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11-11-2012, 04:03 AM
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MANY LONG MOONZ SPENT IN FOXHOLES... LISTENING.. WAITING.. DYING.. IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM.. THE 25TH INFANTRY TUNNEL RATZ [ALSO KNOWN AS P.O.W: PACK OF WOLVEZ PILLARZ OF WISDOM, PUSHING ONWARDZ, PRODUCT OF WATER, PROJEKT ON WONDERZ]. WE WERE DEDICATED FOR OUR BRAVERY AND FEARED FOR OUR FEROCIOUSNESS.. GRIZZLY, MANTIS CLAW AND OLD SUN LANDED IN DA NANG SIMULTANEOUSLY, THOUGH THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF EACH OTHERS PRESENCE... THEY ALL FELT AT HOME.
EXPERTS IN THE BRINGING OF DEATH ALL THREE OF THEM WERE POSITIONED ON THE EVER CHANGING FRONT LINES. BLACK BOOTED GRUNTZ.. BEARING WITNESS TO LOST LIFE AND CONSTANT BATTLE THEY SOON BECAME HARDENED VETERENZ, EACH WITH HIS OWN SUPERSTITIONS. GRIZZLY NEVER SHOT HIS RIFLE WITHOUT THE NECKLACE OF N.V.A EARZ AROUND HIS NECK AND A CIGARETTE IN HIS MOUTH. HE WAS ALSO CALLED MENACE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS SURROUNDED BY MADNESS. MANTIS CLAW GAZED AT A BLACK AND WHITE PICTURE OF HIS PARENTS EVERY MOONLESS NIGHT AND ALWAYS HAD A BLOODY BAYONET AND SANGUINE HANDZ. THE OLD SUN WAS A SILENT MIND AND RARELY SPOKE, ONLY DURING THE MOST HEATED SITUATIONS WOULD HE UTTER WORDS. HE WAS A MASTER OF THE JUNGLE WHO KNEW THE FLORA WELL AND CONSISTENTLY HAD POTIONS FOR AILMENTS. GRIZZLY AND OLD SUN HAD A QUIET UNDERSTANDING OF THE TUNNELS AND WERE NORMALLY PARTNERED TO CLEAR THE LABYRINTHS. MANTIS CLAW WOULD BE PREPARING THE EXPLOSIVES TO SINK THE RAT HOLES WHEN HIS COMRADES RETURNED. IF THEY RETURNED. THE THOUGHT WHICH TRAVERSES EVERY GRUNTZ MIND EACH DAY...
THIS IS THEIR STORY.
EMPTY RIFLES FULL CANTEENS
MAXIMUS DA MANTIS
MENES THE PHARAOH
WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH PERSON WHO PRODUCED A TRACK/TRENCH FOR US OR CONTRIBUTED A VERSE/VEHICLE.. RESPEKT!
THE PRIME SITHESIZAH
STREAM FIRST HALF OF THE TAPE HERE
usually such releases are prepared 4 a long time!
listen now! "Let Em Knoq" - !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-11-2012, 05:13 AM
THIS... TRUTHFULLY HAS BEEN IN AN AMMUNITION FACTORY FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS... THERE were JUST NUMEROUS SETBACKZ ! THE TRENCHES WERE FLOODED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. AND COUNTLESS TRIPZ TO THE INFIRMARY. WE HIT THE EARTH LIKE RAIN FROM AN ASTEROID BELT, BUT NEVER FELL.
11-11-2012, 01:18 PM
Covers are sick...thanx for having me get on it. Repped
11-11-2012, 01:57 PM
I listened to the first half on the youtube. Very cohesive project. Great beats and imagery on the tracks so far. Looking forward to listening to the other half. Atomic submarine is fire shit"
11-11-2012, 02:36 PM
gonna give it some serious spins in the whip.
11-11-2012, 07:11 PM
Yo this project is mad dope all around raw truth peace and respekt fams
MaXiMus Da MaNtis
11-11-2012, 08:35 PM
Yes the jungle is the enemy , vivid lyrical imagery.....word up
11-12-2012, 03:42 AM
Got this! bout to ck it out yo! Looking flawless!
11-12-2012, 08:04 PM
Album is massive, dope concept. Honored to be a part of it. Eveything is fire too, mad respect to everyone involved. Sick rhymes and some of these beats got my jaw hangin.
11-13-2012, 11:15 PM
This is Dope and on Point I enjoyed the whole album
11-14-2012, 06:38 PM
shit is ill yall.....thanks for lettin me be apart of it.peace
11-14-2012, 11:47 PM
if yall remember the poster GZAjector. his pops was is a Nam vet and a Tunnel Rat.
i would like to dedicate my verse and if i can say so, that whole Tunnels of Death track to him and his pops.
regardless of your world views, respect your Service men and women, and the veterans who laid there lives on the line for you
11-20-2012, 02:32 PM
WORD UP... THIS WAS A DEADICATION AS MUCH AS IT WAS ANYTHING.. PEACE TO THE MASON FOR POINTING THAT OUT AND SAYING HIS P.E.A.C.E... THERE WERE TIMES WERE I WAS LITERALLY TROUBLED BY THE THINGS SAID AND BEING SAID ON THIS ALBUM! TO THE POINT SOME SKITZ HAD TO BE REMOVED.. SOME OF iIT JUST SEEMED TO REAL... A BLOOD SOAKED NOTE PAD.. THIS IS A MASSIVE ALBUM! I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOYED IT, AND WE MAY SEE A LONG LOST REVIEW UP IN THE BOOTH AGAIN SOME DAY...
I WANT TO SAY PEACE TO MAX FOR GOING THROUGH ALL THIS BECAUSE IT WAS TRIALZ AND TRIBULATIONS.. WE ARE THE PACK OF WOLVES..
MaXiMus Da MaNtis
11-26-2012, 09:54 PM
incase people are in doubt look aT all the blogs showin love and we have sevaral album reviews comming soon also peace to all that take the journey with us....
MaXiMus Da MaNtis
11-27-2012, 01:33 PM
Reviews Are Coming In i will post as they come
James Hester (http://www.facebook.com/james.hester.14)
Empty Rifles Full Canteens is a real gem. Maximus de Mantis and Menes the Pharaoh construct a rarity in hip-hop; The concept album. Empty Rifles Full Canteens delivers track for track consistent creative lyrics over warm and fresh beats. Individually each track from Empty Rifles Full Canteens is perfect. What holds the album back is the overall flow of the album track for track. Instead of telling the story of a Vietnam veteran it meanders from topic to topic blocking the listener from really digging deep into the theme.
From deep reflections of pain, to glorified violence, Empty Rifles Full Canteens covers it all. From start to finish the album stays fresh and keeps well away from being groove locked. There are several “Battle Songs” that excite. “Let Em Konq” is one example really capturing both the excitement and testosterone of combat. The truth is no matter how horrific war is running around with a rifle, kicking in doors, blowing shit up…. It’s cool, but it’s not cool, but it’s cool…. That duality is an important part of the overall experience and is prominently represented. The album really shines on tracks that are reflective. Menes enters a near trance on the track “The Standpoint” channeling a lost tormented spirit to remind us that it’s more than just stories forcing the listener to think about the real costs of war. His words are hard to shake climaxing with anger: Fuck Uncle Sam/ he the one who made your gun jam/ and took kids from their mothers hands/brought to early deaths/ rolled in shallow graves/ I still consider it money in exchange for slaves.
The musical background of Empty Rifles Full Canteens pleases. The beats are not only extremely well constructed but warm and sound amazing piped through a good system with deep bass. So many albums feel off. Technically right but almost too correct. Even though the release is .mp3 it’s texture is reminiscent of vinyl at times. With over half a dozen producers you would expect at least one track to seem out of place. All beats follow a dark grimy groove that keep them well meshed even though the styles are noticeably different. Listening to Empty Rifles Full Canteens makes me long for an instrumental version.
Concept albums can either tell a story or be based around a more general theme. Opening with the 21st Century Fox Theme seems to make the promise of an epic movie like experience. Tragically Empty Rifles Full Canteens follows a more general approach to theme causing a meandering clump of tracks pieced together seemingly at random. A good example of a general theme concept album is MF DOOM’s Mm...Food or Handsome Boy Modeling School’s White People; both albums have abstract concepts and work well with a loose arrangement of tracks. Empty Rifles Full Canteens should have followed a more structured path closer to Prince Paul’s A Prince Among Thieves. A Prince Among Thieves has clear character development and timeline. Empty Rifles Full Canteens didn’t need to follow a protagonist as strictly as Prince Paul’s effort but clearly showing before/during/after Vietnam would have added much more depth to the concept and shown development adding interest to the entire album. One example is the last track of Empty Rifles Full Canteens about an escape from a POW camp even though it’s eluded that many tracks before are reflective on experiences after the war. These glaring inconstancies detract from the experience as a whole and diminish what could have been a truly remarkable work.
Empty Rifles Full Canteens is a fitting tribute to those who served in Vietnam. Even if those who served don’t appreciate or understand the effort is still strong and from the heart. Vietnam changed America in many ways. Anyone close to a veteran that is still haunted by their past would agree. Many Vietnam veterans are fading from our lives and now is the time for a new generation to pay respect in their own way. Recently I lost my father in law to pancreatic cancer. We are still trying to prove exposure to Agent Orange was, at least, a contributing factor. I still remember him telling me about being spit on coming back from Vietnam while getting off a plane. It was hard to watch the pain and anger, the deep disconnect in his eyes. Empty Rifles Full Canteens is equally hard to face which will turn off many listeners but not everyone can deal with hard truths. If you are willing to face the horrors Empty Rifles Full Canteens will leave you enriched and somber.
as a album competing against todays market 8.8/10
11-27-2012, 03:20 PM
I really enjoyed this album it was mad heavy with the ill knowledge peace
MaXiMus Da MaNtis
11-27-2012, 08:59 PM
Another Review Is In With More Coming
Maximus Da Mantis's And Menes Tha Pharaoh's Empty Rifles, Full Canteens, is a retrospective view of the Vietnam War, cinematically told through raw, hard hitting beats and clever lyrics, that'll take you on a journey through the densest Vietnam jungles, to the darkest Viet Cong Cu Chi tunnels. Just from listening to the first few songs, it's clear that much talent and effort was put into this album. High production with great delivery brings out the deeper, darker themes, without making it feel like a cheap generic hip-hop gimmick. This album has a strong vintage sound to it, which is comprised mostly of slower, brooding type beats and old school movie samples. Empty Rifles, Full Canteens sets the tone perfectly for the type of stories told on each track, which I felt, literally paints the darkness, death, and horrors of war, on the walls of your mind. Dark lyrics tell a real story here, and Empty Rifles, Full Canteens definitely has its share of iconic, Vietnam era history in it. While there arenít many tonal shifts (story wise), there are a few light-hearted beats dropped here, and there. I think it would have been dope if more tracks on the album used samples from the most popular songs of the 1960s, like Paint It Black by Rolling Stones, Fortunate Son by Cleardance Clearwater Revival, and White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane, just to name a few; for the sake of being more authentic and immersive. Not to imply that this album lacks immersion (it really doesn't at all, in fact; it's one of its strong points). The samples that are used however, are used in a way that it doesnít interfere with the listening experience, by making the album seem random and unorganized. Overall, youíre getting a full, complete experience here, more than musically, but also interactively since production was utilized so well. When it's all said and done, Maximus Da Mantis brings you a hardcore underground hip-hop release not for the empty minded mainstream, and nowhere close to it, and if you've had limited exposure to Maximus Da Mantis and Menes Tha Pharaoh, then this album will definitely place them in your sights.
Based On A Score Consisting Of Beats , Lyrics , Creativity And Wow Factor I Rate This Album
Favorite Track NVA North Vietcong
11-28-2012, 10:45 PM
good reviews right there, i would tend to agree with some of the points made in both those ones posted
12-01-2012, 04:54 PM
12-05-2012, 11:54 PM
New Album review http://theundergroundhiphop.com/index.php?do=/article/6/album-review-empty-rifles-full-canteens-maximus-da-mantis/
12-12-2012, 01:01 PM
Truly one of the dopest album of the year... And for free... Peace gods
12-15-2012, 10:39 PM
da daAA DA DA DA DA DAAAA
NAO YOUR FEATURE PRESENTATION
so, THE INDUCTION is a supreme way to touchdown on DA NANG, one of my favorite cuts from the album, perfect choice, love the tit for tatness of the initial bar
"he grabbed the .45, I GRABBED THE STAINLESS"
wish you would've done moar with the back & forth! ALSO! 2:00! MENES HANDLES THE BREAKDOWN RIDICULOUSLY
"GOLDEN HAZE LIKE A FROZEN HAZE STILL TRAPPED IN THIS MAZE.. WATCHED TOO MANY GO, AN NAO IM WRAPPED UP IN THEY CHAINS.. TWO MORE WEEKS BUT I KNOW, ILL BE BACK AN SOME CHANGE.. ITS JUST THE BEGINNING, MENES DIDN'T EVEN NAME HIS GAUGEEEE" <<< One of my favorite moments of the album
annndddd ARMY HELMETS! ahhh so, our unit has been deployed to a haunted POW camp decaying in the outskirts of Hanoi, or PERHAPS a dream?? Call up Tarantino for this one yo
"still controlin ya mental matrix.. i lay bricks like EGYPTIAN MASONS... PRECISE INVASIONS, PYRAMID SPACESHIPS!" Max was born for this instro. "MENES DRAPED IN BLACK!", CLASSIC DROP IN BY MENES
when ATOMIC SUB dropped in the bass LEVELED MY SNOW CAPPED MOUNTAINS, I should've been a proper gent and mastered that better, my apologies.. where was i
OH FOOLS PARADISE! my wish was granted, PHARAOH MANTIS CHEMISTRY IN ITS PUREST FORM, one of my favorite cuts
or my tweeter's the mortar and my sub is the pestle, THE STANDPOINT IS ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ALBUM FOR ME, BEAUTIFULLY SCRIPTED BY THE PHARAOH QUILL.
AS ONE OF THE OTHER REVIEWS SAID I CAN IMAGINE A DRUNK UNCLE CRASHIN CIGARETTES INTO 40 OZ'S AND DROPPIN JEWELS. I COULD READ THIS OFF PAPER AND STILL ENJOY IT
VIETNAM DRAGON is the language of the mushroom spirits, NO ROSETTA STONE NEEDED. "fOREST TUNNELS BLACK WATER, FINGER TRAPS REMOVE AIR FROM THE CHEST!"
THEN LAUGHING OWL
"FULL MOON, YOUR POSSE IS NAO YOUR FUCKIN PLATOON! PRIESTS IN WHITE ROBES LAY IN DEAD WHITE ROWS, IT GROWS, LIKE THE UNDEAD CHURCH BENCHES IT ROSE"
FAVORITE MAX VERSE OF THE ALBUM IS ON THE SAME TRACK
"THE APPARATUS, LOST TREASURE MAPS AN LOADED GATS LETS HOLD THE STASH KID, WHAT WE FOPEVER LOST LIKE UNDERWATER.. ATLANTIS! SOUTH PAW SAINTS BREAK YOUR THOUGHTS INTO ATOMS GO ONNNN.. MASSIVE ENERGY FORM PROTONS, THESE ARE LOST SONGS DEEPER THAN YOUR MENTALS, HOLDIN METAL UNDER ROBES MADE FROM GOLDEN ROSE PETALS.. BATHIN, IN HOT TEA KETTLES, BLACK DUST SETTLES.. AS WE SHIFT IN THIS PERILOUS STREETS...." YOU GET THE POINT, I HAD NO INTENTION OF TRANSCRIBING THAT MUCH OF THE SCROLL, BUT THATS HAO ILL IT IS!
LOVIN BLOODY SUNSET, WILL BE SPINNING THIS VERY OFTEN, "MENES DESTINED FOR DIRT!"
AND FINALLY, THE TRACK IVE ALREADY SPUN A MILLION AND ONE TIMES, LONELY NIGHTS ON HIGH HILLS.. IN MY TOP 3 FAVS OF THE ALBUM
"A YOUNG MAN, BATTLIN HIS DEMONS!" SET THIS OFF SO PROPER
MENES' VERSE ON THIS TRACK IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE OF HIS ON ERFC
"WE FREEZIN! COLD STATUES, MARBLE CEILINGS!" MENES' IMAGERY ON THIS IS ATLANTIS ART GALLERYS
Ill have to spin this some moar for it to sink in completely, burning for automobile rotation as i type, further thoughts for future dayz >>>
Peace to everyone whom lent a water brush technique to this monstrous documentary of life in the trenches of Vietnam. BEST PROJECT OF 2012
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