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02-27-2006, 04:32 PM
Ice Cube (West side connection) Vs. Cypress Hill
Rumours that the beef between these two power factors from the westcoast started when B-Real played a demo of the Cypress Hill album “Temples of boom” for Ice Cube. According to B-Real Ice Cube took the hook from the track “Throw Your Set In The Air" and used it in the track "Friday" from the soundtrack under the same name. Cypress Hill started this lyrical warfare with the track “No rest for the wicked” from the final and remastered version of “Temples of boom”. Dissin Ice Cube on more than one level with lyrics like;
I got Cube melting in a Tray, Pulling up his card & fucking up his good day!”.
Soon after “Temples of boom” was released Ice Cube recorded a diss back with his partners WC and Mack 10 (Westside Connection) on the group’s first album “Bow Down". On the track “King of the hill”Ice Cube teams up with Mack 10 and disses Cypress Hill as a direct reaction to the track “No rest for the wicked”.” King of the hill was not the only diss track towards Cypress Hill on the album on the track “cross em out and put a k” bust WSC lyrics like;
B-Real and Miss Muggs is like Hollywood bitches From the niggas I know in the streets I run through Swear to god bitch,real it ain't one dog and no(body) So watch what you say,who ya talkin bout,ya tweakin And keep hogs out'cha mouth when ya bitch ass is speakin I'm sick wit it,cappin'cha dome till I hit it This Westside Connection,Cypress know they can't fuck with it
When Cypress hill heard that Mack 10 had joined up with Ice Cube it caused more heat to the now on going beef. Cypress Hill didn’t take long to respond with the track “Ice Cube Killa” or the tracks other name”Fuck Westside connection” which an unreleased track with the same beat as WSC track "king of the hill". Cypress also got hold of a rapper that sounded exactly as Cube to rap on the track so it sounds like Cube is dissin himself on the track, when in reality it is a completely different rapper. Ice Cube’s cousin Kam also got involved in the feud when he felt dissed by Cube. Kam hailing from the east side of Los Angeles felt dissed when Cube was rappin about the Westside on bow down. Kam also dissed Cube on the track "Whoop Whoop" produced by DjPooh. Rumour has that one of Kam’s homie’s beat down Cube on a party and snatched his Westside connection chain. The same chain ending up in B-Real’s hands later on. The beef is now squashed but not totally forgotten and it’s uncertain if the two clicks’ is going to be as tight as there were before the beef.
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Jay-Z Vs. Terror Squad
Back in 1997 and 98, in the middle of New York’s second stint at the top of popular rap, two crews reigned supreme: Jay-Z’s Roc-A-Fella Records, and Big Pun’s Terror Squad. While TS’s Fat Joe claims to have been close to putting an album out with the late Biggie, TS and the Roc apparently had some bad blood.
Reports are fuzzy; what is certain is that there was an incident at an NY club known as Carbon, now called Exit. From there, most is speculation. Some claim the incident was between a TS member and an acquaintance of Jigga’s, not the man himself--and some would say it was Jay-Z, Dame Dash, Sauce Money and possibly other crewmembers against anywhere from a mob of TS affiliates to simply Pun, Joe and former member Cuban Link.
According to the more action-packed story, someone from the Roc got drunk and ran off at the mouth. Sauce Money or Jay-Z was hit in the head with a bottle by Cuban, while Joe and Pun pulled a razor and a gun, respectively, on Jay. Lines from Pun’s song 100% would seem to substantiate this claim:
Don't let the liquor fool you, cause I'll stick it to you Somethin sharp to the heart, or somethin big to move you The Desert or the shottie, whateva you the body that chose to be the dumb nigga at the party Too much Bacardi started speakin dumb Then you tried to snuff Joe - must have been Puerto Rican rum That's the hardcore, two years a sophomore Takes years to earn a pair of Terror Squad balls
As well as the line "There'll be no pardon/next time I catch you at the Carbon"
Even years after Pun’s death, Jay and Joey have been known to throw shots at each other. The most recent being on the 04 hit Lean Back, when Joey Crack (doesn’t) speak on the Rucker, referencing a truce-attempt basketball game between the Roc and TS, which Roc-A-Fella ended up forfeiting. Then on the remix to Kanye West’s Diamonds (From Sierra Leone), Jay replies, “Guess who ain’t gon Crack--pardon me, I had to laugh at that.”
The beef is as yet unresolved, however it seems as though Jay-Z and Joey are the only parties still carrying on the bad blood.
Nas Vs. Notourious BIG
In many hip-hop beefs things are highly publicized, the thinking being this will help sell records. While this works sometimes, and leads to pain and death others, many beefs are kept under wraps; strictly behind-the-scenes, so much so that many fans won’t know about the beef until dissing erupts or people start talkin years later. One of these beefs would have to be one-time New York Kings, Nas and Notorious BIG.
In this particular conflict, it was a lot of little things adding up. The way Nas tells it they were cool once, but it’s said the best bump heads at the top. As explained in the song “Last Real Nigga Alive,” he was friends with both Raekwon and Biggie, but the two of them didn’t get along--as Raekwon had the skit with Ghostface “Shark Niggaz” on OB4CL, accusing Big of biting Nas’ album cover (although Meth was cool with Big, who also referred to himself as 'Frank Wza' once, and has done a song with Raekwon and a couple other Wu members called Stop the Breaks).
Nas also apparently got jealous of Biggie and Jay-Z coming up under his nose threatening to take his spot. Before Jay came in the game Nas and Big had tossed subliminals, as in the lines "there’s only room for one king in new york" and Biggie on Victory with the line, "Your fam/Destiny lays in my hands, gat lays at my waist" which is a reference to Nas’ daughter Destiny; plus Nas on the Lost Tapes saying "shoot the crown off the so-called king" or something to that effect.
After that, when Jigga (who at the time was a huge Nas fan) called Nas to be in his Dead Presidents video with AZ and Biggie playing monopoly with real money; but when Nas found out he wasn't being payed for the sample, he refused. He was also apparently sore that Big would guest on Jay's album as evidenced when later on, Nas would say "my first album had no famous guest appearances" when he was even supposed to be ON the song as well. So, Big dissed him for that and made the song "Kick in the Door" which Nas has admitted was about him. On a later album, he writes imaginary letters to Pac and Big in heaven and says to biggie something like "wasn't it fun to diss each other to see how we'd respond."
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Eminem Vs. Cage
Eminem is undoubtedly the nation’s most popular and successful crazy, whiteboy MC to date. However not even many of his fans know of the slew of other of drugged-out triphop, white, horrorcore rappers, and the static Em had at one point with some of these MCs.
The brunt of the beef was aimed at Cage, who claimed Em stole his style. While they sound very similar, it’s indeterminate who stole whose style, if anyone. The problems began around the release of the Slim Shady EP in 1998. Following this, Em disses him on the song “Role Model,” with the lines “Bought Cage’s tape/Opened it and dubbed over it,” then on the freestyle “Drastic Measures” with lines like “I’m pickin up Cage’s sister early,” “Went on stage and sprayed Cage wit Agent Orange,” and “Wiped my ass wit his page in the Source.” There is also another freestyle wherein he says “I write a rhyme a day/ So it's no wonder how come your whole album is soundin like a bunch of shit that I would say (CAGE!)”
The Eastern Conference rapper quickly responded with diss tracks like “And So Kiddies…” dissing “Tired rhyme styles from Detroit, Michigan.” There is a rare freestyle called “Bitch Lady” where he refers to Em’s alter ego Slim Shady, and a track “The Illest Four Letter Word” where he raps “I heard some blonde bitch walking through New York looking for Cage/ I’ll stab you in the face/ Ten times in the same place.” Finally there exists a spoof of “Still Dre” called “Still Cage.”
Both participants have neither continued the beef or resolved it at this point.
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Death Row Records Vs. Bad Boy Entertainment
The heated beef between Death Row and Bad Boy came from the result of one death at a birthday party for Jermaine Dupri. Jake “Tha Violator” Robles was shot dead at the event and is seen to many as the death that sparked the East-West rivalry. Robles happened to be a close friend and bodyguard for Death Row CEO Suge Knight, who himself was getting a infamous name in the rap game and was said by many to be “The wrong nigga to fuck with”. At the moment Robles was shot, Knight was being detained by Bad Boy CEO Sean “Puffy” Combs, who became the one to blame for the incedent in Suge's eyes. “You Had something to do with this, didn’t you” were the words from Suge right before his abrupt departure from the party. Tensions flared with the coverage angle the media gave the story. The suggestion of a direct East vs. West incident sparked even more unrest from both coast's artists and fans.
Fast forward a few months to the 1995 Source Awards. The event itself was held in the Paramount theater in New York City right at the time East-West tensions were just starting to brew. It even seemed that the event was set up to be a Bad Boy vs. Death Row night, with half the main performances by the Death Row artists: Snoop Doggy Dogg, Dr. Dre, Nate Dogg, Kurupt, Rage, Sam Sneed, DJ Quik, while the other half Bad Boy artists: Notorious B.I.G., Puff Daddy, Craig Mack, Faith, Total, and Junior M.A.F.I.A.. The NYC audience too was getting in on the action by booing every West performer and presenter that went on stage. The first ones to be fed up with this treatment were Snoop Doggy Dogg, who went off on the audience, and Dat Nigga Daz who collectively stated to the audience, “From the bottom of my heart, ya’ll can eat this dick”. It seemed like it could get no worse... That is until the climax where Suge Knight got on stage and bluntly said, "If anyone wants to come to a record company were they don't want the executive producer singin on the records, Dancin all up in the videos come to Death Row." This of course was a direct insult to Puffy who was known for appearing in certain Bad Boy artists videos as well as having adlibs on albums. Right after that Suge had one more message: "I just want to take the time to let Tupac know that we are down for you and will ride for you." Perhaps a taste of things to come? Puffy later in the show tried to make tensions at-ease when he praised Death Row for their work in the industry. It was to no avail.
The signing heard all around the rap world. After over half a year behind bars rapper/actor Tupac Shakur was released on bail, which was paid in full by Suge Knight. Knight then signed Shakur to a 3 album deal on his Death Row label. A year earlier Shakur was shot 5 times, and initially blamed Bad Boy lead artist The Notorious B.I.G. for the set up. With Biggie on Bad Boy and now Death Row’s newest acquisition in 2Pac, the Death Row-Bad Boy beef was set to move from a petty dispute to all out war. In February 2Pac released All Eyez on Me, rap's first double CD. Though it had no direct disses to Bad Boy, it would be Pac's official initiation to Tha Row.
In the following months a rap summit was going to be held in order to settle this beef. Suge and Death Row attended, but Puffy and the Bad Boy camp did not. Rumors of Bad Boy's no-show ran ramped. Stories of Puffy's sheer terror of Suge, or possible death threats coming from Death Row's side if Bad Boy were to attend, were all gossip when it came to the surprising absence of Bad Boy. After all it was Puffy who all this time only spoke of peace and wanting to settle the dispute. To add to that, a confrontation at the Soul Train awards where the two camps faced off (only flexing, nothing else), and another Rap Summit that would be held to no avail. This time Suge would for the first time step in to defuse the situation (in his own way). "There's nothing between Death Row and Bad Boy, or me and Puffy", claimed Suge, "Death Row sells volume - so how could Puffy be a threat to me, or Bad Boy be a threat to Death Row?" Not too long afterward, 2pac released a maxi-single for “How Do U Want It” containing a b-side with the most venomous diss song ever in Hi-Hop: “Hit Em Up”. The song dissed the whole Bad Boy Camp and became the first strike from the Death Row's side on wax.
Throughout 1996, 2Pac and Death Row would continue it’s verbal assault on Bad Boy (as well as other NY artists) in what the media would perceive as an all out war between the West Coast and East Coast hip hop factions. 2Pac and the Death Row camp would flat out diss Bad Boy in certain concert performances, interviews and media events. Bad Boy itself was having trouble pushing its albums as a result of 2Pac’s verbal assaults. B.I.G. and Puffy proposed peace instead of this beef that Pac was overwhelming them with. Puffy would say in many interviews that he just wished the feud between the two camps was over, he wanted peace. 2pac did not accept. 2Pac felt that this was a sign of weakness and that he and Death Row would have to literally lock down both coasts and remold it in their image. Even as far as making a move for East Coast domination with the new label, Death Row East. Suge himself added fuel to the fire by saying Biggie, puffy, Tupac and himself should get a boxing match going. Shakur in the eye of Suge's contest idea, suggested putting on a Pay-Per-View Rap Battle in Atlanta or Chicago between the two camps. Yet and still Bad Boy maintained they only wanted peace and took a backseat to the drama, letting Death Row continue it's rampage unchallenged. Truly the only way to stop Death Row’s rampage was if it was done from within.
2Pac, being the main one perusing the beef, became a target even amongst his fellow label mates. Dr. Dre in June of 1996 left Death Row to start his own label. Snoop Doggy Dogg guest appeared on a NY radio show saying he had nothing to do with Suge and 2Pac’s war and even said he was against it. Both of these actions angered Suge and 2Pac who in turn made accusations of Dre’s sexuality and fortitude. Secret from the public however, was a rumored beef between 2Pac and Snoop. Their have been claims Pac recorded a Hit Em Up version dedicated to Snoop himself. The Death Row camp was at a division among the artists. 2Pac and the Outlawz on one side, while the DPG members on the other. Suge couldn’t take sides at the moment because of the money making potential from both sides of the Death Row division. These actions were not known to the public yet, but would be later on.
The final crushing blow to Death Row’s assault on Bad Boy would not be from Bad Boy, as it hadn’t been throughout the whole beef. It would come from the untimely death of the main voice behind the beef. Tupac Shakur was shot four times while attending a Mike Tyson fight in Las Vegas on September 7th, being the first tragedy resulting from the beef . Shakur and the Death Row camp had been in a scuffle earlier that night with a member of the Southside Crips (Rivals of MOB Piru Bloods which the Death Row Records staff mainly consisted of), and later would be shot allegedly by the same Crip that the Death Row camp jumped. A week later Tupac passed away in a Las Vegas hospital at the age of 25. In November of that year Death Row would release the final Tupac album containing disses to Bad Boy and other New York rappers under a new name Tupac fashioned for himself: Makaveli. The Makaveli (Ebonics for Italian philosopher Niccolo Machiavelli) album contained harsh words towards the Bad Boy camp, Dr. Dre, Nas, Jay-Z, and even the names of his shooters from 1994. That combined with many would be Machiavellian death-faking messages, made the Makaveli album one of the most controversial albums ever in Hip-Hop. Till this day, 2Pac fans still refer to many alive theories brought on from the Makaveli album.
In 1997 even more tragedy would finally close the Death Row-Bad Boy beef for good. On March 9th in Los Angeles, The Notorious B.I.G. was shot and killed while doing advanced press for his upcoming album “Life After Death”. Both murders remain unsolved, but speculation to the death’s have not gone unheard. An investigation that seemed to lead all the way form LAPD Rampart division to Suge Knight himself, has been one leading theory for the death of B.I.G.. In similar likeness, accusations and conspiracy theories to Pac’s Death include Southside Crip members and a LA Times article fingering B.I.G. as the man pulling the strings for the murder. Whoever was responsible for the murders is irrelevant. The fact that Hip-Hop lost two of it’s greatest artists at such an early age, and over a coast and company is the real issue and monumental tragedy. Perhaps one that Hip Hop will never stop mourning or truly recover from.
Bone Vs. Three 6 mafia, Twista and Do or Die
What have these rappers/groups in common: their high-speed style of rapping that’s what. So a collision was unavoidable when the question came up who was the founder of the style and who copied who. First out was Memphis based rap group Three 6 mafia who felt dissed by Bone Thugs-N-Harmony who called their home city Memphis a bunk ass town in some context. Rumor has it that Three 6 mafia also thought that Bone stool their style of rapping. Three 6 mafia recorded the ep "Live by Yo Rep" in 1995 callin out Bone on the chorus:
“Bone, live by yo rep cause we know you bound to slip When we blast with that mask we gon empty this clip”
The track "Live by Yo Rep" was also on Three 6 mafia first album "Mystic Stylez". Taking Three 6 mafia from an underground level to a bigger audience. Bone busted back on their second group album “Art of War” with tracks like “U Ain't Bone”. On the track Bone throws lyrical heat all them wanna be haters copying Bone’s style. The beef between Bone and Three 6 mafia was relatively short lived and squashed years ago. While Bone Thugs-N-Harmony sold millions of records and making a name for themselves. Rappers from Chicago known for their high-speed tongue twisting style of rapping with act’s like; Twista, Do or Die, Crucial Conflict, and Snypaz didn’t get that much recognition and attention. The origin to the beef between Bone and Twista, Do or Die is unclear to me. One reason could be that Bone on the album "Art of War" throws lyrical blows on numerous tracks to so called biters copying Bones style. Bone does not shout out name on any of the tracks so you can say that they are not exactly addressed directly to anyone specific . Analyze the lyrics yourself on "You ain’t bone" and "Look Into My Eyes"
You ain’t bone: As I look at my shit make history No mystery. Mistook and, nigga That eight-time platinum real How do you feel to the thugs appeal? Make nigga wanna sound like Bone for a record deal Should'a kept it real and quit fronting. Nigga Go round-for-round with the best Nigga, step up and meet your death Fucking with Kray, Little Lay, Biz, Wish, and Flesh Yeah, it's all about survival of the fittest and it's on Nigga, realize, or you die. You bitch ass niggas ain't Bone.
Look Into My Eyes;
What makes a nigga think he can bite my shit and call his shit original? What's worse, tellin' people you made the style we put down three fuckin' years ago
The tracks most have caused some feelings cause Do or Die came out and dissed Bone on their third solo album called "Headz or Tailz" on the track “Bustin Back featuring Lil Chilla from the group Snypaz” with lyrics like;
yo whole gun started killin bitch faster, I hit the stash out get the cash out, I get the gas out, then we mashed out nigga, dash out, mash out, hit the next bitch an shout right now from the Lexus fuck Bone cuz it's on in my city, so stick it, stick it stick it, stick it, bitch now what?
Do or Die was not the only one’s that came after Bone. Another Chicago based rapper Twista gave Bone a bone to pick on the track "Crook County", from his second solo album called "Mobstability".
Lyrics from Crooks County;
The Bone niggas 'bout to get slaughtered and raped I can slow down and audit the tape Y'all bent and all y'all who thought it was fake Now watch (?) on the stage, beef and the rage Die on the first on the month, 'cause it's than the blunt Why would you compete to be doomed, now you gon' see Eazy-E soon Feel the boom of the reprecussion, 'cause the reefer's still rushin' When I reach and start bustin' I'm a Bone Crusher, Crook County or nothin Ain't no bluffin'
The beef between L-Burna (Lazie Bone) and Twista has to my knowledge been crushed since the two did a track together called "Midwest invasion". However strangely Lazie Bone or L-Burna dissed Do or Die on his solo album” Thug by nature” Knowing that Twista runs with Do or Die and they have recorded several tracks together including the hit “po pimp” Lyrics from L-Burna’s track Battlefield;
Throwing your grid that’s how I feel Keep it real or I'll have to kill Fuck them Do or Die niggas Yall bitch ass niggas can't do shit to me Put your fist up and the swords fake ass niggas aint had no victory When I see niggas retreated When you see me I'm heated Hows you fuckin ready to release it Keep it them niggas defeated Bower down motherfuckers better leave it alone I'm bringin the thug world order nigga the war been on bitch.
Most of the beef’s between these groups/rappers have been over who came up with the fast rappin style. With the style issue in center there are no doubts about it that Bone Thugs-N-Harmony hit the bigger audience first with their ep "Creepin on ah Come Up" in 1994. Who really was first with the unique style of rappin is uncertain. I know for a fact that three 6 mafia did underground tapes before getting a record deal and that on Bone’s underground record "Faces of Death" showed that their rap style wasn’t as fast as it now days
Common Vs. Ice Cube
When you say the word “beef”, you don’t necessarily expect to hear the name Common pop up. Nor do you expect the Chicago rapper to be associated in any way with the West Coast legend Ice Cube, but the two did have a fairly high-profile lyrical rivalry in the early to mid 90’s.
In 1994, Common’s classic album Resurrection dropped. One of its most recognized songs was “I Used to Love H.E.R.,” in which he becomes the first rapper to refer to hip-hop as a woman. In the song he mentions the West Coast rap scene, saying:
“But then she broke to the west coast, and that was cool Cause around the same time, I went away to school And I’m a man of expandin, so why should I stand in her way She probably get her money in l.a. And she did stud, she got big pub but what was foul She said that the pro-black, was goin out of style She said, afrocentricity, was of the past So she got into r&b hip-house bass and jazz Now black music is black music and it’s all good I wasn’t salty, she was with the boys in the hood* Cause that was good for her, she was becomin well rounded I thought it was dope how she was on that freestyle shit Just havin fun, not worried about anyone And you could tell, by how her titties hung”
* A reference to the popular 1991 movie Boyz ‘n the Hood, in which Ice Cube starred.
Cube took offense to this seemingly disrespectful talk about his native Coast and the rap scene he had helped create and build, and dissed Common on the record “On Them Thangs,” which sparked Common’s reply “The Bitch in Yoo.” To prevent things from getting more serious, the two agreed to a sit-down with Minister Farrakhan and sorted out their issues.
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Nas Vs. Queensbridge
Is it Nas’ fault that he never seems to get along with rappers from his own hood?
When in 1995, NY duo Mobb Deep released their critically acclaimed Infamous, an appearance from a young Nas fresh off his supernova-scale success with Illmatic seemed to cement QB’s new dominance in the NY rap scene.
On Nas’ second album It Was Written, he not only featured Mobb Deep on a song of his but his new crew, The Firm with fellow QB rapper Cormega and two other NY cats, AZ and Foxy Brown.
When the Firm album dropped a year later, however, Cormega’s spot was filled by another Queensbridge native by the alias of Nature. Mega went on to diss Nas and Nature in the aptly-titled “Fuck Nas and Nature,”stating that he was kicked out of the Firm because he refused to sign a production deal with Steve Stout’s pet label, Trackmasters, on which the Firm album would be released. Recently in Rime magazine, Mega also revealed that he offered to pay Nas a finder’s fee, but the two disagreed on the amount.
Even Nature would have problems with Nas, dissing the former figurehead of QB on the songs “We Ain’t Friends” and “Nas is Not” off his 2000 album For All Seasons; a Nas verse was even removed from the song In Too Deep. Still, Nate was featured on the compilation album QB Finest, which dropped exactly three months later, as was Cormega–probably tracks done before all the beef.
The Mobb and Nas had united for a line of guest appearances culminating in the Finest album, also featuring MC Shan, Nas’ Braveheart crew, Cormega, Nature, Lake, LL Cool J and various other QB rappers. By this time Nas was perceived almost as a part of M-O-B-B; however, in 2001's Stillmatic, Nas sent flames at Nature, Mega and Prodigy on the track Destroy & Rebuild. This sparked a retaliation from Prodigy on the song “RIP Nas,” and a song with Havoc “Point Out the Clowns” dissing both Nas and Jay-Z.
After one Summer Jam, the year Jay-Z dropped his opus in the J/N beef “Takeover,” Nas went on NY station Power 105 and started talking shit about numerous rappers, also taking the time to tell fellow QB rapper N.O.R.E. of CNN (Capone-N-Nore) to step his rap game up, which started their relationship to fluctuating.
After the end of the Jay-Z beef and just before the release of Nas’ latest album Street’s Disciple, Nas did a show that included Prodigy and Nas hugging onstage, squashing their beef and preceeding an eventful 2005. A little later, N.O.R.E. and Nas rekindled their beef with a short scuffle involving a smashed flowerpot, after which the rapper formerly known as Noreaga apologized on the radio.
Up to now, Nature hasn’t maintained a relationship with Nas; Cormega has stated that Nas has reached out to him several times, but Cory is still hesitant about reestablishing a connection, and N.O.R.E. and Nas are presumably still cooling off. However, Nas sent subliminals at Mobb Deep once again due to the Mobb’s recent signing with G-Unit Records, home to Nas’ current nemesis 50 Cent.
No Limit Records Vs. Cash Money Records
How the beef started and ended.
Back in 1998 No Limit was the most popular record label in Rap/hip-hop. With stars like Master P, Mystikal, Snoop Dogg, Silkk The Shocker and many more they took the world by storm and were selling platinum and gold with almost every release. By 1999 people got tired of No Limit and were looking for another label to take over. In Cash Money Records Universal found a number one contender to No Limit. Cash Money Records who where also based in the south. The New Orleans based Cash Money was blowing up the southern underground-scene and was waiting for the right label to give them the push they deserved to make it big time. That label would be Universal Records who gave them their 30 million dollar deal. With Universal backing them they started to create a buzz trough out the rap world. This didn’t seem to bother No Limit since they gave them shout outs on records/interviews. Even people from No Limit were cool with Cash Money and vice versa.
Like I said earlier, No Limit didn’t care that Cash Money would be their biggest challenge sales wise. In fact they seemed to be proud that there was another southern label blowing up. The beef however started when No Limit was about to release a movie called “Hot Boyz” which is a popular slang in New Orleans but also the name of Cash Moneys Super group (with members like B.G, Juvenile, Lil Wayne and Turk) but Hot Boyz got their name from a local neighbourhood thug who called him self a “Hot Boy”. Feeling disrespected by No Limit the Hot Boyz started to call the No Limit camp “biters” – and with their 1999 “Guerrilla Warfare” album they dropped sneak disses on songs like “Help” “Hotgirl” and “I Feel”.
Lyrics from “Help”
“Nigga, my click raw, play it us we blow shit We was trained for war, believe we act a fool bitch We take situations fo, we don't play no games bitch We put on sound to talk aloud, the kids claim shit We on another level you stuck on the same shit CMB came through now we done rearranged shit We got the game locked these wannabe soldiers ain't shit Y'all ain't from uptown, can't come homebound and say the flow, you bitch We don't wear the suit, we wear tee's, fro's and reez” (No Limit called them self soldiers and was accused of being biters. They also wear suits.)
Lyrics from “Hotgirl”
“Fuck a "Thug girl" them hoes can only suck my dick I need a hot girl to represent this Uptown shit” (No Limit made a track called “Thug Girls”)
Lyrics from “I Feel”.
“I feel like we taking over the industry fo'' sho I feel like these bitin'' wannabe soldiers already know” (Once again dissing No Limit for being biters and soldiers)
That’s how it all started. No Limit had no options but to reply and they did it with their album “Da 504 Boyz – Godfellaz” with tracks like “Roll Roll” “Thug Girl 2” and “If You Real, Keep it Real”
They used sneak disses back at Cash Money like.
Lyrics from “Roll Roll”
“Ain't no block to hot Me and my niggas bout to open up shop Hot boy nigga grab the glock So me and my niggas we can sell our rocks” (Lil Wayne released an album called “The Block is Hot”)
Lyrics from “Thug Girl 2”
“I only fuck with thug girls when I'm on tha block and I don't mess with no hoes that say they hot”
(Dissing back at Cash Money for making the “Hot Girls” track and calling themselves Hot Boyz)
Lyrics from “If You Real, Keep it Real”
“Now if you real, keep it real But if you fake, then you phony Nigga Go join the navy, You can't fuck with this army” (Cash Money been saying that they are in the navy)
It didn’t stop there! Albums from No Limit like C-Murders – Trapped in Crime and Mr Marcelo – Brick Livin contained songs with disses to Cash Money. Cash Money retaliated back with tracks from Lil Wayne and B.G. In the middle of these releases a group called “Da Wild Boys” showed up, Da Wild Boys released a compilation called “Time for da real” that had numerous disses towards Cash Money; but the strange thing with that releases was that some people from No Limit like Krazy, Short Circuit, and more appeared on it under different names. The famous track from that albums was “Drop that soulja rag” by Sporty T. That track dissed Juvenile and they even made a video of it.
As far as I know the beef was strictly on wax. To my knowledge there haven’t been any fights or stab outs on the streets. The only rumours I heard was that C-Murder was going at a Cash Money party but wasn’t let in by the security. I also heard that Juvenile’s and Mystikal’s bodyguards got in to a fight.
Well after those albums the beef seemed to go to an end. The Hot Boys left Cash Money Records due to money disagreement and No Limit kinda faded away so there where no need to keep on dissin them. The turning point however was when C-Murder released his compilation album “Tru Dawgs” on one track called “Betya” he dissed Juvenile, Mystikal and Cash Money with lyrics like.
“I don't think you wanna mess wit Tru ya lil child Why would a nigga call himself Juvenile Like Benny Hill, we slap kids in the head I bet ya scary ass still piss in the bed I'm New Orleans baby, you sweeter than honey This Tru Records city nigga fuck Cash Money I'm C, C-P-3, uptown G I fuck with UNLV, Lil Ya and Tec-G I'm a bad ass Miller boy, a killer boy Get them sea man shoes and put yo ass in a river boy And all those girls that left No Limit on bad terms Keep it up and we gon plant you like earthworms Mystikal (Mystikal), you da hoe Yeah I heard you got fucked before And if anybody out there don't like what I said Let it be known my favourite color is red (blue)”
C Murder mentioned their names when he dissed them. Something that No Limit or Cash Money hadn’t done during their whole beef. After That track no one has replied or made a comment about it.
Jaz-O Vs. Jay-Z
When Jay-Z was still up-and-coming, he guested on another rapper/producer’s track, “Hawaiian Sophie,” which propelled him into fame. The rapper was Jaz-O, then known as Big Jaz the Originator. The track was on the album Word to the Jaz. Since then, Jay-Z has featured Jaz on his first album (on the track “Bring it On,” produced by Premier and featuring Sauce Money) and Vol 2 Hard Knock Life (on “Nigga What, Nigga Who”) as well as taken beats for Rap Game/Crack Game, the remix of In My Lifetime and superhit Ain’t No Nigga.
While Jay-Z, Big Jaz and Sauce Money started off rapping as a collective, things soon turned sour. When Damon “Dame” Dash met the Marcy rhymers and offered to sign them, Sauce and Jaz had their doubts, and Jaz was suspicious of the amount of money he was offered. However, Jay was apparently fine with the whole situation; according to Jaz, Jigga may have been offered something more than the other two. Jaz refused to let Dame manage him, and when Jay hit it big and started making his rounds, Jaz-O was nowhere to be found.
Jaz had gone down South to get out of the rap game for a while, but still saw Jay-Z and Dame sometimes. So when he decided to get back into the game, Jaz went to Jay; however, Jigga refused to be of much help. Starting out on his own, Jaz put together a crew (Immobilarie) and put out the record, Kingz County, featuring Jay-Z on only one song.
According to Jaz, he’d had to press Jay for six weeks to get the one verse for the track, “Let’s Go,” which also featured Sareefah and vocals from Beyonce. During this time, he would offer Jay-Z beats and songs, which Jigga would ignore, making Jaz feel like Jay wasn’t trying to fuck with his music. Shortly after the record came out, Jay-Z took his verse from Let’s Go and put it on Ja Rule’s Always On Time Remix. Then, in an interview with the Source during the height of the Jay-Z/Nas conflict, Jaz didn’t really defend Jigga at all.
Shortly after the release of Kingz County, the record Marcyville Murder Remix (Jay-Z with Geda K), appeared with Geda taking obvious shots at Jaz (Bitches and bitch niggas tryinna ride against homie/So fuck them and the originator of Sophie). The record shocked the rap world, and garnered a release from Jaz called Ova. This was countered by Jaz-Ho, a recording session by Jay-Z, Young Gunz and Freeway over the “I Get High” beat, which Jaz then retaliated to with the “Nothin’” freestyle. After that both parties apparently stopped making records. Jaz-O has also done two or three interviews on the beef, claiming Jay-Z only did songs with Biggie to try and outshine him on wax and that he was always stingy with his money, even trying to get Jaz’s 10% of Nigga What, Nigga Who.
During the middle of the low-profile verbal war, former Immobilarie member Dibiase dissed Big Jaz on wax, saying he betrayed everyone around him and couldn’t get a buzz, so he tried to ruin Jay-Z to get fame. Jay has never commented on the beef, except to promote Jaz’s album and video at the end of the song Jaz-Ho, cluelessly saying “I guess that’s what you’re doing this for.”
Royce da 5'9" Vs. D12
If you were a big fan of Eminem back in 2000, chances are you’ve heard of another Detroit rapper who goes by Royce da 5'9".
Besides the great white hope’s six-man crew D12, he and Royce had formed a duo by the name of Bad Meets Evil. While Em made only a hook appearance on Royce’s first album Rock City, and Nickel Nine only appeared on one track on Eminem’s Slim Shady LP, they were tight around the time of Eminem’s highly publicized signing to Dr. Dre’s Aftermath Records.
On 2001, the Dre album on which Em made his first huge impact on the rap game with Dre’s single Forgot About Dre, Royce wrote a lot of Dre’s verses–a move that should have put him in good with Andre, except that his manager at the time told an interviewer of the ghostwriting. When Royce wouldn’t fire the man, his ties with Dre were severed.
However, he kept on with Eminem, and actually convinced him to sign the rest of D12 (who were feuding with him at the time). After this, though, on DJ Butter’s mixtape track “Don’t Try This at Home” (with D12 and D-Elite), Bizarre spit a diss at the man known as Ryan Montgomery. In response, Royce recorded a diss track to him over the “I’ll Shit on You” beat, but thought better of releasing it.
Reports follow that on the Anger Management Tour, which featured both D12 and D-Elite, Royce wrote the line “Fuck anger management, I need someone to manage my anger.” It’s said that Em took it as a diss; later on the tour, D12 and D-Elite got into a barfight.
At 50 Cent’s release party for GRODT, D12 then released a mixtape on which the first track, entitled Smackdown, was a 5-member diss (Eminem not spitting a verse) to Royce over 50's Back Down beat. Royce retaliated with tracks like Malcom X, featuring his little brother Kid Vishis. The beef clearly got to Ryan, as he became depressed about his cut ties with Eminem and former friend, D12 member Proof; on his second album, Death is Certain, he exhibits a gloomy, insecure and brooding side of himself throughout the record, throwing subliminals at Shady Records and 50 Cent in the process.
Two years after the initial diss tracks were thrown, Royce and Proof had a standoff on a Detroit street, waving guns but (according to them) not threatening each other. The cops rolled up, the two were arrested, and they spent the night in neighboring cells working their problems out peacefully. They recently conducted an interview in the studio, stating they were working on tracks together for each others’ albums. No word has been said on his relationship with Em or the rest of D12, but things look good from this point.
Canibus Vs. Beanie Sigel
This hasn’t really been a big beef but I feel no-one really knows of it. I didnt know until reading about it and listening to the song. This all began when on one of Beanie’s tracks called “Put yo hands up”. This song was originally aimed at Jadakiss but in one line He spits “I rock bells like L, I ain’t Canibus nigga”. Bis took this by offence. Bis did not respond till Beanie did another thing. Beanie was always a big Canibus fan and use to always say Bis won but after he dissed Canibus he changed his mind and said LL. Canibus was offended by all the things which happened and released “Who ownz you” Bis rips him and takes shot at everything. One thing which comes up in the song and most feel is his secret motive is Rocafella and Jay-z. Bis have taken shots at this on his album C’ true Hollywood stories track “I gotta story to tell.” Canibus has admitted to not liking Jay-z and some people feel it is a diss towards him by dissing a signed artist of the same label.
Beanie Sigel has not yet replied
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LL Cool J Vs. Canibus
LL Cool J (as everyone knows) is one of the most established rappers in the Hip Hop game. He has released numerous albums, singles, he has featured on many Soundtracks, starred on guest appearances etc. You get the picture.
LL was finishing off his auto-biographical album 'Phenomenon' and decided to make a track called '4,3,2,1' this would be, without a doubt, one of the best tracks on the album. He had lined up a star studed line of rappers; Redman, Method Man, DMX (who had been working in Hip Hop for a while but was pretty unknown at the time) and Canibus. Back then, Canibus was a rapper of whom LL envied. Canibus' lyrics were amazing, he could include intellectual phrases, messages, multi-syllable words all into his freestyles making him a must for this track.
So, it was set. LL invited the group to a recording studio to rhyme on the track. Up first was Redman, then Method Man, DMX and finally Canibus. Once the group had left LL listened to the verses. When he got to Canibus' verse he encountered (what he thought) a verse which insulted him. It referred to his status and his tattoo (a mic on his arm). LL phoned Canibus and confronted him, Canibus stated that it wasn't an insult but LL managed to convince Canibus that LL would change his verse if Canibus would. Canibus came back into the studio and recorded a brand new verse.
A while later the track was released. Canibus' verse was changed but LL's verse was altered and now managed to show to the world that LL was higher than Canibus by dissing him on the track. The track was later released and Canibus heard it, then the period of realisation and revenge kicked in. And for the '4,3,2,1' video, Canibus shot his part separately (after they all were done). LL didn't include it into the video until 2-3 months later.
Canibus had allegedly already been verbally attacked by Redman but took no notice. Canibus wasn't pleased with LL, and along with Mike Tyson and Wyclef produced the dis-track '2nd Round Knockout.' This track was produced by Wyclef, featured Mike Tyson and had Canibus insulting everything that LL was known for.
The track '2nd Round Knockout' insulted LL's family, his TV show, his body, his attitude and basically it insulted him. With lines like "I'll kick you in the groin, hit you in the head, stick you for your Van Guard award infront of your moms, your first, second and third born," "Frontin' like a drug free role model you disgust me I know niggas that see you smoke weed recently."
The whole of the Hip Hop community were both shocked and engrosed in this beef, they sat back and watched it progress.
For the 'Bulworth' soundtrack, Dr. Dre was set to do a comeback track with Snoop Dogg, re-forming their original deep Death Row alliance, there were legal problems in clearing this so LL took Snoops place on the track. This track (LL's verse) was said to be his '2nd Round Knockout' comeback, 'Zoom' contained a pretty weak verse by LL, and fans weren't happy with this 'reply.'
'Zoom' wasn't the reply, not in the slightest. LL wasn't content on being insulted on such a wide scale so he produced 'The Ripper Strikes Back' a track which was a retaliation towards Canibus. In this track LL insulted Canibus (not as much as Canibus insulted him). He also insulted Wyclef and lastly Mike Tyson. They all received a verbal attack.
Canibus made various appearances after 'The Ripper Strikes Back,' and he wasn't all that bothered. All LL had said basically was the Canibus were things like; "49lbs and trying to be a mobster, "You know you watch the sitcom nigga stop lying" nothing which really could be taken as too offensive. The funny thing is that on 'The Ripper Strikes Back,' LL keeps saying as a sort of chorus "Can-I-Bus ? Yes you can!."
However, the other two parties involved in '2nd Round Knockout' were offended. Wyclef had been referred to as "that Bob Marley impostor" and various other things. Wyclef decided that he would retaliate with 'What's Clef Got To Do With It ?' (later released as 'What's Clef') this track wasn't as powerful as Canibus' but still enabled Clef to defend himself.
Canibus now has a tattoo on his arm of a mic with a fist around it, on the knuckles of the fist are the numbers : 4,3,2,1.
Onto Mike Tyson, he had a range of insults thrown towards him. "Heard that convicted rapist on the record too, straight out of jail ass cheeks still black and blue." Tyson received (in my opinion) the largest offensive amount of insults.
On LL’s side, for a long while a kid from Philadelphia named Meddafore has made a dis-cut towards Canibus entitled ‘Lightwork,’ the track has been circulating around the underground for a while now.
More Canibus beef problems include one with Queen Latifah, during a freestyle a while ago Canibus is said to have upset her in some way, he can’t go back to Jersey due to death threats. Another artist, Truck Turner got involved (who is down with BDP) with the Canibus dis-track entitle ‘Canibitch’ the track is produced by a guy named Domingo and as of yet Canibus has kept quiet towards Truck Turner, although it is pretty much unknown why Truck Turner got involved.
There are/were a lot of rumours surrounding an artist called Headkrak. Headkrak is down with Canibus and Wyclef and rumours circulated that he created a dis-track to Meddafore (the artist who dissed Canibus). These rumours were put forth to Headkrak, in actual fact there was no dis-track. Headkrak is down with Canibus but doesn’t want to get involved in this beef.
LL Cool J has unfortunately retired, so it's unlikely we'll hear anymore replies from him, but along with 'Lightwork,' an emcee named Mr Phace has come out with a reply to Canibus' '2nd Round Knockout,' the track is called 'You Wanna Battle,' it attacks Canibus in many ways including an assault of his track entitled 'How We Roll' (originally entitled 'Niggaz We Roll With'), and talks about how he wanted a reply so this is it. The beef seems over with LL, but will Canibus be replying to Meddafore and Mr Phace and Truck Turner?
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Death Row Records Vs. DPG
Fans of early 90’s West Coast rap will know of the vintage Death Row duo, the Dogg Pound, made up of best friends Kurupt and Daz. After the collapse of the label and the industrial black listing of the West Coast hip-hop scene in 1996 and early 97, the Dogg Pound left their parent label along with most of its best-selling artists.
For a few years everything was fine between former label mates Kurupt, Daz, singer Nate Dogg, Snoop Dogg and Soopafly (who, due to legal red tape, formed a collective group called Dogg Pound Gangstas). Kurupt dropped his 1998 debut solo album in the double disc Kuruption! and generally got on well. According to Dr Dre collaborator Scott Storch, Kurupt was the one member of the crew always against going back to Death Row. In fact, the only former inmate to leave the label before him had been Nate Dogg; Kurupt left, then Daz. While Snoop was still on the label, Kurupt acted as peace maker between the Doggy Dogg and Daz Dilly, until finally the final member of DPG left DR.
Then questions about Kurupt returning to the label started to arise. While Daz was against it, he and Kurupt had talked about it, and Kurupt even said “No matter what, we’ll still be friends” (XXL interview).
But when, in 2002, Kurupt decided to return to the label, his crewmates were not happy. They started throwing disses at each other, beginning with Daz. Kurupt had expressed regret for the beef, stating he was upset about breaking off friendships with Daz and Nate Dogg (although not so much Snoop Dogg, and even less so Soopafly). The disses to Kurupt and Death Row, and whoever worked with them, continued, if less so after Daz’s move to SoSo Def.
DR labelmates of Kurupt that participated included Crooked I, who has since left the label and shouted out Daz and Snoop for possible future projects; Danny Boy, Eastwood, and former DR affiliate (current G-Unit member) Spider Loc.
Then, three years later in 2005, both parties shocked disconsolate fans around the nation with a “West Coast peace summit” in which West Coast artists of every level and from every area--Kurupt and the DPG included--got together and deaded their beefs amongst each other. While Danny Boy and Eastwood have yet to comment, they have presumably squashed their respective beefs; Spider Loc is involved with G-Unit, which the DPG and are currently dissing, and as such his position is unclear.
Kurupt and Daz are currently in the studio working on the upcoming album Daz:Kurupt, Kurupt: Daz; the extended-family version of the DPG, the Dogg Pound Gangsta Clique (which includes the DPG plus MCs Lady of Rage, RBX, and MC/producer Warren G) are also planning a group album, and Snoop, Kurupt and Daz are on the How the West was One tour with Aftermath’s Dr Dre protégé The Game.
While Suge Knight has yet to comment officially on the reunion, Snoop has insisted his former benefactor is fully behind the peace movement.
MC Eiht Vs. DJ Quik
The beef between these two Compton native rappers was to be one of the most famous and longest on going beef’s in rap history. There are two different sides or version how the beef started. But the origin is an underground tape that Dj Quik did in his early days in the rap game. According to one version, Quik called out CMW (Compton’s Most Wanted), NWA and other rappers with crip background in a song in a negative way (Quik himself a blood). The other of the two version is that Quik gave shout outs to CMW (MC Eiht lead rapper in the group) and the shoutout was misinterpret by MC Eiht as a diss. When Eiht heard about the tape he recorded the diss tracks “Duck sick” and “Def wish” on his and Compton’s most wanted albums; “It's a Compton Thang” and “Straight Checkn'em” both albums released in the early 90’s. Quik was quick to reply to the diss on his solo album “Way 2 Fonky” with the track with the same name as the album, calling out MC Eihts disses as lame. The same track was also recorded as a video. Quik also dissed Eiht on his shout out on the end of the album. MC Eiht didn’t take long to reply once again hooking up with his partnas from CMW (Compton’s most wanted) on the album” Music to Driveby”. Music to driveby consists a numerous of disses towards Quik including the track “Dead Men Tell No Lies” giving it to Quik in a hard way. For a year or two it seemed that the beef was calming down with Eiht dropping the last word. But in 94 Quik dropped the bomb, backed up by Deathrow records on the "Murder was the case" soundtrack. Quik came out with the track "Dollars n sense". The track became soon a classic diss track, dropping lines like
“Givin your set a bad name wit your misspelled name E-I-H-T, now should I continue Yeah you left out the G cause the G ain't in you”.
Quik also used the track on his solo album “Safe & Sound” that came out the same year. Safe & Sound also includes the track “Let Yo Havit “ on the track Quik tries to explain in a less nice way that he didn’t diss MC Eiht and CMW with his underground tape. 1994 was also the same year that MC Eiht released his first solo album called “We come strapped” once again dissin Quik on “def wish III”. The album was in many people’s opinions Eiht’s best solo project yet. Eiht kept on dissin Quik on his second solo album Death Threatz. Quik seemed to be tired of the beef and on his fourth solo album” Rhythm-Al-Ism “ Quik reached out to Eiht on the track “You’s a ganxta” suggesting that the two do a track together. Eiht and Quik recorded the track together but to my knowledge it was never released. It’s kind of ironic that these two rappers from the same city (Compton) came up about the same time on the commercial music scene , just after the NWA wave in early 90’s became enemies. Style wise Dj Quik and MC Eiht couldn’t be more different Eiht with his dark beats and heavy bass-sound and Quik with his smooth more funky style.
There are rumours that the two parties collided at a night club in a massive brawl and sadly one man died in it, but the beef is now days squashed and the two Compton legends have made peace with each other.
Tim dog Vs. the westcoast rapscene
The year was 1991 gold chains and jerry curls was the fashion. NWA had two successful albums out “N.W.A and the Posse” and “Straight Outta Compton” bringing some light and attention to the westcoast rap scene. Out of nowhere came Tim dog dissin not only NWA but pretty much the whole westcoast rapscene. On the track “Fuck Compton” on his solo album "Penicillin on Wax" Tim speaks his mind on the westcoast rap scene with lyrics like;”
All you suckers that rif on the West Coast I'll dis and spray your ass like a roach Ya think you're cool wit your curls and your shades”.
"Fuck Compton" was not the only diss track on “Penicillin on Wax “on “Step to Me” throws Tim lyrical lead at DJ Quik and all NWA members (except Ice Cube who had left the group at that time). Many westcoast rappers felt offended by Tim Dog, a rapper that they didn’t even know came out from nowhere and started dissin them for no special reason. So you can say that it was open season on Tim Dog for the coming years. Tweedy bird loc from dangerous records recorded the track "fuck south Bronx" in 92 as a direct reply to Tim’s track "Fuck Compton". Tweedy was not the only one to go after Tim. Snoop and Dr Dre teamed up on the classic track "Fuckin wit dre-day" from the masterpiece "The Chronic" with lines like;
it seems like Play, with my bone would ya Timmy It seems like you're good for makin jokes about your jimmy But here's a jimmy joke about your mama that you might not like I heard she was the 'Frisco dyke But fuck your mama, I'm talkin about you and me Toe to toe, Tim M-U-T
Compton native MC Eiht and CMW joined up to diss Tim on the track “Who's XXXXXXX Who”. Verbally attacking both Tim and his neighbourhood. Dj Quik who got personal dissed by Tim fired back in a big way with the track “way 2 funky”with lyrics like;
Tim Cause we ain't goin out and we ain't stuck in that old school shit That boring flavor that just don't hit Cause this is ninety-two, and yes yo' style is through And if your record ain't sellin well fool I thought you knew
In 1993 was Tim back with his second solo album “Do or Die” toning is style down a bit maybe caught up a bit by the huge publicity his debut album had. Don’t get me wrong Tim kept the same hardcore style but he doesn’t call out names as frequently as he did on “Penicillin on Wax on“. Tim also recorded a single called “Bitch With a Perm” callin Snoop a biter of Slick Ricks style;
Yeah, kid, this business ain't big enough for two dogs So let the battle begin Haha, but you don't want it coz I'll end ya career You bit ya style from Slick Rick”.
I am unsure what time this single was released if it was before or after Snoop dissed Tim on "fucking wit dre day". I heard later on that Tim was surprised over the huge reaction that his disses caused and that he did it partly to get a record deal after being rejected numerous times. I also heard that Tim lived in LA and worked with westcoast rappers so you can say his aggressive attitude towards westcoast rap/hiphop has changed. Still you can say that Tim’s disses to the westcoast rapscene caused tension and a lot of people felt dissed . You can also say that Tim’s diss was a factor to the beginning of the west vs east beef. The westcoast vs eastcoast conflict or beef that would later escalate in the Tupac Biggie beef and Westside connections debut album Bow Down.
Yukmouth/Luniz Vs. Master P
Who is the real Icecream man?
It all started in 1994 when Luniz did a track called “Ice cream” man with Dru Down. On Dru Down’s solo album "Explicit Game". Yukmouth and Knumskull (Luniz) used the word ice-cream as streetslang for drugs and Ice-cream man as slang for drug dealer. A couple years later Master P dropped his solo album called Ice-cream man on No Limit records. Master P used the same slang as Luniz did years before on the tracks “Mr. Ice-cream man” and “Selling cream”. P also used the same Ice cream man jingle that Luniz used. Yukmouth of Luniz claimed that it was just Master-P’s album “Ice-cream man” that blew up his career and built up his No limit imperium and guess on who’s expense.
Another factor to the beef could be that Yukmouth an oldtime friend of Tupac Shakur thought that Master P was biting Tupac’s style . In other words when Master P used Tupac’s name in tracks, Yukmouth felt as a old friend of Tupac that he had to speak up. Speak up he did on the track “Sad millionaire” taken from The Luniz second album called "Lunitik Muzik". Yukmouth kept up his dissing spree dissing Master P again this time on his own solo album "Thugged Out : The Albulation" with the track “still ballin” featuring The Outlawz and Tupac(old lyrics).The track has the same name as an old Tupac track and Yukmouth points out on the track that Master Pis joking Pac’s shit. In the year 2000 Yukmouth teamed up with Sacramento veteran C-bo on the track “spray yourself” once again taking shots at Master P Yukmouth Kept on dissin P on his second solo album: "Thug Lord: The New Testament" with the track “Regime Killers 2001 and to say that Yukmouth is shy in his lyrics is an understatement with lines like: Mash ya, boy, I hate Master P like Pastor Troy”. On Yukmouth latest album Godzilla he once again throws lyrical blows at P and his label. On the track “Somebody gone die 2 nite”.
Master P has as far as I know not dissed Yukmouth back out loud in name but he has done tracks about playa haters and how the they hate on his success. As far I know the beef between these two rappers has maintained strictly lyrical.
So judge it yourself: did Master P copy the Luniz style and did he profit on Tupac after his death or are Yukmouth just jealous of Master P’s success and looking for media attention and publicity with his numerous disses towards Master P
Death Row Records Vs. Ruthless Records
From the late 80's to early 90's, one West Coast crew reigned supreme: NWA. Somewhat of a West Coast gansta rap answer to Public Enemy, the 5-man group consisted of Ice Cube, Eazy E, Dr Dre, MC Ren and DJ Yella (plus honorary member, The DOC). With the group's enormous success, it wasn’t long before they had a home at Eazy’s new pet label Ruthless Records.
Cube was the first to leave for financial reasons, going on to start successful group and solo projects. While he and the rest of the group–including Dre–traded diss tracks, it wasn’t long before DOC and his then-bodyguard/manager/acquaintance Suge Knight discovered that Eazy and his own manager Jerry Heller were indeed stealing money from the group, Dre included.
When Eazy refused to let Dre off his Ruthless contract, Suge “insisted” on it, probably using strongarm methods as is his style. Soon Dre was free with no place to go, and he and Suge started up Death Row Records. From there, Dr. Dre set up the battle between Death Row and Ruthless by lacing his entire breakthrough debut with disses toward Eazy. In retaliation, Eazy released the diss album “It’s On (Dr Dre) 187um Killa.”
Also joining in the beef were DR labelmates Snoop Dogg and the Dogg Pound (Daz and Kurupt), and Ruthless’s Gangsta Dresta and BG Knoccout, as Snoop threw subliminals at Eazy all through The Chronic, and the Dogg Pound dissed Gangsta Dresta and Eazy’s new signees Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (who never responded) on tracks “Murder Was the Case” and “Dogg Pound Gangstas,” respectively. Knoccout and Dresta where both featured on 187um Killa, and replied to Murder with “Dogg Pound Killaz.”
After this, Eazy and Dre began contact again, trying to work their beefs out; however, they could never agree on their managers, Jerry Heller and Suge Knight. The bad blood went on until Eazy’s death in 1995 when he died of AIDS–a rumor even surfaced a year or so ago that Daz had sent the AIDS-infected groupie to Eazy’s room one night, though when or if this was done is unclear.
Today, though Ruthless is defunct (Their biggest act, the Bone Thugs, discovered Eazy’s practice of skimming money was still going on and left), producer Big Hutch 187em still accuses Dre of stealing some of his work.
Tha Realest Vs. Ja Rule
Tha Realest - undoubtedly the biggest Tupac Shakur "clone" in the rap industry to date has lived off beef for almost his entire career. Making a name for himself on Deathrow Records compilations such as 'Too Gangsta For Radio' and 'Chronic 2000' kept his name fresh...in which he used the promotion to further his differences with other "biters" in the game. First using No Limit as a means to get his name well known for biting 2Pac, he then focused his attention on another rapper that has certain similarities to Pac - Ja Rule.
Ja Rule has obviously been influenced by Tupac in many ways - the bald head, the tattoos, the bandanas, the lyrical comparision...and Tha Realest, at some point, took offense to this. While Tha Realest has went as far to say he "represents Tupac" and "rides for Makaveli's souljas", he considered Ja Rule to be the exact opposite of what Pac represented. Rule rapped on Pac beats, and in some instances rapped Pac's lyrics almost word-for-word. So of course, the first to throw a diss was obviously Tha Realest. On the song "Check Out My Melody", released in 2002, Tha Realest throws lyrical jabs at Rule ("A Ja Rule killa..how the fuck you thought you gettin away with that? rappin on Pac beats, we knowin you wack") and starts off the track with an excerpt of Ja Rule basically claimin that he's Pac and sayin he'll take it to the streets any time. Backed up by his Omerta Ent. imprint, Tha Realest continued to throw disses towards Rule on songs with Ja-nemesis C-Bo, and on other solo tracks. Although Rule never responded (it's most likely that he doesn't consider him competition), Tha Realest continued to diss Rule threw 2004, and it's likely the beef's still pending.
So is Tha Realest correct in saying he's standing up for Pac and exposing Ja Rule, or is Ja Rule just another artist influenced by 2Pac? You be the judge. But it's certainly a beef that West Coast rap fans are aware of, and hasn't been resolved yet.
Rumours that the beef between these two power factors from the westcoast started when B-Real played a demo of the Cypress Hill album “Temples of boom” for Ice Cube. According to B-Real Ice Cube took the hook from the track “Throw Your Set In The Air" and used it in the track "Friday" from the soundtrack under the same name. Cypress Hill started this lyrical warfare with the track “No rest for the wicked” from the final and remastered version of “Temples of boom”. Dissin Ice Cube on more than one level with lyrics like;
I got Cube melting in a Tray, Pulling up his card & fucking up his good day!”.
Soon after “Temples of boom” was released Ice Cube recorded a diss back with his partners WC and Mack 10 (Westside Connection) on the group’s first album “Bow Down". On the track “King of the hill”Ice Cube teams up with Mack 10 and disses Cypress Hill as a direct reaction to the track “No rest for the wicked”.” King of the hill was not the only diss track towards Cypress Hill on the album on the track “cross em out and put a k” bust WSC lyrics like;
B-Real and Miss Muggs is like Hollywood bitches From the niggas I know in the streets I run through Swear to god bitch,real it ain't one dog and no(body) So watch what you say,who ya talkin bout,ya tweakin And keep hogs out'cha mouth when ya bitch ass is speakin I'm sick wit it,cappin'cha dome till I hit it This Westside Connection,Cypress know they can't fuck with it
When Cypress hill heard that Mack 10 had joined up with Ice Cube it caused more heat to the now on going beef. Cypress Hill didn’t take long to respond with the track “Ice Cube Killa” or the tracks other name”Fuck Westside connection” which an unreleased track with the same beat as WSC track "king of the hill". Cypress also got hold of a rapper that sounded exactly as Cube to rap on the track so it sounds like Cube is dissin himself on the track, when in reality it is a completely different rapper. Ice Cube’s cousin Kam also got involved in the feud when he felt dissed by Cube. Kam hailing from the east side of Los Angeles felt dissed when Cube was rappin about the Westside on bow down. Kam also dissed Cube on the track "Whoop Whoop" produced by DjPooh. Rumour has that one of Kam’s homie’s beat down Cube on a party and snatched his Westside connection chain. The same chain ending up in B-Real’s hands later on. The beef is now squashed but not totally forgotten and it’s uncertain if the two clicks’ is going to be as tight as there were before the beef.
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Jay-Z Vs. Terror Squad
Back in 1997 and 98, in the middle of New York’s second stint at the top of popular rap, two crews reigned supreme: Jay-Z’s Roc-A-Fella Records, and Big Pun’s Terror Squad. While TS’s Fat Joe claims to have been close to putting an album out with the late Biggie, TS and the Roc apparently had some bad blood.
Reports are fuzzy; what is certain is that there was an incident at an NY club known as Carbon, now called Exit. From there, most is speculation. Some claim the incident was between a TS member and an acquaintance of Jigga’s, not the man himself--and some would say it was Jay-Z, Dame Dash, Sauce Money and possibly other crewmembers against anywhere from a mob of TS affiliates to simply Pun, Joe and former member Cuban Link.
According to the more action-packed story, someone from the Roc got drunk and ran off at the mouth. Sauce Money or Jay-Z was hit in the head with a bottle by Cuban, while Joe and Pun pulled a razor and a gun, respectively, on Jay. Lines from Pun’s song 100% would seem to substantiate this claim:
Don't let the liquor fool you, cause I'll stick it to you Somethin sharp to the heart, or somethin big to move you The Desert or the shottie, whateva you the body that chose to be the dumb nigga at the party Too much Bacardi started speakin dumb Then you tried to snuff Joe - must have been Puerto Rican rum That's the hardcore, two years a sophomore Takes years to earn a pair of Terror Squad balls
As well as the line "There'll be no pardon/next time I catch you at the Carbon"
Even years after Pun’s death, Jay and Joey have been known to throw shots at each other. The most recent being on the 04 hit Lean Back, when Joey Crack (doesn’t) speak on the Rucker, referencing a truce-attempt basketball game between the Roc and TS, which Roc-A-Fella ended up forfeiting. Then on the remix to Kanye West’s Diamonds (From Sierra Leone), Jay replies, “Guess who ain’t gon Crack--pardon me, I had to laugh at that.”
The beef is as yet unresolved, however it seems as though Jay-Z and Joey are the only parties still carrying on the bad blood.
Nas Vs. Notourious BIG
In many hip-hop beefs things are highly publicized, the thinking being this will help sell records. While this works sometimes, and leads to pain and death others, many beefs are kept under wraps; strictly behind-the-scenes, so much so that many fans won’t know about the beef until dissing erupts or people start talkin years later. One of these beefs would have to be one-time New York Kings, Nas and Notorious BIG.
In this particular conflict, it was a lot of little things adding up. The way Nas tells it they were cool once, but it’s said the best bump heads at the top. As explained in the song “Last Real Nigga Alive,” he was friends with both Raekwon and Biggie, but the two of them didn’t get along--as Raekwon had the skit with Ghostface “Shark Niggaz” on OB4CL, accusing Big of biting Nas’ album cover (although Meth was cool with Big, who also referred to himself as 'Frank Wza' once, and has done a song with Raekwon and a couple other Wu members called Stop the Breaks).
Nas also apparently got jealous of Biggie and Jay-Z coming up under his nose threatening to take his spot. Before Jay came in the game Nas and Big had tossed subliminals, as in the lines "there’s only room for one king in new york" and Biggie on Victory with the line, "Your fam/Destiny lays in my hands, gat lays at my waist" which is a reference to Nas’ daughter Destiny; plus Nas on the Lost Tapes saying "shoot the crown off the so-called king" or something to that effect.
After that, when Jigga (who at the time was a huge Nas fan) called Nas to be in his Dead Presidents video with AZ and Biggie playing monopoly with real money; but when Nas found out he wasn't being payed for the sample, he refused. He was also apparently sore that Big would guest on Jay's album as evidenced when later on, Nas would say "my first album had no famous guest appearances" when he was even supposed to be ON the song as well. So, Big dissed him for that and made the song "Kick in the Door" which Nas has admitted was about him. On a later album, he writes imaginary letters to Pac and Big in heaven and says to biggie something like "wasn't it fun to diss each other to see how we'd respond."
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Eminem Vs. Cage
Eminem is undoubtedly the nation’s most popular and successful crazy, whiteboy MC to date. However not even many of his fans know of the slew of other of drugged-out triphop, white, horrorcore rappers, and the static Em had at one point with some of these MCs.
The brunt of the beef was aimed at Cage, who claimed Em stole his style. While they sound very similar, it’s indeterminate who stole whose style, if anyone. The problems began around the release of the Slim Shady EP in 1998. Following this, Em disses him on the song “Role Model,” with the lines “Bought Cage’s tape/Opened it and dubbed over it,” then on the freestyle “Drastic Measures” with lines like “I’m pickin up Cage’s sister early,” “Went on stage and sprayed Cage wit Agent Orange,” and “Wiped my ass wit his page in the Source.” There is also another freestyle wherein he says “I write a rhyme a day/ So it's no wonder how come your whole album is soundin like a bunch of shit that I would say (CAGE!)”
The Eastern Conference rapper quickly responded with diss tracks like “And So Kiddies…” dissing “Tired rhyme styles from Detroit, Michigan.” There is a rare freestyle called “Bitch Lady” where he refers to Em’s alter ego Slim Shady, and a track “The Illest Four Letter Word” where he raps “I heard some blonde bitch walking through New York looking for Cage/ I’ll stab you in the face/ Ten times in the same place.” Finally there exists a spoof of “Still Dre” called “Still Cage.”
Both participants have neither continued the beef or resolved it at this point.
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Death Row Records Vs. Bad Boy Entertainment
The heated beef between Death Row and Bad Boy came from the result of one death at a birthday party for Jermaine Dupri. Jake “Tha Violator” Robles was shot dead at the event and is seen to many as the death that sparked the East-West rivalry. Robles happened to be a close friend and bodyguard for Death Row CEO Suge Knight, who himself was getting a infamous name in the rap game and was said by many to be “The wrong nigga to fuck with”. At the moment Robles was shot, Knight was being detained by Bad Boy CEO Sean “Puffy” Combs, who became the one to blame for the incedent in Suge's eyes. “You Had something to do with this, didn’t you” were the words from Suge right before his abrupt departure from the party. Tensions flared with the coverage angle the media gave the story. The suggestion of a direct East vs. West incident sparked even more unrest from both coast's artists and fans.
Fast forward a few months to the 1995 Source Awards. The event itself was held in the Paramount theater in New York City right at the time East-West tensions were just starting to brew. It even seemed that the event was set up to be a Bad Boy vs. Death Row night, with half the main performances by the Death Row artists: Snoop Doggy Dogg, Dr. Dre, Nate Dogg, Kurupt, Rage, Sam Sneed, DJ Quik, while the other half Bad Boy artists: Notorious B.I.G., Puff Daddy, Craig Mack, Faith, Total, and Junior M.A.F.I.A.. The NYC audience too was getting in on the action by booing every West performer and presenter that went on stage. The first ones to be fed up with this treatment were Snoop Doggy Dogg, who went off on the audience, and Dat Nigga Daz who collectively stated to the audience, “From the bottom of my heart, ya’ll can eat this dick”. It seemed like it could get no worse... That is until the climax where Suge Knight got on stage and bluntly said, "If anyone wants to come to a record company were they don't want the executive producer singin on the records, Dancin all up in the videos come to Death Row." This of course was a direct insult to Puffy who was known for appearing in certain Bad Boy artists videos as well as having adlibs on albums. Right after that Suge had one more message: "I just want to take the time to let Tupac know that we are down for you and will ride for you." Perhaps a taste of things to come? Puffy later in the show tried to make tensions at-ease when he praised Death Row for their work in the industry. It was to no avail.
The signing heard all around the rap world. After over half a year behind bars rapper/actor Tupac Shakur was released on bail, which was paid in full by Suge Knight. Knight then signed Shakur to a 3 album deal on his Death Row label. A year earlier Shakur was shot 5 times, and initially blamed Bad Boy lead artist The Notorious B.I.G. for the set up. With Biggie on Bad Boy and now Death Row’s newest acquisition in 2Pac, the Death Row-Bad Boy beef was set to move from a petty dispute to all out war. In February 2Pac released All Eyez on Me, rap's first double CD. Though it had no direct disses to Bad Boy, it would be Pac's official initiation to Tha Row.
In the following months a rap summit was going to be held in order to settle this beef. Suge and Death Row attended, but Puffy and the Bad Boy camp did not. Rumors of Bad Boy's no-show ran ramped. Stories of Puffy's sheer terror of Suge, or possible death threats coming from Death Row's side if Bad Boy were to attend, were all gossip when it came to the surprising absence of Bad Boy. After all it was Puffy who all this time only spoke of peace and wanting to settle the dispute. To add to that, a confrontation at the Soul Train awards where the two camps faced off (only flexing, nothing else), and another Rap Summit that would be held to no avail. This time Suge would for the first time step in to defuse the situation (in his own way). "There's nothing between Death Row and Bad Boy, or me and Puffy", claimed Suge, "Death Row sells volume - so how could Puffy be a threat to me, or Bad Boy be a threat to Death Row?" Not too long afterward, 2pac released a maxi-single for “How Do U Want It” containing a b-side with the most venomous diss song ever in Hi-Hop: “Hit Em Up”. The song dissed the whole Bad Boy Camp and became the first strike from the Death Row's side on wax.
Throughout 1996, 2Pac and Death Row would continue it’s verbal assault on Bad Boy (as well as other NY artists) in what the media would perceive as an all out war between the West Coast and East Coast hip hop factions. 2Pac and the Death Row camp would flat out diss Bad Boy in certain concert performances, interviews and media events. Bad Boy itself was having trouble pushing its albums as a result of 2Pac’s verbal assaults. B.I.G. and Puffy proposed peace instead of this beef that Pac was overwhelming them with. Puffy would say in many interviews that he just wished the feud between the two camps was over, he wanted peace. 2pac did not accept. 2Pac felt that this was a sign of weakness and that he and Death Row would have to literally lock down both coasts and remold it in their image. Even as far as making a move for East Coast domination with the new label, Death Row East. Suge himself added fuel to the fire by saying Biggie, puffy, Tupac and himself should get a boxing match going. Shakur in the eye of Suge's contest idea, suggested putting on a Pay-Per-View Rap Battle in Atlanta or Chicago between the two camps. Yet and still Bad Boy maintained they only wanted peace and took a backseat to the drama, letting Death Row continue it's rampage unchallenged. Truly the only way to stop Death Row’s rampage was if it was done from within.
2Pac, being the main one perusing the beef, became a target even amongst his fellow label mates. Dr. Dre in June of 1996 left Death Row to start his own label. Snoop Doggy Dogg guest appeared on a NY radio show saying he had nothing to do with Suge and 2Pac’s war and even said he was against it. Both of these actions angered Suge and 2Pac who in turn made accusations of Dre’s sexuality and fortitude. Secret from the public however, was a rumored beef between 2Pac and Snoop. Their have been claims Pac recorded a Hit Em Up version dedicated to Snoop himself. The Death Row camp was at a division among the artists. 2Pac and the Outlawz on one side, while the DPG members on the other. Suge couldn’t take sides at the moment because of the money making potential from both sides of the Death Row division. These actions were not known to the public yet, but would be later on.
The final crushing blow to Death Row’s assault on Bad Boy would not be from Bad Boy, as it hadn’t been throughout the whole beef. It would come from the untimely death of the main voice behind the beef. Tupac Shakur was shot four times while attending a Mike Tyson fight in Las Vegas on September 7th, being the first tragedy resulting from the beef . Shakur and the Death Row camp had been in a scuffle earlier that night with a member of the Southside Crips (Rivals of MOB Piru Bloods which the Death Row Records staff mainly consisted of), and later would be shot allegedly by the same Crip that the Death Row camp jumped. A week later Tupac passed away in a Las Vegas hospital at the age of 25. In November of that year Death Row would release the final Tupac album containing disses to Bad Boy and other New York rappers under a new name Tupac fashioned for himself: Makaveli. The Makaveli (Ebonics for Italian philosopher Niccolo Machiavelli) album contained harsh words towards the Bad Boy camp, Dr. Dre, Nas, Jay-Z, and even the names of his shooters from 1994. That combined with many would be Machiavellian death-faking messages, made the Makaveli album one of the most controversial albums ever in Hip-Hop. Till this day, 2Pac fans still refer to many alive theories brought on from the Makaveli album.
In 1997 even more tragedy would finally close the Death Row-Bad Boy beef for good. On March 9th in Los Angeles, The Notorious B.I.G. was shot and killed while doing advanced press for his upcoming album “Life After Death”. Both murders remain unsolved, but speculation to the death’s have not gone unheard. An investigation that seemed to lead all the way form LAPD Rampart division to Suge Knight himself, has been one leading theory for the death of B.I.G.. In similar likeness, accusations and conspiracy theories to Pac’s Death include Southside Crip members and a LA Times article fingering B.I.G. as the man pulling the strings for the murder. Whoever was responsible for the murders is irrelevant. The fact that Hip-Hop lost two of it’s greatest artists at such an early age, and over a coast and company is the real issue and monumental tragedy. Perhaps one that Hip Hop will never stop mourning or truly recover from.
Bone Vs. Three 6 mafia, Twista and Do or Die
What have these rappers/groups in common: their high-speed style of rapping that’s what. So a collision was unavoidable when the question came up who was the founder of the style and who copied who. First out was Memphis based rap group Three 6 mafia who felt dissed by Bone Thugs-N-Harmony who called their home city Memphis a bunk ass town in some context. Rumor has it that Three 6 mafia also thought that Bone stool their style of rapping. Three 6 mafia recorded the ep "Live by Yo Rep" in 1995 callin out Bone on the chorus:
“Bone, live by yo rep cause we know you bound to slip When we blast with that mask we gon empty this clip”
The track "Live by Yo Rep" was also on Three 6 mafia first album "Mystic Stylez". Taking Three 6 mafia from an underground level to a bigger audience. Bone busted back on their second group album “Art of War” with tracks like “U Ain't Bone”. On the track Bone throws lyrical heat all them wanna be haters copying Bone’s style. The beef between Bone and Three 6 mafia was relatively short lived and squashed years ago. While Bone Thugs-N-Harmony sold millions of records and making a name for themselves. Rappers from Chicago known for their high-speed tongue twisting style of rapping with act’s like; Twista, Do or Die, Crucial Conflict, and Snypaz didn’t get that much recognition and attention. The origin to the beef between Bone and Twista, Do or Die is unclear to me. One reason could be that Bone on the album "Art of War" throws lyrical blows on numerous tracks to so called biters copying Bones style. Bone does not shout out name on any of the tracks so you can say that they are not exactly addressed directly to anyone specific . Analyze the lyrics yourself on "You ain’t bone" and "Look Into My Eyes"
You ain’t bone: As I look at my shit make history No mystery. Mistook and, nigga That eight-time platinum real How do you feel to the thugs appeal? Make nigga wanna sound like Bone for a record deal Should'a kept it real and quit fronting. Nigga Go round-for-round with the best Nigga, step up and meet your death Fucking with Kray, Little Lay, Biz, Wish, and Flesh Yeah, it's all about survival of the fittest and it's on Nigga, realize, or you die. You bitch ass niggas ain't Bone.
Look Into My Eyes;
What makes a nigga think he can bite my shit and call his shit original? What's worse, tellin' people you made the style we put down three fuckin' years ago
The tracks most have caused some feelings cause Do or Die came out and dissed Bone on their third solo album called "Headz or Tailz" on the track “Bustin Back featuring Lil Chilla from the group Snypaz” with lyrics like;
yo whole gun started killin bitch faster, I hit the stash out get the cash out, I get the gas out, then we mashed out nigga, dash out, mash out, hit the next bitch an shout right now from the Lexus fuck Bone cuz it's on in my city, so stick it, stick it stick it, stick it, bitch now what?
Do or Die was not the only one’s that came after Bone. Another Chicago based rapper Twista gave Bone a bone to pick on the track "Crook County", from his second solo album called "Mobstability".
Lyrics from Crooks County;
The Bone niggas 'bout to get slaughtered and raped I can slow down and audit the tape Y'all bent and all y'all who thought it was fake Now watch (?) on the stage, beef and the rage Die on the first on the month, 'cause it's than the blunt Why would you compete to be doomed, now you gon' see Eazy-E soon Feel the boom of the reprecussion, 'cause the reefer's still rushin' When I reach and start bustin' I'm a Bone Crusher, Crook County or nothin Ain't no bluffin'
The beef between L-Burna (Lazie Bone) and Twista has to my knowledge been crushed since the two did a track together called "Midwest invasion". However strangely Lazie Bone or L-Burna dissed Do or Die on his solo album” Thug by nature” Knowing that Twista runs with Do or Die and they have recorded several tracks together including the hit “po pimp” Lyrics from L-Burna’s track Battlefield;
Throwing your grid that’s how I feel Keep it real or I'll have to kill Fuck them Do or Die niggas Yall bitch ass niggas can't do shit to me Put your fist up and the swords fake ass niggas aint had no victory When I see niggas retreated When you see me I'm heated Hows you fuckin ready to release it Keep it them niggas defeated Bower down motherfuckers better leave it alone I'm bringin the thug world order nigga the war been on bitch.
Most of the beef’s between these groups/rappers have been over who came up with the fast rappin style. With the style issue in center there are no doubts about it that Bone Thugs-N-Harmony hit the bigger audience first with their ep "Creepin on ah Come Up" in 1994. Who really was first with the unique style of rappin is uncertain. I know for a fact that three 6 mafia did underground tapes before getting a record deal and that on Bone’s underground record "Faces of Death" showed that their rap style wasn’t as fast as it now days
Common Vs. Ice Cube
When you say the word “beef”, you don’t necessarily expect to hear the name Common pop up. Nor do you expect the Chicago rapper to be associated in any way with the West Coast legend Ice Cube, but the two did have a fairly high-profile lyrical rivalry in the early to mid 90’s.
In 1994, Common’s classic album Resurrection dropped. One of its most recognized songs was “I Used to Love H.E.R.,” in which he becomes the first rapper to refer to hip-hop as a woman. In the song he mentions the West Coast rap scene, saying:
“But then she broke to the west coast, and that was cool Cause around the same time, I went away to school And I’m a man of expandin, so why should I stand in her way She probably get her money in l.a. And she did stud, she got big pub but what was foul She said that the pro-black, was goin out of style She said, afrocentricity, was of the past So she got into r&b hip-house bass and jazz Now black music is black music and it’s all good I wasn’t salty, she was with the boys in the hood* Cause that was good for her, she was becomin well rounded I thought it was dope how she was on that freestyle shit Just havin fun, not worried about anyone And you could tell, by how her titties hung”
* A reference to the popular 1991 movie Boyz ‘n the Hood, in which Ice Cube starred.
Cube took offense to this seemingly disrespectful talk about his native Coast and the rap scene he had helped create and build, and dissed Common on the record “On Them Thangs,” which sparked Common’s reply “The Bitch in Yoo.” To prevent things from getting more serious, the two agreed to a sit-down with Minister Farrakhan and sorted out their issues.
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Nas Vs. Queensbridge
Is it Nas’ fault that he never seems to get along with rappers from his own hood?
When in 1995, NY duo Mobb Deep released their critically acclaimed Infamous, an appearance from a young Nas fresh off his supernova-scale success with Illmatic seemed to cement QB’s new dominance in the NY rap scene.
On Nas’ second album It Was Written, he not only featured Mobb Deep on a song of his but his new crew, The Firm with fellow QB rapper Cormega and two other NY cats, AZ and Foxy Brown.
When the Firm album dropped a year later, however, Cormega’s spot was filled by another Queensbridge native by the alias of Nature. Mega went on to diss Nas and Nature in the aptly-titled “Fuck Nas and Nature,”stating that he was kicked out of the Firm because he refused to sign a production deal with Steve Stout’s pet label, Trackmasters, on which the Firm album would be released. Recently in Rime magazine, Mega also revealed that he offered to pay Nas a finder’s fee, but the two disagreed on the amount.
Even Nature would have problems with Nas, dissing the former figurehead of QB on the songs “We Ain’t Friends” and “Nas is Not” off his 2000 album For All Seasons; a Nas verse was even removed from the song In Too Deep. Still, Nate was featured on the compilation album QB Finest, which dropped exactly three months later, as was Cormega–probably tracks done before all the beef.
The Mobb and Nas had united for a line of guest appearances culminating in the Finest album, also featuring MC Shan, Nas’ Braveheart crew, Cormega, Nature, Lake, LL Cool J and various other QB rappers. By this time Nas was perceived almost as a part of M-O-B-B; however, in 2001's Stillmatic, Nas sent flames at Nature, Mega and Prodigy on the track Destroy & Rebuild. This sparked a retaliation from Prodigy on the song “RIP Nas,” and a song with Havoc “Point Out the Clowns” dissing both Nas and Jay-Z.
After one Summer Jam, the year Jay-Z dropped his opus in the J/N beef “Takeover,” Nas went on NY station Power 105 and started talking shit about numerous rappers, also taking the time to tell fellow QB rapper N.O.R.E. of CNN (Capone-N-Nore) to step his rap game up, which started their relationship to fluctuating.
After the end of the Jay-Z beef and just before the release of Nas’ latest album Street’s Disciple, Nas did a show that included Prodigy and Nas hugging onstage, squashing their beef and preceeding an eventful 2005. A little later, N.O.R.E. and Nas rekindled their beef with a short scuffle involving a smashed flowerpot, after which the rapper formerly known as Noreaga apologized on the radio.
Up to now, Nature hasn’t maintained a relationship with Nas; Cormega has stated that Nas has reached out to him several times, but Cory is still hesitant about reestablishing a connection, and N.O.R.E. and Nas are presumably still cooling off. However, Nas sent subliminals at Mobb Deep once again due to the Mobb’s recent signing with G-Unit Records, home to Nas’ current nemesis 50 Cent.
No Limit Records Vs. Cash Money Records
How the beef started and ended.
Back in 1998 No Limit was the most popular record label in Rap/hip-hop. With stars like Master P, Mystikal, Snoop Dogg, Silkk The Shocker and many more they took the world by storm and were selling platinum and gold with almost every release. By 1999 people got tired of No Limit and were looking for another label to take over. In Cash Money Records Universal found a number one contender to No Limit. Cash Money Records who where also based in the south. The New Orleans based Cash Money was blowing up the southern underground-scene and was waiting for the right label to give them the push they deserved to make it big time. That label would be Universal Records who gave them their 30 million dollar deal. With Universal backing them they started to create a buzz trough out the rap world. This didn’t seem to bother No Limit since they gave them shout outs on records/interviews. Even people from No Limit were cool with Cash Money and vice versa.
Like I said earlier, No Limit didn’t care that Cash Money would be their biggest challenge sales wise. In fact they seemed to be proud that there was another southern label blowing up. The beef however started when No Limit was about to release a movie called “Hot Boyz” which is a popular slang in New Orleans but also the name of Cash Moneys Super group (with members like B.G, Juvenile, Lil Wayne and Turk) but Hot Boyz got their name from a local neighbourhood thug who called him self a “Hot Boy”. Feeling disrespected by No Limit the Hot Boyz started to call the No Limit camp “biters” – and with their 1999 “Guerrilla Warfare” album they dropped sneak disses on songs like “Help” “Hotgirl” and “I Feel”.
Lyrics from “Help”
“Nigga, my click raw, play it us we blow shit We was trained for war, believe we act a fool bitch We take situations fo, we don't play no games bitch We put on sound to talk aloud, the kids claim shit We on another level you stuck on the same shit CMB came through now we done rearranged shit We got the game locked these wannabe soldiers ain't shit Y'all ain't from uptown, can't come homebound and say the flow, you bitch We don't wear the suit, we wear tee's, fro's and reez” (No Limit called them self soldiers and was accused of being biters. They also wear suits.)
Lyrics from “Hotgirl”
“Fuck a "Thug girl" them hoes can only suck my dick I need a hot girl to represent this Uptown shit” (No Limit made a track called “Thug Girls”)
Lyrics from “I Feel”.
“I feel like we taking over the industry fo'' sho I feel like these bitin'' wannabe soldiers already know” (Once again dissing No Limit for being biters and soldiers)
That’s how it all started. No Limit had no options but to reply and they did it with their album “Da 504 Boyz – Godfellaz” with tracks like “Roll Roll” “Thug Girl 2” and “If You Real, Keep it Real”
They used sneak disses back at Cash Money like.
Lyrics from “Roll Roll”
“Ain't no block to hot Me and my niggas bout to open up shop Hot boy nigga grab the glock So me and my niggas we can sell our rocks” (Lil Wayne released an album called “The Block is Hot”)
Lyrics from “Thug Girl 2”
“I only fuck with thug girls when I'm on tha block and I don't mess with no hoes that say they hot”
(Dissing back at Cash Money for making the “Hot Girls” track and calling themselves Hot Boyz)
Lyrics from “If You Real, Keep it Real”
“Now if you real, keep it real But if you fake, then you phony Nigga Go join the navy, You can't fuck with this army” (Cash Money been saying that they are in the navy)
It didn’t stop there! Albums from No Limit like C-Murders – Trapped in Crime and Mr Marcelo – Brick Livin contained songs with disses to Cash Money. Cash Money retaliated back with tracks from Lil Wayne and B.G. In the middle of these releases a group called “Da Wild Boys” showed up, Da Wild Boys released a compilation called “Time for da real” that had numerous disses towards Cash Money; but the strange thing with that releases was that some people from No Limit like Krazy, Short Circuit, and more appeared on it under different names. The famous track from that albums was “Drop that soulja rag” by Sporty T. That track dissed Juvenile and they even made a video of it.
As far as I know the beef was strictly on wax. To my knowledge there haven’t been any fights or stab outs on the streets. The only rumours I heard was that C-Murder was going at a Cash Money party but wasn’t let in by the security. I also heard that Juvenile’s and Mystikal’s bodyguards got in to a fight.
Well after those albums the beef seemed to go to an end. The Hot Boys left Cash Money Records due to money disagreement and No Limit kinda faded away so there where no need to keep on dissin them. The turning point however was when C-Murder released his compilation album “Tru Dawgs” on one track called “Betya” he dissed Juvenile, Mystikal and Cash Money with lyrics like.
“I don't think you wanna mess wit Tru ya lil child Why would a nigga call himself Juvenile Like Benny Hill, we slap kids in the head I bet ya scary ass still piss in the bed I'm New Orleans baby, you sweeter than honey This Tru Records city nigga fuck Cash Money I'm C, C-P-3, uptown G I fuck with UNLV, Lil Ya and Tec-G I'm a bad ass Miller boy, a killer boy Get them sea man shoes and put yo ass in a river boy And all those girls that left No Limit on bad terms Keep it up and we gon plant you like earthworms Mystikal (Mystikal), you da hoe Yeah I heard you got fucked before And if anybody out there don't like what I said Let it be known my favourite color is red (blue)”
C Murder mentioned their names when he dissed them. Something that No Limit or Cash Money hadn’t done during their whole beef. After That track no one has replied or made a comment about it.
Jaz-O Vs. Jay-Z
When Jay-Z was still up-and-coming, he guested on another rapper/producer’s track, “Hawaiian Sophie,” which propelled him into fame. The rapper was Jaz-O, then known as Big Jaz the Originator. The track was on the album Word to the Jaz. Since then, Jay-Z has featured Jaz on his first album (on the track “Bring it On,” produced by Premier and featuring Sauce Money) and Vol 2 Hard Knock Life (on “Nigga What, Nigga Who”) as well as taken beats for Rap Game/Crack Game, the remix of In My Lifetime and superhit Ain’t No Nigga.
While Jay-Z, Big Jaz and Sauce Money started off rapping as a collective, things soon turned sour. When Damon “Dame” Dash met the Marcy rhymers and offered to sign them, Sauce and Jaz had their doubts, and Jaz was suspicious of the amount of money he was offered. However, Jay was apparently fine with the whole situation; according to Jaz, Jigga may have been offered something more than the other two. Jaz refused to let Dame manage him, and when Jay hit it big and started making his rounds, Jaz-O was nowhere to be found.
Jaz had gone down South to get out of the rap game for a while, but still saw Jay-Z and Dame sometimes. So when he decided to get back into the game, Jaz went to Jay; however, Jigga refused to be of much help. Starting out on his own, Jaz put together a crew (Immobilarie) and put out the record, Kingz County, featuring Jay-Z on only one song.
According to Jaz, he’d had to press Jay for six weeks to get the one verse for the track, “Let’s Go,” which also featured Sareefah and vocals from Beyonce. During this time, he would offer Jay-Z beats and songs, which Jigga would ignore, making Jaz feel like Jay wasn’t trying to fuck with his music. Shortly after the record came out, Jay-Z took his verse from Let’s Go and put it on Ja Rule’s Always On Time Remix. Then, in an interview with the Source during the height of the Jay-Z/Nas conflict, Jaz didn’t really defend Jigga at all.
Shortly after the release of Kingz County, the record Marcyville Murder Remix (Jay-Z with Geda K), appeared with Geda taking obvious shots at Jaz (Bitches and bitch niggas tryinna ride against homie/So fuck them and the originator of Sophie). The record shocked the rap world, and garnered a release from Jaz called Ova. This was countered by Jaz-Ho, a recording session by Jay-Z, Young Gunz and Freeway over the “I Get High” beat, which Jaz then retaliated to with the “Nothin’” freestyle. After that both parties apparently stopped making records. Jaz-O has also done two or three interviews on the beef, claiming Jay-Z only did songs with Biggie to try and outshine him on wax and that he was always stingy with his money, even trying to get Jaz’s 10% of Nigga What, Nigga Who.
During the middle of the low-profile verbal war, former Immobilarie member Dibiase dissed Big Jaz on wax, saying he betrayed everyone around him and couldn’t get a buzz, so he tried to ruin Jay-Z to get fame. Jay has never commented on the beef, except to promote Jaz’s album and video at the end of the song Jaz-Ho, cluelessly saying “I guess that’s what you’re doing this for.”
Royce da 5'9" Vs. D12
If you were a big fan of Eminem back in 2000, chances are you’ve heard of another Detroit rapper who goes by Royce da 5'9".
Besides the great white hope’s six-man crew D12, he and Royce had formed a duo by the name of Bad Meets Evil. While Em made only a hook appearance on Royce’s first album Rock City, and Nickel Nine only appeared on one track on Eminem’s Slim Shady LP, they were tight around the time of Eminem’s highly publicized signing to Dr. Dre’s Aftermath Records.
On 2001, the Dre album on which Em made his first huge impact on the rap game with Dre’s single Forgot About Dre, Royce wrote a lot of Dre’s verses–a move that should have put him in good with Andre, except that his manager at the time told an interviewer of the ghostwriting. When Royce wouldn’t fire the man, his ties with Dre were severed.
However, he kept on with Eminem, and actually convinced him to sign the rest of D12 (who were feuding with him at the time). After this, though, on DJ Butter’s mixtape track “Don’t Try This at Home” (with D12 and D-Elite), Bizarre spit a diss at the man known as Ryan Montgomery. In response, Royce recorded a diss track to him over the “I’ll Shit on You” beat, but thought better of releasing it.
Reports follow that on the Anger Management Tour, which featured both D12 and D-Elite, Royce wrote the line “Fuck anger management, I need someone to manage my anger.” It’s said that Em took it as a diss; later on the tour, D12 and D-Elite got into a barfight.
At 50 Cent’s release party for GRODT, D12 then released a mixtape on which the first track, entitled Smackdown, was a 5-member diss (Eminem not spitting a verse) to Royce over 50's Back Down beat. Royce retaliated with tracks like Malcom X, featuring his little brother Kid Vishis. The beef clearly got to Ryan, as he became depressed about his cut ties with Eminem and former friend, D12 member Proof; on his second album, Death is Certain, he exhibits a gloomy, insecure and brooding side of himself throughout the record, throwing subliminals at Shady Records and 50 Cent in the process.
Two years after the initial diss tracks were thrown, Royce and Proof had a standoff on a Detroit street, waving guns but (according to them) not threatening each other. The cops rolled up, the two were arrested, and they spent the night in neighboring cells working their problems out peacefully. They recently conducted an interview in the studio, stating they were working on tracks together for each others’ albums. No word has been said on his relationship with Em or the rest of D12, but things look good from this point.
Canibus Vs. Beanie Sigel
This hasn’t really been a big beef but I feel no-one really knows of it. I didnt know until reading about it and listening to the song. This all began when on one of Beanie’s tracks called “Put yo hands up”. This song was originally aimed at Jadakiss but in one line He spits “I rock bells like L, I ain’t Canibus nigga”. Bis took this by offence. Bis did not respond till Beanie did another thing. Beanie was always a big Canibus fan and use to always say Bis won but after he dissed Canibus he changed his mind and said LL. Canibus was offended by all the things which happened and released “Who ownz you” Bis rips him and takes shot at everything. One thing which comes up in the song and most feel is his secret motive is Rocafella and Jay-z. Bis have taken shots at this on his album C’ true Hollywood stories track “I gotta story to tell.” Canibus has admitted to not liking Jay-z and some people feel it is a diss towards him by dissing a signed artist of the same label.
Beanie Sigel has not yet replied
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LL Cool J Vs. Canibus
LL Cool J (as everyone knows) is one of the most established rappers in the Hip Hop game. He has released numerous albums, singles, he has featured on many Soundtracks, starred on guest appearances etc. You get the picture.
LL was finishing off his auto-biographical album 'Phenomenon' and decided to make a track called '4,3,2,1' this would be, without a doubt, one of the best tracks on the album. He had lined up a star studed line of rappers; Redman, Method Man, DMX (who had been working in Hip Hop for a while but was pretty unknown at the time) and Canibus. Back then, Canibus was a rapper of whom LL envied. Canibus' lyrics were amazing, he could include intellectual phrases, messages, multi-syllable words all into his freestyles making him a must for this track.
So, it was set. LL invited the group to a recording studio to rhyme on the track. Up first was Redman, then Method Man, DMX and finally Canibus. Once the group had left LL listened to the verses. When he got to Canibus' verse he encountered (what he thought) a verse which insulted him. It referred to his status and his tattoo (a mic on his arm). LL phoned Canibus and confronted him, Canibus stated that it wasn't an insult but LL managed to convince Canibus that LL would change his verse if Canibus would. Canibus came back into the studio and recorded a brand new verse.
A while later the track was released. Canibus' verse was changed but LL's verse was altered and now managed to show to the world that LL was higher than Canibus by dissing him on the track. The track was later released and Canibus heard it, then the period of realisation and revenge kicked in. And for the '4,3,2,1' video, Canibus shot his part separately (after they all were done). LL didn't include it into the video until 2-3 months later.
Canibus had allegedly already been verbally attacked by Redman but took no notice. Canibus wasn't pleased with LL, and along with Mike Tyson and Wyclef produced the dis-track '2nd Round Knockout.' This track was produced by Wyclef, featured Mike Tyson and had Canibus insulting everything that LL was known for.
The track '2nd Round Knockout' insulted LL's family, his TV show, his body, his attitude and basically it insulted him. With lines like "I'll kick you in the groin, hit you in the head, stick you for your Van Guard award infront of your moms, your first, second and third born," "Frontin' like a drug free role model you disgust me I know niggas that see you smoke weed recently."
The whole of the Hip Hop community were both shocked and engrosed in this beef, they sat back and watched it progress.
For the 'Bulworth' soundtrack, Dr. Dre was set to do a comeback track with Snoop Dogg, re-forming their original deep Death Row alliance, there were legal problems in clearing this so LL took Snoops place on the track. This track (LL's verse) was said to be his '2nd Round Knockout' comeback, 'Zoom' contained a pretty weak verse by LL, and fans weren't happy with this 'reply.'
'Zoom' wasn't the reply, not in the slightest. LL wasn't content on being insulted on such a wide scale so he produced 'The Ripper Strikes Back' a track which was a retaliation towards Canibus. In this track LL insulted Canibus (not as much as Canibus insulted him). He also insulted Wyclef and lastly Mike Tyson. They all received a verbal attack.
Canibus made various appearances after 'The Ripper Strikes Back,' and he wasn't all that bothered. All LL had said basically was the Canibus were things like; "49lbs and trying to be a mobster, "You know you watch the sitcom nigga stop lying" nothing which really could be taken as too offensive. The funny thing is that on 'The Ripper Strikes Back,' LL keeps saying as a sort of chorus "Can-I-Bus ? Yes you can!."
However, the other two parties involved in '2nd Round Knockout' were offended. Wyclef had been referred to as "that Bob Marley impostor" and various other things. Wyclef decided that he would retaliate with 'What's Clef Got To Do With It ?' (later released as 'What's Clef') this track wasn't as powerful as Canibus' but still enabled Clef to defend himself.
Canibus now has a tattoo on his arm of a mic with a fist around it, on the knuckles of the fist are the numbers : 4,3,2,1.
Onto Mike Tyson, he had a range of insults thrown towards him. "Heard that convicted rapist on the record too, straight out of jail ass cheeks still black and blue." Tyson received (in my opinion) the largest offensive amount of insults.
On LL’s side, for a long while a kid from Philadelphia named Meddafore has made a dis-cut towards Canibus entitled ‘Lightwork,’ the track has been circulating around the underground for a while now.
More Canibus beef problems include one with Queen Latifah, during a freestyle a while ago Canibus is said to have upset her in some way, he can’t go back to Jersey due to death threats. Another artist, Truck Turner got involved (who is down with BDP) with the Canibus dis-track entitle ‘Canibitch’ the track is produced by a guy named Domingo and as of yet Canibus has kept quiet towards Truck Turner, although it is pretty much unknown why Truck Turner got involved.
There are/were a lot of rumours surrounding an artist called Headkrak. Headkrak is down with Canibus and Wyclef and rumours circulated that he created a dis-track to Meddafore (the artist who dissed Canibus). These rumours were put forth to Headkrak, in actual fact there was no dis-track. Headkrak is down with Canibus but doesn’t want to get involved in this beef.
LL Cool J has unfortunately retired, so it's unlikely we'll hear anymore replies from him, but along with 'Lightwork,' an emcee named Mr Phace has come out with a reply to Canibus' '2nd Round Knockout,' the track is called 'You Wanna Battle,' it attacks Canibus in many ways including an assault of his track entitled 'How We Roll' (originally entitled 'Niggaz We Roll With'), and talks about how he wanted a reply so this is it. The beef seems over with LL, but will Canibus be replying to Meddafore and Mr Phace and Truck Turner?
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Death Row Records Vs. DPG
Fans of early 90’s West Coast rap will know of the vintage Death Row duo, the Dogg Pound, made up of best friends Kurupt and Daz. After the collapse of the label and the industrial black listing of the West Coast hip-hop scene in 1996 and early 97, the Dogg Pound left their parent label along with most of its best-selling artists.
For a few years everything was fine between former label mates Kurupt, Daz, singer Nate Dogg, Snoop Dogg and Soopafly (who, due to legal red tape, formed a collective group called Dogg Pound Gangstas). Kurupt dropped his 1998 debut solo album in the double disc Kuruption! and generally got on well. According to Dr Dre collaborator Scott Storch, Kurupt was the one member of the crew always against going back to Death Row. In fact, the only former inmate to leave the label before him had been Nate Dogg; Kurupt left, then Daz. While Snoop was still on the label, Kurupt acted as peace maker between the Doggy Dogg and Daz Dilly, until finally the final member of DPG left DR.
Then questions about Kurupt returning to the label started to arise. While Daz was against it, he and Kurupt had talked about it, and Kurupt even said “No matter what, we’ll still be friends” (XXL interview).
But when, in 2002, Kurupt decided to return to the label, his crewmates were not happy. They started throwing disses at each other, beginning with Daz. Kurupt had expressed regret for the beef, stating he was upset about breaking off friendships with Daz and Nate Dogg (although not so much Snoop Dogg, and even less so Soopafly). The disses to Kurupt and Death Row, and whoever worked with them, continued, if less so after Daz’s move to SoSo Def.
DR labelmates of Kurupt that participated included Crooked I, who has since left the label and shouted out Daz and Snoop for possible future projects; Danny Boy, Eastwood, and former DR affiliate (current G-Unit member) Spider Loc.
Then, three years later in 2005, both parties shocked disconsolate fans around the nation with a “West Coast peace summit” in which West Coast artists of every level and from every area--Kurupt and the DPG included--got together and deaded their beefs amongst each other. While Danny Boy and Eastwood have yet to comment, they have presumably squashed their respective beefs; Spider Loc is involved with G-Unit, which the DPG and are currently dissing, and as such his position is unclear.
Kurupt and Daz are currently in the studio working on the upcoming album Daz:Kurupt, Kurupt: Daz; the extended-family version of the DPG, the Dogg Pound Gangsta Clique (which includes the DPG plus MCs Lady of Rage, RBX, and MC/producer Warren G) are also planning a group album, and Snoop, Kurupt and Daz are on the How the West was One tour with Aftermath’s Dr Dre protégé The Game.
While Suge Knight has yet to comment officially on the reunion, Snoop has insisted his former benefactor is fully behind the peace movement.
MC Eiht Vs. DJ Quik
The beef between these two Compton native rappers was to be one of the most famous and longest on going beef’s in rap history. There are two different sides or version how the beef started. But the origin is an underground tape that Dj Quik did in his early days in the rap game. According to one version, Quik called out CMW (Compton’s Most Wanted), NWA and other rappers with crip background in a song in a negative way (Quik himself a blood). The other of the two version is that Quik gave shout outs to CMW (MC Eiht lead rapper in the group) and the shoutout was misinterpret by MC Eiht as a diss. When Eiht heard about the tape he recorded the diss tracks “Duck sick” and “Def wish” on his and Compton’s most wanted albums; “It's a Compton Thang” and “Straight Checkn'em” both albums released in the early 90’s. Quik was quick to reply to the diss on his solo album “Way 2 Fonky” with the track with the same name as the album, calling out MC Eihts disses as lame. The same track was also recorded as a video. Quik also dissed Eiht on his shout out on the end of the album. MC Eiht didn’t take long to reply once again hooking up with his partnas from CMW (Compton’s most wanted) on the album” Music to Driveby”. Music to driveby consists a numerous of disses towards Quik including the track “Dead Men Tell No Lies” giving it to Quik in a hard way. For a year or two it seemed that the beef was calming down with Eiht dropping the last word. But in 94 Quik dropped the bomb, backed up by Deathrow records on the "Murder was the case" soundtrack. Quik came out with the track "Dollars n sense". The track became soon a classic diss track, dropping lines like
“Givin your set a bad name wit your misspelled name E-I-H-T, now should I continue Yeah you left out the G cause the G ain't in you”.
Quik also used the track on his solo album “Safe & Sound” that came out the same year. Safe & Sound also includes the track “Let Yo Havit “ on the track Quik tries to explain in a less nice way that he didn’t diss MC Eiht and CMW with his underground tape. 1994 was also the same year that MC Eiht released his first solo album called “We come strapped” once again dissin Quik on “def wish III”. The album was in many people’s opinions Eiht’s best solo project yet. Eiht kept on dissin Quik on his second solo album Death Threatz. Quik seemed to be tired of the beef and on his fourth solo album” Rhythm-Al-Ism “ Quik reached out to Eiht on the track “You’s a ganxta” suggesting that the two do a track together. Eiht and Quik recorded the track together but to my knowledge it was never released. It’s kind of ironic that these two rappers from the same city (Compton) came up about the same time on the commercial music scene , just after the NWA wave in early 90’s became enemies. Style wise Dj Quik and MC Eiht couldn’t be more different Eiht with his dark beats and heavy bass-sound and Quik with his smooth more funky style.
There are rumours that the two parties collided at a night club in a massive brawl and sadly one man died in it, but the beef is now days squashed and the two Compton legends have made peace with each other.
Tim dog Vs. the westcoast rapscene
The year was 1991 gold chains and jerry curls was the fashion. NWA had two successful albums out “N.W.A and the Posse” and “Straight Outta Compton” bringing some light and attention to the westcoast rap scene. Out of nowhere came Tim dog dissin not only NWA but pretty much the whole westcoast rapscene. On the track “Fuck Compton” on his solo album "Penicillin on Wax" Tim speaks his mind on the westcoast rap scene with lyrics like;”
All you suckers that rif on the West Coast I'll dis and spray your ass like a roach Ya think you're cool wit your curls and your shades”.
"Fuck Compton" was not the only diss track on “Penicillin on Wax “on “Step to Me” throws Tim lyrical lead at DJ Quik and all NWA members (except Ice Cube who had left the group at that time). Many westcoast rappers felt offended by Tim Dog, a rapper that they didn’t even know came out from nowhere and started dissin them for no special reason. So you can say that it was open season on Tim Dog for the coming years. Tweedy bird loc from dangerous records recorded the track "fuck south Bronx" in 92 as a direct reply to Tim’s track "Fuck Compton". Tweedy was not the only one to go after Tim. Snoop and Dr Dre teamed up on the classic track "Fuckin wit dre-day" from the masterpiece "The Chronic" with lines like;
it seems like Play, with my bone would ya Timmy It seems like you're good for makin jokes about your jimmy But here's a jimmy joke about your mama that you might not like I heard she was the 'Frisco dyke But fuck your mama, I'm talkin about you and me Toe to toe, Tim M-U-T
Compton native MC Eiht and CMW joined up to diss Tim on the track “Who's XXXXXXX Who”. Verbally attacking both Tim and his neighbourhood. Dj Quik who got personal dissed by Tim fired back in a big way with the track “way 2 funky”with lyrics like;
Tim Cause we ain't goin out and we ain't stuck in that old school shit That boring flavor that just don't hit Cause this is ninety-two, and yes yo' style is through And if your record ain't sellin well fool I thought you knew
In 1993 was Tim back with his second solo album “Do or Die” toning is style down a bit maybe caught up a bit by the huge publicity his debut album had. Don’t get me wrong Tim kept the same hardcore style but he doesn’t call out names as frequently as he did on “Penicillin on Wax on“. Tim also recorded a single called “Bitch With a Perm” callin Snoop a biter of Slick Ricks style;
Yeah, kid, this business ain't big enough for two dogs So let the battle begin Haha, but you don't want it coz I'll end ya career You bit ya style from Slick Rick”.
I am unsure what time this single was released if it was before or after Snoop dissed Tim on "fucking wit dre day". I heard later on that Tim was surprised over the huge reaction that his disses caused and that he did it partly to get a record deal after being rejected numerous times. I also heard that Tim lived in LA and worked with westcoast rappers so you can say his aggressive attitude towards westcoast rap/hiphop has changed. Still you can say that Tim’s disses to the westcoast rapscene caused tension and a lot of people felt dissed . You can also say that Tim’s diss was a factor to the beginning of the west vs east beef. The westcoast vs eastcoast conflict or beef that would later escalate in the Tupac Biggie beef and Westside connections debut album Bow Down.
Yukmouth/Luniz Vs. Master P
Who is the real Icecream man?
It all started in 1994 when Luniz did a track called “Ice cream” man with Dru Down. On Dru Down’s solo album "Explicit Game". Yukmouth and Knumskull (Luniz) used the word ice-cream as streetslang for drugs and Ice-cream man as slang for drug dealer. A couple years later Master P dropped his solo album called Ice-cream man on No Limit records. Master P used the same slang as Luniz did years before on the tracks “Mr. Ice-cream man” and “Selling cream”. P also used the same Ice cream man jingle that Luniz used. Yukmouth of Luniz claimed that it was just Master-P’s album “Ice-cream man” that blew up his career and built up his No limit imperium and guess on who’s expense.
Another factor to the beef could be that Yukmouth an oldtime friend of Tupac Shakur thought that Master P was biting Tupac’s style . In other words when Master P used Tupac’s name in tracks, Yukmouth felt as a old friend of Tupac that he had to speak up. Speak up he did on the track “Sad millionaire” taken from The Luniz second album called "Lunitik Muzik". Yukmouth kept up his dissing spree dissing Master P again this time on his own solo album "Thugged Out : The Albulation" with the track “still ballin” featuring The Outlawz and Tupac(old lyrics).The track has the same name as an old Tupac track and Yukmouth points out on the track that Master Pis joking Pac’s shit. In the year 2000 Yukmouth teamed up with Sacramento veteran C-bo on the track “spray yourself” once again taking shots at Master P Yukmouth Kept on dissin P on his second solo album: "Thug Lord: The New Testament" with the track “Regime Killers 2001 and to say that Yukmouth is shy in his lyrics is an understatement with lines like: Mash ya, boy, I hate Master P like Pastor Troy”. On Yukmouth latest album Godzilla he once again throws lyrical blows at P and his label. On the track “Somebody gone die 2 nite”.
Master P has as far as I know not dissed Yukmouth back out loud in name but he has done tracks about playa haters and how the they hate on his success. As far I know the beef between these two rappers has maintained strictly lyrical.
So judge it yourself: did Master P copy the Luniz style and did he profit on Tupac after his death or are Yukmouth just jealous of Master P’s success and looking for media attention and publicity with his numerous disses towards Master P
Death Row Records Vs. Ruthless Records
From the late 80's to early 90's, one West Coast crew reigned supreme: NWA. Somewhat of a West Coast gansta rap answer to Public Enemy, the 5-man group consisted of Ice Cube, Eazy E, Dr Dre, MC Ren and DJ Yella (plus honorary member, The DOC). With the group's enormous success, it wasn’t long before they had a home at Eazy’s new pet label Ruthless Records.
Cube was the first to leave for financial reasons, going on to start successful group and solo projects. While he and the rest of the group–including Dre–traded diss tracks, it wasn’t long before DOC and his then-bodyguard/manager/acquaintance Suge Knight discovered that Eazy and his own manager Jerry Heller were indeed stealing money from the group, Dre included.
When Eazy refused to let Dre off his Ruthless contract, Suge “insisted” on it, probably using strongarm methods as is his style. Soon Dre was free with no place to go, and he and Suge started up Death Row Records. From there, Dr. Dre set up the battle between Death Row and Ruthless by lacing his entire breakthrough debut with disses toward Eazy. In retaliation, Eazy released the diss album “It’s On (Dr Dre) 187um Killa.”
Also joining in the beef were DR labelmates Snoop Dogg and the Dogg Pound (Daz and Kurupt), and Ruthless’s Gangsta Dresta and BG Knoccout, as Snoop threw subliminals at Eazy all through The Chronic, and the Dogg Pound dissed Gangsta Dresta and Eazy’s new signees Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (who never responded) on tracks “Murder Was the Case” and “Dogg Pound Gangstas,” respectively. Knoccout and Dresta where both featured on 187um Killa, and replied to Murder with “Dogg Pound Killaz.”
After this, Eazy and Dre began contact again, trying to work their beefs out; however, they could never agree on their managers, Jerry Heller and Suge Knight. The bad blood went on until Eazy’s death in 1995 when he died of AIDS–a rumor even surfaced a year or so ago that Daz had sent the AIDS-infected groupie to Eazy’s room one night, though when or if this was done is unclear.
Today, though Ruthless is defunct (Their biggest act, the Bone Thugs, discovered Eazy’s practice of skimming money was still going on and left), producer Big Hutch 187em still accuses Dre of stealing some of his work.
Tha Realest Vs. Ja Rule
Tha Realest - undoubtedly the biggest Tupac Shakur "clone" in the rap industry to date has lived off beef for almost his entire career. Making a name for himself on Deathrow Records compilations such as 'Too Gangsta For Radio' and 'Chronic 2000' kept his name fresh...in which he used the promotion to further his differences with other "biters" in the game. First using No Limit as a means to get his name well known for biting 2Pac, he then focused his attention on another rapper that has certain similarities to Pac - Ja Rule.
Ja Rule has obviously been influenced by Tupac in many ways - the bald head, the tattoos, the bandanas, the lyrical comparision...and Tha Realest, at some point, took offense to this. While Tha Realest has went as far to say he "represents Tupac" and "rides for Makaveli's souljas", he considered Ja Rule to be the exact opposite of what Pac represented. Rule rapped on Pac beats, and in some instances rapped Pac's lyrics almost word-for-word. So of course, the first to throw a diss was obviously Tha Realest. On the song "Check Out My Melody", released in 2002, Tha Realest throws lyrical jabs at Rule ("A Ja Rule killa..how the fuck you thought you gettin away with that? rappin on Pac beats, we knowin you wack") and starts off the track with an excerpt of Ja Rule basically claimin that he's Pac and sayin he'll take it to the streets any time. Backed up by his Omerta Ent. imprint, Tha Realest continued to throw disses towards Rule on songs with Ja-nemesis C-Bo, and on other solo tracks. Although Rule never responded (it's most likely that he doesn't consider him competition), Tha Realest continued to diss Rule threw 2004, and it's likely the beef's still pending.
So is Tha Realest correct in saying he's standing up for Pac and exposing Ja Rule, or is Ja Rule just another artist influenced by 2Pac? You be the judge. But it's certainly a beef that West Coast rap fans are aware of, and hasn't been resolved yet.