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Dissonance
02-24-2006, 01:48 PM
I know it sounds crazy but I watched this movie again, and beforehand I was just kidding with myself about the title for obvious reasons. But then I really started using my third eye wathcing it. If you scratch beneath the surface it's crazy:

You have 2 cops chasing 1 man. But we all know knowledge(1) must come BEFORE wisdom(2). But it does. John Doe(the 1) actually is on to the 2 even though they are really chasing him. So no matter what, Knowledge will always come before Wisdom and if you try to put Wisdom first, you will find that you can't, and the Knowledge will find you first. Because everything always goes back to the 1.

Now before I go back to some of the Math you gotta look at the characters. Morgan Freeman is the Black Man. He has knowledge of self and wisdom. He knows what's going on. Brad Pitt is clueless and uncivilised. He can't think before he acts and speaks and has no patience for gaining knowledge or wisdom. He is walkign around with blinders on. He even pretends and feins knowledge(the cliff notes) just like all people who claim faith in some spook god like it's real. Even his wife, when she needs guidance goes to the Black Man bc she know he has the Knowledge and the Wisdom, something her own husband lacks.

The scene that really grabbed me and hurt, bc it's so true though was the scene in the library. Morgan Freeman goes there to study. There you see the security guards (Black Men and those of Latin descsent) who are there everyday. And what do they do? They play cards. Freeman points this out to them. He says ou have all the knowledge here at your fingertips and you play cards. Which is true. We have the Knowledge and the Wisdom and so many of us refuse to see it or turn our back to it and give in to the frivilous devil crap.

But back to the #'s. First the cops are chasing John Doe. That name is important bc it means someone who is unknown. Representin this unknown mystery God that no one can find. But all they end up finding is devilishment. You take the 7 deadly sins, bc John Doe believes he is serving God. But he kills 5 people and the last 2 are himself and Pitt to complete the cypher. So you have Power/Refinement(5) coming before the 2 which is once again Wisdom. If you have Power/Refinement before you do the Wisdom you lose control and have lost Truth. That's why they couldn't see what was ahead until it was too late and the circle was complete, finishing the 7 sins and having Pitt foolishly not be able to check his emotions and kill John Doe. The 1 (Knowledge represented by John Doe) knew what was going to happen the whole time. And Freeman knew it too as he said John Doe "has the upper hand"

Even if ou look on the DVD box and check out chapter 7....it's Greed....which starts with a G(the 7th letter). Greed being the # 1 action that causes man to seperate and lose GOD and fall in with the devils. That shit can'r just be a coincidence.

I just tried to type this up fast but if anyone can add on..go ahead.

Peace

Aqueous Moon
02-24-2006, 02:06 PM
Woooow....that's off the chain. I always did dig that movie, I just never thought on it like that. That's deep.

There's not much to add-on...you are on point with the mathematics!!

But, I remember the part when John doe beheads the wife of the cop and presents it to the uncivilized (brad pitt). Which is like the knowledge that he needs to understand, cause the head represents the #1.

Then the uncivilized (brad pitt) can't comprehend the lesson and goes on to seal his on fate by attempting to kill the John Doe (knowledge) but ultimately killing himself in the process.

Even while the blackman was urging him to see things for what they really are and not fall into the trap...like you said.

Damn!...that was a great post...Im going to rent that movie tonight. Good building!

Dissonance
02-24-2006, 02:19 PM
But, I remember the part when John doe beheads the wife of the cop and presents it to the uncivilized (brad pitt). Which is like the knowledge that he needs to understand, cause the head represents the #1.

Then the uncivilized (brad pitt) can't comprehend the lesson and goes on to seal his on fate by attempting to kill the John Doe (knowledge) but ultimately killing himself in the process.

Even while the blackman was urging him to see things for what they really are and not fall into the trap...like you said.
!


Great Build!! I left some of that out bc I was in a rush(gotta do the laundry...lol) but you are on point with his wife's head...I was going to say the same thing, I thought I did, but i must of overlooked it....

7EL7
02-24-2006, 02:22 PM
hey dissonance i wanna ask you something when you come back

Aqueous Moon
02-24-2006, 02:26 PM
Dissonance, That was just a wonderful way of displaying the universal nature of Supreme Mathematics...how you did that and noticed that...amazing.

I mean just wow...again beautiful build and I couldn't add- on much but, I was feeling everything you drew up.

Don't stop posting stuff like this...just great.

LHX
02-24-2006, 03:00 PM
(the law of fives)

Frontal Lobotomy
02-24-2006, 03:16 PM
Wow, I never saw that before. I mean, I knew there was something between the lines so to speak, but couldn't quite spot it.
Great stuff, Ima get that movie again

Maboya
02-24-2006, 04:49 PM
probably the first topic of its kind on KTL...i've peeped esoteric/occultic meanings of many movies..but never went into it like this...excellent post

Taino Ti

LORD NOSE
02-24-2006, 07:17 PM
i must be missing something in the post

LHX
02-24-2006, 07:46 PM
i think i missed something too

Dissonance
02-24-2006, 07:56 PM
You got to watch it again. Look for the symbolism and themes running through the movie. It's like a microcosm of the struggle. It's bugged out. This ain't on some law of fives type shit...lol...

Dissonance
03-10-2006, 06:35 PM
Read the responses in this thread. Those who aggreed and found this deep and full of knowledge have exposed themselves and their "math". This was absolute complete arbitrary jibberish made up in about 10 minutes. It shows how foolish this "knowledge" and "wisdom" is. It is a simple play on words and numbers to make the feeble, uneducated and ignorant fool themselves into thinking they have minds.

Those who responded in aggreement have the minds of children and shouldn't be speaking on anything. There are no words to truly express the ignorance. And some others here think they speak of anything.....sad



The Law of Fives indeed...fools

Aqueous Moon
03-10-2006, 06:40 PM
Oh...I get it the old bait and switch, right?

Hahaha....very funny...your an idiot.

Is that simple enough for you to understand?

How about this play on words....go fuck yourself!

You are a child you don't even have 7 inches of hard dick to poke at me with.

Get it?

7 is God and you just a dog.

Dissonance
03-10-2006, 06:43 PM
The children expose themselves so quickly and easily.

Aqueous Moon
03-10-2006, 06:45 PM
:hooray: :clap:

Bloo
03-11-2006, 04:12 AM
Yo, for real that was real ill Dis.

You brought me back to a time not too long ago. When I still lived at home my mom would watch Seven everyday. Well one day when she was watching I asked her why she did all the time and she told me it was because She related to the characters so much. She didn't break it down with math like you did but pretty much the same way. She told me that she identifies with Morgan Freeman's character and said his wisdon came from his experience and going through things while of course Brad Pitt being the young hard head. My mom used to do a lot of crazy shit back in the day and she used to tell me, if she had the wisom of those things she did back when she was younger she would've went about the situations totally different. You know, wouldn't have flipped so easily and just rationalized instead. But the last part of the movie was the realest to her and she told me that she felt the same way as Morgan, that killing him would've been giving him what he wanted and she wouldn't knowing this. It's like I heard my man Christbearer said although I'm sure he's not the first to say it...

When we are able to see beyond the effect to the cause that produced the effect, then we are able to see correct. And no longer will our decisions be emotional decisions, they are made rational and with precision.

Rise above emotions

tajeco
03-12-2006, 02:27 PM
I'm confused, call me stupid, whatever, you made damn good points, but you were just speaking jibberish? I don't get it. It's like you just went 10 for 10 from the free throw line, then when everyone said "nice shooting", you say "not really, I actually missed 3 of them."

BlaK FuRYaN
03-12-2006, 07:55 PM
654/*54/5*+/--+/*/+6-5*-6/+*-5+/6-8+98-9=1

LORD NOSE
03-12-2006, 08:45 PM
i must be missing something in the post



i was being mild with you

Decipha Born
03-13-2006, 07:50 AM
I know it sounds crazy but I watched this movie again, and beforehand I was just kidding with myself about the title for obvious reasons. But then I really started using my third eye wathcing it. If you scratch beneath the surface it's crazy:

You have 2 cops chasing 1 man. But we all know knowledge(1) must come BEFORE wisdom(2). But it does. John Doe(the 1) actually is on to the 2 even though they are really chasing him. So no matter what, Knowledge will always come before Wisdom and if you try to put Wisdom first, you will find that you can't, and the Knowledge will find you first. Because everything always goes back to the 1.

Now before I go back to some of the Math you gotta look at the characters. Morgan Freeman is the Black Man. He has knowledge of self and wisdom. He knows what's going on. Brad Pitt is clueless and uncivilised. He can't think before he acts and speaks and has no patience for gaining knowledge or wisdom. He is walkign around with blinders on. He even pretends and feins knowledge(the cliff notes) just like all people who claim faith in some spook god like it's real. Even his wife, when she needs guidance goes to the Black Man bc she know he has the Knowledge and the Wisdom, something her own husband lacks.

The scene that really grabbed me and hurt, bc it's so true though was the scene in the library. Morgan Freeman goes there to study. There you see the security guards (Black Men and those of Latin descsent) who are there everyday. And what do they do? They play cards. Freeman points this out to them. He says ou have all the knowledge here at your fingertips and you play cards. Which is true. We have the Knowledge and the Wisdom and so many of us refuse to see it or turn our back to it and give in to the frivilous devil crap.

But back to the #'s. First the cops are chasing John Doe. That name is important bc it means someone who is unknown. Representin this unknown mystery God that no one can find. But all they end up finding is devilishment. You take the 7 deadly sins, bc John Doe believes he is serving God. But he kills 5 people and the last 2 are himself and Pitt to complete the cypher. So you have Power/Refinement(5) coming before the 2 which is once again Wisdom. If you have Power/Refinement before you do the Wisdom you lose control and have lost Truth. That's why they couldn't see what was ahead until it was too late and the circle was complete, finishing the 7 sins and having Pitt foolishly not be able to check his emotions and kill John Doe. The 1 (Knowledge represented by John Doe) knew what was going to happen the whole time. And Freeman knew it too as he said John Doe "has the upper hand"

Even if ou look on the DVD box and check out chapter 7....it's Greed....which starts with a G(the 7th letter). Greed being the # 1 action that causes man to seperate and lose GOD and fall in with the devils. That shit can'r just be a coincidence.

I just tried to type this up fast but if anyone can add on..go ahead.

Peace

dam i just thought that dude was crazy.

my favorite scene is morgan free-man and gwenthen paltro when she tells him that shes having a seed.

thank you for asking.