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BRONZBODY
11-10-2005, 01:03 PM
i can tell that there are a lot of diffrent religions or studys on this forum,from christian,5 precenters etc,also a lot of religous leaders or whatnot...whut do you guys think about the fake leaders.......



i ask because my pastor is not what he claims to be.....and that is a man of god.


please state your opinions or rants.....



peace

Decipha Born
11-10-2005, 01:18 PM
If he not what he supposed to be then you need to let him know what he supposed to be.

LHX
11-10-2005, 01:26 PM
fake leaders are ones who have not finished learning yet

but
some of them are under the impression that they have learned everything they need to know

Aqueous Moon
11-10-2005, 01:46 PM
Organized religion is a business. Your pastor my have alterior motives.

If he is not in it for the money,

he is in it for the fame, or

he is in it for the women, or

he could be stroking his ego

It is quite disgusting to see a leader leading falsely.

Peace

Ayatollah Prolific
11-10-2005, 01:50 PM
probably 99 percent of leaders today are not leaders. Fact of life really.

Prince Rai
11-10-2005, 01:52 PM
a true leader knows he has much to learn still... Confucius

LHX
11-10-2005, 01:53 PM
i only became a leader when i stop trying to get my point across and decided to leave people alone

Prince Rai
11-10-2005, 01:59 PM
i only became a leader when i stop trying to get my point across and decided to leave people alone
i like that


i guess, not guess, admit that humbleness behavious is the ebst trait of a true leader..

we have to address what a leader leads to see what takes a true leader to be one.. ahemm

LHX
11-10-2005, 02:08 PM
i like that


i guess, not guess, admit that humbleness behavious is the ebst trait of a true leader..

we have to address what a leader leads to see what takes a true leader to be one.. ahemm
true

in one of the early chapters of the tao te ching it same something to the extent of:

he who regards his body last will be given the empire




from a confucius interpretation of the i ching:
if you are a bent log
the best thing to do is to go where a bent log is needed



there is a difference between wanting to be on this planet
and asking yourself the question of whether this planet needs you or not

this can be a difficult proposition to face
but
it opens the door to the question:
what does a person have to do to be needed here?

Prince Rai
11-10-2005, 02:19 PM
true indeed.

socrates did also say that... an unconsidered life is not worth living.. i always remember those words..

i guess life is a pursuit to find oneself.. and the world seeks to find that self that the world needs...

to opposing ends running towrads each other?

maybe..

but i guess.. the wisest thing to do... is to try and become a leader of oneself than a follower without a leader

if that makes sense

LHX
11-10-2005, 02:23 PM
yes i understand

Prince Rai
11-10-2005, 02:31 PM
anyways... hows KTL going??
havent been here for a while..

seems to be growing every minute

LHX
11-10-2005, 02:39 PM
i dont know

i only get to check in sometimes daily

there seem to be a good nucleus here tho - interesting points of view


ayatollah and aqueous both drop jewels

but wooly and some of those other folks dont drop by no more