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IronSheik
11-07-2012, 03:10 PM
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The corporate media have been given their orders to throw the focus back on to Iran. [New York Times openly admits mainstream media stories are scripted by the White House (http://www.trueactivist.com/new-york-times-openly-admits-mainstream-media-stories-are-scripted-by-the-white-house/)]



Iran vs. Israel: Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.


1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/06/israel-us-nuclear-non-proliferation) Israel refused.


2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1115650.html) Israel refused.


3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3778884,00.html) Israel refused.


4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (http://news.antiwar.com/2009/09/25/as-required-iran-informs-iaea-about-new-enrichment-site/) which Iran has signed.


5. Iran allows IAEA inspections (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090926/wl_afp/irannuclearpolitics)of all its facilities.


6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement of a planned underground (to avoid being bombed) enrichment facility. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.


7. The IAEA (http://news.antiwar.com/2009/02/22/iaea-iran-not-capable-of-making-nuclear-weapons/) and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies (http://www.newsweek.com/id/215529)are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.


8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona. (http://www.vanunu.com/uscampaign/photos.html)


9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble. (http://www.antiwar.com/wanniski/?articleid=2721)


10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.


11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons) Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question.


12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States. (http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2010/05/09/declassified-gao-report/)


13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons)


14: No less a source than the Jerusalem Post (http://ow.ly/e2lQ0) confirms that Israel has armed their German-supplied Dolphin submarines with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.


http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/enough-already-vanunu.jpg (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/IranvIsrael.php)


how else can they justify increasing their military spending...just like they did with Iraq which fuels companies like Halliburton & the people like Cheney's pockets who ran it

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Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
11-07-2012, 04:15 PM
joos r mean ;(

cj wisty
11-07-2012, 05:37 PM
all this iran/iraq/USA shit gets immensely confusing.

i need to read up more on this shit.

EAGLE EYE
11-07-2012, 05:43 PM
How will this affect the fate of Honey Boo Boo?

netscape check two
11-07-2012, 05:58 PM
The President of Iran has made Tubbs and Crockett proud.

Uncle Steezo
11-07-2012, 06:00 PM
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IronSheik
11-07-2012, 07:21 PM
all this iran/iraq/USA shit gets immensely confusing.

i need to read up more on this shit.

u can start here for the history: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/07/world/middleeast/iran-timeline.html#/#time5_210 | http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=ab3f495031fa

but basically this is all blowback caused by the US over oil after the UK set it off in '53 when they went crying to the US after Iran's Prime Minister (Mossadegh) nationalized the country's oil.....taking it away from them (Anglo-Persian Oil Company presently known as BP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Iranian_Oil_Company)) so together they (CIA & MI6 (http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=ab3f495031fa)) staged a coup (Operation AJAX (http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php)) that overthrew him and installed a monarch (Shah) as the leader into a Puppet Regime that they controlled for 25+ yrs which the people never wanted so it led to them revolting in '79 & its been hostile every since

Former US Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, in an address, acknowledged the coup's pivotal role in the troubled relationship and came closer to apologizing than any American official ever has before.

"The Eisenhower administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons," she said. "But the coup was clearly a setback for Iran's political development. And it is easy to see now why many Iranians continue to resent this intervention by America in their internal affairs."

The history spells out the calculations to which Dr. Albright referred in her speech. Britain, it says, initiated the plot in 1952. The Truman administration rejected it, but President Eisenhower approved it shortly after taking office in 1953, because of fears about oil and Communism.

theheavens
11-07-2012, 10:53 PM
I'm surprised how many nukes France has. they must've learned their lesson after what Germany did to them

EAGLE EYE
11-08-2012, 06:33 PM
Iranian jets fired on US drone in Gulf: Pentagon

http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26363:iranian-jets-fired-on-us-drone-in-gulf-pentagon&catid=4:iran-general&Itemid=26

TheFunkyDrummer
11-08-2012, 09:33 PM
I'm from Iran, but live in The Netherlands. I know people in Iran are very nice people and very friendly. The politics is just fucked up, but America and their propaganda make Iran seem like a country of terrorism and a country that wants to control the world. America is just scared, really. Look at the history, everytime there was a indirect threat against America they would start a war to get things straight or find another way.

America has to be mighty, world's numer one, the land that rules all. Fuck that shit. America themselves are building nuclear weapons but we don't hear shit about that in the press. How come? America owns the press, if they don't want shit to be written in Europe or other countries, it doesn't happen. USA should learn not to stick their nose in places where it doesn't belong.

America starts war for their own benefits, everything happening in countries such as Syria, Lebanon and Egypt makes them happy. Oil, money, greed, might. That's America for you.

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Iranian jets fired on US drone in Gulf: Pentagon

http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26363:iranian-jets-fired-on-us-drone-in-gulf-pentagon&catid=4:iran-general&Itemid=26


ok just so u know..

thats a troll news event,, anonymous started that story off.. i think it was anonymous florida,, just to get the sheeple excited..

just to repeat.. its a fake twitter story started by anonymous florida..


we are creating trolling lulz.. but i told u the truth ;/

EAGLE EYE
11-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Yea Im sure..

That's why the Military sites all have this front and center.

If it was fake they would hold a press conference and get it pulled in under a half hour.

Soul Controller
11-08-2012, 10:06 PM
lol dayum failedtrollisfail

Soul Controller
11-09-2012, 10:01 AM
Syrian terrorist execute Syrian troops (http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30255&sid=72b23bc7e3b0bcc2c7b9f5da7b0034cc)

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 01:11 AM
Bush was certain that Iraq had WMDs because it was the US that sold Iraq those WMDs, or Iraq could have got them from Isreal who gets their WMDs from the US. when nothing was found it was because Saddam had sold them on. the US were made to look like fools when nothing was found but they knew for certain that WMDs had been sold to Iraq, that's why the US killed Saddam. the US (Bush Senior) supplied Iraq (Saddam) with weapons before the first Gulf War when Iraq attacked Kuwait.


this business at the moment with Iran is just the same thing, Iran might have bought some weapons from Isreal, or even from the US, and now the US think they are targets, but Iran hasn't started any trouble for a long time and they don't get involved when other countries that wanna go to war. leave them alone.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 01:14 AM
War in Afganistan has been going on for over a decade. Bin Laden is long gone but the american public is still paying for that war and there's no end in sight. that's just one war the US is involved in. think about how that money could be better spent.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 01:25 AM
if Iran does have WMDs why does the US feel threatened by that? or is it Isreal that feels threatened so they're getting the US to do their dirty work?

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 02:00 AM
starting yet another war just doesn't make sense financially or morally.

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 05:36 AM
war has to happen with america, america is about to fall off the fiscal cliff, the paper apocalypse is about to happen.

major wars always occur when there is high depressions in finance, its the only way 'capitalism' (corporatism) can keep growing..

USA feels threatened due to IRAN not having a centralised bank... the globalists are counting how much money they are losing.. lol

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 05:43 AM
but if they start yet another war they can't finish it's only gonna cost them and i don't want the UK joining in.

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 05:56 AM
the uk is, is the corporation that owns the usa,. well no.. the crown corporation owns it all, but there based in the uk(as well as paris)

the pyschopaths dont care if it costs them money wise, or in lives.. they know money can be made out of thin air, then charged interest on... the globalists know their current system is on its final legs, either the people of the countries will revolt, due to the imposed austerity, that doesnt effect the ones who have committed the mass fraud/crimes (they always get rewarded)
or through war with syria and iran,

You have to stop thinking of countries as separate entities, they all work together, they give the illusion they are separate, but when you check out all the global think tanks, ie bilderbergers, CFR, etc, they dont careabout countries.. just the end goal is all they care about..

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 06:02 AM
what has been gained from the Afganistan war? and the Iraq war? poppies and oil?

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 06:15 AM
yes,. poppies, run the black ops, the drugs trade is what they are/where trying to control,. usa has always run the drugs world wide,.

it gives them teh black budget to built the epic amounts of underground bases it has,

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
11-10-2012, 06:20 AM
i always had the feeling the US government sold on the cocaine removed from Coca Cola. Coca Cola removes the cocaine and hands it over to the US government.

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 06:24 AM
google the iran contra affair,

some epic books came out during that time period,.

(cia gun running / drug running )
the kerry dude who was running for pres with bush jnr, was highly implicated..

it all got blamed on one soldier boy.,.lolol

Drunken Monk
11-10-2012, 10:41 AM
americans... u already dead

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
11-10-2012, 10:47 AM
man, i woke up, got high, and read through a soul controller/trixx conversation.

Mentally and emotionally taxing.

It was sad and hopeless, but at the same time, innocent and beautiful...

can this be life?

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
11-10-2012, 10:52 AM
americans... u already dead

When we lose everything, is it cool if we move in with you and your mother in your 2BR Cilvaringz-postered apartment?

Hopefully you've stockpiled enough shitty euro-themed knock-off wutang beats to sustain everybody until things turn around for us.

Shogah
11-10-2012, 11:19 AM
I hope iran gets the nuke, there will be no stability in the middle east unless iran gets nuclear weapons in its hands.

Shogah
11-10-2012, 11:22 AM
Its for our own concern,

there is a war going outside and no man is safe from


i9ZykEJuFrI

cj wisty
11-10-2012, 12:05 PM
what has been gained from the Afganistan war? and the Iraq war? poppies and oil?

the official reason for the peace keeping mission in afghan was to subdue the taliban and their drug trade child warriors terrorism etc.

thats th official reason given. u can argue whether there were ulterior motives or not.

EAGLE EYE
11-10-2012, 12:21 PM
lol why is it so hard for wutang armchair revolutionaries to hold both of the following thoughts in their head:


1) We are in these countries for our own special interests - although we will never admit it

2) Most of these countries harbor groups of Scumbags who have yet to join the human race. Ex. Militant, Religious fanatics who shoot 14yr old girls in the head for wanting an education.

netscape check two
11-10-2012, 01:15 PM
Its for our own concern,

there is a war going outside and no man is safe from


i9ZykEJuFrI

Is Putin poisoning anyone this weekend?

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 02:04 PM
man, i woke up, got high, and read through a soul controller/trixx conversation.

Mentally and emotionally taxing.

It was sad and hopeless, but at the same time, innocent and beautiful...

can this be life?


or is it just fantasy....

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 02:06 PM
lol why is it so hard for wutang armchair revolutionaries to hold both of the following thoughts in their head:


1) We are in these countries for our own special interests - although we will never admit it

2) Most of these countries harbor groups of Scumbags who have yet to join the human race. Ex. Militant, Religious fanatics who shoot 14yr old girls in the head for wanting an education.


number 1, im well aware of

but number 2 dont compare for shit, when the pres of america kills american children on holiday in pakistan..with drones (which your aware of but ignoring...)

so whats obama saying.. muslim children cant go holiday in their home lands?

also on the militant shit they are militant due to your thought number 1, but you dismiss again, the way teh usa has funded/trained these militants since the early 80's

the more the usa fucks about in that region, the more it will turn the people against them.. but thats what they want .....


whys it so hard for wu tang pop fans to see through the bullshit

EAGLE EYE
11-10-2012, 02:31 PM
Yea pretty sure these militant groups would still be around if the US ceased to exist

It would just be a different superpower, and you dweebs would still be whining and railing against 'em

EAGLE EYE
11-10-2012, 02:33 PM
but number 2 dont compare for shit, when the pres of america kills american children on holiday in pakistan..with drones (which your aware of but ignoring...)




Wrong. I'm well aware of it, amd even made a thread with a video showing the aftermath and shrapnel damage these little sandchildren receive from ya boy


http://moonbattery.com/obama-scary.jpg

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 02:42 PM
Wrong. I'm well aware of it, amd even made a thread with a video showing the aftermath and shrapnel damage these little sandchildren receive from ya boy


http://moonbattery.com/obama-scary.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533724_429088920478872_1290054268_n.jpg

i had been saving that for food for thought.,. but this obama face is perfect..

some oc from me

Yea pretty sure these militant groups would still be around if the US ceased to exist

It would just be a different superpower, and you dweebs would still be whining and railing against 'em

they didnt exist before the usa and its friends began training/recruiting/funding them. how can you be sure? who else would fund them as proxy soldiers in never ending conflicts??

im not whining, or rallying against them, im seeing this neutrally, unlike you... imagine if it was the other way round.,. what would be fair? would you want justice?

lol at saying rallying, so your saying regardless of the crimes commited.. we cant have a view? we should all agree that what america is doing is correct? even tho its going against international laws,, thats very civilised of you to say.. especially in conjunction with your 1, 2, thoughts,, saying that they have yet to join the human race.. lol
vileness vilified..

EAGLE EYE
11-10-2012, 02:55 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533724_429088920478872_1290054268_n.jpg


they didnt exist before the usa and its friends began training/recruiting/funding them. how can you be sure? who else would fund them as proxy soldiers in never ending conflicts??



Im not talking exclusively about groups like al-queda, taliban, or etc..

I'm just saying regardless of what point in history we want to look at - there will always be power hungry scum bags that form their movements/militias at a local level and will continue to be murked by the larger more established players.

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 02:55 PM
related -> from the west bank (iran are accused of supporting hamas, even tho hamas won democratically held elections, they are seen as terrorists by the west)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311420_517156661630016_728796844_n.jpg

Soul Controller
11-10-2012, 02:59 PM
Im not talking exclusively about groups like al-queda, taliban, or etc..

I'm just saying regardless of what point in history we want to look at - there will always be power hungry scum bags that form their movements/militias at a local level and will continue to be murked by the larger more established players.


as opposed to organized terrorism, funded by central banks and the corporate military industrial complex?



im not for either side, im on about the normal folk who live in iran, who are dying of starvation, due to un fare, unnecessary sanctions put on that country, all cos the dictator american installed was over thrown, then iran had democratic elections, where the people chose to put in power someone who wasnt willing to self the countries natural resources to evil fucks.

IrOnMaN
11-10-2012, 04:20 PM
Interesting.

Soul Controller
11-11-2012, 02:27 PM
lol why is it so hard for wutang armchair revolutionaries to hold both of the following thoughts in their head:


1) We are in these countries for our own special interests - although we will never admit it

2) Most of these countries harbor groups of Scumbags who have yet to join the human race. Ex. Militant, Religious fanatics who shoot 14yr old girls in the head for wanting an education.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/46249_300059920093818_1804844723_n.jpg

EAGLE EYE
11-11-2012, 02:34 PM
Share if you care

Soul Controller
11-11-2012, 02:37 PM
lucky you was 'privileged' (randomly born) into a family that was called the united states, and not in the middle east..

why should you care? not like your own government can kill you...

EAGLE EYE
11-11-2012, 02:55 PM
Must suck to be on the losing team in this simulation bruh

KERZO
11-11-2012, 03:12 PM
lucky you was 'privileged' (randomly born) into a family that was called the united states, and not in the middle east..

why should you care? not like your own government can kill you...

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30016264.jpg

EAGLE EYE
11-11-2012, 03:14 PM
Hahahaha

Soul Controller
11-11-2012, 03:17 PM
Must suck to be on the losing team in this simulation bruh


theres no teams, its just conscious experiencing itself subjectively.

we are all one, (non physically)

the losers are the ones who take this simulation seriously.

EAGLE EYE
11-11-2012, 03:21 PM
Righteous




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Soul Controller
11-11-2012, 03:32 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/22430_531771353517764_1261945761_n.jpg

deal with it

CEITEDMOFO
11-11-2012, 03:53 PM
Righteous




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Soul Controller
11-11-2012, 03:53 PM
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