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Aqueous Moon
02-06-2006, 04:11 PM
Peace

What the hell is black people celebrating for? Yeah, yeah...I get it learn our history and appreciate it, right?

But, Black people have already been acknowledging their PAST fucked up history for way too long.

And, I damn sure ain't about to celebrate the oppressing, depressing "history" of Blacks in America.

Whatever it is that they THINK we got right in our past, it ain't worth celebrating if our present fucked up condition is the result of it.

So, I will call this month appropriately - Black Misery Month.
Peace

Queen Of Poetry
02-06-2006, 04:12 PM
And why is it that we get the shortest month......and why is it that we only get one month? The other 11 months r what? Anglo Saxon?

Prince Shafala
02-06-2006, 04:15 PM
A Great And Important Month To Myself. My Family The People Of My Neighbourhood And My People...a Month Dedicated To When Our Freedom Was Won.....peace

Aqueous Moon
02-07-2006, 01:00 AM
A Great And Important Month To Myself. My Family The People Of My Neighbourhood And My People...a Month Dedicated To When Our Freedom Was Won.....peace

Peace

That's real nice...But, Black people ain't never had to win freedom from nobody, Sun.

That's what this whole trip was about. Freedom is within the mind of the Black man. Now, tell me...Who the hell can fuck wit THAT?

Nobody, not even the devil himself can prevent a Blackman from obtaining his freedom...So, what are we celebrating ?

thwak
02-07-2006, 01:04 AM
if your so offended by black history showing people how bad blacks got it why don't you think about asians?

asians had it bad too and most of that shit was covered up.

also history is history, everyone has horrible crap that goes on to them in history. jews in egypt is a big example, as well as american people in general with all the child labor that went on in the early 1900's.

and saying all black history month is about is showing how black people got it bad is ignorant. black history month shows that side yes, but it also shows powerful political leaders getting civil rights movements started and people who've advanced culture in general.

Aqueous Moon
02-07-2006, 01:09 AM
Fuck civil rights...I want true freedom...Can't nobody grant a black person they natural given rights to live in peace and prosperity...We wasting time concentrating on that.

thwak
02-07-2006, 01:19 AM
peace and freedom are two seperate entities. peace is a state of mind, while freedom is having the right to do whatever you want to by societies rules.

right now the black person is technically free in america, however cultural influences seem to portray every black person as a stereotype with most people following along like idiots. you can still achieve peace through this though by aknowledging that either A. it's gonna stay the same and I can learn how to deal with it, or B. teach people to be themselves and not follow any of pop cultures standards on what you "should" be and find peace in making a difference.

besides stereotypes are always gonna be around, it's just human nature to look at somebody and see that they're different to start up some prejudice, just be happy people don't slice off heads any more and use it as currency.

LHX
02-07-2006, 09:41 AM
freedom is having the right to do whatever you want to by societies rules.


'you are free to do what we tell you'

hahaaaaa
lame


in the year known as 2006
there is no freedom on planet earth among humans

except maybe for retarded people
and
people on their death beds

WARPATH
02-07-2006, 10:33 AM
Hey, i'm with thwak on this one, at least there is month for black history. Black History helps all people learn about black role models, and leaders in history. A lot of things, when I was growing up, I wouldn't have learned otherwise- they just don't teach that shit without black history month- it opens up the curriculum for teachers a bit, just like I siad in another thread-

Now we just need a native peoples history month, where we can learn about the great War Chief's that were whippin anglo ass for over a hundred years- and then we can into the genocide of nation, reservations we're natives were promised food and starved in the winter because the provisons the government provided was spoiled- rancid meat and shit- we can learn about the wounded knee massacre where the U.S government tested the earliest version of the gatling gun on unarmed women and children. But what i'm doing it's not native history month it's Black history month you all should be teaching me some shit.

100pr00f
02-07-2006, 10:35 AM
it aint about the slavery or killings ..its about every thing they did
the fight for freedom ..the things they have earnd/ made
yea its a lil about slavery but most of it is about what they did
how they created the lightbulb and what not

the month dont matter to me really
all 12 months are all the same to me
any color what ever
i go off to work every day come home work out..and hang with friends
i dont think of color when i look at some one
every one is just another person to me

peace



peace

100pr00f
02-07-2006, 10:38 AM
Hey, i'm with thwak on this one, at least there is month for black history. Black History helps all people learn about black role models, and leaders in history. A lot of things, when I was growing up, I wouldn't have learned otherwise- they just don't teach that shit without black history month- it opens up the curriculum for teachers a bit, just like I siad in another thread-

Now we just need a native peoples history month, where we can learn about the great War Chief's that were whippin anglo ass for over a hundred years- and then we can into the genocide of nation, reservations we're natives were promised food and starved in the winter because the provisons the government provided was spoiled- rancid meat and shit- we can learn about the wounded knee massacre where the U.S government tested the earliest version of the gatling gun on unarmed women and children. But what i'm doing it's not native history month it's Black history month you all should be teaching me some shit.



the native peeps do have a month
november

thanks giving ..

that month in elimetry school we were tougt about them

we made featherd hates
and shard food

but it dosnt go into it about how we took em out tho

WARPATH
02-07-2006, 11:57 AM
See this the kind of brain wash these guys are talking about- the ignorace in your post just proves it.


but it dosnt go into it about how we took em out tho


Do you fell superior over other men becuase your acestors were murderers? Are you proud of your terroristic heritage? Or did you just choose bad wording?

The thing that "took us out" was disease- your dirty ass drawers. There weren't any showers on the may flower. The impression the natives had on the pilgrims and early settlers was that these mother fuckers are dirty. They can float across a big ass ocean but they can't feed themselves? They're pitiful we ought help the out. But schools don't go on to teach how the pilgrims fucked the natives over the week after thanksgiving.

Then you got columbus and his crew before that, They didn't have any women on the nina, pinta, or santa maria. Just a bunch of pigs and sheep. From what I understand bestiality is accepted in some parts of europe even today, and you think homosexuals didn't exist back then? Think of it as the love boat without any showers.---then when columbus finally got here and seen some fine native ladies lying on the beach you think they were nice? do you think a woman would want to sleep with stink ass man on a boat for three months without a shower? How many native women do you think got raped?

Look i'm not trying to offend you i'm just making a point-

be careful of the words you choose because even a little to letter word like "we" can offend some one.

LHX
02-07-2006, 12:15 PM
and it also aint right to blame all the white europeans who were FORCED to be on those ships
and live in ridiculous conditions
and leave their homes to sail across a ridiculous ocean where most people didnt return to tell about it


i have a hard time identifying a group of people in history who WERE NOT victims


as far as i can tell
human history is a long legacy of one group tripping over another group tripping over another group

some group temporarily makes it to the top
so
they have the ability to order people on to the killing fields
but
there is no way the finger-pointing is as clear cut as we would like it to be



who are the good guys?

please identify the group of people in history that are allowed to escape blame?



and for the record
from my perspective
black history month is not much more than a pacifier to get people to shut up

so they will be easier to control

peace

100pr00f
02-07-2006, 12:58 PM
your acestors were murderers


lol my ancestors are ur ancestors


....
just becous im in the us. dosnt make my peeps are from here ..white peeps are the imigrents native peeps are the true home owners.....think befor u speak

ur were murderes too...what u cant go back father in time back to the castle ages....think

100pr00f
02-07-2006, 01:01 PM
were u from....u think thats ur homeland..aint noi one from the place they are in
back in the days peeps migrated in differnt eras

WARPATH
02-07-2006, 04:54 PM
Peace guys-

I know where i'm from but i'm not about to go into it here, i'd need whole thread for it to re-educate you on some of the bullshit they teach us in america's schools. Just let it be stated that natives were always here and i'm not gonna argue the point in this thread.

As for victims, I'd say yeah native americans were victims of disease, opression, and poverty, wich has been on going since the white man started colonizing. Not saying we were poor until we were moved on reservations and they lifestyle change gave us the mentality that we were are a poor nation. Assimlating to the white world in just a hundred years hasn't been easy, and just like someone stated earlier, there needs to be mentality of freedom before you can truly be free.

100 proof I was trying to state that you used the word WE like it was you and your people that conquered the natives and that's just no the case.

And in case you didn't know I am a native american or I probably woudln't have been offended by the comment.

100pr00f
02-07-2006, 05:15 PM
when i say we i mean we as that is what the word means..

......we...... dosnt spicify a race its all

as u would know if u read the other stuff i wrote..

i dont see color
i see peaple\\\

pluse this aint realy about native folk its about feb and black history\

WARPATH
02-07-2006, 05:30 PM
no doubt if it seems that I was trying to make you look like a racist I apologize, just that I took offense to it because in the context it was used-- we over the natives it sounded shady, that's all peace-

100pr00f
02-07-2006, 05:34 PM
its all good

ur my boy blue

TUCO
02-07-2006, 06:17 PM
i wish hispanics had a month.....we'd have the BEST parties evry single day
CHEA!

dif de la rev
02-07-2006, 07:07 PM
misery blues being black and trying to stay true. the afflictions of this deriliction about my disposition concerning a celebration of the situation of what's termed history disected and intercepted by the government for representation about two facing racism.

ok let's say with a tongue in cheek that blacks have been damn like floozies bamboozled like a hussie. the whole thing is to make blacks feel/think/act that they have earned some respect from the country. respect would be the couple of acres and a car with plots for my veg crops but wishing is futile when systematic oppressiobn against the minds of blacks is being ran like the crack on the fast track to where prisons and barracks hold our backs while we try to push off to cross the street for crossing the water that troubles our relief.

where's the mau mau the " i'm a man" the stokley's stoking the black power the cool cats not buying the political slack the story of my overcoming misery of defeats tricks lies and cheats. the soul sisters to heal the blisters from gripping fist and attending children like whisps of what could be. only pictures of what keeps blacks feeling lucky and white amerikkka happy.

black like the hell from the misery that befell and a month to short to tell though a year to forgo.

so i ramble . . . so talk to me.

Decipha Born
02-08-2006, 11:21 AM
Peace

If you don't know the history of your people, you are being manipulated/controlled by an outside force.

ergo

uncivilized.

One should teach ......................
BLACK history
BROWN history
YELLOW history
WHITE HISTORY
EVERYDAY.

PEACE

Aqueous Moon
02-08-2006, 12:16 PM
misery blues being black and trying to stay true. the afflictions of this deriliction about my disposition concerning a celebration of the situation of what's termed history disected and intercepted by the government for representation about two facing racism.

ok let's say with a tongue in cheek that blacks have been damn like floozies bamboozled like a hussie. the whole thing is to make blacks feel/think/act that they have earned some respect from the country. respect would be the couple of acres and a car with plots for my veg crops but wishing is futile when systematic oppressiobn against the minds of blacks is being ran like the crack on the fast track to where prisons and barracks hold our backs while we try to push off to cross the street for crossing the water that troubles our relief.

where's the mau mau the " i'm a man" the stokley's stoking the black power the cool cats not buying the political slack the story of my overcoming misery of defeats tricks lies and cheats. the soul sisters to heal the blisters from gripping fist and attending children like whisps of what could be. only pictures of what keeps blacks feeling lucky and white amerikkka happy.

black like the hell from the misery that befell and a month to short to tell though a year to forgo.

so i ramble . . . so talk to me.

Peace, What else is there to say?!

That was beautiful, 7. I agree 100%

Aqueous Moon
03-02-2006, 01:36 PM
First of all -- there is NO black history month to celebrate for our indigenous Black american race. Feburary is immigrant NEGRO History week that was extended into a full month... and we are NOT, I repeat -- we are NOT immigrant NEGRO blacks of european ancestry ... which is what Black history month is really about ... with a few of our indigneous Black american people thrown in to make it appear that this is a celebration of the history of our indigneous race in our own ancestral homelands.

Second ... You need to stop trying toprogram our indigenous Black american race ... because the immigrant Negro blacks of european ancestry don't give a cent about what you write with respect to their marriage habits, their birth rates in the USA ... and since they own the minority spots in the democratic and republican party (being cousins of the whites who rule our homelands under illegal colonial rule) at the expense of ALL the indigneous peoples of the USA ... they, the immigrant Negroes, are the ones taking over the inner cities and putting our people in prisons/jails with lifted fingerprints they give to the police. We are not a minority ... We are not in competition with any immigrant group as this USA is our ancestral homelands. We are an indigenous people with a divine, legal and civil rightto freely govern our own people in our own ancestral homelands. So why should we continue to waste time helping immigrant Negro blacks of european ancestry take over our country? Are we that lost or foolish?

We need to be about getting our own indigenous Black american historymonth in play ... and getting our own indigneous interim council together to work out the restorating of our ancestral homelands here in the USA so that we can freely govern our own people in our own ancestral homelands as called for 45 years ago under the UN Declaration on Granting Independence to Colonial Countries, et. al. Only the foolish would celebrate the history of immigrant NegroBlacks of european ancestry who are the cousins of those keeping us from being free in our own homelands ... as the europeans andNegroes and their white allies are working together to take over the entire world again!


Source: http://blackcommunity.blackvoices.aol.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=16992.4&nav=messages&webtag=ti-bvcaucus

Peace,
I did not write this...someone sent it to my homepage to share with me some more insight on this subject...to say the least, I was amazed at the information presented in the above write up. And I agree with it.

I wanted to post it here in case any of you were interested.
Peace

dif de la rev
03-02-2006, 02:19 PM
i hear what you are saying in that it tells the story of those who came over through slavery but not and highlights those who stood out on a level of national recognition but for the blacks born here and what entails there history we have nothing that 'celebrates' that. the contrast between the ones from afrika and those who were born in this country as to where history starts. for since the middle passage from afrika to amerikkka there is no link we can say for the ties were broken spiritually where we were re programmed to where the continent is where came from but then we could not go back and actually live for without that knowledge. if i read it wrong or sound confusing let me know.

peace.