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Aqueous Moon
02-23-2006, 02:50 PM
The African Family Structure
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It would be a negligent oversight to examine the Afrikan family structure without making reference to polygyny (the practice of several women joining unto one man), which incidentally was first introduced into ancient societies by the Afrikan Woman. In the old days of Afrika's glory the woman considered herself nothing without a man to defend her and a man was nothing without a woman and a family to defend. At this time polygyny was generally practiced throughout most of the world, a result of the Black Man's cultural influence all around the globe. Polygyny or polygamy, as some call it, was adopted by Black Women to ensure every woman in the society having access to a man, whose primary role was protector, guide, provider and keeper of the realm.

As already stated, in these ancient Afrikan societies women were held in the highest honor and respect, the female entity was revered and oft-times worshipped as the Great Mother, Nourisher and Sustainer of life, the source of all terrestrial inspiration and the maintainer of revitalized life. This was the usual way of life in those wonderful days when the Black Man dominated the earth, widespread love, respect and affection was consistently demonstrated by the Black Man to the Black Woman. He delighted in adorning her with gold and silver often rhapsodizing to her in the most beautiful language (perhaps this is why sisters still love to hear a Black Man lay down some good "rap" even unto this day), the norm in ancient Black Society, where each gender clearly accepted and dignified their distinguished roles in the community with mutual affection and respect for one another. In those days of amorous joy Black Women delighted in dancing and singing praises to their men especially after they had returned from the battle (usually in defense of the homeland) or the hunt.

The family practices of the Black Man's High Culture System began to deteriorate in certain parts of the world namely Europe and northern Asia when the Caucasian appeared on the scene. At first white Europeans with no real culture of their own, other than the insatiable love of warfare, tried to emulate the Afrikan in the practice of polygyny although there was no general change in his attitude regarding the treatment of the Caucasian woman. With the coming of syphilis and its wide-spread infections among the women of his race, which caused the largest percentage of the female population to die out like flies, the nomadic Caucasians leaving their bodies where they fell, the shortage in the already limited female population was intensified so the European shortly returned to monogamy, homosexuality and the wide-spread practice of polyandry - one woman, many men. In the European custom of polyandry one woman, be she mother, daughter, sister and in some cases a queen, became the wife of as many as ten or more men, included in this group might be her father, her son, her brother, her cousin, her uncle as well as her husband and on certain occasions, at the whim of the family head man she was made available for the pleasure of all the men in the community. The ancient Europeans said their rationale for doing this was an attempt to minimize the constant fighting and bloodletting of rivals over the limited amount of women available. It was out of this confusion that the patriarchal line of descent and the modern European system of monogamy was born. As a result of eventual European world domination many Black People and other peoples of color have been forced to adopt monogamy and in same cases rape and homosexuality as a cultural frame of reference. Subliminally this is one of the manifold reasons for the many traumatic Black Male-Female relationships in the United States and other parts of the world today. But in spite of this mental conditioning we as a people must join unto our own and through the proper light of understanding correctly put into practice those systems that will prosper and sustain us, insuring Our survival and longevity on the earth.

At this point a word of caution is in order. The above statements of historical fact - and it is an irrefutable fact that the practice of polygyny was the norm for Afrikans before the coming of the European - were not intended to denigrate or condemn those families where the Black Man and Woman mutually prefer a monogamous relationship, rather they have been cited to present the cultural roots, validity and obvious advantages of polygyny for Black families who wish to practice it today. Of course it must be clearly understood, especially by the brothers that this is not something you just up and jump into without careful thought and preparation, for there are great responsibilities involved. But those Black Men and Women who are serious and adequately prepare themselves through consultation, study and self discipline applying the practice of polygyny on the high spiritual plane of which it was originally developed will eventually become some of the most respected and powerful men and women in the world. It is believed by some Black Scholars who have carefully and painstakingly studied the societal structures of Afrikan People that the correct application of this system could be a mighty key factor in the economic, spiritual, mental and physical survival of Blacks wherever we are in the world today.

One of the main reasons why polygyny was developed and practiced by the ancients was to enhance the economic power of the family, community and nation. Wherein a brother might achieve moderately well in a basic monoganous structure, he could maximize his efforts a hundred fold with the right combination of sister-wives. Bear in mind this idea was first introduced into the community by the women of the society. The biblical story of Jacob, the reputed father of the Israelite nation, mentions his four wives and how the first two brought the latter two into the family. In this present Euro-centric dominated society which is adverse to our very nature, it is somewhat difficult for us to practice those traditions which are more in tuned with our cosmic vibrations. Therefore we must adopt the wisdom of the Kawaida doctrine which advises us to practice "tradition and reason" as we strive to create a new society a better condition and a better world. There is much truth in the old adage "Where there is a will, there is a way."

As always it is imperative for us as a people to be constantly advancing in knowledge and understanding ever cultivating the habit of doing those things which contribute to our growth. Above all we must not allow ourselves to become stagnant or we will be like the sitting waters that provide a habitation and breeding ground for blood sucking mosquitoes which can be likened unto our natural enemy hovering overhead, ever ready to feed upon our spiritual being and suck out the life blood of our mind, buzzing about and laying the eggs of his degenerate society. Those brothers and sisters who may react to the above statements out of wild undiciplined emotion instead of the logic and scientific analysis of a sound mind which was originally created and given to you for the purpose of deductive reasoning, we advise; investigate and examine before you rush forward to condemn. Black People must be very certain that the concepts and decisions on the part of both male and female regarding the practice of polygyny are based on knowledge, wisdom, logic and understanding rather than negative emotional reaction. In light of this let not the white-mindedness that to some degree has infected all of us be a stumbling block to our progress as a race.

In raising this issue we are fully aware that humans tend to see into a concept that which appeals to their own personal desires, therefore we do strongly urge this subject be approached with the right mental and spiritual attitude. For it is our fervent prayer that we as a people may soon move from a position of weak powerlessness to our own proper position of power and strength on the Earth. Again we admonish those brothers and sisters who are desirous of practicing polygyny to study and investigate it well,being certain to properly prepare themselves mentally, physically and spiritually so as to avoid the emotional pain and suffering which is repercussive of incorrect and clandestine dealings. At all times the brother must be honest, fair, wise and strong in order for the sisters to feel confident and secure in the relationship. In light of the wide percentage gap between the Black Female and Black Male population, particularly in America, sisters should adopt a cooperative spirit, while seeking ways to remedy this situation. Every Black Woman who needs and wants one should have a Black man. Remember the survival of the race is at stake here, not our uncontrolled emotions.

As I review the great benefits of polygyny to our ancient societies I'm inclined, while at the same time considering our present position here in the western hemisphere, to propose that this way of life must be revived and redeveloped in this day but it must be done correctly and in harmony with good principles. There is much information and many living examples of this practice available to those who diligently seek it out. Again let us reaffirm that this subject was not presented to foment consternation or to cause brothers and sisters to throw up their defenses, "jump salty with each other" and become polarized into forming opposing camps but rather as a review and examination of a historical reality which has been a component of the Afrikan way of life from earliest times unto the present. We trust those few who may not be in agreement with us in this matter will not assume a hostile posture and discount all the other points of vital information in this book. And so with undying Black Love for all, ponder it will understand the true spirit in which it was set forth. Surely the Creator who revealed the divine light of understanding to our Ancestors in the past is the best knower and the best doer. Now let us consider some of the other sharply contrasting, irreconcilable distinctions which eternally exist between the Afrikan and the Caucasian.

WHAT DO YA'LL THINK OF THIS LIFESTYLE??

WOULD U SHARE YOUR HUSBAND/WIFE TO HELP UPLIFT YOUR PEOPLE??

Maboya
02-23-2006, 03:09 PM
PEACE Aqueous

WHAT DO YA'LL THINK OF THIS LIFESTYLE??

WOULD SHARE YOUR HUSBAND/WIFE TO HELP UPLIFT YOUR PEOPLE??

i don't think it's about "sharing" ones wife..but about a man (with emphasis, not a "playa") having more then one wife

PEACE

Aqueous Moon
02-23-2006, 03:12 PM
Yeah I know what it's about...I was just asking a question to maybe get some views about the flip side, too.
Peace

Maboya
02-23-2006, 03:38 PM
Yeah I know what it's about...I was just asking a question to maybe get some views about the flip side, too.
Peace


that "flip side" is no good ma as we already know:

the wide-spread practice of polyandry - one woman, many men. In the European custom of polyandry one woman, be she mother, daughter, sister and in some cases a queen, became the wife of as many as ten or more men, included in this group might be her father, her son, her brother, her cousin, her uncle as well as her husband and on certain occasions, at the whim of the family head man she was made available for the pleasure of all the men in the community.


btw, what is the source for this article? and does it cite any sources of its own??

PEACE

Aqueous Moon
02-23-2006, 03:48 PM
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I think it's just a debate essay on this persons views about the subject.

The author only spoke about the European custom of polyandry...I was hoping to discuss both sides of the issue in the context of today's society.

However, my emphasis is on the one man having multiple wives lifestyle...I just thought it was a very interesting perspective or solution to the issues black familes face today...

LORD NOSE
02-23-2006, 04:20 PM
in this present world the man is not fit for polygamy

it would be the other way around where the woman has more than one husband today - which is foul -


in a natural world polygamy would be accepted



but if the man is able to handle more than one wife today, so be it

Maboya
02-23-2006, 04:29 PM
http://www.cultural-expressions.com/thesis/thesisdef.htm

thank you

I think it's just a debate essay on this persons views about the subject.

at least a portion of it suggests a historical record was consulted, case in point:

The ancient Europeans said their rationale for doing this was an attempt to minimize the constant fighting and bloodletting of rivals over the limited amount of women available.


The author only spoke about the European custom of polyandry...I was hoping to discuss both sides of the issue in the context of today's society.

i understand

However, my emphasis is on the one man having multiple wives lifestyle...I just thought it was a very interesting perspective or solution to the issues black familes face today...

i agee with it being an interesting perspective... my people the Taino / Arawak were matrilineal similar to the Afrikan and practiced the custom of so called polygamy as well

PEACE

Aqueous Moon
02-23-2006, 05:10 PM
in this present world the man is not fit for polygamy

it would be the other way around where the woman has more than one husband today - which is foul -


in a natural world polygamy would be accepted



but if the man is able to handle more than one wife today, so be it

Well put, Sunny

I guess one day I'll be able to look at this issue from an objective view point and not want to slap the hell outta somebody just for thinking about it.

It seems like matrilieneal = polygamous

That does seem to make sense since there would be no praternal ties in lineage to confuse the situation.

But like you said it is more of a personal choice and resposbility in today's society.

7EL7
02-23-2006, 05:14 PM
when people hear the word polygamy they think of menage sa twoi (did i spell that right ?)


but anyway most males have no idea what it is to take a wife

they get their idea of marriage from wicked sources


same with women too

they looking for a prince charming but have nothing to offer him but butt and mouth


the man and woman bond has been perverted so much that men choose men and women choose women for pleasure mostly - no ones loyal in marriage - jerry springer made it worst

Aqueous Moon
02-23-2006, 05:32 PM
I think males might think like that (don't know about the spelling), I agree.

As a female I just thought...ewwww. and hell naw!...lol

7EL7
02-23-2006, 05:35 PM
I think males might think like that (don't know about the spelling), I agree.

As a female I just thought...ewwww. and hell naw!...lol


many females seem to love it

Aqueous Moon
02-23-2006, 09:58 PM
Damn!...really?

Well, ain't that the truth...still, ewww!

LORD NOSE
02-23-2006, 10:17 PM
Damn!...really?

Well, ain't that the truth...still, ewww!

LOL - we gotta set the record straight

sweet sista
03-13-2006, 10:20 PM
The African Family Structure
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WHAT DO YA'LL THINK OF THIS LIFESTYLE??

WOULD U SHARE YOUR HUSBAND/WIFE TO HELP UPLIFT YOUR PEOPLE??





When i started to read dis i kinda felt good until i read some weird concepts and & statements and one of them.
WOULD U SHARE YOUR HUSBAND/WIFE TO HELP UPLIFT YOUR PEOPLE?
I thought “Na aa, not me” and by the way what's up with tha

surviving and longevity on earth competition thing.

i think the biggest danger that shorten one's prosper or shorten the “longevity” on earth ain't have noting to do wit marrying whites or other races but things like poverty,Carnages and maybe slavery too.
How?
Poverty in Africa kills million of oua brathaz and sistiz. And of course it happens in a lot of other areas in da world.
Carnages that happen to civilians and leave millions of dead bodies. Because of some inhuman people who have no atom of humanity. & da UN say dat it does someting but i see noting take place if tings didn't get any worse alrerady.
Slavery either the old-fashioned one that we all know or the new slavery u know like sex trade or somethin' like dat.

And yeah what if a sista found that Caucasian is more understanding and sensitive than the brutha. especially dese days there r lots of bruthaz & sistiz who r married 2 different races.

don't get me wrong i'd love to do somethin' 4 ma people but it has to be proper and just and not dishearten to one's dream.
Beside the bruthaz sit their asses in front of T.V 24.7 . I don't think they can take care of themselves then how they will take care of one or more wives. Dis is crazy. Nah i don't mean there isn't a brutha out there who can take care of his wife. He can take care of one barely. but more!! i doubt.

Aqueous Moon
03-13-2006, 10:29 PM
Yes, my sistah and think about the seeds.

Black children already missing out on the strong black male prescence....what's go happen if he got like 2 or 3 kids from 2 or 3 different wives??

I'm not too optimistic.

But, what if we as Black women could actually unite in a way as to create unity amongst ourselves to ensure the elevation and survival of our children.

When I first read this...my emotions overwhelmed me.

As I began to think deeper, I thought that there may be a jewel in the philosophy of polygamy.

Because, more women united = more protection for ourselves and our seeds.

The problem is how to get over the emotional aspect of this kinda lifestyle and make it be peace.

And I'm not suggesting that polgamy is the only way Black Women can get to this safe place...I just can't deny the jewels present in this kinda lifestyle.

LORD NOSE
05-15-2009, 02:00 PM
in a few, we might not have much choice but to take on the responsibility of those men who refuse to take care of business

Cee Oh Vee
05-15-2009, 06:25 PM
May I just ask if there is a reason for the spelling 'Afrikans' as opposed to 'Africans'?

Peace.

Lil mD
05-16-2009, 04:40 PM
Ok guys ! What do u think about female polygamy ?