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LHX
02-09-2006, 10:22 AM
if you subscribe to the yacub theory

does that ultimately take the white man off the hook for slavery and oppression?





("how could he know what the fuck he never knew" - meth)

Aqueous Moon
02-09-2006, 10:31 AM
What do you mean by "off the hook" ?

LHX
02-09-2006, 10:34 AM
good question

by off the hook

i mean
is it possible to understand and agree with the yacub theory
and claim to be a victim of oppression?

LORD NOSE
02-09-2006, 10:37 AM
if you subscribe to the yacub theory

does that ultimately take the white man off the hook for slavery and oppression?





("how could he know what the fuck he never knew" - meth)


in all honesty man - everyone is on the hook - fact - although we parade around with these fancy titles thinking we exempt from an ass whoopin

LHX
02-09-2006, 10:39 AM
in all honesty man - everyone is on the hook - fact - although we parade around with these fancy titles thinking we exempt from an ass whoopin

this would be the correct answer


this thread can be closed now

LORD NOSE
02-09-2006, 10:47 AM
but i'm one of the few who may understand this - there are millions who wanna fuck yall up something terrible

Aqueous Moon
02-09-2006, 10:50 AM
but i'm one of the few who may understand this - there are millions who wanna fuck yall up something terrible
lmao...damn

LHX
02-09-2006, 10:54 AM
but i'm one of the few who may understand this - there are millions who wanna fuck yall up something terrible

also true

LHX dont find much love on this planet

hated for being white
hated BY whites for being honest



sort of like the PLAGUE
or extreme weather

LORD NOSE
02-09-2006, 10:57 AM
let it all play itself out yo

and be you - your a truthful and understanding person, so you will always catch problems -

LHX
02-09-2006, 11:01 AM
let it all play itself out yo

and be you - your a truthful and understanding person, so you will always catch problems -

always is a long time

this show has to end sooner or later

LORD NOSE
02-09-2006, 11:26 AM
stop being truthful and understanding

be wicked and evil like me

LHX
02-09-2006, 11:32 AM
im too tired

still need to catch my breath

Soul Controller
02-09-2006, 11:47 AM
peace..
once the show ends.. will that be it?

LORD NOSE
02-09-2006, 12:06 PM
who knows man - everyones life is a show starting or ending at its own time -

until all men think the same about everything the same way, it'll never be over



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/LOUDBIRD/rahmanheadknot.jpg

Soul Controller
02-09-2006, 12:34 PM
oh wow
im pretty scared of a world that thinks and acts the same..

like some orwell movie..

its easier to deal with unique individuals than those of a 'hive' mentality

LHX
02-09-2006, 12:35 PM
and to think that this same shit is occurring in other places in this universe

and has occurred in the past
and will occur again

kinda makes you want to hit the fast-forward button and move on with things

LHX
02-09-2006, 12:38 PM
oh wow
im pretty scared of a world that thinks and acts the same..

like some orwell movie..

its easier to deal with unique individuals than those of a 'hive' mentality

its different than that

no cult

just understanding





although it carries many resemblances to a cult
thus
one of the obstacles between 'this' and 'that'

LORD NOSE
02-09-2006, 12:41 PM
most of our moves are a protest of death but we invite it to come closer faster at the same time -


and yeah if everyone was the same it would be worst - lookin from where we are now - if we were like that we wouldn't know any difference


but maby its not as bad as we think - a good diet - good thoughts and exercise can help us with our self worth and we can go on and live out our lives - have fun - laugh - have sex - and be good

LHX
02-09-2006, 12:48 PM
it is the cost of production

we produce in order to advance technology
advances in technology result in easier communication
easier communication presents more general awareness
but
the cost of production is increased pressure on the planet
increased toxicity

therefore
our production
results in our destruction


the closer we come to 'it'
the faster we move to try to control 'it'
in the process
we kill ourselves and find there is nothing to control




its like slapstick comedy
like you are in the waiting room for the doctor to tell you that you are dying
but
when you finally enter the doctors office to hear the bad news
its all confetti and a buffet fruit and salad bar with beautiful people


so
whats up?

LORD NOSE
02-09-2006, 01:29 PM
yup - when i was younger i used to think that one day i'll open up my door and everybody will be behind it screaming 'SYKE' this world ain't real we was all playing with you - but it never happened - and i don't believe it will

LHX
02-09-2006, 01:33 PM
but it never happened - and i don't believe it will

it wont actually go down that way
but
the feeling is similar



taking something seriously only to find out that it isnt as serious as you thought
or
finding out that you have options that you never knew existed

Aqueous Moon
02-10-2006, 10:34 AM
Yeah, it's like finding out you in heaven and not being happy about it.

or like finding out you in hell and being happy about it.

LORD NOSE
02-10-2006, 10:46 AM
some days are better than others

dif de la rev
02-10-2006, 09:58 PM
by subscribing and knowing what know, does that mean every white male is held accountable for oppression or just the ones who know why oppressing?

is it a subconscious energy or unconscious potential that makes the whirte male destructive to oppress and if white males oppress each other then where does that put their conscious as to their mystery god versus the true god (some internal fight as to which way is best for survival or something?).

LHX
02-10-2006, 10:42 PM
i would say that no oppressor knows why he oppresses
(oppression is rooted in ignorance)

using your terms (dif de la rev)
i would propose that the destructive nature of oppression is caused by restrained or obstructed energy
which i guess you could call 'potential'

the best route for survival is to seek knowledge
knowledge crushes the mystery god

but
most men are caught in the vortex of
running from (imaginary) fears
and chasing (imaginary) desire

and during the course of this chase
they oppress (in ignorance)

Aqueous Moon
02-10-2006, 11:48 PM
some days are better than others

Some days I want to kill my mother...for real

yep, like eminem

MoT
04-14-2006, 05:43 AM
^^ never do so if you want at least some suffering to stop.. yea well eminem is a mentally disturbed/challenged person and suffers from extra exibitionism so i doubt you are like eminem


LHX ... man great thoughts... but i'd rather hit the rewind button just to see what was real n what flukes we argue about a couple thousand years later so i could just bump that seen it all from screwball or maybe you could fast forward so fast you'll END up at the Beginning

i would bet my money on the vortex of fear because desire is IMO more controlable than fear (its something one has to face in order to defeat it or change something about it) but you can always stop and let the desire run away and think of a easier one to achieve..

Aqua Luna
04-14-2006, 04:15 PM
ha...you don't know my mother.

and I didn't know eminem was mental...thanks for the heads up

galt john galt
04-14-2006, 07:31 PM
yacub oppresses life and represses truth. and his product doesn't know the comings or goings of either.

lhx , could they be going after desire which is life and fear truth coming at them?

MoT
04-15-2006, 03:34 AM
ha...you don't know my mother.

and I didn't know eminem was mental...thanks for the heads up

true i dont but u know killing someone who gave birth to you seems weird


with eminem tho i dont really KNOW if he is mental or not.. but from his music, both beats and rhymes.. it doesnt sound very sane at times

LHX
04-15-2006, 08:48 AM
yacub oppresses life and represses truth. and his product doesn't know the comings or goings of either.

this is a really good summary of the situation


lhx , could they be going after desire which is life and fear truth coming at them?
another good observation

and it shows just how bizarre the situation is

they are chasing something
but
since they dont know what it looks like
they are scared of it when they actually see it

thats fucked up

LHX
04-15-2006, 08:50 AM
true i dont but u know killing someone who gave birth to you seems weird


with eminem tho i dont really KNOW if he is mental or not.. but from his music, both beats and rhymes.. it doesnt sound very sane at times

at a certain point
it is not difficult to separate yourself from something that gave birth to you



it is important to understand that you are of the universe and the earth first

whomever specifically gave birth to you is of little importance

MoT
04-17-2006, 04:39 AM
at a certain point
it is not difficult to separate yourself from something that gave birth to you



it is important to understand that you are of the universe and the earth first

whomever specifically gave birth to you is of little importance

for some it is of little importance...

at one point everyone spearates oneself from those who gave him/her birth

4 ever

but hasting the process by one's will just because the image of their perfection (and hope 4 the future) didnt come out quite right... i know just from the respect standpoint that(and where could i learn to respect) this is something i would not be able to live with afterwards

LHX
04-17-2006, 07:23 AM
i know just from the respect standpoint that(and where could i learn to respect) this is something i would not be able to live with afterwards

there is a fine line between respect
and
upholding unreasonable obligations


remember
peace is a ruthless process


would you want your child to hold himself back out of some feeling of 'respect' for you?

MoT
04-17-2006, 08:05 AM
there is a fine line between respect
and
upholding unreasonable obligations


remember
peace is a ruthless process


would you want your child to hold himself back out of some feeling of 'respect' for you?

wow.. now thats a question! i wouldn't want that but a case for killing a parent would be reasonable only if it was a matter of them tryin to kill me.. or ending their physical/mental tornment... i know if both sides are mentaly fit they can agree on things and dont have to put up with often appearing "unreasonable obligations" - which is a problem of course

i will try to keep that in mind

LORD NOSE
06-07-2008, 02:58 AM
does that ultimately take the white man off the hook for slavery and oppression?


scape goat
not if he was made from the fire for the fire
and still...everyone is on the hook - fire doesn't discriminate

Black Man
06-07-2008, 06:31 AM
if you subscribe to the yacub theory

does that ultimately take the white man off the hook for slavery and oppression?





("how could he know what the fuck he never knew" - meth)

Before you can begin to answer this question you must first know and understand the science of yacub.

Black Man
06-07-2008, 06:35 AM
in all honesty man - everyone is on the hook - fact - although we parade around with these fancy titles thinking we exempt from an ass whoopin

I disagree.

Black Man
06-07-2008, 06:36 AM
but i'm one of the few who may understand this - there are millions who wanna fuck yall up something terrible

And there's billions that love them more than their mamma, and will fuck you up for thinking about fucking them up.

Black Man
06-07-2008, 06:47 AM
who knows man - everyones life is a show starting or ending at its own time -

until all men think the same about everything the same way, it'll never be over



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/LOUDBIRD/rahmanheadknot.jpg

Trying to get everyone to think the same....not good. That's why there's so many problems now, because people wanted other people to think like them.

Thinking the same isn't the answer, it's a problem.

Who is the original man? Original in thought and action.

LORD NOSE
06-07-2008, 06:49 AM
And there's billions that love them more than their mamma, and will fuck you up for thinking about fucking them up.


and those billions will go in the fire with them and will be put there by less than 4000 - that was the purpose of me saying that we all on the hook - and some think they exempt - but of cause there are exceptions

LORD NOSE
06-07-2008, 07:01 AM
Trying to get everyone to think the same....not good.

yeah i know - my point was that if you robotize everyone everywhere to do the same thing and think the same way, there will be no problem because no one would have any problem with anyone because they would all be the same

Black Man
06-07-2008, 07:50 AM
[quote=LHX;286778]it is the cost of production

we produce in order to advance technology

WE DON'T PRODUCE TO ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY. PRODUCTION IS A PART OF CAPITALISM AND CAPITALISM DIDN'T ALWAYS EXIST. BEING A COUNTRY OF PRODUCERS AND CONSUMERS, THAT COUNTRY DIDN'T ALWAYS EXIST. THIS IS WHY IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT YACUB AND HOW IT APPLIES TO OTHER FACETS OF LIFE, THEN YOU HAVE TO FIRST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT WAS THE EARLY 1900'S THAT AMERICA BEGAN TO TURN INTO A TRUE CAPITALIST NATION......A NATION OF CONSUMERS.

advances in technology result in easier communication
easier communication presents more general awareness
but
the cost of production is increased pressure on the planet
increased toxicity

TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT EQUAL INCREASED TOXICITY. IT'S THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT IS BEING USED THAT PRODUCES NEGATIVE RESULTS. WE ARE SEEING THE RESULTS OF SPECIFIC ACTIONS FROM A SPECIFIC MIND SET.

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Black Man
06-07-2008, 07:54 AM
by subscribing and knowing what know, does that mean every white male is held accountable for oppression or just the ones who know why oppressing?

is it a subconscious energy or unconscious potential that makes the whirte male destructive to oppress and if white males oppress each other then where does that put their conscious as to their mystery god versus the true god (some internal fight as to which way is best for survival or something?).

IF YOU'RE ADDING ON TO THE ENERGY OF OPPRESSION DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY THEN YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTALBE. THERE'S MANY WAYS THAT PEOPLE KEEP THIS "OPPRESSION" THING GOING. SOME ARE MORE AWARE THAN OTHERS. REGARDLESS TO THE LEVEL OF AWARENESS, PEOPLE WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE. THEY WILL BE BLAMED.

Black Man
06-07-2008, 07:58 AM
i would say that no oppressor knows why he oppresses
(oppression is rooted in ignorance)

OPPRESSION IS NOT ROOTED IN IGNORANCE. I SAY AND THE OPPRESSOR SAYS THEY KNOW WHY AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

using your terms (dif de la rev)
i would propose that the destructive nature of oppression is caused by restrained or obstructed energy
which i guess you could call 'potential'

the best route for survival is to seek knowledge
knowledge crushes the mystery god

KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT CRUSHES THE MYSTERY GOD?

but
most men are caught in the vortex of
running from (imaginary) fears
and chasing (imaginary) desire

and during the course of this chase
they oppress (in ignorance)
.

Black Man
06-07-2008, 08:01 AM
yacub oppresses life and represses truth. and his product doesn't know the comings or goings of either.

lhx , could they be going after desire which is life and fear truth coming at them?

HOW DID YACUB OPPRESS LIFE AND REPRESS TRUTH?

Black Man
06-07-2008, 08:02 AM
at a certain point
it is not difficult to separate yourself from something that gave birth to you



it is important to understand that you are of the universe and the earth first

whomever specifically gave birth to you is of little importance

THAT PERSON IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!

Black Man
06-07-2008, 08:06 AM
yeah i know - my point was that if you robotize everyone everywhere to do the same thing and think the same way, there will be no problem because no one would have any problem with anyone because they would all be the same

I saw that in a later post you wrote.