

http://picload.org/image/dciwopd/4.jpg

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 12:28 PM
btw above pic is a shoop

sexy shitt

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/65390_4798912534548_1752025270_n.jpg

fibonacciiiiiiiii


obama trolling sandy (btw people call me sandy in real life.. usually girls.)

_wole9qMyik
Obama gives a warning to the American people about hurricane sandy and how he is going to impose martial law and put them all in FEMA camps.....I do not trust this storm....and you should NOT trust this man!.....October surprise!
^^UPLOADERS COMMENTS^^

Concerns on the rise as Hurricane Sandy expected to hit 26 nuclear power plants

http://rt.com/usa/news/sandy-nuclear-power-plant-500/


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Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 12:29 PM
fucking people on fb are pissing me off with there,, this is haarp spiel.. with no fucking proof! apart from youtube videos from people who know fuck all


yes i see the irony in that, but the videos i post are of people who know what they talking about/qualified.

not random men sitting in basements!

Sky Blue Bally Kid
10-29-2012, 01:26 PM
IF THE TSNUMANI THING HAPPENED I WOULD BE HIT SINCE I CANT SWIM


http://island-adv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Illegal-Immigrants-water.jpg

RADIOACTIVE MAN
10-29-2012, 01:33 PM
Lmao @ east coast faggits

ShaDynasty
10-29-2012, 01:53 PM
My sympathy goes out to the families of the people that gon die in a minute.

check two
10-29-2012, 01:59 PM
BkRQD5r1-hg

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 02:01 PM
THIS HURRICANE BETTER BE QUICK CAUSE I WANTED TO BE THE ONLY ONE WIT A WEEKS VACATiON
:no:

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 02:03 PM
fucking people on fb are pissing me off with there,, this is haarp spiel.. With no fucking proof! Apart from youtube videos from people who know fuck all


yes i see the irony in that, but the videos i post are of people who know what they talking about/qualified.

Not random men sitting in basements!

im pretty sure all the anon fags sit in there basements

haarp>>> anons rules of ingaygement

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 02:03 PM
WeatherNation (https://www.facebook.com/WeatherNation)

BREAKING NEWS: Sandy is still packing winds to 90 mph, but is now rapidly pushing toward the New Jersey coast at 30 mph. At this speed, she could make landfall within the next few hours. The list of damage is growing fast. In New York City, a construction crane has snapped back on the 75th floor of a building, hanging precariously over the downtown streets near 6th Avenue & 57th Street.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/12754_10151299017294874_1955061894_n.jpg

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 02:26 PM
o4P7Kr17RX8

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 02:33 PM
Fake Hurricane Sandy photos are flying around the web. Take cover
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/66228_395349027200809_1212292488_n.jpg



Long Beach Island in New Jersey and Sandy hasn't even hit land yet

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/67098_495209287178967_1263633384_n.jpg

Northern NJ Weather Authority (https://www.facebook.com/NewJerseyWeatherWorks)

HUGE WAVE CAPE MAY, NJ
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/46017_438223206215097_1620492363_n.jpg

Jersey Shore Hurricane News (https://www.facebook.com/JerseyShoreHurricaneNews)
HOBOKEN TERMINAL - RAILROAD TRACKS UNDER WATER .
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311202_488526241168947_559685295_n.jpg

‘Worst- case scenario’ has arrived says meteorologists. Sandy now storm of ‘historic proportions’

Ocean meets the bay near Battersea Ave in Ocean City, New Jersey as storm closes in on U.S. eastern coast.

October 29, 2012 – NEW YORK – The latest models have Sandy making landfall along the coast of South Jersey on Monday evening between 8 and 10 p.m. “This storm is HISTORIC,” said Katie Fehlinger. CBS 3 meteorologists say this is the “worst case scenario” as it will make landfall very close to high tide and say the storm pressure is currently stronger than the Long Island Express Hurricane of 1938. Pressure as of 11 a.m. was down to 943mb and the storm was located 205 miles southeast of Atlantic City. Maximum winds were at 90 mph and it is moving north – northwest. “It is accelerating and making the turn toward the coast,” said Kathy Orr. The National Hurricane Center issued a powerful warning stating, “Sandy expected to bring life-threatening story surge and coastal hurricane winds plus heavy Appalachian snows.” “This is the worst-case scenario,” said Louis Uccellini, NOAA. In New Jersey, the dunes have already been breached in Beach Haven and in Ocean City, New Jersey, officials say during this morning’s high tide, the Ocean met the bay. Officials say, “they’ve never seen anything like it.” –CBS

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314175_392016987535503_1899851000_n.jpg


sheiteds' tiles are going to float downstream, you've had long enough to fasten them into place.. hope you have,. dont want you to be coming back on line after 6days of no net, moaning about your 16k sri lankan tiles that went for a swim

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 02:49 PM
o4P7Kr17RX8


LOL

why haarp? why not one of the over 30+ VLF arrays?

does haarp cause storms on titan? how about on saturn? oh i know! haarp caused the big red spot to dissapear, thus making red junior??

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 02:59 PM
sheiteds' tiles are going to float downstream, you've had long enough to fasten them into place.. hope you have,. dont want you to be coming back on line after 6days of no net, moaning about your 16k sri lankan tiles that went for a swim

I ALREADY TOLD U FOOLS I LIVE IN A HIGHEST PART OF MY CITY WITH THE 1%

THIS IS HOW THE OUTSIDE OF MY CRIB LOOKS LIKE
http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/b7026eee21e811e2ac8422000a1fbf16_7.jpg

SOUL IF U QUIT THE INTERNET AND THROW AWAY THE ANON MASK U CAN PROBABLY GET A BABE
http://distilleryimage11.s3.amazonaws.com/5563b6c2094a11e2ad82123138191492_7.jpg


ALL I SEE IS THIS
http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/aa5391ca18cc11e29d8c22000a1fbd8b_7.jpg

HAARP WORKS WITH THE MILTARY CHEMTRAILS
NDCLe_4ee7A

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
10-29-2012, 03:14 PM
LOL @ wackcloud and soul controller having a conversation about illuminati hurricanes.

This IS wu-corp.

Now if only some eurofag would give me a track-by-track critical analysis of the new killa sin album complete with 1-5 Wu-Banga Scale...

what do you guys think about 9/11? Arab terrorists probably...right?...?

dun dun dun

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 03:17 PM
lolol millitary chemtrails? which military?? surely its not the us military, as you have chemtrails in all G20 countries.. thers an u.N resolution, making chemtrailing LEGAL,
through the research ive done.. believe i used to think how you do now.. but from really checking shit out, the whole purpose of chemtrails is to give the public the illusion of global warming,. the chemtrails trap the heat within the atmosphere, they create a film between the layers of the atmosphere...

indeed i dont discount chemtrails being used as part of some agenda 21 shit, but the the main reason/effect of chemtrails is giving the illusion of global warming;some credence,.

so onto haarp,. go watch some suspicious observers videos on haarp, listen to people who know what they're chatting about.. or hmmm

enjoy this??

kYvtjl_ZW_o

^^ not listened to it yet.. lol just been uploaded., i missed the live broadcast last night

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 03:22 PM
LOL @ wackcloud and soul controller having a conversation about illuminati hurricanes.

This IS wu-corp.

Now if only some eurofag would give me a track-by-track critical analysis of the new killa sin album complete with 1-5 Wu-Banga Scale...

what do you guys think about 9/11? Arab terrorists probably...right?...?

dun dun dun

lolol millitary chemtrails? which military?? surely its not the us military, as you have chemtrails in all G20 countries.. thers an u.N resolution, making chemtrailing LEGAL,
through the research ive done.. believe i used to think how you do now.. but from really checking shit out, the whole purpose of chemtrails is to give the public the illusion of global warming,. the chemtrails trap the heat within the atmosphere, they create a film between the layers of the atmosphere...

indeed i dont discount chemtrails being used as part of some agenda 21 shit, but the the main reason/effect of chemtrails is giving the illusion of global warming;some credence,.

so onto haarp,. go watch some suspicious observers videos on haarp, listen to people who know what they're chatting about.. or hmmm

enjoy this??

kYvtjl_ZW_o

^^ not listened to it yet.. lol just been uploaded., i missed the live broadcast last night

I WAS SUPPOSE TO HAVE THIS WEEK OFF OF WORK, GO TO THE GYM EVERY DAY GET CHISELED, AND I WANTED WHOEVER THAT WAS DOIN MY JOB TO GET BACKED UP
CAUSE THESE QUEERS THINK ALL I DO IS GET ON THE INTERNET,

NOW THIS FUCKIN STORM IS PROBABLY GONNA HAVE EVERYONE HAVE A WEEK OFF SO I CANT PROVE MY POINT THAT IM A 3 MAN JOB LEGEND

THATS THE SHIT I DONT LIKE
wshhSJN0RcjV3DRj2Lg6

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 03:23 PM
LOL @ wackcloud and soul controller having a conversation about illuminati hurricanes.
I do not agree with that assumption, its a natural hurricane,

This IS wu-corp. Welcome to Fag-Corp

Now if only some eurofag would give me a track-by-track critical analysis of the new killa sin album complete with 1-5 Wu-Banga Scale... Do wu still make music?

what do you guys think about 9/11? Motherfucking NINJAS Arab terrorists probably...right?...?

dun dun dun Your welcome Batfink

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318833_424420814279016_123615863_n.jpg

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
10-29-2012, 03:29 PM
i think it's neat how you guys think outside the box.

It's cool that you think thoughts about stuff, and then share them with others electronically

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 03:39 PM
I DONT THINK ITS COOL THAT U THINK MALE ANUS SHOULD BE FILLED INSIDE THE COCkS

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
10-29-2012, 04:06 PM
if youre that dyslexic, maybe you should start with something simple like

"U R GAY"

You're not retarded, you just see things differently, bro






ZU0YvzTiIp8

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 04:21 PM
Atlantic City once had a boardwalk....

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/281413_258834080906011_1134828503_n.jpg


This is on Amboy Road in Staten Island.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/149803_10151140285609091_713235642_n.jpg

IronSheik
10-29-2012, 04:37 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/487249_10151295640697146_2125410292_n.jpg

food for thought
10-29-2012, 04:39 PM
ahahaaaaaaahahah!!!!

Meta4
10-29-2012, 04:43 PM
Ahahaha P! is too damn crazy. The swim goggles made my abs burn.

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 04:45 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/525689_424611340926630_696028324_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431645_424611440926620_1768975099_n.jpg

CEITEDMOFO
10-29-2012, 04:45 PM
http://distilleryimage10.s3.amazonaws.com/c93ad2d2220011e286531231381b3c35_7.jpg

eLBAKw5qid4

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 04:47 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/30340_10100385760973984_1571415124_n.jpg

food for thought
10-29-2012, 04:49 PM
aaaaaaahahahahahaha!!!!

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 05:01 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384207_424640080923756_139272393_n.jpg

imagine this

food for thought
10-29-2012, 05:02 PM
is that a shark bro?

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 05:05 PM
shark infested roads bro

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 05:43 PM
Lower East Side of Manhattan, New York
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/486266_358065614288502_1712025726_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/222584_456381797736512_1907759611_n.jpg

ShaDynasty
10-29-2012, 05:48 PM
Roffel

Rame
10-29-2012, 05:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6aUZpUCEAAZg8N.jpg

Mumm Ra
10-29-2012, 06:19 PM
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/178930_2500076599353_22067889_n.jpg

Rame
10-29-2012, 06:40 PM
^ Welcome to August 2011.

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 06:49 PM
Rt. 37
To Seaside Heights NJ
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/522786_477079175647966_1084552632_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/523627_10151205897633190_1966712714_n.jpg

bye bye nj/ny

wonder what will happen to the folks who purchased these items?... that dude who promised the rapture last year.. maybe this is his doing?? he did change it to october?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530842_361725560583004_1163690228_n.jpg

Mr. R&B
10-29-2012, 07:13 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530842_361725560583004_1163690228_n.jpg


Well, at least some people have their priorities straight. :beer: :)9:(

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
10-29-2012, 07:41 PM
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/178930_2500076599353_22067889_n.jpg

http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/irondan1/moaduck.jpg

im sorry everyone, i have a problem

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 07:56 PM
I Cannot Go to Bed - There is Epic Shit Happening on the Internet (https://www.facebook.com/ICannotGotoBed?ref=stream)

10 minutes ago (https://www.facebook.com/ICannotGotoBed/posts/519460704732372) ·

Confirmed by CNN: Trading floor of New York Stock Exchange under 3 FEET OF WATER!

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-29-2012, 08:01 PM
after it hit jamaica i read that sandy was then downgraded to a tropical storm but warned that it could pick up again and it did. something may have caused it to pick up again.

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 08:01 PM
Bloomberg Says Prisoners Will be Abandoned While City Evacuates

An area called Rikers Island in New York is in one of these dangerous areas, however for most of the people who live there evacuation is not an option.
That is because Rikers Island is a jail and people who happen to find themselves in jail are no longer looked at as human beings, especially by a member of the ruling class such as Bloomberg.
According to the New York City Department of Corrections’ own website, more than three-quarters of Rikers Island’s 400 acres are built on landfill–which is generally thought to be more vulnerable to natural disasters.
Its ten jails have a capacity of close to 17,000 inmates, and normally house at least 12,000, including juveniles and large numbers of prisoners with mental illness–not to mention pre-trial detainees who have yet to be convicted of any crime.
Most of the people held at this facility are small time, nonviolent offenders, this is a jail, not a prison. Even then, the majority of people in prison are also nonviolent offenders.
In a press conference this weekend about the hurricane, Bloomberg was asked about the condition of the prisoners in case of an emergency and replied by saying “don’t worry about them getting out”.

This cold and heartless response is the talk of a super villain, but sadly this sadistic attitude went largely unnoticed by the mainstream media.
This is not the first time that Bloomberg has come under fire for refusing to evacuate the jail or show any kind of concern for the people housed there during a disaster.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/3830_504682222883024_1378188870_n.png

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 08:02 PM
after it hit jamaica i read that sandy was then downgraded to a tropical storm but warned that it could pick up again and it did. something may have caused it to pick up again.


the extremely cold front that is pushing across eastwards from northwest america

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-29-2012, 08:03 PM
population control to get out of debt?

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 08:04 PM
(Z) RT @passantino: Wow: Floodwaters inundate Ground Zero construction site in NYC (via AP)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562047_437512986316681_886990911_n.jpg

Soul Controller
10-29-2012, 08:10 PM
Downtown Atlantic City!!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21643_439440379426052_1864211963_n.jpg

hearing a power station in ny ny just blew up

Parking Garage In Financial District, NY | Andrew Burton, Getty Images

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/523017_475098475867538_65022530_n.jpg

RT Coney Island is underwater
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270551_437497789651534_786166450_n.jpg
"Looks like Sandy is part of the 99% revolution."

EAGLE EYE
10-29-2012, 08:45 PM
I Cannot Go to Bed - There is Epic Shit Happening on the Internet (https://www.facebook.com/ICannotGotoBed?ref=stream)

10 minutes ago (https://www.facebook.com/ICannotGotoBed/posts/519460704732372) ·

Confirmed by CNN: Trading floor of New York Stock Exchange under 3 FEET OF WATER!


The data center which backs up everything is outside the flood zones

IronSheik
10-29-2012, 08:56 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/949_10151090001781006_1258563111_n.png

EAGLE EYE
10-29-2012, 09:00 PM
population control to get out of debt?

population control to get out of debt?

population control to get out of debt?

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population control to get out of debt?

population control to get out of debt?

population control to get out of debt?

population control to get out of debt?

population control to get out of debt?


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-E3tEQgovSBE/T_HGZHPXUdI/AAAAAAAADDk/x4GRhKiitSg/s1600/Obama-Goofy.jpg

IronSheik
10-29-2012, 09:06 PM
great timing for album promo

UMZgLf220ro
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/487249_10151295640697146_2125410292_n.jpg

diggy
10-29-2012, 09:14 PM
H.N.I.C.3 ‏@PRODIGYMOBBDEEP (https://twitter.com/PRODIGYMOBBDEEP)



Twitter:


"radio city music hall better mop up. cause we in that @nas (https://twitter.com/Nas) concert on new years."


"Somewhere somebody baby moms is on her way to anotha nig crib wit a plastic supermarket bag on her head & uggz on her feet..Lol"


"and the chinese spot still delivering...yes!"


"wow...niggas outside shootin. smh."

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-29-2012, 09:15 PM
it's good to know that there's still a chicken shop open so people can go out and get their fried chicken during a hurricane. that's hardcore.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-29-2012, 09:20 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-E3tEQgovSBE/T_HGZHPXUdI/AAAAAAAADDk/x4GRhKiitSg/s1600/Obama-Goofy.jpg






Bloomberg has left the prisoners to die.



Bloomberg Says Prisoners Will be Abandoned While City Evacuates

An area called Rikers Island in New York is in one of these dangerous areas, however for most of the people who live there evacuation is not an option.
That is because Rikers Island is a jail and people who happen to find themselves in jail are no longer looked at as human beings, especially by a member of the ruling class such as Bloomberg.
According to the New York City Department of Corrections’ own website, more than three-quarters of Rikers Island’s 400 acres are built on landfill–which is generally thought to be more vulnerable to natural disasters.
Its ten jails have a capacity of close to 17,000 inmates, and normally house at least 12,000, including juveniles and large numbers of prisoners with mental illness–not to mention pre-trial detainees who have yet to be convicted of any crime.
Most of the people held at this facility are small time, nonviolent offenders, this is a jail, not a prison. Even then, the majority of people in prison are also nonviolent offenders.
In a press conference this weekend about the hurricane, Bloomberg was asked about the condition of the prisoners in case of an emergency and replied by saying “don’t worry about them getting out”.

This cold and heartless response is the talk of a super villain, but sadly this sadistic attitude went largely unnoticed by the mainstream media.
This is not the first time that Bloomberg has come under fire for refusing to evacuate the jail or show any kind of concern for the people housed there during a disaster.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/3830_504682222883024_1378188870_n.png

IronSheik
10-29-2012, 09:23 PM
UiyhF_GIQlI

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-29-2012, 09:41 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/525689_424611340926630_696028324_n.jpg


what if any of those nuclear reactors happens to explode?

EAGLE EYE
10-29-2012, 09:54 PM
here's my rendition

http://i.imgur.com/ltzhI.png

JASPER
10-29-2012, 10:14 PM
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http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab52/robochrist/Corbis-42-18537778.jpg

EAGLE EYE
10-29-2012, 10:35 PM
Bloomberg has left the prisoners to die.


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcok3xbqsm1rf9whpo1_500.gif

JASPER
10-29-2012, 11:09 PM
Bloomberg has left the prisoners to die.

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab52/robochrist/1347596318507.jpg

Uncle Steezo
10-29-2012, 11:37 PM
my moms outdoor potted plants tipped over.

EAGLE EYE
10-30-2012, 01:52 AM
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/508f2d386bb3f77b55000000-817-621/path-station-floods.jpg

check two
10-30-2012, 06:07 AM
The cable stopped working, but my power didn't go out. In the past, my electric has gone out before when a BBW just walked by, so this is odd.

check two
10-30-2012, 06:51 AM
Isn't Rikers known for having some of the worst prisoners in the US?

diggy
10-30-2012, 08:12 AM
9bqrzFKTIE4

ShaDynasty
10-30-2012, 08:58 AM
http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ZOPVE.jpg

Soul Controller
10-30-2012, 09:54 AM
my moms outdoor potted plants tipped over.

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sorry imnotdoingitrite


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Soul Controller
10-30-2012, 09:58 AM
for sheited..


nothing to do with haarp, its nex rad, chem trails.. a big difference! like i said :p

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food for thought
10-30-2012, 10:44 AM
As Hurricane Sandy churned inland as a downgraded storm on Tuesday, residents in battered mid-Atlantic states faced floods, power failures and the daunting task of cleaning up from once-in-a-generation storm surges and their devastating effects.
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Roughly six million people, including many in a large swath of Manhattan, were without electricity. Streets were littered with debris and buildings damaged. Seven subway tunnels under the East River were flooded. While several bridges over the East River were set to reopen, other mass transit service, including commuter rails, was still suspended.

At least 26 deaths in seven states were tied to the storm, which toppled trees and sparked fires in several areas, government officials and emergency authorities said. Falling limbs became deadly bludgeons in three of the New York deaths and two in Morris County, N.J., where The Associated Press reported a man and a woman were killed when a tree fell on their car Monday evening.

There were at least 10 killed in New York City alone, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Tuesday, adding that some were killed when stepping in a puddle where a power line had fallen or when a tree fell onto a house.

“We had a storm of unprecedented proportions,” he said in a news conference.

Mr. Bloomberg said that schools would remain closed for a third day on Wednesday and that the authorities would try to restore subway service in about four days, but he did not provide an exact timetable.

By sending brackish water into so many subway tunnels, the storm became the most destructive in the 108-year history of New York’s subway system, said Joseph J. Lhota, the chairman of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, in an early morning statement. “We are assessing the extent of the damage and beginning the process of recovery,” he said.

As the storm made its way across the Atlantic this week, the authorities ordered mandatory evacuations in many low-lying areas of states along the coast to clear residents from the anticipated surge and powerful winds. At one point, hurricane-force winds extended up to 175 miles from the center of the storm; tropical-storm-force winds spread out 485 miles from the center.

When it made landfall at 8 p.m. on Monday, its violent winds and lashing rains began to transform city landscapes into tableaus of destruction in the region. By Tuesday morning in New York City, one of the most dramatic scenes was 80 stories high, where a wind-tossed construction crane atop one of the city’s tallest buildings still dangled over West 57th Street, across the street from Carnegie Hall, after coming loose during the storm.

Forecasters tracked the storm’s path in a shift well to the west, with the prediction models suggesting it wouldl run up through central Pennsylvania and western New York State and to enter southern Ontario by Wednesday, said Eric Blake, a hurricane specialist with the National Hurricane Center in Miami.

Rain levels are expected to diminish as the storm continues to move inland and loses contact with the ocean — its source of moisture — though wind damage is still likely across a broad stretch of the country, Mr. Blake said. “You’ve got rain or snow extending from Georgia through Maine and Michigan,” he said. “When you have something over Pennsylvania, and Lake Michigan is seeing gale-force winds, you’ve got a very large storm.”

Forecasters said tropical-storm-force winds could stretch all the way north to Canada and all the way west to the Great Lakes. Heavy snow was expected in some states.

More than 13,000 airline flights were canceled at airports across the East Coast, including the three major airports in the New York City area. Even the Erie Canal was shut down. Subways were shut down from Boston to Washington, as were Amtrak and the commuter rail lines.

In Breezy Point on the Rockaways in Queens, nearly 200 firefighters were still battling a blaze on Tuesday morning that destroyed about 80 tightly packed homes in the beach community. A Fire Department spokesman said the area was “probably the most flooded part of the city, so there are all sorts of complications.”

The surging water also caused extensive complications at NYU Langone Medical Center when a backup power system failed on Monday night, forcing the evacuation of patients to other facilities. Backup power also failed at Coney Island Hospital in southern Brooklyn, though critical patients had been evacuated in advance of the storm.

Fatalities in Several States

In New York, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s office said late Monday night that at least five deaths in the state were caused by the storm. About 7 p.m., a tree fell on a house in Queens, killing a 30-year-old man, the city police said. About the same time, two boys, ages 11 and 13, were killed in North Salem, in northern Westchester County, when a tree fell on the house they were in, according to the State Police. The storm was tied to another three deaths in Maryland, two in Connecticut and one in West Virginia, state authorities said.

Officials for Pennsylvania said two deaths — a boy in Susquehanna County and a 62-year-old man in Berks County, were being investigated but that the county coroner had not yet confirmed them as related to the storm. In North Carolina, a man was killed when his vehicle hit a tree that was crashing down in Surry Couty, said an official with the state emergency offices.

The wind-driven rain lashed sea walls and protective barriers in places like Atlantic City, where the Boardwalk was damaged as water forced its way inland. Foam was spitting, and the sand gave in to the waves along the beach at Sandy Hook, N.J., at the entrance to New York Harbor.

Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey called the damage to his state “incalculable” and said the Jersey Shore had been “devastated.” As he spoke on a series of morning talk shows on Tuesday, rescue teams were rushing to the aid of those stranded in Atlantic City and in areas of Bergen County where, he said, tidal waters had overwhelmed a protective natural berm.

Water was thigh-high on the streets in Sea Bright, N.J., a three-mile sand-sliver of a town where the ocean joined the Shrewsbury River.

“It’s the worst I’ve seen,” said David Arnold, watching the storm from his home in Long Branch, N.J. “The ocean is in the road, there are trees down everywhere. I’ve never seen it this bad.”

As the storm struck New York City, waves topped the sea wall in the financial district in Manhattan, sending cars floating down streets. West Street, along the western edge of Lower Manhattan, looked like a river. The Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel flooded “from end to end,” the transportation authority said, hours after Mr. Cuomo had ordered it closed to traffic. Officials said water also seeped into seven subway tunnels under the East River.

Extensive Power Failures

By early Monday evening, the storm had knocked out power to hundreds of thousands of homes, stores and office buildings. Consolidated Edison said that as of 1:30 a.m. Tuesday, 634,000 customers in New York City and Westchester were without power. Con Edison, fearing damage to its electrical equipment, shut down power pre-emptively in sections of Lower Manhattan on Monday evening, and then, at 8:30 p.m., an unplanned failure, probably caused by flooding in substations, knocked out power to most of Manhattan below Midtown, affecting about 250,000 customers. Later, an explosion at a Con Ed substation on East 14th Street knocked out power to another 250,000 customers.

Much of Manhattan could be without electricity for several days after the explosion, a spokesman for Con Ed said Tuesday morning. More than 240,000 customers – and many more people – were without power more than 12 hours after the explosion; a customer can represent a single family or an entire building, utility officials said.

The blast knocked out electricity for all of Manhattan below 39th Street on the East Side and 31st Street on the West side – with the exception of a few pockets, including Battery Park City.

In New Jersey, more than two million customers were without power as of 1:30 a.m. on Tuesday, and in Connecticut the total reached nearly 500,000 customers.

President Obama declared a federal disaster area on Tuesday in New York City, Long Island and eight counties in New Jersey.

Forecasters attributed the power of the storm to a convergence of weather systems. As the hurricane swirled north in the Atlantic and then pivoted toward land, a wintry storm was heading toward it from the west, and cold air was blowing south from the Arctic. The hurricane left more than 60 people dead in the Caribbean before it began crawling toward the Northeast.

“The days ahead are going to be very difficult,” Gov. Martin O’Malley of Maryland said.

Alex Sosnowski, a senior meteorologist with AccuWeather, said potentially damaging winds would continue on Tuesday from Illinois to the Carolinas — and as far north as Maine — as the storm barreled toward the eastern Great Lakes.


Reporting on the storm was contributed by Peter Applebome, Charles V. Bagli, Joseph Berger, Nina Bernstein, Cara Buckley, Russ Buettner, David W. Chen, Annie Correal, Sam Dolnick, Christopher Drew, David W. Dunlap, Ann Farmer, Lisa W. Foderaro, Joseph Goldstein, David M. Halbfinger, Christine Hauser, Elizabeth A. Harris, Winnie Hu, Jon Hurdle, Thomas Kaplan, Corey Kilgannon, John Leland, Randy Leonard, Patrick McGeehan, Jad Mouawad, Colin Moynihan, Sarah Maslin Nir, Sharon Otterman, William K. Rashbaum, Ray Rivera, Liz Robbins, Wendy Ruderman, Nate Schweber, Michael Schwirtz, Mosi Secret, Kirk Semple, Joe Sharkey, Brian Stelter, Kate Taylor, Julie Turkewitz, Matthew L. Wald, Michael Wilson, Michael Winerip, Vivian Yee and Kate Zernike.

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food for thought
10-30-2012, 11:56 AM
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The lights at Goldman Sachs stay on through hurricane: Electricity as the new symbol of Wall Street greed
By S. Mitra Kalita — 5 hours ago
During the Great Recession, Goldman Sachs’ corporate jets were linked to a culture of excess. Hurricane Sandy has lowered the bar for public outrage: Now it’s directed at the investment bank’s generators.

As Wall Street lost power and plunged into darkness, the lights stayed on at Goldman’s signature tower at 200 West Street. Charlie Walk took this photo and posted it on Instagram (used with permission):

food for thought
10-30-2012, 02:07 PM
population control to get out of debt?

hahahahah yea by killing a whopping number of less than 50 people and wasting money on recovery for a storm that they orchestrated

the logic is impeccable.

Dr. Simon Hurt
10-30-2012, 02:13 PM
if weather weapons exist, why wouldn't they be used against north korea, china or iran first?

check two
10-30-2012, 02:13 PM
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Uncle Steezo
10-30-2012, 03:15 PM
approaching 100billion in losses and damages.
why can't the cause be a wildly swinging pendulum? our weather is getting more and more extreme in both directions. scientists have been telling us for years that we are reaching tipping point. i wouldnt be surprised if we have an extremely cold year following this extremely hot one.

food for thought
10-30-2012, 03:28 PM
^+1

Environmental activist Bill McKibben says Sandy should be a “wake-up call” to elected officials about the effects of climate change.

“This is an absolutely unprecedented storm,” he said Monday evening. And it comes during the warmest year in recorded history in the United States — dating back to the late 19th century — and one in which many areas were affected by a serious drought.

“This has been, this entire year, should be a serious wake-up call and the public’s beginning to get it,” said McKibben, founder of the 350.org climate advocacy organization.
But he’s not expecting much from federal officials regardless of who wins the White House and Congress.
“In Washington, the fossil fuel industry has bought one party and scared the other so we’re going to have to build a movement to challenge them some,” he said.




http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/83045.html

IronSheik
10-30-2012, 03:58 PM
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Rame
10-30-2012, 04:11 PM
Time to call in the Dutch!

food for thought
10-30-2012, 05:24 PM
update



Disarray, millions without power in Sandy's wake

NEW YORK —The most devastating storm in decades to hit the country's most densely populated region upended man and nature as it rolled back the clock on 21st-century lives, cutting off modern communication and leaving millions without power Tuesday as thousands who fled their water-menaced homes wondered when — if — life would return to normal.
A weakening Sandy, the hurricane turned fearsome superstorm, killed at least 38 people, many hit by falling trees, and still wasn't finished. It inched inland across Pennsylvania, ready to bank toward western New York to dump more of its water and likely cause more havoc Tuesday night. Behind it: a dazed, inundated New York City, a waterlogged Atlantic Coast and

People and pets picked up from flooded homes are transported in a large truck to dry ground, in Little Ferry, N.J. Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2012 in the wake of superstorm Sandy. (Craig Ruttle, Associated Press)
a moonscape of disarray and debris — from unmoored shore-town boardwalks to submerged mass-transit systems to delicate presidential politics.
"Nature," said New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, assessing the damage to his city, "is an awful lot more powerful than we are."
More than 8.2 million households were without power in 17 states as far west as Michigan. Nearly 2 million of those were in New York, where large swaths of lower Manhattan lost electricity and entire streets ended up under water — as did seven subway tunnels between Manhattan and Brooklyn at one point, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority said. The New York Stock Exchange was closed for a second day from weather, the first time that has happened since a blizzard in 1888. The city's subway system, the lifeblood of more than 5 million residents, was damaged like never before and closed indefinitely, and Consolidated Edison said electricity in and around New York could take a week to restore.
"Everybody knew it was coming. Unfortunately, it was everything they said it was," said Sal Novello, a construction executive who rode out the storm with his wife, Lori, in the Long Island town of Lindenhurst, and ended up with 7 feet of water

Homes are flooded after Hurricane Sandy made landfall on the southern New Jersey coastline in this U.S. Coast Guard handout photo in Tuckerton, New Jersey, October 30, 2012. In the storm's wake, Obama issued federal emergency decrees for New York and New Jersey, declaring that "major disasters" existed in both states. One disaster-forecasting company predicted economic losses could ultimately reach $20 billion (12.4 billion pounds), only half insured. (Via Reuters)
in the basement.
The scope of the storm's damage wasn't known yet. Though early predictions of river flooding in Sandy's inland path were petering out, colder temperatures made snow the main product of Sandy's slow march from the sea. Parts of the West Virginia mountains were blanketed with 2 feet of snow by Tuesday afternoon, and drifts 4 feet deep were reported at Great Smoky Mountains National Park on the Tennessee-North Carolina border.
With Election Day a week away, the storm also threatened to affect the presidential campaign. Federal disaster response, always a dicey political issue, has become even thornier since government mismanagement of Hurricane Katrina in 2005. And poll access and voter turnout, both of which

A sporting goods and camping store displays it's message to residents in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy on October 30, 2012 in Huntington Station, New York. The storm has claimed at least a few dozen lives in the United States, and has caused massive flooding across much of the Atlantic seaboard. U.S. President Barack Obama has declared the situation a "major disaster" for large areas of the U.S. east coast, including New York City. (Bruce Bennett, Getty Images North America)
hinge upon how people are impacted by the storm, could help shift the outcome in an extremely close race.
As organized civilization came roaring back Tuesday in the form of emergency response, recharged cellphones and the reassurance of daylight, harrowing stories and pastiches emerged from Maryland north to Rhode Island in the hours after Sandy's howling winds and tidal surges shoved water over seaside barriers, into low-lying streets and up from coastal storm drains.
Images from around the storm-affected areas depicted scenes reminiscent of big-budget disaster movies. In Atlantic City, N.J., a gaping hole remained where once a stretch of boardwalk sat by the sea. In Queens, N.Y., rubble from a fire that destroyed as many as 100

A pathway to the beach from the boardwalk is buried in sand up to the railings, at a beach in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy in Atlantic City, New Jersey, October 30, 2012. Millions of people were left reeling in the aftermath of the massive storm Sandy on Tuesday as New York City and a wide swath of the eastern United States struggled with epic flooding and extensive power outages. The death toll climbed to at least 30. (Tom Mihalek, Reuters)
houses in an evacuated beachfront neighborhood jutted into the air at ugly angles against a gray sky. In heavily flooded Hoboken, N.J., across the Hudson River from Manhattan, dozens of yellow cabs sat parked in rows, submerged in murky water to their windshields. At the ground zero construction site in lower Manhattan, sea water rushed into a gaping hole under harsh floodlights.
One of the most dramatic tales came from lower Manhattan, where a failed backup generator forced New York University's Tisch Hospital to relocate more than 200 patients, including 20 babies from neonatal intensive care. Dozens of ambulances lined up in the rainy night and the tiny patients were gingerly moved out, some attached to battery-powered respirators

A vehicle is stuck against a guardrail on Harper Road in Beckley, W.Va., on Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2012. Sandy, the storm that made landfall Monday, caused multiple fatalities, halted mass transit and cut power to more than 6 million homes and businesses. (Chris Tilley, Associated Press)
as gusts of wind blew their blankets.
In Moonachie, N.J., 10 miles north of Manhattan, water rose to 5 feet within 45 minutes and trapped residents who thought the worst of the storm had passed. Mobile-home park resident Juan Allen said water overflowed a 2-foot wall along a nearby creek, filling the area with 2 to 3 feet of water within 15 minutes. "I saw trees not just knocked down but ripped right out of the ground," he said. "I watched a tree crush a guy's house like a wet sponge."
In a measure of its massive size, waves on southern Lake Michigan rose to a record-tying 20.3 feet. High winds spinning off Sandy's edges clobbered the Cleveland area early Tuesday, uprooting trees, closing schools and flooding major roads along Lake Erie.
Most along the East Coast, though, grappled with an experience like Bertha Weismann of Bridgeport, Conn.— frightening, inconvenient and financially problematic but, overall, endurable. Her garage was flooded and she lost power, but she was grateful. "I feel like we are blessed," she said. "It could have been worse."
The presidential candidates' campaign maneuverings Tuesday revealed the delicacy of the need to look presidential in a crisis without appearing to capitalize on a disaster. President Barack Obama canceled a third straight day of campaigning, scratching events scheduled for Wednesday in swing-state Ohio, in Sandy's path. Republican Mitt Romney resumed his campaign with plans for an Ohio rally billed as a "storm relief event."
And the weather posed challenges a week out for how to get everyone out to vote. On the hard-hit New Jersey coastline, a county elections chief said some polling places on barrier islands will be unusable and have to be moved.
"This is the biggest challenge we've ever had," said George R. Gilmore, chairman of the Ocean County Board of Elections.
By Tuesday afternoon, there were still only hints of the economic impact of the storm. Airports remained closed across the East Coast and far beyond as tens of thousands of travelers found they couldn't get where they were going.
IHS Global Insight, a forecasting firm, predicted the storm will end up causing about $20 billion in damages and $10 billion to $30 billion in lost business — big numbers probably offset by reconstruction and repairs that will contribute to longer-term growth. Americans can also expect higher gas prices in the short term.
"The biggest problem is not the first few days but the coming months," said Alan Rubin, an expert in nature disaster recovery.
Sandy began in the Atlantic and knocked around the Caribbean — killing nearly 70 people — and strengthened into a hurricane as it chugged across the southeastern coast of the United States. By Tuesday night it had ebbed in strength but was joining up with another, more wintry storm — an expected confluence of weather systems that earned it nicknames like "superstorm" and, on Halloween eve, "Frankenstorm."
It became, pretty much everyone agreed Tuesday, the weather event of a lifetime — and one shared vigorously on social media by people in Sandy's path who took eye-popping photographs as the storm blew through, then shared them with the world by the blue light of their smartphones.
On Twitter and Facebook, people tried to connect, reassure relatives and make sense of what was happening — and, in many cases, work to authenticate reports of destruction and storm surges. They posted and passed around images and real-time updates at a dizzying rate, wishing each other well and gaping, virtually, at scenes of calamity moments after they unfolded. Among the top terms on Facebook through the night and well into Tuesday, according to the social network: "we are OK," "made it" and "fine."
Around midday Tuesday, Sandy was about 120 miles east of Pittsburgh, pushing westward with winds of 45 mph, and was expected to turn toward New York State on Tuesday night. Although weakening as it goes, the storm will continue to bring heavy rain and flooding, said Daniel Brown of the National Hurricane Center in Miami.
Atlantic City's fabled Boardwalk, the first in the nation, lost several blocks when Sandy came through, though the majority of it remained intact even as other Jersey Shore boardwalks were dismantled. What damage could be seen on the coastline Tuesday was, in some locations, staggering — "unthinkable," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said of what unfolded along the Jersey Shore, where houses were swept from their foundations and amusement park rides were washed into the ocean. "Beyond anything I thought I would ever see."
Resident Carol Mason returned to her bayfront home to carpets that squished as she stepped on them. She made her final mortgage payment just last week. Facing a mandatory evacuation order, she had tried to ride out the storm at first but then saw the waters rising outside her bathroom window and quickly reconsidered.
"I looked at the bay and saw the fury in it," she said. "I knew it was time to go."
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Contributing to this report were Katie Zezima in Atlantic City, N.J.; Alicia Caldwell and Martin Crutsinger in Washington; Colleen Long, Jennifer Peltz, Tom Hays, Larry Neumeister, Ralph Russo and Scott Mayerowitz in New York; Meghan Barr in Mastic Beach, N.Y.; Christopher S. Rugaber in Arlington, Va.; Marc Levy in Harrisburg, Pa.: John Christoffersen in Bridgeport, Conn.; Vicki Smith in Elkins, W.Va.; David Porter in Newark, N.J.; Joe Mandak in Pittsburgh; and Dave Collins in Hartford, Conn.
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Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-30-2012, 05:40 PM
hahahahah yea by killing a whopping number of less than 50 people and wasting money on recovery for a storm that they orchestrated

the logic is impeccable.


well they can't predict how many people it would kill. i could be wrong. they could have tried to get out of debt by getting people into debt. it's hit NY and i believe it is quite a rich state. people who don't have insurance will have to buy everything that needs replacing or fixing.

IronSheik
10-30-2012, 06:49 PM
http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_51/sandy-cabs-large.jpg (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-climate-change-sea-level-rise)Partially submerged yellow taxi cabs along a flooded street in Queens

In 2007, I published a book called Storm World: Hurricanes, Politics, and the Battle Over Global Warming (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00155GE8G/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00155GE8G&linkCode=as2&tag=chriscmooneyc-20). It was inspired by what my family had been through in Hurricane Katrina (I'm from New Orleans), but at the end, I looked forward to what other families and other cities might have to experience—if we don't start to think in a much broader way about our society's stunning vulnerability to hurricane disasters.
As I wrote: Even as we act immediately to curtail short term vulnerability, every exposed coastal city needs a risk assessment that takes global warming scenarios into account…Scientists at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York have been studying that city's vulnerability to hurricane impacts in a changing world, and calculated (http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20061024/) that with 1.5 feet of sea level rise, a worst-case-scenario Category 3 hurricane could submerge "the Rockaways, Coney Island, much of southern Brooklyn and Queens, portions of Long Island City, Astoria, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, Queens, lower Manhattan, and eastern Staten Island from Great Kills Harbor north to the Verrazano Bridge." (Pause and think about that for a second.)
No need to pause and think any longer—last night, just over five years later, much of it came to pass. And indeed, climate change, a topic embarrassingly ignored in the three recent presidential debates, made it worse.

Last night, southern Manhattan reportedly received (http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17592795&sid=81) a 13.88 foot storm surge, a record high and more than enough to flood much of the city. We’ve all seen the pictures. What’s more, according to Ben Orlove (http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/opinion/orlove-sandy-new-york/index.html), director of the Master's Program in Climate and Society at Columbia University, about a foot of that surge would not have been there if not for the sea-level rise already caused by climate change over the course of the 20th century.


So, yes, we knew. We knew well ahead of time that this could happen, and we knew global warming was already making it worse. We knew, but we did virtually nothing. (Well, New York did empanel a sea level rise task force, which put out a report—and you can see how that turned out (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20110103/downtown/rising-sea-levels-has-city-state-at-odds).)
But it’s not just about what we knew—it’s also what we know going forward. We know that if you think this is bad, well, global warming will make it still worse in the future.


Take a recent Nature study (http://www.eenews.net/assets/2012/02/15/document_cw_01.pdf) by climate scientists at MIT and Princeton, looking at future storm surge scenarios under climate change. The researchers used multiple computer model runs to simulate a variety of storm surges hurled at New York City—explicitly looking at future climate and sea level rise scenarios. By 2100, New York is projected to experience between .5 and 1.5 meters of sea-level rise. Taking the midpoint of this estimate, or a 1 meter sea-level rise, the paper found that what is currently a 100 year storm surge event for New York could become a 20 year event by 2100.


In other words, scientists say, the risk of the "rise of the oceans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbkYBGVVpSc)" is steadily going to increase. And when the next disaster happens, we'll again realize that they told us so. Just like they did before Katrina, and before Sandy…and before the next big one, whenever it is.


The point is that we have a terrible track record of dealing with long range risks in this country. This is exacerbated by a presentist, science-phobic (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/most-anti-science-lawmakers-running-office) mindset on full display in the saga of 2012 presidential debates—which now, in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, now look utterly inane. The debates completely ignored climate change—and then much of Manhattan was flooded. So do we really think that Jim Lehrer, Candy Crowley, and Bob Schieffer are the sort of journalists that ought to be steering conversations between our presidential candidates? And if not, why not?
My answer is simple: Because these people aren't science minded. They treated climate change as a "boutique issue (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2012/10/why-no-one-said-c-word-debates)," something only of interest to some small band of "climate change people (http://grist.org/news/candy-crowleys-weird-dismissal-of-climate-change/)"—and in so doing, they proved they simply aren't in tune to what is really happening to this country and the planet.


Thus far in America, we've gotten the national conversation that we deserve—and the consequence is that we feel blindsided by disasters that somehow never came up until it was too late. In the wake of Sandy, then, how about a resolution? This time around, let's all vow to think about the future, and about climate change, before the next tragedy strikes.

Starting now.

Uncle Steezo
10-30-2012, 06:54 PM
you better pack your shit or get a razor when the day comes you can slit yo wrist

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diggy
10-30-2012, 09:07 PM
I'm sure that there are some people who have not gotten a chance to vote yet and maybe will not get a chance to do so before the 6th. Will they postpone the election or just keep things the way they are? Any news on this? Or am I too early with this thought?

EAGLE EYE
10-30-2012, 09:18 PM
hahahahah yea by killing a whopping number of less than 50 people and wasting money on recovery for a storm that they orchestrated

the logic is impeccable.

HAHAHAHaHA

I've seen bachelor parties bigger than the death toll.

I've seen more asians living an apartment than the death toll

Radar Van probably has more confused European fans - who think he's wutang than the death poll.

IronSheik
10-30-2012, 09:20 PM
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“Death investigator” and cops examine the skull.

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A homeless woman made a spooky Halloween’s eve discovery on the Upper Green: bones from a centuries-old human body unearthed by a giant oak tree toppled by Superstorm Sandy.The woman, Katie Carbo, made the discovery around 3:15 p.m. near the corner of College and Chapel streets. Visible among the roots of the tree is the back of skull, upside down, with its mouth open (pictured). It is still connected to a spine and rib cage.
Carbo called police, who confirmed the discovery. Detectives headed to the scene to investigate.
Sgt. Anthony Zona said the police do not suspect foul play. He noted that that part of the Green long ago served as a burial ground.
“That body has probably been there a long, long time,” Zona said.
“Twenty-four years on the job,” he added, “and different things just happen all the time.”

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At 6:55 p.m., Alfredo Camargo arrived on scene from the state medical examiner’s office. His title: “Death investigator.” (Seriously.)The police had set up a bright spotlight so Camargo could work.
He zipped up his Tyvek suit, put on white rubber gloves, then climbed into the hole in the tree to examine the bones.
He then came out and pronounced: “It’s going to take us a while.”
He grabbed a hand-held rake, a sifter, and trowel, and brushes. He predicted the job will take a couple of hours—if it doesn’t rain.

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Camargo got to work digging out leaves from the hole.
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Camargo passed bones out to Gary Aronsen (pictured), a Yale anthropologist, who put them into individual, labeled plastic bags.Sgt. Sam Brown grabbed a tarp to protect the death investigator as he worked.
How The Discovery Happened

Carbo may have been the second person to find the remains, but the first to report it to authorities.

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The tree fell at around 6 p.m. Monday near the peak of Superstorm Sandy. A stone marker at the foot of the tree identifies it as the “Lincoln Oak,” planted in 1909 on the 100th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s birth.
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A local artist, Silas Finch (http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/my_brother_jack_seeks_dramatic_financial_leads/) (at left in photo), saw it fall. He started rooting around—for hours—in the root ball upended along with the tree looking for old coins. He even came back Tuesday morning to dig some more.At one point he found what he thought was a human bone. It was about a foot long, Finch said. He called his friend, a fellow artist and New Haven historian named Robert Greenberg (http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/dead_speak_on_the_green/).
“No way there could be human bones. It’s an animal bone.” Finch recalled Greenberg telling him. “Lo and behold, it’s definitely not.”

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Then Carbo (pictured), a Green regular who participated in Occupy New Haven protests earlier this year (http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/occupy_sees_walls_closing_in/), spotted bones in the tree as she looked at it Tuesday afternoon.She remembered thinking, “Wait a minute, that doesn’t look like a regular rock.” It turned out to be a skull. She touched it, a piece came off, and she could tell it was bone, she said.
“I took a stick and unearthed it more,” Carbo said. “It was just crazy. I just couldn’t believe it. I knew it was a cemetery here.”

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Soon a rib cage, a spinal column, and a skull were visible, complete with open mouth and a full set of teeth.A crowd gathered. Sgt. Anthony Zona said detectives had been notified and were on their way.
“This is someone’s family remains. It should be given a proper burial,” Carbo said.

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Ribs and spinal vertebrae.

Silas Finch was back at the scene, recalling his initial discovery.“It was really creepy,” he said with a shiver. “I was literally down in that hole directly in front of that skull.”
Carbo said she wasn’t creeped out. “I feel like it was just someone’s earthly shell. Their soul is long gone from here.”

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At 5:50 p.m., as a crowd gathered near the skull and a TV news crew showed up, Curtis T (at left in photo) passed on his way to a homeless shelter. “You think it’s the hurricane?” he said about the tree’s uprooting. “I think a dead man trying to tell a tale.”
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At 6:30 p.m. police showed up with a large spotlight used to illuminate crime scenes. They flooded the root with light, attracting a growing crowd. The cops set up a perimeter with “crime scene—do not cross” tape.
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Greenberg (at center in photo) opened a binder of historical documents and announced a hypothesis: The skeleton could belong to a victim of small pox, interred in what amounted to a “mass burial site.”As evidence, he cited a passage in the New Haven Green chapter of the book, “Historical Sketches of New Haven.” The book describes how some notables, beginning with Martha Townsend, were buried in the walled-off cemetery behind the Center Church on the Green. Others were buried in the rest of the Upper Green, apparently with great density.
“Sometimes, at the dead of night, apart from the others, the victims of small pox were fearfully hid here,” the book reads. “The ground was filled with graves between the Church and College Street; sixteen bodies having ben found within sixteen square feet.”
The last bodies were buried there in the 1700s, Greenberg said. Then, in 1821, the stones were moved to the Grove Street Cemetery, and the ground was raised to level off the Green. The bodies remained behind.
Cops planned to guard the bones tonight on the graveyard shift.

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At 7:45 p.m., rain began to fall, thwarting the excavation. The death investigator threw up a white tent to protect the work.

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10-31-2012, 01:24 AM
-Waffle House Index' tells FEMA where help is needed


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Two red, two yellow.

What sounds like a child sorting Halloween hard candies this year doubles as something a bit more important to state and federal disaster-management officials: the Waffle House Index for Hurricane Sandy.

Two Waffle Houses near Allentown, Pa., were closed, and two in Maryland were open but serving a limited menu, according to Waffle House spokesperson Kelly Thrasher. All were without electricity; the open ones had gas and water.

Thrasher summarized the Index: when an official phones a Waffle House and the restaurant is open and serving the full menu, the index is Green. When the restaurant is open but serving a limited menu, it's yellow. When it's closed, it's red.

Federal Emergency Management Administration head Craig Fugate devised the index after leading Florida's response to several hurricanes in the 2000s. Based on the 24-hour restaurant chain's hardy reputation and presence across the Southeast, it is an informal yet handy way to assess an area's post-calamity condition.

This allows officials to do quick disaster-relief triage: red areas need help first, and fast.

Thrasher said Hurricane Isaac closed 40 restaurants on the gulf coast for a few days. She attributed the difference between this and Sandy to the chain's high concentration of restaurants in the gulf area. Their restaurants in Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania are fewer and more spread out. There are no Waffle Houses in New Jersey or New York.

In addition, the company was "definitely proactive" before Sandy hit, Thrasher said. They tracked the storm all last week and sent an advance team pre-landfall with extra supplies and employees.

The Waffle House Index has its own hashtag. "How can the severity of Sandy be measured? The northern most WaffleHouse is in Ohio. #WaffleHouseIndex," a Twitter user [@rkeni2] tweeted yesterday.

Thrasher called the attention "very flattering," but added: "This is what we do all the time: to be there for our customers and associates on an everyday basis."

A call to FEMA went unreturned. Perhaps they were busy calling Waffle House.


--http://news.yahoo.com/hurricane-sandy-waffle-house-index-points-relief-eastern-172335063--abc-news-topstories.html

check two
10-31-2012, 12:44 PM
-One of the world's most wanted terrorists offers hurricane aid to the US:


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The U.S. has turned down an offer of post-Hurricane Sandy assistance from one of the world's most wanted men, a Pakistani terror leader with a $10 million U.S. bounty on his head.

Hafiz Saeed, an Islamist militant who is alleged to have masterminded the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks that left more than 160 people dead, issued a written statement Wednesday saying his organization was willing to send supplies and volunteers to help the U.S. East Coast recover.

"We are ready to send food items, medicines and doctors to the U.S. for the people affected by the storm," said Saeed. "America [may] fix bounties on our heads but as followers of the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him), we feel it is our Islamic duty to help Americans trapped in a catastrophe." Saeed noted that the charity he heads had provided aid in Sri Lanka and Indonesia after the 2004 tsunami.

Saeed is the founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba, a terror group banned by the Pakistani government, and still heads its charity wing, Jamaat ud Dawa. Earlier this year the U.S. State Department offered a $10 million reward for information leading to his capture or arrest.

After Saeed's offer of assistance, the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan declined his help via Twitter. "We respect the Islamic tradition of help to the needy," said the tweet, "but we can't take Hafiz Saeed's offer seriously."

Saeed founded Lashkar-e-Taiba more than 25 years ago and has mounted many attacks against India as part of a campaign to wrest the Kashmir region from Indian control. Saeed is accused of masterminding the Nov. 26, 2008 terror attacks on the city of Mumbai. Ten gunmen took part in the multi-day assault, which cost the lives of at least 166 people, including six Americans. The lone surviving attacker, who faces a death penalty, has accused Saeed of hatching the plot.

Pakistan kept Saeed under house arrest after the attacks for some months but then released him. He maintains a high public profile inside the country. In September, he led street protests against the anti-Islam film "Innocence of Muslims."

On April 2, when the State Department announced its $10 million reward for Saeed, it said the bounty had "everything to do with Mumbai and his brazen flouting of the justice system."

Saeed responded to the announcement of the bounty by publicly taunting the U.S. government.

"I am here, I am visible," said Saeed on April 4. "America should give that reward money to me."

"I will be in Lahore tomorrow. America can contact me whenever it wants to," said Saeed. He also expressed surprise that the U.S. did not know where he was, offered to face charges in an American court, and said America had "gone blind" because of its hatred of Islam.

State Department spokesman Mark Toner reacted to Saeed's taunts by stressing that the reward was for information leading to his arrest or conviction, not his location. "We all know where he is," said Toner. "Every journalist in Pakistan knows where he is." Toner said it was unfortunate that Saeed was free to give press conferences, but that the U.S. hopes "to put him behind bars" and is seeking information that would "give the Pakistani government the tools to arrest him."

The $10 million bounty makes Saeed among the top five most-wanted on the U.S. terror list; al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri is worth a $25 million reward. The U.S. also offered up to $2 million for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Saeed's brother-in-law, who is the deputy leader of Lashkar-e-Taiba.


http://gma.yahoo.com/terrorist-offers-hurricane-aid-us-says-no-thanks-151821686--abc-news-topstories.html

infinite vagina
10-31-2012, 01:28 PM
damn sandy went in

infinite vagina
10-31-2012, 01:38 PM
KgFHM8HMbWQ

s-LIEr43_wk

bruce springsteen warned us about sandy decades ago

Soul Controller
10-31-2012, 02:01 PM
-One of the world's most wanted terrorists offers hurricane aid to the US:


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The U.S. has turned down an offer of post-Hurricane Sandy assistance from one of the world's most wanted men, a Pakistani terror leader with a $10 million U.S. bounty on his head.

Hafiz Saeed, an Islamist militant who is alleged to have masterminded the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks that left more than 160 people dead, issued a written statement Wednesday saying his organization was willing to send supplies and volunteers to help the U.S. East Coast recover.

"We are ready to send food items, medicines and doctors to the U.S. for the people affected by the storm," said Saeed. "America [may] fix bounties on our heads but as followers of the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him), we feel it is our Islamic duty to help Americans trapped in a catastrophe." Saeed noted that the charity he heads had provided aid in Sri Lanka and Indonesia after the 2004 tsunami.

Saeed is the founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba, a terror group banned by the Pakistani government, and still heads its charity wing, Jamaat ud Dawa. Earlier this year the U.S. State Department offered a $10 million reward for information leading to his capture or arrest.

After Saeed's offer of assistance, the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan declined his help via Twitter. "We respect the Islamic tradition of help to the needy," said the tweet, "but we can't take Hafiz Saeed's offer seriously."

Saeed founded Lashkar-e-Taiba more than 25 years ago and has mounted many attacks against India as part of a campaign to wrest the Kashmir region from Indian control. Saeed is accused of masterminding the Nov. 26, 2008 terror attacks on the city of Mumbai. Ten gunmen took part in the multi-day assault, which cost the lives of at least 166 people, including six Americans. The lone surviving attacker, who faces a death penalty, has accused Saeed of hatching the plot.

Pakistan kept Saeed under house arrest after the attacks for some months but then released him. He maintains a high public profile inside the country. In September, he led street protests against the anti-Islam film "Innocence of Muslims."

On April 2, when the State Department announced its $10 million reward for Saeed, it said the bounty had "everything to do with Mumbai and his brazen flouting of the justice system."

Saeed responded to the announcement of the bounty by publicly taunting the U.S. government.

"I am here, I am visible," said Saeed on April 4. "America should give that reward money to me."

"I will be in Lahore tomorrow. America can contact me whenever it wants to," said Saeed. He also expressed surprise that the U.S. did not know where he was, offered to face charges in an American court, and said America had "gone blind" because of its hatred of Islam.

State Department spokesman Mark Toner reacted to Saeed's taunts by stressing that the reward was for information leading to his arrest or conviction, not his location. "We all know where he is," said Toner. "Every journalist in Pakistan knows where he is." Toner said it was unfortunate that Saeed was free to give press conferences, but that the U.S. hopes "to put him behind bars" and is seeking information that would "give the Pakistani government the tools to arrest him."

The $10 million bounty makes Saeed among the top five most-wanted on the U.S. terror list; al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri is worth a $25 million reward. The U.S. also offered up to $2 million for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Saeed's brother-in-law, who is the deputy leader of Lashkar-e-Taiba.


http://gma.yahoo.com/terrorist-offers-hurricane-aid-us-says-no-thanks-151821686--abc-news-topstories.html



story is a fake, for many reasons, mainly due to the indian courts deciding that an american agent, along with teh isi, where responsible for the making of the bomb/materials/expertise to assemble it, even the plan to bomb mumbai where all down to the 'US AGENT'

watch the video on this link, contains court footage.

The US Agent and the Mumbai Massacre
by grtv
http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/06/us-agent-and-mumbai-massacre


if you dont want to believe grtv, just do a search on mumbai bombing us agent (david headly) isi,. you will get shit loads of links from western media sources..

it just wasnt covered on the mainstream.. lolol

kinda like the fbi giving that dude 2 weeks ago all the equipment and resources to build the bomb.. lololol what a great new way of prevent terrorism.. create the terror, then stop it right before the bang,,, lol

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^^ true story

Sky Blue Bally Kid
10-31-2012, 02:02 PM
lol ceited hasn't posted in a minute, I reckon he's currently floating somewhere in the north Atlantic on a raft hastily constructed from flash drives and empty ciroc bottles and bound together with USB cables...

Soul Controller
10-31-2012, 02:10 PM
Related :


Extreme Weather in USA on Wednesday

Description: (the largest volcanic eruption of the 20th century)

Strong winds swept ash from the largest volcanic eruption of the 20th century into the atmosphere Tuesday, creating a haze over Alaska's Kodiak Island and prompting the National Weather Service to issue flight warnings for the area. Powerful northwest winds funneled through the mountains at the Katmai Bay, sending ash around 4,000 feet into the sky southeast toward Kodiak.

Brian Hagenbuch, general meteorologist at the National Weather Service Anchorage office, was the first to spot the ash. “When the sun came up yesterday, I noticed it looked foggy on the Larson Bay camera,” one of many cameras set up by the FAA to monitor weather conditions. But as the sun continued to rise, he noted the fog looked smoggy and brown. Around 10 a.m., Hagenbuch checked the visible satellite and found a “milky, dome-shaped plume.”

He then double-checked on infra-red equipment that is used specifically to spot ash even through cloud cover, which verified his findings. Having confirmed his suspicions, Hagenbuch put together a "Significant Meterological Event" warning, called a SIGMET, to alert pilots of the hazardous conditions in the area. Hagenbuch says that very strong winds “from time to time” will stir up the ash from Novarupta.

The Novarupta volcanic eruption of June 6, 1912, occurred in what is now the Katmai National Park and Preserve. For three days, the volcano spewed 100 times more material than the Mount St. Helens eruption, shooting plumes 20 miles into the air and burying the valley downwind in over 500 feet of ash and volcanic rock. Four years later, when botanist Robert Griggs visited the valley, steam still poured from vents across the valley, prompting the crew to name it The Valley of Ten Thousand Smokes. Hagenbuch will update, and possibly cancel, the SIGMET on the National Weather Service’s website Wednesday. Hagenbuch notes that there is “much less” ash in the air than Tuesday.


most likely caused due to teh magma movement that caused the bc quake friday

IronSheik
10-31-2012, 02:11 PM
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10-31-2012, 03:52 PM
--How many NYC rats survived hurricane Sandy?


This question has been asked in the wake of Sandy's flooding of lower and east Manhattan. See, for example, articles in Huffington Post Green, Forbes, National Geographic, Business Insider, Mother Nature Network and NYMag. The short answer is: some rats drowned, some survived. The complicated question, how many drowned and how many survived, is probably impossible to answer. But we can speculate using the information and knowledge we have in our possession. But things we really need to know, we don't - information is just not available (and some of it never will be). How many rats are in NYC? Nobody knows. Nobody seems to even be attempting to estimate.

Beware of the myth that there is one rat per person. That is a very old myth. It started in 1909 when W.R.Boelter published a study of rats in England. He asked farmers (but never bothered to look in the cities) to estimate how many rats they have in their fields. From that informal survey, Boelter came up with an average of one rat per acre (yes, of agricultural land). At that time, there were 40 million cultivated acres in England. From that, he estimated the total population of rats on agricultural land to be about 40 million. Completely coincidentally, England in 1909 also had a population of 40 million people. So, the 1:1 ratio stuck. And it has been repeated for more than a century, by media, by scientists, by United Nations, by pest control companies, by health departments, and apparently everyone else.

In 1949, Dave Davis did a systematic study of rats, by trapping and capturing them, and estimated that rat population in New York City was only about 250,000. Not even close to 8 million. An aside - I have an indirect personal connection to Davis. For a while he was a professor in the Department of Zoology at NCSU, that is, in my own department. At the time he was ready to retire, in the 1970s, he was actively working on daily and seasonal rhythms in various animals. He used to work with Curt Richter before, at Johns Hopkins, and Curt is one of the pioneers of chronobiology. David sent some woodchucks on a ship from Philadelphia to Australia. While on the ship, rats kept EST time, but quickly re-entrained to the Australian local time once they arrived there and were exposed to ambient light. Although the field was still very young, Davis' work made the rest of the department aware of it (they did not think it was Biorrhythms silliness, as many assumed at the time), so they were interested in hiring a replacement who was doing something similar. So they hired this bright, young lad from Texas in his spot - two Science papers already published and he took only 3.5 years to get both MS and PhD. The new faculty's name was Herbert Underwood. Two decades later I joined the Underwood lab. The rest is history.

Anyway, back to rat population. Estimates vary wildly, to as high as 32 million. Nobody really knows. New York City is old. It was built and rebuilt. New buildings were built on top of the old ones. There are old, buried tunnels, rooms, chambers, now not accessible to humans but perfectly accessible to rats. Gradually, the city dug out more and more sewers, more and more various pipes, more subways and other tunnels. Thus more places for rats to nest. We gradually built comfortable homes for more and more rats. The rat population is not evenly distributed either. They tend to be where poor people live, and where the restaurants are. That's where there is food. And not all rats go to the surface. Rats are pretty loyal to the place of birth, and rarely venture more than about 60 feet from it, throughout their lives. If displaced, they can find their way home from as far as 4 miles, but for a foot-long animal, that is an extremely long distance. If they can get food down under, e.g., from subway passengers throwing out uneaten food onto the tracks (which they do), rats never need to go up to the surface. They never get captured and counted in surface surveys.

Can rats swim? Yes, rats are strong swimmers. They can even dive for a little while - if a domesticated rat can be trained to dive (and enjoy it), I assume that a wild rat can do it when its life is threatened: The thing is, swimming in a water maze in the lab, or on the surface of a body of water is one thing. Swimming upward, against the powerful stream of water streaming downward is a completely different thing. They may be strong swimmers, but they are not Johnny Weissmullers.

There are many ways up to the surface, but they all go up. And if the water was mainly gushing into the tunnels from above, from the streets as Sandy was flooding, they would have had to swim or dive up narrow pipes, essentially vertically up against the water. No way. Those guys drowned. To go up to the surface, rats need to know the way to the surface. Rats know their own territory very well. But rats that never go to the surface do not know how to get there. They may still want to instinctually go up, but they don't know the way so would have to get lucky to actually find the stairs and then fight their way up against the gushing water. Rats already on the surface would probably be fine. The water and wind from Battery would carry them north until they reach the dry ground. They can certainly stay on the surface. Salty water is denser than fresh water, so they would find it even easier to stay on the surface, though their eyes may not like all of the salt.

What was flooded, when and how? Right now, we do not know exactly where, when and how the water entered the subway tunnels, sewers, etc. MTA site does not provide much information. New York Times does not either - they are concerned with information useful to people, e.g., when will the subway open again, not where, when and how the subway initially flooded. Most likely the water came from above, from the flooded streets after sea water rose high at the Battery and the East side. This is important. It is easier for rats to float on the surface of water rising from below, than to fight against the water falling from above. Also, most of Manhattan (and rest of NYC) did not flood at all. Most of the rats probably survived just fine where they were.

Who lived, who died? So, from above, we can speculate that many rats survived. Some were never affected by flooding. Some were on the surface already and managed to run or swim to the higher ground. Some knew their way out to the surface and made it there. Rats are smart and crafty - if they can find a way to hide or go out, they will. But some rats certainly drowned. Those are the rats that live deep inside holes we never know about, let alone visit. Rats that never go up to the surface. Rats that had the misfortune to have to try to escape essentially vertically up against strong gushing water.

There is a rule of thumb - if you see a rat on the surface during the daylight time, this means that the underground population is enormous. And I see them every month I go up to New York. When the rats are crowded, dominant rats take the best spots. If the population forages on the surface, dominant rats forage during the night. Subdominant (or submissive) rats are temporally displaced to the daytime shift. This is important. If Sandy started to flood the tunnels during the day (and nobody knows, or makes public, this information as the subway was already closed to people by then), it will be the non-dominant rats who are on the surface, and thus more likely to survive. If the flooding started at night, it will be dominant rats on the surface, floating away into safety. Dominant rats are more likely to be able to relocate and survive in other places where they have to compete with locals. Non-dominant rats would have a much harder time finding a new home. So, my guess is that most of the rats survived. But quite a large number of rats drowned - depending on exact location, depth, how much they know how to get to the surface at all, their exact route to the surface, and their status in the social hierarchy.


-http://news.yahoo.com/did-nyc-rats-survive-hurricane-sandy-145300795.html

food for thought
10-31-2012, 04:52 PM
October surprise ftw

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20121031&t=2&i=669407723&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=700&pl=300&r=CBRE89U1NJ700

KERZO
10-31-2012, 05:57 PM
The only thing worse than watching people talk and post pictures of this rubbish is the way they're gonna act afterwards like "hell yeah, we survived this godly storm, lets all smile cos we love each other and hug n shit" - fuck you, I hope ya dog got ate by a shark you motherfucker!!

i think it's neat how you guys think outside the box.

It's cool that you think thoughts about stuff, and then share them with others electronically

*dead*

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/487249_10151295640697146_2125410292_n.jpg

That's fucking hilarious as well as the vid "POPEYES IS CLOSED!!!"

approaching 100billion in losses and damages.
why can't the cause be a wildly swinging pendulum? our weather is getting more and more extreme in both directions. scientists have been telling us for years that we are reaching tipping point. i wouldnt be surprised if we have an extremely cold year following this extremely hot one.

Yeah, you better construct a double duvet glitter jacket to stay protected gawd!

well they can't predict how many people it would kill. i could be wrong. they could have tried to get out of debt by getting people into debt. it's hit NY and i believe it is quite a rich state. people who don't have insurance will have to buy everything that needs replacing or fixing.

You're either a troll or a fucking retard....

lol ceited hasn't posted in a minute, I reckon he's currently floating somewhere in the north Atlantic on a raft hastily constructed from flash drives and empty ciroc bottles and bound together with USB cables...

Dude is surfin right now down the street on his TV!!

Uncle Steezo
10-31-2012, 07:56 PM
you are the worst troll EVER.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-31-2012, 08:13 PM
You're either a troll or a fucking retard....





how does that make me a troll or a retard? in order to boost the economy they have to increase spending.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-31-2012, 08:24 PM
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/images/sized/archives/upload/2012/10/mb/bones-8522-550x367.jpg

“Death investigator” and cops examine the skull.

http://www.newhavenindependent.org/images/sized/archives/upload/2012/10/TRM_103012_0104a-550x366.jpg


A homeless woman made a spooky Halloween’s eve discovery on the Upper Green: bones from a centuries-old human body unearthed by a giant oak tree toppled by Superstorm Sandy.The woman, Katie Carbo, made the discovery around 3:15 p.m. near the corner of College and Chapel streets. Visible among the roots of the tree is the back of skull, upside down, with its mouth open (pictured). It is still connected to a spine and rib cage.
Carbo called police, who confirmed the discovery. Detectives headed to the scene to investigate.
Sgt. Anthony Zona said the police do not suspect foul play. He noted that that part of the Green long ago served as a burial ground.
“That body has probably been there a long, long time,” Zona said.
“Twenty-four years on the job,” he added, “and different things just happen all the time.”

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At 6:55 p.m., Alfredo Camargo arrived on scene from the state medical examiner’s office. His title: “Death investigator.” (Seriously.)The police had set up a bright spotlight so Camargo could work.
He zipped up his Tyvek suit, put on white rubber gloves, then climbed into the hole in the tree to examine the bones.
He then came out and pronounced: “It’s going to take us a while.”
He grabbed a hand-held rake, a sifter, and trowel, and brushes. He predicted the job will take a couple of hours—if it doesn’t rain.

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Camargo got to work digging out leaves from the hole.
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Camargo passed bones out to Gary Aronsen (pictured), a Yale anthropologist, who put them into individual, labeled plastic bags.Sgt. Sam Brown grabbed a tarp to protect the death investigator as he worked.
How The Discovery Happened

Carbo may have been the second person to find the remains, but the first to report it to authorities.

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The tree fell at around 6 p.m. Monday near the peak of Superstorm Sandy. A stone marker at the foot of the tree identifies it as the “Lincoln Oak,” planted in 1909 on the 100th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s birth.
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A local artist, Silas Finch (http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/my_brother_jack_seeks_dramatic_financial_leads/) (at left in photo), saw it fall. He started rooting around—for hours—in the root ball upended along with the tree looking for old coins. He even came back Tuesday morning to dig some more.At one point he found what he thought was a human bone. It was about a foot long, Finch said. He called his friend, a fellow artist and New Haven historian named Robert Greenberg (http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/dead_speak_on_the_green/).
“No way there could be human bones. It’s an animal bone.” Finch recalled Greenberg telling him. “Lo and behold, it’s definitely not.”

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Then Carbo (pictured), a Green regular who participated in Occupy New Haven protests earlier this year (http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/occupy_sees_walls_closing_in/), spotted bones in the tree as she looked at it Tuesday afternoon.She remembered thinking, “Wait a minute, that doesn’t look like a regular rock.” It turned out to be a skull. She touched it, a piece came off, and she could tell it was bone, she said.
“I took a stick and unearthed it more,” Carbo said. “It was just crazy. I just couldn’t believe it. I knew it was a cemetery here.”

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Soon a rib cage, a spinal column, and a skull were visible, complete with open mouth and a full set of teeth.A crowd gathered. Sgt. Anthony Zona said detectives had been notified and were on their way.
“This is someone’s family remains. It should be given a proper burial,” Carbo said.

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Ribs and spinal vertebrae.

Silas Finch was back at the scene, recalling his initial discovery.“It was really creepy,” he said with a shiver. “I was literally down in that hole directly in front of that skull.”
Carbo said she wasn’t creeped out. “I feel like it was just someone’s earthly shell. Their soul is long gone from here.”

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At 5:50 p.m., as a crowd gathered near the skull and a TV news crew showed up, Curtis T (at left in photo) passed on his way to a homeless shelter. “You think it’s the hurricane?” he said about the tree’s uprooting. “I think a dead man trying to tell a tale.”
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At 6:30 p.m. police showed up with a large spotlight used to illuminate crime scenes. They flooded the root with light, attracting a growing crowd. The cops set up a perimeter with “crime scene—do not cross” tape.
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Greenberg (at center in photo) opened a binder of historical documents and announced a hypothesis: The skeleton could belong to a victim of small pox, interred in what amounted to a “mass burial site.”As evidence, he cited a passage in the New Haven Green chapter of the book, “Historical Sketches of New Haven.” The book describes how some notables, beginning with Martha Townsend, were buried in the walled-off cemetery behind the Center Church on the Green. Others were buried in the rest of the Upper Green, apparently with great density.
“Sometimes, at the dead of night, apart from the others, the victims of small pox were fearfully hid here,” the book reads. “The ground was filled with graves between the Church and College Street; sixteen bodies having ben found within sixteen square feet.”
The last bodies were buried there in the 1700s, Greenberg said. Then, in 1821, the stones were moved to the Grove Street Cemetery, and the ground was raised to level off the Green. The bodies remained behind.
Cops planned to guard the bones tonight on the graveyard shift.

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At 7:45 p.m., rain began to fall, thwarting the excavation. The death investigator threw up a white tent to protect the work.

i've always wanted to be buried under a tree. i reckon i should be cremated before being buried.




--How many NYC rats survived hurricane Sandy?


This question has been asked in the wake of Sandy's flooding of lower and east Manhattan. See, for example, articles in Huffington Post Green, Forbes, National Geographic, Business Insider, Mother Nature Network and NYMag. The short answer is: some rats drowned, some survived. The complicated question, how many drowned and how many survived, is probably impossible to answer. But we can speculate using the information and knowledge we have in our possession. But things we really need to know, we don't - information is just not available (and some of it never will be). How many rats are in NYC? Nobody knows. Nobody seems to even be attempting to estimate.

Beware of the myth that there is one rat per person. That is a very old myth. It started in 1909 when W.R.Boelter published a study of rats in England. He asked farmers (but never bothered to look in the cities) to estimate how many rats they have in their fields. From that informal survey, Boelter came up with an average of one rat per acre (yes, of agricultural land). At that time, there were 40 million cultivated acres in England. From that, he estimated the total population of rats on agricultural land to be about 40 million. Completely coincidentally, England in 1909 also had a population of 40 million people. So, the 1:1 ratio stuck. And it has been repeated for more than a century, by media, by scientists, by United Nations, by pest control companies, by health departments, and apparently everyone else.

In 1949, Dave Davis did a systematic study of rats, by trapping and capturing them, and estimated that rat population in New York City was only about 250,000. Not even close to 8 million. An aside - I have an indirect personal connection to Davis. For a while he was a professor in the Department of Zoology at NCSU, that is, in my own department. At the time he was ready to retire, in the 1970s, he was actively working on daily and seasonal rhythms in various animals. He used to work with Curt Richter before, at Johns Hopkins, and Curt is one of the pioneers of chronobiology. David sent some woodchucks on a ship from Philadelphia to Australia. While on the ship, rats kept EST time, but quickly re-entrained to the Australian local time once they arrived there and were exposed to ambient light. Although the field was still very young, Davis' work made the rest of the department aware of it (they did not think it was Biorrhythms silliness, as many assumed at the time), so they were interested in hiring a replacement who was doing something similar. So they hired this bright, young lad from Texas in his spot - two Science papers already published and he took only 3.5 years to get both MS and PhD. The new faculty's name was Herbert Underwood. Two decades later I joined the Underwood lab. The rest is history.

Anyway, back to rat population. Estimates vary wildly, to as high as 32 million. Nobody really knows. New York City is old. It was built and rebuilt. New buildings were built on top of the old ones. There are old, buried tunnels, rooms, chambers, now not accessible to humans but perfectly accessible to rats. Gradually, the city dug out more and more sewers, more and more various pipes, more subways and other tunnels. Thus more places for rats to nest. We gradually built comfortable homes for more and more rats. The rat population is not evenly distributed either. They tend to be where poor people live, and where the restaurants are. That's where there is food. And not all rats go to the surface. Rats are pretty loyal to the place of birth, and rarely venture more than about 60 feet from it, throughout their lives. If displaced, they can find their way home from as far as 4 miles, but for a foot-long animal, that is an extremely long distance. If they can get food down under, e.g., from subway passengers throwing out uneaten food onto the tracks (which they do), rats never need to go up to the surface. They never get captured and counted in surface surveys.

Can rats swim? Yes, rats are strong swimmers. They can even dive for a little while - if a domesticated rat can be trained to dive (and enjoy it), I assume that a wild rat can do it when its life is threatened: The thing is, swimming in a water maze in the lab, or on the surface of a body of water is one thing. Swimming upward, against the powerful stream of water streaming downward is a completely different thing. They may be strong swimmers, but they are not Johnny Weissmullers.

There are many ways up to the surface, but they all go up. And if the water was mainly gushing into the tunnels from above, from the streets as Sandy was flooding, they would have had to swim or dive up narrow pipes, essentially vertically up against the water. No way. Those guys drowned. To go up to the surface, rats need to know the way to the surface. Rats know their own territory very well. But rats that never go to the surface do not know how to get there. They may still want to instinctually go up, but they don't know the way so would have to get lucky to actually find the stairs and then fight their way up against the gushing water. Rats already on the surface would probably be fine. The water and wind from Battery would carry them north until they reach the dry ground. They can certainly stay on the surface. Salty water is denser than fresh water, so they would find it even easier to stay on the surface, though their eyes may not like all of the salt.

What was flooded, when and how? Right now, we do not know exactly where, when and how the water entered the subway tunnels, sewers, etc. MTA site does not provide much information. New York Times does not either - they are concerned with information useful to people, e.g., when will the subway open again, not where, when and how the subway initially flooded. Most likely the water came from above, from the flooded streets after sea water rose high at the Battery and the East side. This is important. It is easier for rats to float on the surface of water rising from below, than to fight against the water falling from above. Also, most of Manhattan (and rest of NYC) did not flood at all. Most of the rats probably survived just fine where they were.

Who lived, who died? So, from above, we can speculate that many rats survived. Some were never affected by flooding. Some were on the surface already and managed to run or swim to the higher ground. Some knew their way out to the surface and made it there. Rats are smart and crafty - if they can find a way to hide or go out, they will. But some rats certainly drowned. Those are the rats that live deep inside holes we never know about, let alone visit. Rats that never go up to the surface. Rats that had the misfortune to have to try to escape essentially vertically up against strong gushing water.

There is a rule of thumb - if you see a rat on the surface during the daylight time, this means that the underground population is enormous. And I see them every month I go up to New York. When the rats are crowded, dominant rats take the best spots. If the population forages on the surface, dominant rats forage during the night. Subdominant (or submissive) rats are temporally displaced to the daytime shift. This is important. If Sandy started to flood the tunnels during the day (and nobody knows, or makes public, this information as the subway was already closed to people by then), it will be the non-dominant rats who are on the surface, and thus more likely to survive. If the flooding started at night, it will be dominant rats on the surface, floating away into safety. Dominant rats are more likely to be able to relocate and survive in other places where they have to compete with locals. Non-dominant rats would have a much harder time finding a new home. So, my guess is that most of the rats survived. But quite a large number of rats drowned - depending on exact location, depth, how much they know how to get to the surface at all, their exact route to the surface, and their status in the social hierarchy.


-http://news.yahoo.com/did-nyc-rats-survive-hurricane-sandy-145300795.html


a lot of them may have died but lets not forget that rats breed like MFs.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-31-2012, 08:53 PM
for sheited..


nothing to do with haarp, its nex rad, chem trails.. a big difference! like i said :p

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if weather weapons exist, why wouldn't they be used against north korea, china or iran first?


if it was chem trails then it looks like the machines exist only in the US and perhaps they haven't yet mastered how to get it going to those countries you've mentioned. maybe that was the plan all along but it went wrong and it backfired on them.

diggy
10-31-2012, 09:19 PM
lol ceited hasn't posted in a minute, I reckon he's currently floating somewhere in the north Atlantic on a raft hastily constructed from flash drives and empty ciroc bottles and bound together with USB cables...


Skamp, hasn't posted since Sunday, a day before Sandy hit. Wonder what he's doing.

???

check two
10-31-2012, 09:29 PM
Skamp, hasn't posted since Sunday, a day before Sandy hit. Wonder what he's doing.

???


He's been in the frozen food aisle since then.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-31-2012, 09:35 PM
they have to boost the economy because China's economy is growing and may overtake the US?

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-31-2012, 09:43 PM
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The lights at Goldman Sachs stay on through hurricane: Electricity as the new symbol of Wall Street greed
By S. Mitra Kalita — 5 hours ago
During the Great Recession, Goldman Sachs’ corporate jets were linked to a culture of excess. Hurricane Sandy has lowered the bar for public outrage: Now it’s directed at the investment bank’s generators.

As Wall Street lost power and plunged into darkness, the lights stayed on at Goldman’s signature tower at 200 West Street. Charlie Walk took this photo and posted it on Instagram (used with permission):




that hurricane might have even been sponsored by goldman sachs.

Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 02:08 AM
if it was chem trails then it looks like the machines exist only in the US and perhaps they haven't yet mastered how to get it going to those countries you've mentioned. maybe that was the plan all along but it went wrong and it backfired on them.


us machinery was only used to tone the severity of the hurricane down,

this hurricane was natural, it wasnt guided, haarp/chemtrails do not control / guide hurricanes.

Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 07:27 AM
video from the national guard...

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Aviators of the 1-150th Assault Helicopter Battalion, New Jersey National Guard, look for displaced residents along the coastline of Seaside Heights Oct. 30, in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. (Video by Master Sgt. Mark C. Olsen/108th WG/PA


shit looks alot worse than, what media outside of america is reporting.. this is a disaster of epic proportions.. thats only going to get worse as time progress'

wonder if floortilecloud is one of the lucky people (only 300k people have electricity in jersey)


Someone just sent this message to me ----> "Regarding Sandy; I am no mathematical genius, nor even proficient in advanced hydraulics, but a quick basic run of the numbers and you can find this - if flood height of Sandy was 10 feet, one square mile has 27,878,400 square feet, with 10 cubic feet of water on each one of those square feet weighing 620lbs each, would be a sudden footprint of 17,284,608,000 lbs. What I am unable to figure accurately enough to post is the psi.

My point being there has to be an enormous amount of hidden fracturing, and there has to be a potential source of unknown stress to underground structures. Not trying to be fearful, I believe it does merit an amount of attention"



this is on an epic scale

Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 07:38 AM
http://CoastGuardNews.com NEW YORK -- A Coast Guard Air Station Cape Cod, Mass., helicopter crew conducted an over-flight of New Jersey and New York coast and waterways following Hurricane Sandy, Oct. 30, 2012. The crew observed extensive land and property damages during the flight.
U.S. Coast Guard video by Public Affairs Detachment New York.

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Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 08:06 AM
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Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 08:32 AM
We ain't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.

Cities are man made canyons of death....this is what the Hopi say they will become, and I believe them.


btw. hearing that the water has disease/virus' (not surprising with all the epic amounts of sewage/contaminants new amsterdam has)


Pollution & Debris Stirred by Sandy Threaten Coastal Waters

Oil, pesticides, PCBs: Drip by drip, year after year, pollutants are absorbed into New York City's streets, and now Hurricane Sandy's floodwaters are soaking them out.

continued..

http://www.livescience.com/24449-sandy-water-contamination-risk.html

food for thought
11-01-2012, 11:33 AM
'Pure mayhem' as New York City tries to get back to work

Msnbc's Thomas Roberts takes a look at aerial shots of massive bus lines and snarled traffic in New York City as the subway remains flooded in lower Manhattan, where CNBC's Scott Cohn reports.
By Miguel Llanos, NBC News
The promise of limited restoration of transit services lured hundreds of thousands back into the nation's largest city Thursday, but the commute was nightmarish even by New York City's standards: Seemingly endless lines at bus stops, backups at the city's bridges and tunnels stretched for miles, and many people simply gave up after an hour or two of frustration.

Jason DeCrow / AP
Motorists sit in heavy traffic while crossing the Robert F. Kennedy Triboro Bridge Thursday in the Queens borough of New York.

The scene was "pure mayhem," Lanisha Harris, who was trying to get to work in Manhattan from Canarsie, Brooklyn, told NBCNewYork.com in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.
The order that all vehicles entering Manhattan must have at least three occupants appeared to cut down on traffic in the city, but enforcement of the directive caused problems elsewhere.
At the approach to the Lincoln Tunnel, traffic from New Jersey was restricted to a single lane and cars with fewer than three people were being diverted, causing a backup that jammed the state's northern highways.
"Safety is our paramount concern, not convenience," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Thursday in defending his order.
In downtown Brooklyn, "easily a thousand people, possibly more" were in line at the Barclay's Center Thursday morning waiting for public buses, NBC 4 New York reporter Kai Simonsen said from his helicopter viewpoint.

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That led some people to try to hitchhike their way into Manhattan, with drivers eager to pick them up to make the three-person-per-car quota.
"Some folks offered me a ride," said Melanie Bower, 30, who lives in Fort Greene. "I was touched by their kindness at first. But then I realized they just needed me so they could have three in their car.”
Bower walked into Manhattan instead, and then caught a bus uptown.
Related: Photoblog of the commuter chaos
Wednesday evening's commute out of the city was bad as well, leading Gov. Andrew Cuomo to declare that subway, bus and commuter rail services would be free Thursday and Friday.

TODAY's Natalie Morales reports from Hoboken, N.J., where chilling new images capture communities utterly destroyed; meanwhile, thousands still remain trapped in the region without water, power or heat.
After suffering the worst disaster in its 108-year-old history, subway services resumed at 6 a.m. ET Thursday on more than a dozen lines, supplemented by three bus shuttles.
“There will be no subway service between 34th St. in Midtown and Downtown Brooklyn,” the MTA website said.
Across the city, the scene remained chaotic:
LaGuardia Airport was re-opening but several hundred flights at the region's airports were canceled Thursday.
Taxis started pulling vehicles off the road as the fuel crunch deepened, with the vast majority of storm-hit gas stations in the greater New York area now out of gasoline or power to run pumps. Open stations have lines with several hundred cars as well as individuals toting jugs to refuel generators.
Liberty and Ellis islands sustained serious damage, a source at the National Park Service told NBCNewYork.com. "The infrastructure is shot," the source said, adding that the docks and grounds were in "bad shape." While the Statue of Liberty and the museum at its base were OK, the source said, it would likely be "quite a while" before the islands reopen.
Downtown Manhattan was still mostly an urban landscape of shuttered bodegas and boarded-up restaurants, where people roamed in search of food, power and a hot shower.
The Staten Island Railway service was still suspended due to “extensive damage” there.
In Jersey City, across the Hudson River from New York, drivers negotiated intersections without the aid of traffic lights. Lines formed outside pharmacies, while people piled sodden mattresses and furniture on sidewalks. The city has issued a curfew on people as well as a driving ban from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.
Power was still out to 4.5 million homes and businesses in 14 states -- and 3.2 million of those were in New Jersey and New York.
Five massive U.S. military C-5s and 12 C-17s were flying 61 electrical repair vehicles from California to New York on Thursday to help stressed line crews.
The remnants of Sandy, meanwhile, dissipated over Canada. But the storm system, which killed at least 63 people in the U.S., could still dump yet more snow in the Appalachians.
“The last of its effects are winding down along the Appalachian Mountains,” the National Weather Service said, adding that several more inches of snow were possible in some areas of West Virginia and Maryland. “The cleanup can begin.”

In the wake of the superstorm, people are banding together across New York City and New Jersey, offering power, food and even Halloween fun to their neighbors who have been devastated by wind and floods. NBC's Jenna Bush Hager reports.
On New York's Long Island, where 90 percent of homes were still without power, bulldozers scooped sand off streets and tow trucks hauled away destroyed cars, while residents tried to find a way to their homes to restart their lives.
Joanne and Richard Kalb used a rowboat to reach their home in Mastic Beach, filled with 3 feet of water, the Associated Press reported. Her husband, exasperated by the futility of their effort, posted a sign on a telephone pole, asking drivers to slow down: "Slow please no wake."
In New Jersey, President Barack Obama joined Republican Gov. Chris Christie on Wednesday to tour the ravaged coast and promised to get the cleanup moving.
"We are here for you," Obama said in Brigantine, N.J. "We are not going to tolerate red tape. We are not going to tolerate bureaucracy."
The president resumed campaigning Thursday after a three-day hiatus due to the storm.

Most of Sandy's flood waters on New York City's streets have receded, but much of the water beneath the streets remains trapped. TODAY's Savannah Guthrie met with Roger Less of the Army Corps of Engineers to talk about the task of drying out the underground.
Full coverage of Sandy from NBC News
Signs of the good life that had defined wealthy shorefront enclaves like Bayhead and Mantoloking lay scattered and broken: $3,000 barbecue grills buried beneath the sand and hot tubs cracked and filled with seawater, the Associated Press reported.
Nearly all the homes were seriously damaged, and many had entirely disappeared.
"This," said Harry Typaldos, who owns the Grenville Inn in Mantoloking, "I just can't comprehend."
Most of New Jersey's mass transit systems remained shut down, leaving hundreds of thousands of commuters braving clogged highways and quarter-mile lines at gas stations.
Slideshow: Sandy slams into East Coast

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Superstorm Sandy made landfall Monday evening on a destructive and deadly path across the Northeast.

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Atlantic City's casinos remained closed.
Christie postponed Halloween until Monday, saying trick-or-treating wasn't safe in towns with flooded and darkened streets, fallen trees and downed power lines.
Farther north in Hoboken, just across the Hudson River from Manhattan, nearly 20,000 residents remained stranded in their homes, amid accusations that officials have been slow to deliver food and water.
One man blew up an air mattress and floated to City Hall, demanding to know why supplies hadn't gotten out, the Associated Press reported.
At least one-fourth of the city's residents are flooded and 90 percent are without power.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

videos:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14854036-pure-mayhem-as-new-york-city-tries-to-get-back-to-work?lite

diggy
11-01-2012, 12:01 PM
What I wanna know is how are people doing in their day to day living? How are they eating wit no power and stuff? What are they doing?

CEITEDMOFO
11-01-2012, 12:38 PM
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I DONT KNO WHAT THIS VID IS ABOUT BUT YES
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lol ceited hasn't posted in a minute, I reckon he's currently floating somewhere in the north Atlantic on a raft hastily constructed from flash drives and empty ciroc bottles and bound together with USB cables...

THIS GOTTA BE A BLACKULA SECONDARY, ONLY HER VAGINA JUICES FOR ME AS MUCH AS YOU DO,

THE GOD LOST POWER RIGHT BEFORE THE NINERS PLAYED AND I MISSED THE GOD ALEX SMITHs
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CLASSIC GAME OF 18-19 PASSING WITH 1 DROPPED PASS AND 3 TDs

ALWAYS HAD HEAT AND BREW AND TOSTITOS

THAN TUESDAY HAD TO GO TO A SPORTSBAR TO WATCH THE MIAMI HEAT DESTORY THE CELTICS, WHEN I WENT HOME THE POWER WAS BACK AND DIDNT GET INTERNET AND CABLE UNTIL TODAY..

THIS IS THE HORRIBLE HORRIFIC 2012 DAMAGE THAT SANDY DID OUTSIDE MY HOUSE

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SUCKS TO BE IN THE 1% CAUSE I CANT RELATE TO THE SLIMES UNDER WATER


I DROVE TO THE GROUND ZERO AND DECIDED TO DROP OFF SOME EXTRA WATER WE HAD TO THE 99%
http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/files/2012/10/Romney-water-Dharapak-Sandy-hurricane-event.jpg

CEITEDMOFO
11-01-2012, 12:42 PM
*ORDERING NBA LEAGUE PASS AS WE TyPE
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Uncle Steezo
11-01-2012, 12:53 PM
i wonder if anybody has been looting? i mean manhattan got some nice shit. not to mention all the nice cars that were washed away. prolly got some nice shit in those too.

i'm thinking diamond district shit.

diggy
11-01-2012, 01:00 PM
I don't know about looting, but Prodigy said on twitter people dressing up as Con Ed and kickin in doors.

check two
11-01-2012, 01:12 PM
They are eating canned goods and Tastykake's

EAGLE EYE
11-01-2012, 02:13 PM
i wonder if anybody has been looting? i mean manhattan got some nice shit. not to mention all the nice cars that were washed away. prolly got some nice shit in those too.

i'm thinking diamond district shit.

http://www.byroncrawford.com/2012/11/infowars-segment-on-sandylootcrew.html

Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 03:47 PM
cant be fucked to start a new thread on this.. so will just dump info here

relating to an earlier post

November 1, 2012 – ALASKA - There was volcanic ash in the air over the Shelikof Straight and parts of Kodiak Island yesterday. A person in Port Lions called KMXT to ask if a volcano had erupted, but the Alaska Volcano Observatory showed all was normal. However, it turned out that a volcano had erupted, though it wasn’t yesterday – it was almost exactly 100 years ago. The National Weather Service office in Anchorage reported that ash from the Novarupta explosion in 1912 was being whipped up by strong northerly winds because of a lack of snow cover in the Valley of 10,000 Smokes and Katmai National Park on the Alaska Peninsula. The ash was lifted to about 4,000 feet and drifted over the Shelikof Straight and Kodiak Island. It was a significant enough amount that the weather service issued a warning to pilots, as volcanic ash can damage airplane engines. Known as the Katmai Eruption, the 1912 explosion came from a volcanic vent later named Novarupta. It was the largest volcanic eruption of the 20th Century and ash fell on Kodiak for three days. –Alaska Public (http://www.alaskapublic.org/2012/10/31/katmai-ash-whipped-up-by-strong-winds/)

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food for thought
11-01-2012, 03:49 PM
^I would read that pink bold text If i wanted a migraine, bro

CEITEDMOFO
11-01-2012, 04:26 PM
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BrokenWrists
11-01-2012, 04:33 PM
vvLEuUaMCiw&

QE Sandy?

Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 04:35 PM
^I would read that pink bold text If i wanted a migraine, bro

sorry i thought it was purple ;/

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Soul Controller
11-01-2012, 04:47 PM
IveNBZTsC3U
Exclusive coverage of the Super-Blizzard Sandy from the top of the West Virginia Appalachian Mountains, where over 3 feet of snow fell along with 60+ mph winds. Thousands have lost power and communities like Elkins, WV up to Garrett Co, MD are at a standstill and in survival mode. Watch our new online TV series at http://tvnweather.com

KERZO
11-01-2012, 04:48 PM
you are the worst troll EVER.

Yet you still read my posts and reply dustymuffin!

Skamp, hasn't posted since Sunday, a day before Sandy hit. Wonder what he's doing.

???

He's probably sitting in a tent burning the remains of his house and surplus apple products for heat...shyt be serious on duh soggy side of duh port!!!

BrokenWrists
11-01-2012, 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by FMJ
Skamp, hasn't posted since Sunday, a day before Sandy hit. Wonder what he's doing.

???

He took shelter in a hollowed-out Pizza Hut.

CEITEDMOFO
11-01-2012, 05:47 PM
WHEN ROBBY, CHECK TWO, AND & SOUL CONTROLLER WERE INSIDE THERE HOUSES LIKE IF THERE WAS A HURRICANE SANDY,

I WAS OUTSIDE GETTING THE BITCHES HEART THROB HEATHOLDA DOES IT AGAIN
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YES THE CHICK IM WIT IS THICK
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KZTYAeVqxxA

KERZO
11-01-2012, 06:27 PM
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Dude on the left is some bitch ass ariel lip gloss looking skeet bucket motherfucka!

check two
11-01-2012, 06:42 PM
^^

heat looks like a buddha statue in that pic with a penciled on stache

EAGLE EYE
11-01-2012, 06:44 PM
I LIKE HOW HEAT IS SLOWLY MORPHING INTO a KOREAN GUY WHO ROOTS CELLPHONES AND SUFFERS FROM THE SAME HEAD SYNDROME DISEASE THAT JOHN TRAVOLTA AND VAL KILMER SUFFER FROM

CEITEDMOFO
11-01-2012, 07:03 PM
Dude on the left is some bitch ass ariel lip gloss looking skeet bucket motherfucka!
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/391754_542447499102798_1905073158_n.jpg
I LIKE HOW HEAT IS SLOWLY MORPHING INTO a KOREAN GUY WHO ROOTS CELLPHONES AND SUFFERS FROM THE SAME HEAD SYNDROME DISEASE THAT JOHN TRAVOLTA AND VAL KILMER SUFFER FROM

DID U JUST CALL ME A YOUNG KILMER & TRAVOLTA I TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT
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EAGLE EYE
11-01-2012, 08:00 PM
YOU AREN'T A CAUC, SO THEREFORE YOU CAN'T ACCEPT CAUC COMPLIMENTS (NOT THAT IT WAS)

If you get the skin surgery, a better credit score and some nirvana recordS - we will talk :t

Soul Controller
11-02-2012, 08:06 AM
What I wanna know is how are people doing in their day to day living? How are they eating wit no power and stuff? What are they doing?


Very good video this, discuss' and covers what you want to know,, plus some other stuff that many wouldnt have thought of,. ie food/water to the people trapped in the skyscrapers

Cet3Ww9GDWM

CEITEDMOFO
11-02-2012, 09:39 AM
Very good video this, discuss' and covers what you want to know,, plus some other stuff that many wouldnt have thought of,. ie food/water to the people trapped in the skyscrapers

Cet3Ww9GDWM

WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO THAT TRIX BiTCH SPEAK ON YOUTUBE

Soul Controller
11-02-2012, 10:13 AM
then dont listen to her speak, check the links in the description


why u hating on someone who obviously has a deeper understanding than you...

oh i know.. cos its not on some haarp caused this hurr hurrrr shit?
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CEITEDMOFO
11-02-2012, 10:35 AM
LOL@ DAT TILES, THATS THE SECOND FUNNY PIC OUT OF OF 6,260 POSTS

SOUL IS THE A RoD OF WUCORP

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
11-02-2012, 10:53 AM
HEAT why are you hanging out with Sea Hags?

infinite vagina
11-02-2012, 10:53 AM
YOU AREN'T A CAUC, SO THEREFORE YOU CAN'T ACCEPT CAUC COMPLIMENTS (NOT THAT IT WAS)

If you get the skin surgery, a better credit score and some nirvana recordS - we will talk :t

vabnZ9-ex7o

Soul Controller
11-02-2012, 10:58 AM
LOL@ DAT TILES, THATS THE SECOND FUNNY PIC OUT OF OF 6,260 POSTS

SOUL IS THE A RoD OF WUCORP

whatsa rod? these things?

doesnt add upto me, sorry bro.

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if8LsIqBurs

7c8uqkSlHIY

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-02-2012, 11:10 AM
i need to see those flying rods.

CEITEDMOFO
11-02-2012, 11:20 AM
whatsa rod? these things?

doesnt add upto me, sorry bro.



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Wooly Noggins
11-02-2012, 01:00 PM
i need to see those flying rods.



i have one right here in my lap

it needs to be loved right in order to fly though

Soul Controller
11-02-2012, 01:41 PM
Bloomberg Diverts Food, Generators from Devastated Staten Island to NYC Marathon

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Fresh off his "climate disruption"-driven endorsement of President Obama (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/01/Bloomberg-endorses-obama), New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has chosen to divert critical food supplies and power generators from desperate residents of Staten Island to Sunday's New York City Marathon. Gothamist reports (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/food_trucks_generators_set_up_for_s.php#photo-1):
[T]hose urging the city to halt the run believe that the thousands of Marathon volunteers could direct their efforts towards post-Sandy relief and cleanup, "and they also argue that the event will divert thousands of police from important hurricane-related duties." But despite petitions circulating, work started up again yesterday on the Marathon route.
A tipster, who wishes to remain anonymous, told us there were lots of workers in and out of the park today, who had "started before the storm and then came back starting yesterday." Trailers are lined up from around 71st to 66th Streets on Central Park West, a food truck was set up today, and "generators have been sitting there at least a week." The tents that were taken down prior to the storm have also been set back up, and there is a stage set up near 73rd Street.
Considering all the volunteer help and NYPD attention that's already being diverted to the Marathon, the added sight of generators and food being channeled to the event is probably going to strike some New Yorkers as a little misplaced—we're thinking of the ones who are currently lined up waiting for the National Guard to ration out MREs and bottles of water.
Staten Island residents are frantically calling for help, ABC News reported (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/11/were-going-to-die-staten-island-residents-plead-for-help-3-days-after-sandy/) on Thursday: The residents of Staten Island are pleading for help from elected officials, begging for gasoline, food and clothing three days after Sandy slammed the New York City borough.
“We’re going to die! We’re going to freeze! We got 90-year-old people!” Donna Solli told visiting officials. “You don’t understand. You gotta get your trucks down here on the corner now. It’s been three days!”
Staten Island was one of the hardest-hit communities in New York City. More than 80,000 residents are still without power. Many are homeless, and at least 19 people died on Staten Island because of the storm.
Staten Island Borough President Jim Molinaro (http://statenislandusa.com/molinaro.html) blasted Mayor Bloomberg's decision to divert needed supplies from Staten Island to this Sunday's New York City marathon: Molinaro urged New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg Wednesday to cancel Sunday’s New York City Marathon. The race’s staging area is on Staten Island and Molinaro said it would be “crazy, asinine,” to have the race after what has happened.
“My God. What we have here is terrible, a disaster,” Molinaro said Wednesday. “If they want to race, let them race with themselves. This is no time for a parade. A marathon is a parade. Now is the time to put your shoulder to the wheel. If they want to prepare for something, let them prepare for the election, not a marathon.”
“Do you realize how many police officers you need for a marathon?” he asked. “There are people looting stores on Midland Avenue. There is looting taking place in the homes on the South Shore that were destroyed. That is where we need the police.”
In New York City, apparently these days the Bloomberg show must go on -- even at the expense of those truly in need.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/01/Bloomberg-Diverts-Needed-Food-and-Generators-Away-From-Desperate-Staten-Island-to-NYC-Marathon

^^ also contains video

then the people responded..


Marathon Runners Form Protest Group To Spurn Starting Line And Volunteer On Staten Island Instead



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Penny Krakoff
[UPDATE BELOW] A Brooklyn woman scheduled to run in the NYC Marathon is gathering a group of runners to volunteer on hurricane-battered Staten Island (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/02/dispatch_from_staten_island.php) Sunday instead of running the race. Penny Krakoff, a social worker who lives in Crown Heights, is entered in the race, but tells us she can't participate in good conscience. Instead, she plans to user her bib to take the official bus transporting marathon runners to the starting line on Staten Island—and then spurn the race to spend the day volunteering.
Krakoff says she'll collect extra food and and clothing to take with her on the bus and distribute it on Staten Island. Her neighborhood was spared the brunt of Hurricane Sandy's wrath, but Krakoff is well aware of the devastation wrought on Staten Island (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/02/dispatch_from_staten_island.php) and elsewhere, and she's part of a growing number of New Yorkers who feel the Marathon should be postponed (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/should_the_marathon_be_cancelled_or.php). She writes:
I cannot start a 26.2 mile run in Staten Island—people are missing, stranded, in need of resources. Brooklyn and Queens have equal devastation. Parts of Manhattan are without electricity, water, major hospitals are closed. The Bronx too has its own challenges. Today I will volunteer at a city evacuation shelter. Sunday morning I will catch the marathon bus to Staten Island. Not planning to run. Plan to volunteer instead and gather resources (extra clothes, bottles of water, food from runners at the start). Let's not waste resources and attention on a foot race. Who is with me?
http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2012_10_generator.jpg
Generator for the marathon (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/food_trucks_generators_set_up_for_s.php) (Gothamist)
As of this morning, none of the other Marathon runners have joined Krakoff, but give it time—she only announced this last night at 11 p.m. The decision to go forward with the Marathon is quickly developing into a public relations nightmare for the Bloomberg administration, which has been generally praised for its initial handling of the hurricane preparations. Yesterday we reported (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/food_trucks_generators_set_up_for_s.php#photo-1) that the Marathon was using generators and volunteers to organize the finish line in Central Park, and we wondered if this was an appropriate use of resources in a city so recently devastated by a natural disaster. Today that's the cover of the New York Post (http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=NY_NYP&ref_pge=lst). Krakoff is still exploring the best way to volunteer on Staten Island on Sunday, and she's reached out to Borough President James Molinaro. We'll update as more Staten Island volunteering details become available, but the Borough President's website (http://statenislandusa.com/index.html) has a list of needed supplies and where to donate them. Yesterday, Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis asked volunteers (http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/staten_island_residents_suffer.html) to bring donations of clothing, blankets, food, towels, water, and pet food to Rab's Country Lanes at 1600 Hylan Blvd. in Dongan Hills until 4 p.m.
Another Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/BoycottThe2012NycMarathon) is organizing a boycott of the Marathon, and it will be interesting to see how many of those runners will join Krakoff or volunteer elsewhere.

Update 10:35 a.m.: Another group of Marathon runners has also been organizing independently of Krakoff's efforts. According to their Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/Nyc2012MarathonOfRelief/info):
Runners will show up at the starting line, but will break off en masse at different points of the city to deliver supplies to places hardest hit and without power. This will mean departing from the race, to head to various buildings, running up and down stairs delivering water and canned goods, etc. Runners will show up to the marathon, as scheduled. Runners who want to help should post the words, “I’M HERE TO HELP!” somewhere on their bodies.

http://gothamist.com/2012/11/02/marathon_runner_starts_protest_grou.php

Sky Blue Bally Kid
11-02-2012, 01:45 PM
Fixed...



CREEPY UNcLE CEiTED DOES IT AGAIN

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check two
11-02-2012, 02:02 PM
Gas being sold on Craigslist in NY for $15 a gallon, for people that don't want to wait in line for it?

CEITEDMOFO
11-02-2012, 02:04 PM
YES U CAN CALL ME UNCLE
s5DnESRMUs8

& I DO LIVE THE CREEPLIFE
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KERZO
11-02-2012, 02:26 PM
Spermificated

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food for thought
11-02-2012, 04:09 PM
Bloomberg Diverts Food, Generators from Devastated Staten Island to NYC Marathon

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Fresh off his "climate disruption"-driven endorsement of President Obama (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/01/Bloomberg-endorses-obama), New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has chosen to divert critical food supplies and power generators from desperate residents of Staten Island to Sunday's New York City Marathon. Gothamist reports (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/food_trucks_generators_set_up_for_s.php#photo-1):
[T]hose urging the city to halt the run believe that the thousands of Marathon volunteers could direct their efforts towards post-Sandy relief and cleanup, "and they also argue that the event will divert thousands of police from important hurricane-related duties." But despite petitions circulating, work started up again yesterday on the Marathon route.
A tipster, who wishes to remain anonymous, told us there were lots of workers in and out of the park today, who had "started before the storm and then came back starting yesterday." Trailers are lined up from around 71st to 66th Streets on Central Park West, a food truck was set up today, and "generators have been sitting there at least a week." The tents that were taken down prior to the storm have also been set back up, and there is a stage set up near 73rd Street.
Considering all the volunteer help and NYPD attention that's already being diverted to the Marathon, the added sight of generators and food being channeled to the event is probably going to strike some New Yorkers as a little misplaced—we're thinking of the ones who are currently lined up waiting for the National Guard to ration out MREs and bottles of water.
Staten Island residents are frantically calling for help, ABC News reported (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/11/were-going-to-die-staten-island-residents-plead-for-help-3-days-after-sandy/) on Thursday: The residents of Staten Island are pleading for help from elected officials, begging for gasoline, food and clothing three days after Sandy slammed the New York City borough.
“We’re going to die! We’re going to freeze! We got 90-year-old people!” Donna Solli told visiting officials. “You don’t understand. You gotta get your trucks down here on the corner now. It’s been three days!”
Staten Island was one of the hardest-hit communities in New York City. More than 80,000 residents are still without power. Many are homeless, and at least 19 people died on Staten Island because of the storm.
Staten Island Borough President Jim Molinaro (http://statenislandusa.com/molinaro.html) blasted Mayor Bloomberg's decision to divert needed supplies from Staten Island to this Sunday's New York City marathon: Molinaro urged New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg Wednesday to cancel Sunday’s New York City Marathon. The race’s staging area is on Staten Island and Molinaro said it would be “crazy, asinine,” to have the race after what has happened.
“My God. What we have here is terrible, a disaster,” Molinaro said Wednesday. “If they want to race, let them race with themselves. This is no time for a parade. A marathon is a parade. Now is the time to put your shoulder to the wheel. If they want to prepare for something, let them prepare for the election, not a marathon.”
“Do you realize how many police officers you need for a marathon?” he asked. “There are people looting stores on Midland Avenue. There is looting taking place in the homes on the South Shore that were destroyed. That is where we need the police.”
In New York City, apparently these days the Bloomberg show must go on -- even at the expense of those truly in need.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/01/Bloomberg-Diverts-Needed-Food-and-Generators-Away-From-Desperate-Staten-Island-to-NYC-Marathon

^^ also contains video

then the people responded..


Marathon Runners Form Protest Group To Spurn Starting Line And Volunteer On Staten Island Instead



http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/110212krakoff.jpg
Penny Krakoff
[UPDATE BELOW] A Brooklyn woman scheduled to run in the NYC Marathon is gathering a group of runners to volunteer on hurricane-battered Staten Island (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/02/dispatch_from_staten_island.php) Sunday instead of running the race. Penny Krakoff, a social worker who lives in Crown Heights, is entered in the race, but tells us she can't participate in good conscience. Instead, she plans to user her bib to take the official bus transporting marathon runners to the starting line on Staten Island—and then spurn the race to spend the day volunteering.
Krakoff says she'll collect extra food and and clothing to take with her on the bus and distribute it on Staten Island. Her neighborhood was spared the brunt of Hurricane Sandy's wrath, but Krakoff is well aware of the devastation wrought on Staten Island (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/02/dispatch_from_staten_island.php) and elsewhere, and she's part of a growing number of New Yorkers who feel the Marathon should be postponed (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/should_the_marathon_be_cancelled_or.php). She writes:
I cannot start a 26.2 mile run in Staten Island—people are missing, stranded, in need of resources. Brooklyn and Queens have equal devastation. Parts of Manhattan are without electricity, water, major hospitals are closed. The Bronx too has its own challenges. Today I will volunteer at a city evacuation shelter. Sunday morning I will catch the marathon bus to Staten Island. Not planning to run. Plan to volunteer instead and gather resources (extra clothes, bottles of water, food from runners at the start). Let's not waste resources and attention on a foot race. Who is with me?
http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2012_10_generator.jpg
Generator for the marathon (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/food_trucks_generators_set_up_for_s.php) (Gothamist)
As of this morning, none of the other Marathon runners have joined Krakoff, but give it time—she only announced this last night at 11 p.m. The decision to go forward with the Marathon is quickly developing into a public relations nightmare for the Bloomberg administration, which has been generally praised for its initial handling of the hurricane preparations. Yesterday we reported (http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/food_trucks_generators_set_up_for_s.php#photo-1) that the Marathon was using generators and volunteers to organize the finish line in Central Park, and we wondered if this was an appropriate use of resources in a city so recently devastated by a natural disaster. Today that's the cover of the New York Post (http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=NY_NYP&ref_pge=lst). Krakoff is still exploring the best way to volunteer on Staten Island on Sunday, and she's reached out to Borough President James Molinaro. We'll update as more Staten Island volunteering details become available, but the Borough President's website (http://statenislandusa.com/index.html) has a list of needed supplies and where to donate them. Yesterday, Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis asked volunteers (http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/staten_island_residents_suffer.html) to bring donations of clothing, blankets, food, towels, water, and pet food to Rab's Country Lanes at 1600 Hylan Blvd. in Dongan Hills until 4 p.m.
Another Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/BoycottThe2012NycMarathon) is organizing a boycott of the Marathon, and it will be interesting to see how many of those runners will join Krakoff or volunteer elsewhere.

Update 10:35 a.m.: Another group of Marathon runners has also been organizing independently of Krakoff's efforts. According to their Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/Nyc2012MarathonOfRelief/info):
Runners will show up at the starting line, but will break off en masse at different points of the city to deliver supplies to places hardest hit and without power. This will mean departing from the race, to head to various buildings, running up and down stairs delivering water and canned goods, etc. Runners will show up to the marathon, as scheduled. Runners who want to help should post the words, “I’M HERE TO HELP!” somewhere on their bodies.

http://gothamist.com/2012/11/02/marathon_runner_starts_protest_grou.php


they cancelled it

Soul Controller
11-04-2012, 10:12 AM
should be posted in nerd news.. but....

BuzzFeed (https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeed)

Fire powered cell phone chargers spotted near NYU in Downtown Manhattan.

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diggy
11-04-2012, 01:35 PM
Very good video this, discuss' and covers what you want to know,, plus some other stuff that many wouldnt have thought of,. ie food/water to the people trapped in the skyscrapers

Cet3Ww9GDWM

thanks .

JIGSAW45
11-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Spermificated

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Lmfao!

EAGLE EYE
11-04-2012, 01:59 PM
Dont feel sorry for the skyscraper people, they had the opportunity to evacuate

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EAGLE EYE
11-04-2012, 02:02 PM
Spermificated

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Soul Controller
11-05-2012, 06:23 AM
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BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
11-05-2012, 09:33 AM
HEAT why are you hanging out with Sea Hags?
Dont ignore the question.

food for thought
11-05-2012, 03:16 PM
Wintry storm headed to D.C. area, possibly bringing snow

A storm featuring strong winds and rain are forecast to follow in Superstorm Sandy’s path on Wednesday, threatening battered coastal towns and perhaps bringing the D.C. area this year’s first glimpse of snow.

National Weather Service meteorologist Jared Klein said the storm packs strong winds and rain, but is “more typical of what you could expect this time of year.”

“We’re not looking at heavy rainfall,” Mr. Klein said, “but we could get gusty winds out of the north and the chance for snow could be closer to the I-95 corridor than Sandy.”

The storm, defined by meteorologists as a nor’easter, is brewing off the North Carolina coast. A nor’easter gathers its strength from cold air blowing off the Atlantic Ocean.

The wintry mix that could hit the D.C. area would be the result of rain and show, Mr. Klein said. Residents likely won’t see more than an inch of rain, but winds could reach between 30 mph and 40 mph, with stronger winds hitting areas closer to the Chesapeake Bay.

The height of the storm should come between Wednesday night and Thursday morning, Mr. Klein said. As of Monday, no watches or warnings related to the storm had been issued by his office.

News of the storm comes one week after the East Coast was pummeled by the superstorm, a combination of Hurricane Sandy and a nor’easter. Coastal towns in New Jersey and New York City continue to struggle with the clean-up caused by Sandy. Electricity to parts of Lower Manhattan was only restored over the weekend, subway tunnels still require water to be pumped out, and the boardwalk and amusement park at the popular town of Seaside, N.J. was washed out to sea.

Mr. Klein said the areas of the United States hit hardest by Superstorm Sandy last week are likely to be hit hard by this nor’easter.

The D.C. area largely avoided the brunt of the superstorm, though thousands of residents lost power due to fallen trees and downed wires.

Dominion Virginia spokeswoman Le-Ha Anderson said the power company was “already in planning stages,” even though the forecast does not anticipate any significant impact on their operations.

At the peak of last week’s superstorm, about 200,000 customers in Northern Virginia were without power, Ms. Anderson said. Power was restored to the last customer Thursday night.

“Our crews are all being notified that we need people on standby, and depending on the storm we may add additional shifts,” Ms. Anderson said. “We’re making sure all the shifts are filled and keeping a close eye [on the weather].”

David Buck, spokesman for the Maryland State Highway Administration, said all of the state roads were open as of Monday and maintenance crews were already conducting conference calls in preparation for the storm.

Because rain is in the forecast, road crews won’t salt the roads ahead of the storm, Mr. Buck said.

He said his agency was still sending crews on Sunday to Garrett County, Md., to help with clean up from the superstorm. Unlike the coast, which was slammed with rain, the western side of Maryland was buried under three feet of wet snow.

“The problem was snow accumulation and so many trees were down, “Mr. Buck said. “It was just a very slow process to clear the trees, get wires out of the way then plow.”

Andrew Minick, an employee at Hardesty’s True Value hardware store in Grantsville, Md., said the store lost power last Monday and didn’t get it back until Friday evening.

“We had a generator, so we ran a couple lights, and the computer up front to ring people through,” Mr. Minick said. “But we didn’t print out receipts, they were hand written.”

News of another storm headed toward the town, however, didn’t phase the Grantsville resident. Mr. Minick said “everyone’s fairly used” to bad weather, including snow storms.

“It’s just a matter of the power companies frantically trying to get things up and running,” he said, adding that for the residents of Garrett County, “It’s just another day.”





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CEITEDMOFO
11-05-2012, 04:18 PM
Dont ignore the question.

THE CHICK I WAS WIT RICAN BROAD IS PRETTY SMANGABLe SHORT CHICK WIT FAT ASS N THIGHS LEGs
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THE OLDER LOOKIN ONE COLOMBIAN BROAD I CAN PROBABLY BANG BUT I DIDNT WANNA RUIN MY CHANCES WIT THE SHORT ONE AND HER OTHER FRIEND
SHES MY BOYS SIS AND HER GRILL PIECE IS NOT MY TYPE PROBABLY ANUSBLOOD TYPE, BUT SHE GOT GREEN EYES HIPS AND LONG LEGS
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/65419_4745689041418_922079258_n.jpg

check two
11-05-2012, 05:09 PM
^^
why do you and these broads all have the same glasses? are they a special discount in your area?

CEITEDMOFO
11-05-2012, 06:04 PM
I DOUBT SHE HAS 500 DOLLA POLO FRAMeS YOUNG CHECK TWO

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 04:22 AM
lol at 'teh greatest nation in the world' wanting the sufferers of sandy to vote, and not provide adequate help! lolol

dope video. news #4

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Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 07:22 AM
For shieted, there are no facts to your belief that nibiru is coming.. lol

i love it how all nibirus worshippers make stupid videos, through lack of their own knowledge of the solar system, be saying shit like.. hur hurrr i took a photo of nibiru,, its showing on nasas' satellites.. hur hurr durrr.. when if they did basic research, they would see the fallacies of their own beLIEfs

U-NHRL267Mg

CEITEDMOFO
11-08-2012, 09:42 AM
For shieted, there are no facts to your belief that nibiru is coming.. lol

i love it how all nibirus worshippers make stupid videos, through lack of their own knowledge of the solar system, be saying shit like.. hur hurrr i took a photo of nibiru,, its showing on nasas' satellites.. hur hurr durrr.. when if they did basic research, they would see the fallacies of their own beLIEfs

U-NHRL267Mg

LISTEN TO THIS TRACK
PHQZ2c1Iazs
AND BREAK DOWN THE HIDDEN MESSAGES, HOW NASA CROPS OUT NIBIRUS 7 PLANETS AND ITS OWN SUN(SINCE ITS A ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM THATS GONNA KNOCK US OUT OF OUR AXIS)
THAN TRY TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND FIND THE AUDIO THAT IS PLAYED ON THE OUTRO

EAGLE EYE
11-08-2012, 10:16 AM
THE OLDER LOOKIN ONE COLOMBIAN BROAD I CAN PROBABLY BANG BUT I DIDNT WANNA RUIN MY CHANCES WIT THE SHORT ONE AND HER OTHER FRIEND
SHES MY BOYS SIS AND HER GRILL PIECE IS NOT MY TYPE PROBABLY ANUSBLOOD TYPE, BUT SHE GOT GREEN EYES HIPS AND LONG LEGS
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/65419_4745689041418_922079258_n.jpg


Fucking Gross. She looks like Termanology if he gained weight and put on a wig & fishnets LOL.

CEITEDMOFO
11-08-2012, 10:30 AM
WHICH IS WHY I SAID HER GRILL PIECE IF NOT MY TYPE BUT IM SURE THE OLDER GODS WOULD SMAsH, SHES TALL WIT HIPS AND LONG LEGS SO A DRUNKEN ROBBY SMASHING ISNT TOO FAR OFF

EAGLE EYE
11-08-2012, 10:38 AM
http://static.djbooth.net/pics-artist/lilfame.jpg

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 11:04 AM
LISTEN TO THIS TRACK
PHQZ2c1Iazs
AND BREAK DOWN THE HIDDEN MESSAGES, HOW NASA CROPS OUT NIBIRUS 7 PLANETS AND ITS OWN SUN(SINCE ITS A ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM THATS GONNA KNOCK US OUT OF OUR AXIS)
THAN TRY TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND FIND THE AUDIO THAT IS PLAYED ON THE OUTRO


i will break down the track later...

i dont disagree that nasa edits/crops out items in the satellite feeds.

im asking.. if nibiru is a brown dwarf.. then.. as it entered the solarsystem., its magnetic pull would be fucking up(pulling) on the planets on the outer parts of our solar system.., amateur astronomers ( ME!!) would be able to see it.. or see teh disturbances it is causing.. do you know where about in our solar system it is supposed to be? where are the 7 planets.. why is everything in our solar system where its supposed to be? unless your saying im lying.. or countless other astronomers are lying?

see planets and especially brown dwarfs, have huge electro magnetic fields.. every planet in our solar system has a magnetic attachment to our sun.. so if another body.. that is a brown dwarf came into our neighbour hood, believe every planet would be showing signs of this..

when is the expected date?? cos i begin looking into nibiru in about 1998..

rumours where 2002! 2003! it would strike.. then 2007.. then lolol it was elenin.. now its happening in 2012?

what happens if it dont in 2012? then you will say 2015? 2022?

come on dude.. your 40 odd.. go on facts..

from the ancient cultures ive checked out.. they state a planet was destroyed (where the current asteroid belt is) that MAY have been the nibiru planet..

but we dont know.. and for reals.. get a telescope..(or use your 1% cash to hire online telescopes :D ) do the research yourself.. you can laugh at the funny videos that people make.. using nasas footage of giant X's in space.. lol yes they dont want u to know whats there, but those regions of space are fucking light years away..

so sir tile... where is nibiru.. how far from earth is it?

the only major issue coming from space.. is the comet that will be EVER so close to us.. next november.. it will be a once in a lifetime event...

EAGLE EYE
11-08-2012, 12:47 PM
lol @ being 40 and believing in Nibiru

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 01:08 PM
this is the kind of video sheited gets his nibiru info off of

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then when he see's shit like this



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he goes HUUURR HURRRRR i was right its nibiru.. no it was fucking TSYCHE in the oort cloud and before that it was NEMESIS.,, the list goes on and on...

only posted this, cos some anon on irc, posted the 1st video.,., and was like look nibiru! lololol shits a joke, an anon who is christian, and is looking forward to the rapture.. of course he believes in nibiru..

bunch of faggits

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
11-08-2012, 01:21 PM
I know that it is sentimental and sappy, but deep down inside, i still believe that every time soul controller and wackcloud have a conversation a retarded wu-tang angel gets its wings...*;

EAGLE EYE
11-08-2012, 01:39 PM
You seem to surround yourself with great minds soul

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 01:58 PM
lol, i hadnt spoken to that dude before! micheal lake is the name he goes by on irc.. i know he has his own web domains n shit..

but anyways... what can you do? you just gotta get them god believers, (who are on the right track, as they see the govts/corps are stealing the futures away, but still give their power to an external force, with no factual proof of the entities existence)
to focus on the physical, rather than their beliefs


btw.. came across this earlier.. made me lol so much

Still 'paranoid' after all these years


(CNN) -- Ever have the feeling you're being lied to by the news media, the authorities, the corporate world? That somebody -- or something -- is out to get you?
You're not alone.
Welcome to 21st-century America.
Look around. Trust is hitting historic lows. Just a third of Americans have a favorable view (http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2252/federal-state-local-government) of the federal government, a decline of 31% since 2002, according to the Pew Center for People and the Press. Gallup has Congress' approval rating is in the low 20s (http://www.gallup.com/poll/158372/congress-approval-rating-ahead-elections.aspx), after nearing single digits last summer. And the news media aren't much better off (http://www.people-press.org/2011/09/22/press-widely-criticized-but-trusted-more-than-other-institutions/).
"Negative opinions about the performance of news organizations now equal or surpass all-time highs on nine of 12 core measures the Pew Research Center has been tracking since 1985," a Pew report said.
Add in our wired, social media-addicted world, and rumors reign. You've heard them all, whether they involve the presidential candidates, global climate change or illegal immigration.
They're our little open secrets. They give us the sense that we're on to Them.
Opinion: What's really at stake in election 2012 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/04/opinion/avlon-vote-stakes/index.html)
"It's easier to be suspicious," says Geoffrey Vaughan, a political science professor at Assumption College in Worcester, Massachusetts. "There is something attractive in thinking that you know something, that you haven't bought into the mass public opinion."
That attitude is nothing new. In a famous 1964 essay, "The Paranoid Style in American Politics," (http://studyplace.ccnmtl.columbia.edu/files/courses/reserve/Hofstadter-1996-Paranoid-Style-American-Politics-1-to-40.pdf) historian Richard Hofstadter traced what he called "the paranoid style" through American history. What he found was that a fearful strain of mistrust flows through the blood of the republic, whether it was 18th-century religious leaders worried about the Illuminati, politicians suspicious of immigrants or McCarthyites convinced of Communist infiltration.
Hollywood has dined out on these feelings for years: "The Manchurian Candidate," "The Parallax View," "Wag the Dog," the TV series "The X-Files," even the James Coburn comedy "The President's Analyst" (http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/191875%7C0/The-President-s-Analyst.html) -- all are based on the idea that some kind of secret, malevolent operation is going on behind the curtain.
It's as American as apple pie -- filled with razor blades.
Sure, like the stories about those razor blade-tainted apples, there are sometimes bits of truth (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.asp) within. More often, however, the truth is overwhelmed by panic and hyperbole.
Which is a problem, because fear and mistrust have real-life implications, especially in an election year like this one, where it has seeped into the body politic like acid.
To 17% of Americans, President Obama is a Muslim -- and 65% of that group are "uncomfortable" (http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Little-Voter-Discomfort-with-Romney%E2%80%99s-Mormon-Religion.aspx) with that. It's not enough for many opponents to disagree with the president on the issues; he has been characterized as a socialist and even the Antichrist (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/a-movement-to-paint-obama-as-the-antichrist/).
Mitt Romney's had his own problems. During the Republican primaries, he struggled to attract evangelical voters (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/10/07/first-baptist-dallas-pastor-romney-member-of-cult-not-a-christian/) who considered his Mormonism a "cult." (It wasn't until mid-October that the Rev. Billy Graham's organization decided to remove that designation (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/billy-grahams-group-removes-mormon-cult-reference-from-website-after-romney-meeting/comment-page-78/) from its website.)
This election year, in fact, has been one for the books. Facts, apparently, don't matter anymore. Both campaigns have earned "pants-on-fire" ratings from the fact-checking site Politifact; both sides have blithely ignored them and moved forward. After the Romney campaign was called out for some falsehoods, pollster Neil Newhouse responded, "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers." (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/us/politics/fact-checkers-howl-but-both-sides-cling-to-false-ads.html?_r=0)
Worse are the actual laws on the books based on some kind of perceived threat. Oklahoma banned courts from considering Islam's Sharia law. (Oklahoma's law has been temporarily blocked (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/10/justice/oklahoma-sharia/index.html).) The Texas state Republican Party even created a platform opposing "critical thinking" in state schools (http://www.kvue.com/news/Texas-GOP-chair-explains-controversial-critical-thinking-platform-language-163615606.html), though a spokesperson was quick to point out that the platform regards "critical thinking" as another name for "outcome-based education" (which the platform criticizes as having "the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority").
Paranoia isn't on the fringe anymore, like it was in Hofstadter's day. It's now closer to the beating heart of the mainstream.
"The fringe has begun to blur with the base," says John Avlon, author of "Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America." (http://www.amazon.com/Wingnuts-Lunatic-Fringe-Hijacking-America/dp/B004I1JQAM) As the title of Avlon's book indicates, he's concerned about this. "That's the key dynamic, and that's the key danger."
The bogeymen of a new generation
Avlon, a former speechwriter for New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and a contributor to the Daily Beast and CNN (http://www.cnn.com/OPINION/avlon.commentaries/archive/), observes that one reason Hofstadter's essay remains valuable is that it shows that in "every generation, there are enthusiastic dupes who are getting sold the same old snake oil."
In Hofstadter's time, the ultra-right John Birch Society received attention for its claims of communist conspiracies and elitist cabals. In our time, says Avlon, conservative talk show hosts give voice to these claims. "These are dog-whistle echoes of very old arguments -- arguments that have been thoroughly discredited by history."


It's not just right-wingers who engage in this talk, he adds. During the George W. Bush administration, some commentators on the left were afflicted with what Avlon, borrowing a term from columnist Charles Krauthammer, calls "Bush Derangement Syndrome." Left-wing opponents of the president called for his impeachment and compared him to Hitler (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/04/01/wingnuts-excerpt-bush-derangement-syndrome.html).
Regardless of who sponsors them, these arguments keep following us. Almost 50 years ago, Hofstadter chronicled a handful of overlapping paranoid fears -- the belief in an elite conspiracy that wants to run the world, the concern that immigrants and members of other religions will displace "real" Americans, and the idea that a fifth column is working to bring down the United States from within.
Those fears continue to emerge today. It's no wonder there are calls to "take our country back," with the implication that "back" was a golden age before the world went to hell.
Yesterday's paranoid types feared elite groups such as the Illuminati and the Masons. Today's bogeymen include the members of the Rockefeller-founded Trilateral Commission (http://www.trilateral.org/) and the politicians and financiers who attend the monied confab at Bohemian Grove (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/bohemian-grove-where-the-rich-and-powerful-go-to-misbehave/2011/06/15/AGPV1sVH_blog.html) and are suspected of mapping out the "new world order." (http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/01/30/ronson.them/index.html)
Or consider immigration. In the 1850s, the nativist American Party (also known as the Know-Nothings) formed over fear of the new immigrants -- Irish and German -- coming to the United States, allegedly stealing jobs. Today, there's Arizona SB 1070, nicknamed the "show me your papers" law. Though parts of the law were shot down by the U.S. Supreme Court (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html), other states have used it as a model, and immigrant suspicion is routinely in play -- especially along the southern border. This despite studies that have shown that immigrants don't take jobs away from U.S. citizens. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-30/immigrants-don-t-take-jobs-away-from-americans-fed-study-finds.html)
Even suspicion of an internal coup remains. In the 1950s, we had the Red Scare; today there are people claiming the coming of Sharia law (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/10/justice/oklahoma-sharia/index.html); rumors about Agenda 21 (http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/), a United Nations development initiative that has inspired fears of world government; (http://whatisagenda21.net/) and the always reliable anti-Semitism, whether it concerns the "Zionist media," blame for 9/11 or a belief that Israel is pulling the strings of the U.S. government.


For Hofstadter, the "Paranoid Style" was an extension of two decades of work that promoted reason over emotion and critiqued America's fondness for an idealized, agrarian past, says his biographer, Elizabethtown College history professor David S. Brown. By the time he wrote the essay, the two-time Pulitzer Prize winner was convinced that all those pesky extremists were a thing of the past. But he was well aware that consensus was fragile.
As Derek Arnold, a Villanova communications professor, observes: "You can almost see him as pretty prescient."
'Leaving rationality behind'
It's certainly easy to fall under the spell of paranoia. Since the dawn of mankind, we have been clannish and tribal animals, wary of others, fused by emotional connections. In the modern world we create tribes beyond blood -- like sports fans or, well, political parties.
The danger is that many people don't develop the rationality to tamp down the emotion, says Dr. David Reiss (http://www.dmrdynamics.com/), a San Diego-based psychiatrist who studies personality dynamics.
"It's not so much that they're paranoid in a clinical sense, but if they feel their needs are going to be met -- or they're connecting with someone powerful -- they're basically leaving rationality behind," he says.
Then there's another deeply human element: the attraction of the story.
"If it's something that's interesting and grabs your attention, regardless of your background, it's appealing," says Villanova's Arnold. He mentions the theories about the Mayan calendar (http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/01/27/2012.maya.calendar.theories/index.html) predicting catastrophe. "Look at the end-of-the-world stories we've been getting this year."
Though much of the focus these days is on right-wing paranoia, both sides, as they get more extreme, look at their opposition as the enemy and hold on more tightly to their own beliefs, says Jonathan Haidt, a professor of moral psychology at NYU and the author of the recently published "The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion." (http://www.amazon.com/The-Righteous-Mind-Politics-Religion/dp/0307377903)
"Extremism on either side leads to very predictable patterns of thinking and usage of fact," he says. "Morality binds and blinds. As long as you're on a team, you'll have your own set of values and facts."


Extremists on both sides often take leaps beyond the logical. They indulge in hyperbole: for the left, the right is engaged in a "war on women"; the right has talked about the left waging a "war on religion." (After the massacre in Aurora, Colorado, Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert attributed the tragedy to "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/report-rep-louie-gohmert-links-colorado-shooting-attack-154444545.html).")
Why don't believers follow logic? Again, the mind's fascination with patterns and groupings is to blame, says Assumption's Vaughn: We use shortcuts to make decisions, often dictated by our biases.
Add to that our tribal instincts, and shades of gray are reduced to a black-and-white world.
"It's something you can understand," he says. Those who don't see things the same way, he continues, are the deluded ones.
Cashing in
Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, a Democrat and one of only two Muslims in Congress, has seen plenty of fear-mongering, whether it's accusations that up to 81 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus are communists or that Huma Abedin, a Hillary Clinton aide, has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/07/convoluted-connections-link-huma-abedin-muslim-brotherhood/55084/).
He believes the accusations are tied to both demagoguery and paranoia -- "there are people who have an appetite for conspiracy" -- but undergirding it is something even more elemental in politics: money.
"It is lucrative," he says. "As long as there is a financial payoff, and it also happens to feed their paranoia and thirst for conspiracy, it's going to keep going -- until the American people just totally reject it."
Avlon, the "Wingnuts" author, agrees.
"People who listen to partisan media don't appreciate that what they have taken to be a tribe of true believers is nothing more than a business plan," he says.
Indeed, there is good money in playing to your audience. the more the audience buys into it, the harder it is to dislodge their beliefs.


Writer Charles P. Pierce laid out the rules in his indispensable book "Idiot America" (http://www.amazon.com/Idiot-America-Stupidity-Became-Virtue/dp/0767926145): "1. Any theory is valid if it sells books, soaks up ratings or otherwise moves units. 2. Anything can be true if someone says it loudly enough. 3. Fact is that which enough people believe (and) Truth is determined by how fervently you believe it."
No wonder the so-called mainstream media has trust issues. In the search for ratings and Internet traffic, it gives voice to the same fearful hyperbole found elsewhere in society -- and often plays it for entertainment value. (Witness the rise of Donald Trump, political pundit and almost-candidate, whose regular proclamations headline the New York tabloids and are then repeated throughout cable news.) It's the classic case of preying on our insecurities, points out Ari Kohen, a political science professor at the University of Nebraska.
"Like those teases for the 10 o'clock news: 'What household product might be making you sick? Tune in at 10!' It's the same idea," he says.
Throw in the echo chamber of right- and left-wing websites, and these claims are even harder to escape, particularly in what's been described as "the post-truth era." (http://www.ralphkeyes.com/the-post-truth-era/)
"It's almost as if everybody's creating his or her own reality at this point," says John Carroll, a Boston University communications professor and regular media commentator. "They can essentially construct an information environment that's so self-reinforcing, and so exclusionary, that they don't really have to consider any evidence that contradicts what they already believe."
'We're in the danger zone'
American history has not been kind to the conspiracists. In general it has fought off their claims, laughed at their theories.
But there have been times when the suspicious have had a point. As the old saying goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
After all, the Soviet Union did infiltrate some U.S. agencies, and Julius Rosenberg really did deliver classified information (http://www.spymuseum.com/pages/agent-rosenberg-julius.html). The CIA was instrumental in a number of coups. The FBI's COINTELPRO (http://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro) program spied on domestic groups. Watergate revealed a tangle of Nixonian malfeasance. A handful of climate scientists did try to clamp down on dissent (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jul/07/climate-emails-question-answer). (Their opponents have also worked together (http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-06/battle-over-climate-change?single-page-view=true).) Finance industry workers did cover up bad loans and, more recently, fix the LIBOR rate.
All are "clear evidence," says Fordham University professor Bruce Andrews, who has taught courses on conspiracies and covert activity, "of actual organized groups doing things."
The dark currents can give a person pause.
"One of the reasons conspiracy theories have proliferated over the last half century is that they have so often been proven correct," says Assumption's Vaughan.
It may never hurt to have a healthy dose of skepticism. But, a willingness to accept -- or immerse oneself in -- mistrust has been shown to weaken civic structure in other cultures. Russia and some countries in the Middle East have suffered from a lack of transparency, along with great divides between the haves and have-nots. Those cultures also have long histories of conspiracy-mongering and little trust in their governments.


The United States was intended to be different.
"America's ability to question and, if necessary, change our government made such (conspiracy-minded) thoughts here against the grain," says Villanova's Arnold.
Despite our weakened faith in government and institutions, the country chugs along. But what of the future? "I wish I could be optimistic, but I really can't," says Reiss, the San Diego psychiatrist. "There's so much power behind making things destructive. It's really in the service and to the advantage of the politicians on both sides to keep people in a somewhat scared state."
"(Consensus) is not dead, but we're in the danger zone," says Avlon. "There are real costs to hyperpartisanship. Most importantly it becomes ultimately a threat to self-governance -- it's stopping us from being able to solve the serious problems we face."
"Righteous Mind" author Haidt, however, sees a reason for hope -- though not immediately.
We're stuck for probably the next five years, he says. After that, events could intercede. We could face economic collapse; we could have total victory by one party. But the most intriguing, he observes, is the passage of generations.
"We went from the Greatest Generation, which was the most civic-minded because they fought World War II together ... to the baby boomers, who were the worst at working together because their foundational experience was splitting apart to fight the left-right battle," says Haidt. "We'll soon be moving on to the millennial generation, which is marked by a reluctance to make moral judgments."
That has its own drawbacks, he adds, "but some tolerance and reluctance to judge might be just what we need in the 2020s."
Until then, however, there will be no golden age of understanding, no rebirth of trust. No, for now, we're stuck with the system we have, the noise it creates, and the voices in our heads.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/04/politics/paranoid-style-politics-hofstadter/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

lol at cnn with their 'paranoia' and propaganda.. lolol

so those who go on facts, are paranoid?? evenm if the facts show, that the major tv stations /print media/ radio are owned by 5 networks?

really thats paranoia?

i had a convo with a friend last week, she was saying im negative, that govts and corps are good, etc normal trivial shit.. so i asked her.. whats more negative.. ignorence, or making decisions factually.. she said making decisions factually.. so i retorted.. everything i state is on facts.. so how is that negative? she shut the fuck up then. hur hurrr

she works as a employment officer.. she replied.. im glad i dont have to see you at work,,

to which i replied.. yep. cos id do your head in. id bring print outs in on how the govt is cutting back on funding for training/support for those who want to work, they are cutting back on govt jobs. the corporations are cutting back on the jobs.. even tho they make record profits year on year.,. and you would tell me in negative.. when im telling you the truth.. lol

i guess ignorance is a better place to be in, when you are working like a slave., exploiting others

EAGLE EYE
11-08-2012, 02:04 PM
Shorten your posts

What the hell is wrong with you

CEITEDMOFO
11-08-2012, 02:43 PM
come on dude.. your 40 odd....

lol @ being 40 and believing in Nibiru

THANX FOR THINKING IM 40 ITS REALLY A COMPLIMENT FOR THE URBAN LEGENDS, I AM AN OLD SOUL :thumbup:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01368/sean_connery_1368037c.jpg
SMH@ ANON FOLLOWERS WHO COPIES AND PASTES ALL HIS FALSE INFORMATION JUST WANTS ME TO EXPLAIN TO HIM SO HE CAN COPY AND PASTE MY ANSWERS TO HIS ANON FORUMS

DONT ASK ME QUESTIONS AND google "Asteroid 'Nibiru' On Collision Course With Earth, According To NASA Whistleblowers" - It got taken down on multiple news websites.
HERES ANOTHER TALE FROM FELLOW SCIENTIST ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORIST AB-SOUL
m_71q5lVEjc

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 02:44 PM
my bad, thought you would enjoy the copypasta cnn paranoia spiel

SKAMPOE
11-08-2012, 02:47 PM
I DOUBT SHE HAS 500 DOLLA POLO FRAMeS YOUNG CHECK TWOhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9g52razaH1r3506ho1_500.jpg

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 03:07 PM
THANX FOR THINKING IM 40 ITS REALLY A COMPLIMENT FOR THE URBAN LEGENDS, I AM AN OLD SOUL :thumbup:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01368/sean_connery_1368037c.jpg
SMH@ ANON FOLLOWERS WHO COPIES AND PASTES ALL HIS FALSE INFORMATION JUST WANTS ME TO EXPLAIN TO HIM SO HE CAN COPY AND PASTE MY ANSWERS TO HIS ANON FORUMS

DONT ASK ME QUESTIONS AND google "Asteroid 'Nibiru' On Collision Course With Earth, According To NASA Whistleblowers" - It got taken down on multiple news websites.
HERES ANOTHER TALE FROM FELLOW SCIENTIST ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORIST AB-SOUL
m_71q5lVEjc


lol wtf. i dont copy n paste my posts, let alone be on an anon forum speaking of nibiru.. lolol

i dont google shit., everything i stated was from my memory from my research since 1995,

yes i know the whistle blower your on about.. it was just the one.. who made a youtube account.. cant recall name.. but he said he was stationed at the antartic,, and he took pics of 5 red dots? that formed a cross.. lolol
that was so long ago dude, that was supposed to be here in 2005?

lol at false information. where are your sourced links??

you should knwo i always provide sourced links, when i get factual.. so come with it bro


btw.. OLD SOUL i love this shit.. i love this joint.. blast it nowW!!

m7aNOP5amEU

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 06:37 AM
Hurricane Sandy blew the roof off an old story. Back in March, Mayor Michael Bloomberg baned food donations to homeless shelters because city officials couldn't inspect fat and salt content. Newly homeless New Yorkers are surely grateful. http://www.examiner.com/article/bloomberg-bans-food-donations-to-homeless-shelters-for-hurricane-sandy-victims

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/548906_241850989275918_1775584433_n.jpg

^^ only in america

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 08:36 AM
Bloomberg is banning the food "because the city can't properly assess salt, fat and fiber in donated food and thereby ensure starving people are getting the optimal levels of nutrition."


wtf?!

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 01:21 PM
yes, they arrested countless protestors who where part of food not bombs.. i show video

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this is the kinda shit that robbie, and dan ignore.. being patriotic americans and all..

no matter how evil/unjust/corrupt the system is.. they support it fully!

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 09:57 PM
that's what the US government has done to its own people, and all.

Soul Controller
11-17-2012, 01:10 PM
Parts of New York City Descending into Absolute Chaos

FEMA, the federal agency who’s responsible for responding to natural disasters and emergencies, apparently can’t figure out how to respond to anything. Over a week after Hurricane Sandy hit the East Coast, the agency is still having trouble providing basic emergency supplies and shelter to the affected area.
And now to add insult to injury, FEMA has actually had to shut down emergency relief shelters due to a snow storm that just hit the area.

Emergency Shelters that are open, are Death Traps... continued
http://offgridsurvival.com/nynycitylootingchaos/


Some Residents Worry About a FEMA Camp Being Set Up in Linden
http://woodbridge.patch.com/articles/some-residents-worry-about-a-fema-camp-set-up-in-linden

Bloomberg Strikes Again: NYC Bans Food Donations To The Homeless
Has The Mayor Totally Eaten Away At The Public's Desire To Do Good?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/19/bloomberg-strikes-again-nyc-bans-food-donations-to-the-homeless/


FEMA tells residents to stop giving out supplies after Hurricane Sandy — “Latest word from FEMA to Island: Stop”
http://enenews.com/strange-fema-stopping-people-helping-other-need-after-hurricane-sandy-great-stepped-resident

^^ thats in NJ ... sheited... whats the low down?



LOL to all that, we is civilised!

Longbongcilvaringz
11-17-2012, 01:28 PM
I'm trying to decide whether the internet has made paranoid conspiracy nuts more or less credible. I guess it probably hasn't changed much except they are all connected with each other now and can spam other internet users with they're rubbish. Idk.

Soul Controller
11-17-2012, 01:33 PM
or its easier to pass on sourced/factual information, and we can see the global fascist state emerging with all the regulations,laws that be passed to help speed everything up, the corporations are the gods, bow to them.

Soul Controller
11-17-2012, 01:34 PM
btw knowing about something doesnt make you paranoid.. it just informs you, but not knowing about something makes you paranoid (take wackcloud for example)

KERZO
11-17-2012, 02:48 PM
^

http://emotibot.net/pix/6270.jpg

Soul Controller
11-17-2012, 03:06 PM
home made for you brah

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZsSplpOpiK4/T3jEFxLqDoI/AAAAAAAAAEw/KpFLnWa9WPQ/s1600/531806_2893586907956_1508790171_32307939_199268705 3_n.jpg

Uncle Steezo
11-17-2012, 06:16 PM
meanwhile...
http://a0.vsoh.com/infenvmfbnngs.gif

EAGLE EYE
11-18-2012, 02:07 AM
meanwhile...
http://a0.vsoh.com/infenvmfbnngs.gif

hahahaha

Sky Blue Bally Kid
11-18-2012, 07:31 AM
^^^So that's what Brock's been up to during his hiatus

KERZO
11-18-2012, 02:26 PM
^ it's amazing what you can learn to do when you have cookie dough as a reward incentive!