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KidDiamonds617
03-03-2006, 01:19 AM
When I was building with my boy a while back ... he brought up some next shit that had me stunned so I got into to reading what the nuwabians had to say and Doc Malachi . The science of having being created by the Scientist Eloheem and the search for Gold in the Galaxy which brought the ancestors to mars and then earth, (examples so I don't make this a book or a scroll ) the 9 ether gases , Atmosphere, Life on Mars , and how to clone females ? is this really Sound Right Reasoning ? I wanna Build with someone on this, holla ! Peace and Blessings

dif de la rev
03-03-2006, 01:28 AM
what are the titles of book(s) you consulted they sound interesting ? also i would need more info but will try to find some. peace.

LORD NOSE
03-03-2006, 01:40 AM
are yall truly ready for this ?

dif de la rev
03-03-2006, 01:42 AM
yeah.

LORD NOSE
03-03-2006, 01:45 AM
first think about these simple words



the earth is in space - this means that your from space


see yall tommorow

Aqueous Moon
03-03-2006, 02:25 AM
Yeah, drop them jewels Sunny...

dif de la rev
03-03-2006, 12:40 PM
which direction of space so i can leave earth

LORD NOSE
03-03-2006, 01:47 PM
why leave ?

do you feel out of place on earth ?

LORD NOSE
03-03-2006, 01:48 PM
a soldier is on his way to explain some things to you

dif de la rev
03-03-2006, 01:55 PM
why leave ?

do you feel out of place on earth ?

no i have adapted but won't adopt it as home

LORD NOSE
03-03-2006, 02:56 PM
do you believe that if you go to another planet in another system that you have never visited before that it would be a better place than this place you have adapted to ?

are you really willing to find out ?


from my understanding of this story the ozone layer of the planet risq was damaged and the only element that could repair the damage was gold -


why was khemit/egypt covered in gold ?

there was four military ships following niburu,one of them crashed and went half way into the earth - i believe that the great pyramid was built on top of this "hole" - the ship that crashed was manned by people who are somewhat lizard like ok ok reptilians -


the snake and the eagle


brb

LORD NOSE
03-03-2006, 03:07 PM
oh well


the headdresses of these people who populated that area sometimes had a snake and an eagle on them - sometimes it would just have a snake and sometimes you would just see an eagle


some were a mixture of snake and eagle - some just had eagle - they were from the family who were from above -


some just sported the snake they were from the people who crashed half way into the earth in that military ship from malkadia <(correction,Maldek) - the ships title is west wind -

they were at war with the people from above because nibiru had smashed into their planet on their way to earth -


this is why four winds/ships from that planets military was launched to attack nibiru - but they got caught up in nibirus gravitational pull and lost all control



this is just my understanding of this story - and there is much much more

KidDiamonds617
03-03-2006, 03:26 PM
yo I Read the Holy Tablets and various Conspriracy-Theorical Scrolls. From The Doc... The Holy Tabernacle Ministries supplied me those a while back .... but no doubt about it is some heavy shit ......

LHX
03-03-2006, 05:02 PM
about ozone -

if we stopped doing what we do on this planet - wouldnt ozone regenerate itself?

also
is it not possible to turn other metals into gold?

iniquity
03-03-2006, 05:29 PM
oh well


the headdresses of these people who populated that area sometimes had a snake and an eagle on them - sometimes it would just have a snake and sometimes you would just see an eagle


some were a mixture of snake and eagle - some just had eagle - they were from the family who were from above -


some just sported the snake they were from the people who crashed half way into the earth in that military ship from malkadia <(correction,Maldek) - the ships title is west wind -

they were at war with the people from above because nibiru had smashed into their planet on their way to earth -



this is why four winds/ships from that planets military was launched to attack nibiru - but they got caught up in nibirus gravitational pull and lost all control



this is just my understanding of this story - and there is much much more


Kinda Zecharia Sitchin-ish ...

LORD NOSE
03-03-2006, 08:50 PM
Kinda Zecharia Sitchin-ish ...


keep hearing about this man - never read any of his work

Maboya
03-03-2006, 09:04 PM
Anyone whose ever read some of the extra-terrestrial teachings of Dr. Malachi Z. York from years ago should already be quite familar with Zecharia Sitchin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin), I know I was when I finally picked up a book of his last year.

V4D3R
03-04-2006, 12:34 PM
The Anunnaqi (known in the bible as the Nephilim - Nefilim - Elohim - Annunaki (http://www.crystalinks.com/nephilim.html)
meaning "Those who from Heaven to Earth came."

The Sumerian King List (http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerhistory.html)records all the rulers of Earth back over 400,000 years. This huge stretch of time coupled with reigns into the thousands of years has caused most historians to reject its accuracy. However all the early rulers were allegedly gods - demi-gods or immortals.

The Annunaki are sometimes depicted as humanoid. At other times they are bird-headed with wings [Symbology - evolution of consiciousness - return to higher frequency of thought - alchemy]. Often they are Reptilian in appearance especially when depicted as warriors - [Reptilian Symbology - snake - dragons - reptiles = DNA - creation of the human bi-polar experiment.] Sometimes they are shown as a combination of several types of entities. All is myth, math, and metaphor, so look for the clues in every set of gods you read about, as they all follow the same patterns (http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html)that repeat in cycles or loops called Time. The patterns of their battles reflect reality as duality and are found within every pantheon of gods - the same characters playing different roles.

A Sumerian tablet shows Enmeduranki, a prince in Sippar, who was well loved by Anu, Enlil and Ea. Shamash, a priest in the Bright Temple, appointed him then took him to the assembly of the gods. They showed him how to observe oil on water and many other secrets of Anu, Enlil and Ea. Then they gave him the Divine Tablet, the kibdu secret of Heaven and Earth. They taught him how to make calculations with numbers." [This is a reference to Sacred or Creational Geometry (http://www.crystalinks.com/sacred_geometry.html)]
The Sumerians never called the Anunnaki, 'gods.' They were called din.gir, a two-syllable word. 'Din' meant 'righteous, pure, bright;' 'gir' was a term used to describe a sharp-edged object. As an epithet for the Anunnaki 'dingir' meant 'righteous ones of the bright pointed objects.'
Sumerian texts break up history into two epochs divided by the Great Deluge - the Biblical Flood (http://www.crystalinks.com/floodstories.html). After the waters receded the great Anunnaki who decree the fate decided that the gods were too lofty for mankind. The term used - 'elu' in Akkadian - means exactly that: 'Lofty Ones;' from it comes the Babylonian, Assyrian, Hebrew, and Ugaritic El - the term to which the Greeks gave the connotation 'god'.
From Genesis:

After the sons of God took human wives there were giants in the Earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became the mighty men which were of old, men of renown. The Nefilim were upon the Earth, in those days and thereafter too, when the sons of the gods cohabitated with the daughters of the Adam, and they bore children unto them. They were the mighty ones of Eternity - the people of the shem.' Nefilim stems from the Semitic root NFL, 'to be cast down.' The Sumerians believed in their gods and saw the intentions of their gods as good and powerful beings who controlled their world. The Sumerians explanation for their hardships and misfortunes were the result of human deeds that displeased the gods - in a word, sin. They believed that when someone displeased the gods, these gods let demons punish the offender with sickness, disease or environmental disasters.
The Sumerians experienced infrequent rains that sometimes created disastrous floods, and they believed that these floods were punishments created by a demon god that lived in the depths of the Gulf of Persia. And to explain the misfortunes and suffering of infants, the Sumerians believed that sin was inborn, that never was a child born without sin. Therefore, wrote a Sumerian, when one suffered it was best not to curse the gods but to glorify them, to appeal to them, and to wait patiently for their deliverance.
In giving their gods human characteristics, the Sumerians projected onto their gods the conflicts they found among themselves. Sumerian priests wrote of a dispute between the god of cattle, Lahar, and his sister Ashnan, the goddess of grain. Like some other gods, these gods were vain and wished to be praised. Each of the two sibling gods extolled his and her own achievements and belittled the achievements of the other.
The Sumerians 'saw' another dispute between the minor gods Emesh (summer) and his brother Enten (winter). Each of these brothers had specific duties in creation - like Cain the farmer and Able the herdsmen. The god Enlil put Emesh in charge of producing trees, building houses, temples, cities and other tasks. Enlil put Enten in charge of causing ewes to give birth to lambs, goats to give birth to kids, birds to build nests, fish to lay their eggs and trees to bear fruit. And the brothers quarreled violently as Emesh challenged Enten's claim to be the farmer god.
A dispute existed also between the god Enki and a mother goddess, Ninhursag -- perhaps originally the earth goddess Ki. Ninhursag made eight plants sprout in a divine garden, plants created from three generations of goddesses fathered by Enki.
These goddesses were described as having been born "without pain or travail." Then trouble came as Enki ate the plants that Ninhursag had grown. Ninhursag responded with rage, and she pronounced a curse of death on Enki, and Enki's health began to fail. Eight parts of Enki's body - one for each of the eight plants that he ate - became diseased, one of which was his rib.
The goddess Ninhursag then disappeared so as not let sympathy for Enki change her mind about her sentence of death upon him. But she finally relented and returned to heal Enki. She created eight healing deities - eight more goddesses - one for each of Enki's ailing body parts. The goddess who healed Enki's rib was Nin-ti, a name that in Sumerian meant "lady of the rib," which describes a character who was to appear in a different role in Hebrew writings centuries later, a character to be called Eve.




In Sumerian mythology and later for Assyrians and Babylonians, Anu was a sky-god, the god of heaven, lord of constellations, king of gods, spirits and demons, and dwelt in the highest heavenly regions. It was believed that he had the power to judge those who had committed crimes, and that he had created the stars as soldiers to destroy the wicked. He was the father of the Anunnaku (also spelled Anunnaki). In art he was sometimes depicted as a jackal. His attribute was the royal tiara, most times decorated with two pairs of bull horns.
He was also called An.

In Sumerian mythology, An was the god whose name was synonymous with the sun's zenith, or heaven. He was the oldest god in the Sumerian pantheon, and part of a triad including Enlil, god of the sky and Enki, god of water. He was called Anu by the Akkadians, rulers of Mesopotamia after the conquest of Sumer in 2334 BCE by King Sargon of Akkad. In Sumerian mythology and later for Assyrians and Babylonians, Anu was a sky-god, the god of heaven, lord of constellations, king of gods, spirits and demons, and dwelt in the highest heavenly regions. It was believed that he had the power to judge those who had committed crimes, and that he had created the stars as soldiers to destroy the wicked. He was the father of the Anunnaku (also spelled Anunnaki). In art he was sometimes depicted as a jackal. His attribute was the royal tiara, most times decorated with two pairs of bull horns.
By virtue of being the first figure in a triad consisting of Anu, Bel and Ea, Anu came to be regarded as the father and king of the gods. Anu is so prominently associated with the city of Erech in southern Babylonia that there are good reasons for believing this place to have been the original seat of the Anu cult. If this be correct, then the goddess Nana (or Ishtar) of Erech was presumably regarded as his consort.
The name of the god signifies the "high one" and he was probably a god of the atmospheric region above the earth--perhaps a storm god like Adad. However this may be, already in the old-Babylonian period, i.e. before Khammurabi, Anu was regarded as the god of the heavens and his name became in fact synonymous with the heavens, so that in some cases it is doubtful whether, under the term, the god or the heavens is meant.
It would seem from this that the grouping of the divine powers recognized in the universe into a triad symbolizing the three divisions, heavens, earth and the watery-deep, was a process of thought which had taken place before the third millennium.
To Anu was assigned the control of the heavens, to Bel the earth, and to Ea the waters.
The doctrine once established remained an inherent part of the Babylonian-Assyrian religion and led to the more or less complete disassociation of the three gods constituting the triad from their original local limitations.
An intermediate step between Anu viewed as the local deity of Erech (or some other centre), Bel as the god of Nippur, and Ea as the god of Eridu is represented by the prominence which each one of the centres associated with the three deities in question must have acquired, and which led to each one absorbing the qualities of other gods so as to give them a controlling position in an organized pantheon.
For Nippur we have the direct evidence that its chief deity, En-lil or Bel, was once regarded as the head of an extensive pantheon. The sanctity and, therefore, the importance of Eridu remained a fixed tradition in the minds of the people to the latest days, and analogy therefore justifies the conclusion that Anu was likewise worshipped in a centre which had acquired great prominence.
The summing-up of divine powers manifested in the universe in a threefold division represents an outcome of speculation in the schools attached to the temples of Babylonia, but the selection of Anu, Bel and Ea for the three representatives of the three spheres recognized, is due to the importance which, for one reason or the other, the centres in which Anu, Bel and Ea were worshipped had acquired in the popular mind.
Each of the three must have been regarded in his centre as the most important member in a larger or smaller group, so that their union in a triad marks also the combination of the three distinctive pantheons into a harmonious whole.In the astral theology of Babylonia and Assyria, Anu, Bel and Ea became the three zones of the ecliptic, the northern, middle and southern zone respectively.
The purely theoretical character of Anu is thus still further emphasized, and in the annals and votive inscriptions as well as in the incantations and hymns, he is rarely introduced as an active force to whom a personal appeal can be made. His name becomes little more than a synonym for the heavens in general and even his title as king or father of the gods has little of the personal element in it.
A consort Antum (or as some scholars prefer to read, Anatum) is assigned to him, on the theory that every deity must have a female associate, but Antum is a purely artificial product--a lifeless symbol playing even less of a part in what may be called the active pantheon than Anu.
In Hurrian mythology, Anu was the progenitor of all gods. His son Kumarbi bit off his genitals and spat out three deities, one of whom, Teshub, later deposed Kumarbi. He bit off the genitals of Anu and spat out three new gods. One of those, the storm god Teshub, later deposed Kumarbi. Scholars have pointed to the remarkable similarities between this Hurrian creation myth and the story of Ouranos, Kronos, and Zeus from Greek mythology. It's all recycled in the loops of time awith the same charcaters playing most of the roles - or one character playing them all.
According to the Earth Chronicles series by Zecharia Sitchin, (http://www.crystalinks.com/sitchen.html)the wife of Anu was a fertility goddess and the mother of the gods; her cult was centered in Munster. However, Anu was one of the Anunnaki who came from the planet Nibiru (Marduk).
According to Sitchin's theories on Sumerian legend and lore, the Anunnaki arrived first on Earth probably 400,000 years ago, looking for minerals, especially gold, which they found and mined gold in Africa. Sitchin may have confused the Mesopotamian god Anu with the Irish goddess Anann - or are they the same?




Frieze with Lion-Headed Eagle (Ninhursag) and Stags, copper, Temple at Tell al-Ubaid, 2500 BCE, h: 1.07 mFrom the Early Dynastic - Southern Mesopotamian Period, 2900 BCE - 2350 BCE - Found in Ubaid. This copper frieze was found in the temple at Ubaid, presumably to be placed over the doorway. It represents the storm-god Ninhursag (lady of the mountain), shown as a lion-headed eagle grasping two stags with her great talons. The panel has been cast in high relief, with the heads of the three beasts cast separately. Note that the head of the eagle breaks out of the border of the frieze.
In Sumerian mythology, Ninhursag (or Ki) was the earth and mother-goddess she usually appears as the sister of Enlil. Ninhursag means 'Lady of the Foothills'. She had many other names: Nintur 'Lady Birth', Ninmah 'Lady August', Dingirmah, Aruru, and as wife of Enki was usually called Damgalnunna.
In Akkadian she was Belit-ili 'Lady of the Gods' and Mama and as wife to Ea, Enki's Akkadian counterpart, she was called Damkina. Her prestige decreased as Ishtar's increased, but her aspect as Damkina mother of Marduk, the supreme god of Babylonia, still held a secure place in the pantheon.
In union with Enki she also bore Ninsar, goddess of the pasture. She was the chief nurse, the one in charge of medical facilities. In that role that the Goddess was called NINTI (lady-life). She was considered the Mother Goddess. She was nicknamed 'Mammu' - now called 'mother' 'mom'.
Ninhursag bore a male child to Enlil. His name was NIN.UR.TA (lord who completes the fountain). He was the son who to do battle for his father using bolts of lightening.
In Egypt sheplayed the roles of several creational goddesses - Maat (http://www.crystalinks.com/maat.html) -- Isis (http://www.crystalinks.com/isis.html) and Hathor (http://www.crystalinks.com/hathor.html) [Cow Goddess - Milk Symbology]




Within his sacred precinct 'Mound of Creation' in Eridu, Enki unraveled the secrets of life and death. His emblem was two serpents [tiwn human DNA] entwined on a staff - the basis for the winged caduceus symbol used by modern Western medicine. Enki was the god who created the first humans. His sacred number is 40.
Enki was the leader of the first sons of Anu that came down to Earth. He played the pivotal role in saving humanity from the global Deluge. He defied the Anunnaki ruling council and told Ziusudra (the Sumerian Noah) how to build a ship on which to save humanity from the killing flood. Ea would have been over 120 sars old at that time, yet his activity with humanity continued to be actively reported for thousands of years thereafter.




Enki's youngest son, Ningizzida, was Lord of the Tree of Truth, in Mesopotamia. He played the role of Thoth (http://www.crystalinks.com/thoth.html) in Egypt and Hermes (http://www.crystalinks.com/hermes.html) the Magician - the Alchemist. The ancient Mystery School Teachings of Thoth were past down to his Initiates who became the priests. They hid the secret knowledge of creation, passing it down through the ages - Sacred Geometry. (http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html)
Enki was a deity in Sumerian mythology, later known as Ea in Babylonian mythology. The name Ea is of Sumerian origin and was written by means of two signs signifying "house" and "water". Enki was the deity of water, intelligence and creation. The main temple of Enki was the so-called -engur-ra, the "house of the (water-)deep"; it was in Eridu, which was in the wetlands of the Euphrates valley at some distance from the Persian Gulf. He was the keeper of the holy powers called Me. The exact meaning of his name is not sure: the common translation is "Lord of the Earth": the Sumerian en is translated as "lord", ki as "earth"; but there are theories that ki in this name has another origin.He is the lord of the Apsu, the watery abyss. His name is possibly an epithet bestowed on him for the creation of the first man, [Adamu or Adapa. His symbols included a goat and a fish, which later combined into a single beast, the Capricorn, which became one of the signs of the zodiac. Enki had a penchant for beer and a string of incestuous affairs. First, he and his consort Ninhursag had a daughter Ninsar. He then had intercourse with Ninsar who gave birth to Ninkurra. Finally, he had intercourse with Ninkurra, who gave birth to Uttu.
According to Sumerian mythology, Enki allowed humanity to survive the Deluge designed to kill them. After Enlil, An and the rest of the apparent Council of Deities, decided that Man would suffer total annihilation, he covertly rescued the human man Ziusudra by either instructing him to build some kind of an boat for his family, or by bringing him into the heavens in a magic boat. This is apparently the oldest surviving source of the Noah's Ark myth and other parallel Middle Eastern Deluge myths.
Enki was considered a god of life and replenishment, and was often depicted with streams of water emanating from his shoulders. Alongside him were trees symbolising the male and female aspects of nature, each holding the male and female aspects of the 'Life Essence', which he, as apparent alchemist of the gods, would masterfully mix to create several beings that would live upon the face of the Earth.
Eridu, meaning "the good city", was one of the oldest settlements in the Euphrates valley, and is now represented by the mounds known as Abu Shahrein. In the absence of excavations on that site, we are dependent for our knowledge of Ea on material found elsewhere. This is, however, sufficient to enable us to state definitely that Ea was a water-deity, lord especially of the water under the earth, the Apsu. Whether Ea (or A-e as some scholars prefer) represents the real pronunciation of his name we do not know.
Older accounts sometimes suppose that by reason of the constant accumulation of soil in the Euphrates valley Eridu was formerly situated on the Persian Gulf itself (as indicated by mention in Sumerian texts of its being on the Apsu), but it is now known that the opposite is true, that the waters of the Persian Gulf have been eroding the land and that the Apsu must refer to the fresh water of the marshes surrounding the city.
Ea is figured as a man covered with the body of a fish, and this representation, as likewise the name of his temple E-apsu, "house of the watery deep", points decidedly to his character as a god of the waters. Of his cult at Eridu, which goes back to the oldest period of Babylonian history, nothing definite is known except that his temple was named Esaggila = "the lofty house", pointing to a staged tower (as with the temple of Enlil at Nippur, which was known as Ekur = "mountain house"), and that incantations, involving ceremonial rites, in which water as a sacred element played a prominent part, formed a feature of his worship.
Whether Eridu at one time also played an important political role is not certain, though not improbable. At all events, the prominence of the Ea cult led, as in the case of Nippur, to the survival of Eridu as a sacred city, long after it had ceased to have any significance as a political center. Myths in which Ea figures prominently have been found in Assurbanipal's library, indicating that Ea was regarded as the protector and teacher of mankind. He is essentially a god of civilization, and it was natural that he was also looked upon as the creator of man, and of the world in general.
Traces of this view appear in the Marduk epic celebrating the achievements of this god, and the close connection between the Ea cult at Eridu and that of Marduk also follows from two considerations: (1) that the name of Marduk's sanctuary at Babylon bears the same name, Esaggila, as that of Ea in Eridu, and (2) that Marduk is generally termed the son of Ea, who derives his powers from the voluntary abdication of the father in favour of his son. Accordingly, the incantations originally composed for the Ea cult were re-edited by the priests of Babylon and adapted to the worship of Marduk, and, similarly, the hymns to Marduk betray traces of the transfer of attributes to Marduk which originally belonged to Ea.
It is, however, more particularly as the third figure in the triad, the two other members of which were Anu and Enlil, that Ea acquires his permanent place in the pantheon. To him was assigned the control of the watery element, and in this capacity he becomes the shar apsi, i.e. king of the Apsu or "the deep." The Apsu was figured as the abyss of water beneath the earth, and since the gathering place of the dead, known as Aralu, was situated near the confines of the Apsu, he was also designated as En-Ki, i.e. "lord of that which is below", in contrast to Anu, who was the lord of the "above" or the heavens.
The cult of Ea extended throughout Babylonia and Assyria. We find temples and shrines erected in his honour, e.g. at Nippur, Girsu, Ur, Babylon, Sippar and Nineveh, and the numerous epithets given to him, as well as the various forms under which the god appears, alike bear witness to the popularity which he enjoyed from the earliest to the latest period of Babylonian-Assyrian history.
The consort of Ea, known as Damkina, "lady of that which is below," or Damgalnunna, "great lady of the waters," represents a pale reflection of Ea and plays a part merely in association with her lord.



Enlil was the name of a chief deity in Babylonian religion, perhaps pronounced and sometimes rendered in translations as Ellil in later Akkadian. The name is Sumerian and has been believed to mean 'Lord Wind' though a more literal interpretation is 'Lord of the Command'.
Enlil was the god of wind, or the sky between earth and heaven. One story has him originate as the exhausted breath of An (God of the heavens) and Ki (goddess of the Earth) after sexual union. Another accounts is that he and his sister Ninhursag/Ninmah/Aruru were children of an obscure god Enki 'Lord Earth' (not the famous Enki) by Ninki 'Lady Earth'.
When Enlil was a young god, he was banished from Dilmun, home of the gods, to Kur, the underworld for raping a young girl named Ninlil. Ninlil followed him to the underworld where she bore his first child, the moon god Sin. After fathering three more underworld deities, Enlil was allowed to return to Dilmun.
Enlil was also known as the inventor of the pickaxe/hoe (favorite tool of the Sumerians) and the cause of plants growing. He was in possession of the holy Me, until he gave them to Enki for safe keeping, who summarily lost them to Inanna in a drunken stupor.
Enlil's relation to An 'Sky', in theory the supreme god of the Sumerian pantheon, was somewhat like that of a Frankish mayor of the palace compared to the king, or that of a Japanese shogun compared to the emperor, or to a prime minister in a modern constitutional monarchy compared to the supposed monarch. While An was in name rular in the highest heavens, it was Enlil who mostly did the actual ruling over the world.
By his wife Ninlil or Sud, Enlil was father of the moon god Nanna (in Akkadian Sin) and of Ninurta (also called Ningirsu). Enlil is sometimes father of Nergal, of Nisaba the goddess of grain, of Pabilsag who is sometimes equated with Ninurta, and sometimes of Enbilulu. By Ereshkigal Enlil was father of Namtar.
Enlil is associated with the ancient city of Nippur, and since Enlu with the determinative for "land" or "district" is a common method of writing the name of the city, it follows, apart from other evidence, that Enlil was originally the patron deity of Nippur.
At a very early period - prior to 3000 BC - Nippur had become the centre of a political district of considerable extent. Inscriptions found at Nippur, where extensive excavations were carried on during 1888*1900 by Messrs Peters and Haynes, under the auspices of the University of Pennsylvania, show that Enlil was the head of an extensive pantheon. Among the titles accorded to him are "king of lands," "king of heaven and earth" and "father of the gods".
His chief temple at Nippur was known as Ekur, signifying 'House of the mountain', and such was the sanctity acquired by this edifice that Babylonian and Assyrian rulers, down to the latest days, vied with one another in embellishing and restoring Enlil's seat of worship, and the name Ekur became the designation of a temple in general.
Grouped around the main sanctuary, there arose temples and chapels to the gods and goddesses who formed his court, so that Ekur became the name for an entire sacred precinct in the city of Nippur.
The name "mountain house" suggests a lofty structure and was perhaps the designation originally of the staged tower at Nippur, built in imitation of a mountain, with the sacred shrine of the god on the top.
When, with the political rise of Babylon as the centre of a great empire, Nippur yielded its prerogatives to the city over which Marduk presided, the attributes and the titles of Enlil were largely transferred to Marduk.
But Enlil did not, however, entirely lose his right to have any considerable political importance, while in addition the doctrine of a triad of gods symbolizing the three divisions - heavens, earth and water - assured to Enlil, to whom the earth was assigned as his province, his place in the religious system.
It was no doubt in part Enlil's position as the second figure of the triad that enabled him to survive the political eclipse of Nippur and made his sanctuary a place of pilgrimage to which Assyrian kings down to the days of Assur-bani-pal paid their homage equally with Babylonian rulers.
The Sumerian ideogram for Enlil or Ellil was formerly incorrectly read as Bel by scholars, but in fact Enlil was not especially given the title Bel 'Lord' more than many other gods.
The Babylonian god Marduk is mostly the god persistently called Bel in late Assyrian and Babylonian inscriptions and it is Marduk that mostly appears in Greek and Latin texts as Belos or Belus. References in older literature to Enlil as the old Bel and Marduk as the young Bel derive from this error in reading.




ANSHAR In Akkadian mythology and Sumerian mythology, Anshar (also Anshur, Ashur, Asshur) is the sky god. He is the husband of his sister Kishar; they are the children of Lahmu and Lahamu, and the parents of Anu and Ea (and, in some traditions, Enlil). He is sometimes depicted as having Ninlil as a consort. As Anshar, he is progenitor of the Akkadian pantheon; as Ashur, he is the head of the Assyrian pantheon. Anshar led the gods in the war against Tiamat.







Now you can take all these Gods and compare them to Kemetic mythology, Greek/Roman mythology, Native North/South American mythology and stories of creation, as well as most religions, including Chinese/Japanese (Tribe of Edom) and Hinduism and Krishnaism(if thats a word).

KidDiamonds617
03-04-2006, 01:51 PM
Someone was asking about extra-terrestrial scrolls .....

The Science has been explained .

Now it continues to go on and say we're Knights of the Celestial Galaxy

Doc even has his own land in Georgia!

Man I wouldn't mind going to the 19th Galaxy or in other words Planet
Riz-Q...

If there's life out there .. be asured that we're on a Need to know basis...

Maboya
03-04-2006, 03:18 PM
The Anunnaqi (known in the bible as the Nephilim - Nefilim - Elohim - Annunaki (http://www.crystalinks.com/nephilim.html)
meaning "Those who from Heaven to Earth came."

If you meant in Genesis 6, those were not 'from heaven' per se those were the sons of Adam, known in the Bible as the sons of God as were/are the Israelites.

The Sumerian King List (http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerhistory.html)records all the rulers of Earth back over 400,000 years. This huge stretch of time coupled with reigns into the thousands of years has caused most historians to reject its accuracy. However all the early rulers were allegedly gods - demi-gods or immortals.

The Bible also states gods ruled the earth, those were black/brown men, original men, but not beings from different planets.

The Annunaki are sometimes depicted as humanoid. At other times they are bird-headed with wings [Symbology - evolution of consiciousness - return to higher frequency of thought - alchemy]. Often they are Reptilian in appearance especially when depicted as warriors - [Reptilian Symbology - snake - dragons - reptiles = DNA - creation of the human bi-polar experiment.] Sometimes they are shown as a combination of several types of entities. All is myth, math, and metaphor, so look for the clues in every set of gods you read about, as they all follow the same patterns (http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html)that repeat in cycles or loops called Time. The patterns of their battles reflect reality as duality and are found within every pantheon of gods - the same characters playing different roles.

Good breakdown, except for that so-called reptilian symbology part. I don't know about any "experiment" but we know that original man learned alot from nature and with the snake/serpent it was no different.





]After the sons of God took human wives there were giants in the Earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became the mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


The Nefilim were upon the Earth, in those days and thereafter too, when the sons of the gods cohabitated with the daughters of the Adam,

This part they got twisted, the sons of God WERE the Adamites (Black men) who in turn intermingled with the daughters of men (mainly Cain's) -- those daughters were from the other nations around at the time.



and they bore children unto them. They were the mighty ones of Eternity - the people of the shem.'

The word "shem" means reknown, in case anybody confused it with the person named Shem in the Bible.



] Nefilim stems from the Semitic root NFL, 'to be cast down.'

It was their actions that resulted in them being cast down from a certain position on earth, not that they were literally cast down from some other planets, or space.



The goddess Ninhursag then disappeared so as not let sympathy for Enki change her mind about her sentence of death upon him. But she finally relented and returned to heal Enki. She created eight healing deities - eight more goddesses - one for each of Enki's ailing body parts. The goddess who healed Enki's rib was Nin-ti, a name that in Sumerian meant "lady of the rib," which describes a character who was to appear in a different role in Hebrew writings centuries later, a character to be called Eve.

This goddess was supposed to have healed Enki's rib. That's a far cry from being the woman made of a rib (which itself was symbolic to a close family member, a rib i.e. bone of my bone)


In Sumerian mythology and later for Assyrians and Babylonians, Anu was a sky-god, the god of heaven, lord of constellations, king of gods, spirits and demons, and dwelt in the highest heavenly regions. It was believed that he had the power to judge those who had committed crimes, and that he had created the stars as soldiers to destroy the wicked. He was the father of the Anunnaku (also spelled Anunnaki). In art he was sometimes depicted as a jackal. His attribute was the royal tiara, most times decorated with two pairs of bull horns.
He was also called An.

In Sumerian mythology, An was the god whose name was synonymous with the sun's zenith, or heaven. He was the oldest god in the Sumerian pantheon, and part of a triad including Enlil, god of the sky and Enki, god of water. He was called Anu by the Akkadians, rulers of Mesopotamia after the conquest of Sumer in 2334 BCE by King Sargon of Akkad. In Sumerian mythology and later for Assyrians and Babylonians, Anu was a sky-god, the god of heaven, lord of constellations, king of gods, spirits and demons, and dwelt in the highest heavenly regions. It was believed that he had the power to judge those who had committed crimes, and that he had created the stars as soldiers to destroy the wicked. He was the father of the Anunnaku (also spelled Anunnaki). In art he was sometimes depicted as a jackal. His attribute was the royal tiara, most times decorated with two pairs of bull horns.
By virtue of being the first figure in a triad consisting of Anu, Bel and Ea, Anu came to be regarded as the father and king of the gods. Anu is so prominently associated with the city of Erech in southern Babylonia that there are good reasons for believing this place to have been the original seat of the Anu cult. If this be correct, then the goddess Nana (or Ishtar) of Erech was presumably regarded as his consort.
The name of the god signifies the "high one" and he was probably a god of the atmospheric region above the earth--perhaps a storm god like Adad. However this may be, already in the old-Babylonian period, i.e. before Khammurabi, Anu was regarded as the god of the heavens and his name became in fact synonymous with the heavens, so that in some cases it is doubtful whether, under the term, the god or the heavens is meant.
It would seem from this that the grouping of the divine powers recognized in the universe into a triad symbolizing the three divisions, heavens, earth and the watery-deep, was a process of thought which had taken place before the third millennium.
To Anu was assigned the control of the heavens, to Bel the earth, and to Ea the waters.
The doctrine once established remained an inherent part of the Babylonian-Assyrian religion and led to the more or less complete disassociation of the three gods constituting the triad from their original local limitations.
An intermediate step between Anu viewed as the local deity of Erech (or some other centre), Bel as the god of Nippur, and Ea as the god of Eridu is represented by the prominence which each one of the centres associated with the three deities in question must have acquired, and which led to each one absorbing the qualities of other gods so as to give them a controlling position in an organized pantheon.
For Nippur we have the direct evidence that its chief deity, En-lil or Bel, was once regarded as the head of an extensive pantheon. The sanctity and, therefore, the importance of Eridu remained a fixed tradition in the minds of the people to the latest days, and analogy therefore justifies the conclusion that Anu was likewise worshipped in a centre which had acquired great prominence.
The summing-up of divine powers manifested in the universe in a threefold division represents an outcome of speculation in the schools attached to the temples of Babylonia, but the selection of Anu, Bel and Ea for the three representatives of the three spheres recognized, is due to the importance which, for one reason or the other, the centres in which Anu, Bel and Ea were worshipped had acquired in the popular mind.
Each of the three must have been regarded in his centre as the most important member in a larger or smaller group, so that their union in a triad marks also the combination of the three distinctive pantheons into a harmonious whole.In the astral theology of Babylonia and Assyria, Anu, Bel and Ea became the three zones of the ecliptic, the northern, middle and southern zone respectively.
The purely theoretical character of Anu is thus still further emphasized, and in the annals and votive inscriptions as well as in the incantations and hymns, he is rarely introduced as an active force to whom a personal appeal can be made. His name becomes little more than a synonym for the heavens in general and even his title as king or father of the gods has little of the personal element in it.
A consort Antum (or as some scholars prefer to read, Anatum) is assigned to him, on the theory that every deity must have a female associate, but Antum is a purely artificial product--a lifeless symbol playing even less of a part in what may be called the active pantheon than Anu.
In Hurrian mythology, Anu was the progenitor of all gods. His son Kumarbi bit off his genitals and spat out three deities, one of whom, Teshub, later deposed Kumarbi. He bit off the genitals of Anu and spat out three new gods. One of those, the storm god Teshub, later deposed Kumarbi. Scholars have pointed to the remarkable similarities between this Hurrian creation myth and the story of Ouranos, Kronos, and Zeus from Greek mythology. It's all recycled in the loops of time awith the same charcaters playing most of the roles - or one character playing them all.
According to the Earth Chronicles series by Zecharia Sitchin, (http://www.crystalinks.com/sitchen.html)the wife of Anu was a fertility goddess and the mother of the gods; her cult was centered in Munster. However, Anu was one of the Anunnaki who came from the planet Nibiru (Marduk).
According to Sitchin's theories on Sumerian legend and lore, the Anunnaki arrived first on Earth probably 400,000 years ago, looking for minerals, especially gold, which they found and mined gold in Africa. Sitchin may have confused the Mesopotamian god Anu with the Irish goddess Anann - or are they the same?




Frieze with Lion-Headed Eagle (Ninhursag) and Stags, copper, Temple at Tell al-Ubaid, 2500 BCE, h: 1.07 mFrom the Early Dynastic - Southern Mesopotamian Period, 2900 BCE - 2350 BCE - Found in Ubaid. This copper frieze was found in the temple at Ubaid, presumably to be placed over the doorway. It represents the storm-god Ninhursag (lady of the mountain), shown as a lion-headed eagle grasping two stags with her great talons. The panel has been cast in high relief, with the heads of the three beasts cast separately. Note that the head of the eagle breaks out of the border of the frieze.
In Sumerian mythology, Ninhursag (or Ki) was the earth and mother-goddess she usually appears as the sister of Enlil. Ninhursag means 'Lady of the Foothills'. She had many other names: Nintur 'Lady Birth', Ninmah 'Lady August', Dingirmah, Aruru, and as wife of Enki was usually called Damgalnunna.
In Akkadian she was Belit-ili 'Lady of the Gods' and Mama and as wife to Ea, Enki's Akkadian counterpart, she was called Damkina. Her prestige decreased as Ishtar's increased, but her aspect as Damkina mother of Marduk, the supreme god of Babylonia, still held a secure place in the pantheon.
In union with Enki she also bore Ninsar, goddess of the pasture. She was the chief nurse, the one in charge of medical facilities. In that role that the Goddess was called NINTI (lady-life). She was considered the Mother Goddess. She was nicknamed 'Mammu' - now called 'mother' 'mom'.
Ninhursag bore a male child to Enlil. His name was NIN.UR.TA (lord who completes the fountain). He was the son who to do battle for his father using bolts of lightening.
In Egypt sheplayed the roles of several creational goddesses - Maat (http://www.crystalinks.com/maat.html) -- Isis (http://www.crystalinks.com/isis.html) and Hathor (http://www.crystalinks.com/hathor.html) [Cow Goddess - Milk Symbology] Within his sacred precinct 'Mound of Creation' in Eridu, Enki unraveled the secrets of life and death. His emblem was two serpents [tiwn human DNA] entwined on a staff - the basis for the winged caduceus symbol used by modern Western medicine. Enki was the god who created the first humans. His sacred number is 40.
Enki was the leader of the first sons of Anu that came down to Earth. He played the pivotal role in saving humanity from the global Deluge. He defied the Anunnaki ruling council and told Ziusudra (the Sumerian Noah) how to build a ship on which to save humanity from the killing flood. Ea would have been over 120 sars old at that time, yet his activity with humanity continued to be actively reported for thousands of years thereafter.




Enki's youngest son, Ningizzida, was Lord of the Tree of Truth, in Mesopotamia. He played the role of Thoth (http://www.crystalinks.com/thoth.html) in Egypt and Hermes (http://www.crystalinks.com/hermes.html) the Magician - the Alchemist. The ancient Mystery School Teachings of Thoth were past down to his Initiates who became the priests. They hid the secret knowledge of creation, passing it down through the ages - Sacred Geometry. (http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html)
Enki was a deity in Sumerian mythology, later known as Ea in Babylonian mythology. The name Ea is of Sumerian origin and was written by means of two signs signifying "house" and "water". Enki was the deity of water, intelligence and creation. The main temple of Enki was the so-called -engur-ra, the "house of the (water-)deep"; it was in Eridu, which was in the wetlands of the Euphrates valley at some distance from the Persian Gulf. He was the keeper of the holy powers called Me. The exact meaning of his name is not sure: the common translation is "Lord of the Earth": the Sumerian en is translated as "lord", ki as "earth"; but there are theories that ki in this name has another origin.He is the lord of the Apsu, the watery abyss. His name is possibly an epithet bestowed on him for the creation of the first man, [Adamu or Adapa. His symbols included a goat and a fish, which later combined into a single beast, the Capricorn, which became one of the signs of the zodiac. Enki had a penchant for beer and a string of incestuous affairs. First, he and his consort Ninhursag had a daughter Ninsar. He then had intercourse with Ninsar who gave birth to Ninkurra. Finally, he had intercourse with Ninkurra, who gave birth to Uttu.
According to Sumerian mythology, Enki allowed humanity to survive the Deluge designed to kill them. After Enlil, An and the rest of the apparent Council of Deities, decided that Man would suffer total annihilation, he covertly rescued the human man Ziusudra by either instructing him to build some kind of an boat for his family, or by bringing him into the heavens in a magic boat. This is apparently the oldest surviving source of the Noah's Ark myth and other parallel Middle Eastern Deluge myths.

All this is all well and good if ones interest is in the Sumerian interpretation of cosmology, theology etc, but when it arbitrarily starts making connections to Biblical events as if it were the origin of those events it's being deceptive. Why? Because the ancestors of the Hebrews and Shemites were around during those times and theirs is their own account of the ancient past.



Now you can take all these Gods and compare them to Kemetic mythology, Greek/Roman mythology, Native North/South American mythology and stories of creation, as well as most religions, including Chinese/Japanese (Tribe of Edom) and Hinduism and Krishnaism(if thats a word).

The Chinese/Japanese are not the tribe of Edom, not according to the Bible and not according to history. The Edomites and the nation of Edom were the Greco-Romans, and today are the European - American - Caucasian so-called white people of the world.

V4D3R
03-04-2006, 05:59 PM
If you meant in Genesis 6, those were not 'from heaven' per se those were the sons of Adam, known in the Bible as the sons of God as were/are the Israelites.



The Bible also states gods ruled the earth, those were black/brown men, original men, but not beings from different planets.



Good breakdown, except for that so-called reptilian symbology part. I don't know about any "experiment" but we know that original man learned alot from nature and with the snake/serpent it was no different.










This part they got twisted, the sons of God WERE the Adamites (Black men) who in turn intermingled with the daughters of men (mainly Cain's) -- those daughters were from the other nations around at the time.





The word "shem" means reknown, in case anybody confused it with the person named Shem in the Bible.





It was their actions that resulted in them being cast down from a certain position on earth, not that they were literally cast down from some other planets, or space.





This goddess was supposed to have healed Enki's rib. That's a far cry from being the woman made of a rib (which itself was symbolic to a close family member, a rib i.e. bone of my bone)




All this is all well and good if ones interest is in the Sumerian interpretation of cosmology, theology etc, but when it arbitrarily starts making connections to Biblical events as if it were the origin of those events it's being deceptive. Why? Because the ancestors of the Hebrews and Shemites were around during those times and theirs is their own account of the ancient past.





The Chinese/Japanese are not the tribe of Edom, not according to the Bible and not according to history. The Edomites and the nation of Edom were the Greco-Romans, and today are the European - American - Caucasian so-called white people of the world.

Your a sheep. You been hood-whipped ! Bamboozeled

V4D3R
03-04-2006, 06:08 PM
Mayoba -

The term Shem - I'm sure you know what a Shem is hehe!

You basically are saying that science and facts are wrong and that you are right.

In other words, your saying that the hebrews and Egytians were around the time of the Sumerians. Thats totaly wrong man. The oldest and first civilisation comes from The Sumer area around the 3 rivers that pour into the Persian Gulf. There is 2 rivers now, Euphrates, Tigris and the third has evaporated and mixed into the Sahara.

Little did you know that anunnaqi have been demonified by the Ancient Catholic Church. When you read that Bible and it's accounts and stories, When you read the Quoran, they all talk about the same original story.

Read them all like I did them maybe you'll see the light. Read them all like Doc did as well. The story is actually pretty interesting when read from Enki's perspective.

It's funny how they implemented a plan for religion and it still messes you all up to this day.

Maboya
03-04-2006, 06:53 PM
Your a sheep. You been hood-whipped ! Bamboozeled


Show and Prove. Then Show and Prove how "sheep" say that Adam was black, that his sons were black, and that those gods and sons of God mentioned in the Bible were Black people.

Maboya
03-04-2006, 07:09 PM
Mayoba -

The term Shem - I'm sure you know what a Shem is hehe!

I alluded to the definition in my previous post.

You basically are saying that science and facts are wrong and that you are right.

Show and Prove that I'm saying that. Where and When?

In other words, your saying that the hebrews and Egytians were around the time of the Sumerians. Thats totaly wrong man.

I specifically mentioned the Shemites as well. And as for the Egyptians or rather the Kemetians - not everyone agrees (specifically students of Metu Neter) that the Sumerians were first and that Kemet learned, or were an offshoot, from them.

some The oldest and first civilisation comes from The Sumer area around the 3 rivers that pour into the Persian Gulf. There is 2 rivers now, Euphrates, Tigris and the third has evaporated and mixed into the Sahara.

See above.


Little did you know that anunnaqi have been demonified by the Ancient Catholic Church.

Who cares what the devil demonifies? Anyway, what is your source for that?


When you read that Bible and it's accounts and stories, When you read the Quoran, they all talk about the same original story.

It's about a SIMILAR story, not the SAME story. That's why I stated the Shemites and the Hebrews had their own version of that story.

All this is all well and good if ones interest is in the Sumerian interpretation of cosmology, theology etc, but when it arbitrarily starts making connections to Biblical events as if it were the origin of those events it's being deceptive. Why? Because the ancestors of the Hebrews and Shemites were around during those times and theirs is their own account of the ancient past.
-- Maboya


Read them all like I did them maybe you'll see the light.

I have read them all that's why I am able to comment on them.

And what "light" are you refering to here? Do you mean Sumerian cosmology and theology? If so, instead of asserting that you possess that light (knowledge) why don't you instead ADD ON to that which you know, not including the BASICS that you copy and pasted into you previous post.



Read them all like Doc did as well. The story is actually pretty interesting when read from Enki's perspective.

See above. And "Doc" (Verb sense of "alter, disguise, falsify" is first recorded 1774) is right.


It's funny how they implemented a plan for religion and it still messes you all up to this day.

Show and Prove that the 'religion they implemented' teach any of the things mentioned in my post.

V4D3R
03-05-2006, 03:14 PM
I alluded to the definition in my previous post.



Show and Prove that I'm saying that. Where and When?



I specifically mentioned the Shemites as well. And as for the Egyptians or rather the Kemetians - not everyone agrees (specifically students of Metu Neter) that the Sumerians were first and that Kemet learned, or were an offshoot, from them.



See above.




Who cares what the devil demonifies? Anyway, what is your source for that?




It's about a SIMILAR story, not the SAME story. That's why I stated the Shemites and the Hebrews had their own version of that story.






I have read them all that's why I am able to comment on them.

And what "light" are you refering to here? Do you mean Sumerian cosmology and theology? If so, instead of asserting that you possess that light (knowledge) why don't you instead ADD ON to that which you know, not including the BASICS that you copy and pasted into you previous post.





See above. And "Doc" (Verb sense of "alter, disguise, falsify" is first recorded 1774) is right.




Show and Prove that the 'religion they implemented' teach any of the things mentioned in my post.

Ahight - I will post and quote tommorow on this with straight clarity for you that will show and prove.

Today is a Day of Celebration.

iniquity
03-07-2006, 12:55 AM
there was four military ships following niburu,one of them crashed and went half way into the earth - i believe that the great pyramid was built on top of this "hole"

Read this article today & it reminded me of your post ... :looking:

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4779482.stm

V4D3R
03-07-2006, 03:41 AM
Ha - you beat me to it iniquity.

Could be your right Sunny about your guess of the West Wind crash site.

I was thinking it was the Pacific Rim. The Sun is warming up down there. Going to heat up the super volcanoes. That will spew ashes of sulfur all over this bitch and cover the Earth and let Her cool down.

Maboya, when it comes to the Anunnaqi, they were more then one race. Marduk for example was half Draconian half Niburan (Rizq)- a reptilian race that did inter-marry racialy for political power purposes. Enki married a Draconian princess named Damkina.

The Bible also states gods ruled the earth, those were black/brown men, original men, but not beings from different planets.

They describe the first Adamu they make be dark red in color (which in my opinion is black/brown as well) , dark red could also be called maroon.

A name will you give him? Enki inquired. A Being he is, not a creature!
Ninmah cast her hand upon the newborn's body, with her fingers his dark red skin she
caressed.
Adamu I shall call him! Ninmah was saying. One Who Like Earth's Clay Is, that will be
his name!

We can attest to that.

But they made others. With 3 different kind of primate from this planet. They intermingled the races from the get go to get the "In our image" aspect of gene manipulation like we do with dogs and all that.

They kept failing until one day they made a clay jar with sterile clay. The primate gene did not mix well when not in clay.

After awhile the other Niburans- the Igigi on Mars and orbiting the Earth and this solar system, they landed to come on Earth to rest with their bretheren down here. They saw that the Daughter's of the Earth were beautiful and mated with them.( Sailors coming off a long ass stretch at sea/space)

The thing to not forget is that there were more than one race on that planet/ship.

We get lied about the location of Niburu. We get distracted. What about the 1997 CNN news story they made disappear about the discovery of a large extra-solar object approaching us?

It's United Nations on that ship- think some might be suprised by that.



The word Shem in Kemetian means "To go"

A shem to the Sumerian "Gods" was a Rocketship.


Now- the most compelling evidence for me to date that proves the Anunnaqi - Sumerian "Gods" - Kemetic "Gods" are one and the same is

Marduk. He's like Marius in Queen of the Damned. He's leaves his mark wherever he went.

Marduk built a "Mountain" with his shem and it's beams. Beside the "Mountain" he built a giant stone Lion and put his face on it. The Lion was to be the place of the Shems. The top of the "Mountain" held a golden cap with rare gems of power.



Where did I get this info?

14 scrolls they found in ancient biblical Nippur.

Impatient, Ea donned his Fish's suit; within his chest his heart was like a drum beating.
Into the marsh he jumped, toward its edge hurried steps he directed.
High were the marshes flooding, deeper was the bottom than he expected.
72

He changed his gait to swimming, with bold strokes forward he advanced.
As dry land he was approaching, green meadows he could see.
Then his feet touched firm ground; he stood up and by walking he continued.

To be continued - late n tired

Maboya
03-07-2006, 05:15 AM
They describe the first Adamu they make be dark red in color (which in my opinion is black/brown as well)

Yes that is your opinion, but the FACT is different shades of brown to so-called black is NOT red.

The Devil in the Bible is described as being the color Red (AKJV - Revelation 12:3 &9), known as the Dragon, they're a race of people (Genesis 25:25, 36:1, Revelation 2:10), identified in the Bible, as well as in history.

A name will you give him? Enki inquired. A Being he is, not a creature!
Ninmah cast her hand upon the newborn's body, with her fingers his dark red skin she
caressed.
Adamu I shall call him! Ninmah was saying. One Who Like Earth's Clay Is, that will be
his name!

Listen, all shades of the color Red (Dark Red included) is the complexion of the physical counterparts to the spiritual demon Satan.

Adam, and the orginal people of the earth were not red or dark red but so-called Black, which is Dark Brown, to lighter shades of brown.

Adam was created of the ground which is Brown, the rich soil is Dark Brown. (called Black)

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Jer 14:2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

Sirach (Apocrypha) chapter 33:10 And all men are from the ground, and Adam was created of earth:

Adam
Biblical name of the first man, from Heb. adam "man," lit. "(the one formed from the) ground" (Heb. adamah "ground"); cf. L. homo "man," humanus "human," humus "earth, ground, soil."

http://www.greatspice.com/pages/_page_photos/rich_soil.jpg

The person holding that rich BROWN soil is the one whose RED.

Here's a color chart (http://www.dotservant.com/htmltutorial/net216-2.gif), and a eye specialist (http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=eye+specialist&near=New+York,+NY&radius=0.0&latlng=40714167,-74006389,4006898116271066197&output=html) to help you distinguish between the two.

For you Muslims, you can read 15. Al-Hijr
(In the Name of Allh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

26. And indeed, We created man from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud.

28. And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "I am going to create a man (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud.


And ALL the original images of the prophets and saints, called ICONS were of black people, brown skinned people, in case somebody wants to get dumb and say those scriptures above doesn't identify their color.




The word Shem in Kemetian means "To go"

In the original Hebrew it means Reknown, Famous, or Name. But anyway, what is your source?

A shem to the Sumerian "Gods" was a Rocketship.

Source, please.

14 scrolls they found in ancient biblical Nippur.

Whose they? When did "they" find these 14 scrolls? Do you have a source?

MoT
03-07-2006, 11:14 AM
important is that gold is the best solution for our ozone layer, many scientists agree on that... anyone can go n ask.

Maboya... i'm a bit sceptical about what Vader was stating above but it is much more "bulletproof" than ANY and all the other theories of our life on earth( history and development )

i also belive that even jesus and his mother were black but thats not even the point Vader was makin...

you dont belive the evolution theory as i suppose and thats not bad but to tell you in short our genetical code was altered/enhanced in order to enslave us to dig gold ( supposedly: archeologists in africa around some gold mines found a sort of tool that they guessed to be around 100,000 years old but yea everyone laughed because it was "impossible" )

heard about the book of the dead ? in a passage containing a confession to the lord of righteousness, except for sabbath it is the same as the 10 commandements from the old testament ... HOW on earth is that possible ?

also with any theory of the oldest civilisations you could possibly come up will not be older than 20 000 years.. many objects on this earth prove that wrong

moses ? akhenaton ? ring bells ? some people put a = between the 2 names

Baalbek ? thats human ? you kiddin right ?!!!!!!

alright ill give you some sneak peeks..

in 1996 HAN PING CHEN, an authority on the ancient Chinese Shang dynasty, confirmed that markings found on Central American Olmec figures dated to more than 3000 years old were clearly archaic Chinese characters. ( of course that cannot be done independently)

few unexplained sites such as stonehenge, silbury hills, easter island, the peruvian Nazca lines, great serpent mound in ohio... cuneiform Babylonian tablets located in the british museum (WHY THERE!) describe the phases of venus, four moons of jupiter, and seven saturnian satellites and please tell me they had telescopes in babylon.. or that their ancestors just told them so... please

also cant explain the builders of the sphinx ... because its been there for longer than even the Sumers... oh yea not everyone agrees on them being the oldest civilisation but those that do say they just popped up 6000 B.C. and dissapeared the same round 2000 b.c. (more or less)

jim marrs - rule by secrecy is one of the main sources im comin from with great breakdown of the biblical texts so if you're not ignorant you will find it and read it...

also try connecting the recent events with Izraelis, Judaism, even mozes(and his egyptian connections) and it does make sense (they the chosen ones?!) e.g. why no izraeli citizen were in wtc 1,2,7 oh yea they relocated a week prior because the wtc lease was too expensive ;)


history is important but only future is ahead!

Dirty Knowledge
03-07-2006, 11:34 AM
Ya'll motherfuckas believe ANYTHING. Nigga said "that book sounds interesting" lmfao.

MoT
03-07-2006, 11:37 AM
never wrote i belive what i did write but if u try to boil em brain cells 4 a minute maybe you'll figure somethin more than darwins theory

Maboya
03-07-2006, 06:11 PM
Maboya... i'm a bit sceptical about what Vader was stating above but it is much more "bulletproof" than ANY and all the other theories of our life on earth( history and development )

What specifically are you refering to?


i also belive that even jesus and his mother were black but thats not even the point Vader was makin...

Why believe? All the earliest depictions were of two Black people. There were even people in Asia, Africa, and Europe who were secretly into Kemetic teachings who were outwardly Christian who passed off depictions of Auset and Horus as the Madonna and Child, how would've that been possible if the latter were not Black?


you dont belive the evolution theory as i suppose and thats not bad but to tell you in short our genetical code was altered/enhanced in order to enslave us to dig gold ( supposedly: archeologists in africa around some gold mines found a sort of tool that they guessed to be around 100,000 years old but yea everyone laughed because it was "impossible" )

Source?


heard about the book of the dead ?

I heard of it, but thats not its actual name.


in a passage containing a confession to the lord of righteousness, except for sabbath it is the same as the 10 commandements from the old testament ... HOW on earth is that possible ?

If you would've studied closer, according to the Bible, Moses and the Israelites knew those laws BEFORE they were given to them as a set table of laws in the wilderness. Their forefathers knew them (Adam, Noah, Shem, Eber, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob), going all the way back to the first people. In fact they were given the law two times in the wilderness. Today, God's people are still being taught the universal law which they must live to have peace, balance, wisdom etc.

also with any theory of the oldest civilisations you could possibly come up will not be older than 20 000 years.. many objects on this earth prove that wrong

I'm not sure what you're implying here, but by whose science are you basing your assertion that "many objects on this earth prove that wrong"??



moses ? akhenaton ? ring bells ? some people put a = between the 2 names

Yeah, so? Many more say it's BS. The only two people I really heard advocate that was Rohl and another scholar, a so-called Arab.


Baalbek ? thats human ? you kiddin right ?!!!!!!

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alright ill give you some sneak peeks..

in 1996 HAN PING CHEN, an authority on the ancient Chinese Shang dynasty, confirmed that markings found on Central American Olmec figures dated to more than 3000 years old were clearly archaic Chinese characters. ( of course that cannot be done independently)

Everyones from the East, and everyone (original people) at one time shared an original culture and language.

The Chinese of today didn't have a damn thing to do with the Olmecs. The Shang were Black people.


jim marrs - rule by secrecy is one of the main sources im comin from with great breakdown of the biblical texts so if you're not ignorant you will find it and read it...

Jim Marrs has some shit, but he's still just a so-called Christian evangelist who writes conspiracy books.


also try connecting the recent events with Izraelis, Judaism, even mozes(and his egyptian connections) and it does make sense (they the chosen ones?!) e.g. why no izraeli citizen were in wtc 1,2,7 oh yea they relocated a week prior because the wtc lease was too expensive ;)

Your points here have no discernable connection. "Izraelis, Judaism, even mozes (and his egyptian connections) and it does make sense (they the chosen ones?!)" - and - "e.g. why no izraeli citizen were in wtc 1,2,7 oh yea they relocated a week prior because the wtc lease was too expensive".

tonygusto
03-07-2006, 06:50 PM
Read this article today & it reminded me of your post ... :looking:

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4779482.stm

im lost.

so a space ship crashed in this area, and beings from somewhere else built a pyramid on top of the hole? the giza pyramid?

V4D3R
03-07-2006, 10:33 PM
Yes that is your opinion, but the FACT is different shades of brown to so-called black is NOT red.
So your saying that my Jamaican ancesters - the Maroons - where not black?

They were called that- and they were african- because yes my friend- black people's skin is really a shade of red.

Where's does brown come from Mayoba?

Have you ever met a "Black" person?

Does the color red or dark red make you think of
American Natives?

Now pertaining to the contradiction you set yourself in Mayoba.

Who cares what the devil demonifies? Anyway, what is your source for that?
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Jer 14:2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

Sirach (Apocrypha) chapter 33:10 And all men are from the ground, and Adam was created of earth:

This is all you using the doctrine of this "Demon"

The bottom line is this my friends- there will be some who agree and some who disagree. That's my impression on what "Good and Evil" is. There is no Satan, there is no spook. There is nothing but you and your mind, soul and the Supreme Creator.

We all together in this bitch. The thing is when some are trying to reach the next plain, you got these crabs in the bucket we got called Earth.

The source of an archeological find...hmmm.

About the Hebrews being around as long as the Sumerians? Where did you get your source?

The FACT is, the Akkadians spoke Semetic- therefore that would make them the source of the Hebrews. And they in turn were taught their codes from the Hindu's. The whole story of Christ and the Creation, it all came from the Sumerians and Hindus.

Now- where do you think the Hindu's come from?

Maboya
03-08-2006, 06:45 AM
So your saying that my Jamaican ancesters - the Maroons - where not black?

Where did I say that the Maroons were not black? Stop throwing bullshit in the game. Of course they were Black, and some were obviously of Amerindian descent as well, when they intermarried with my ancestors in the Caribbean.


They were called that-

Maroon has nothing to do with color.

maroon (v.)
"put ashore on a desolate island or coast," 1724 (implied in marooning), from maron (n.) "fugitive black slave in the jungles of W.Indies and Dutch Guyana" (1626), from Fr. marron, said to be a corruption of Sp. cimmaron "wild, untamed," from O.Sp. cimarra "thicket," probably from cima "summit, top" (from L. cyma "sprout"), with a notion of living wild in the mountains.

Not the noun 'maroon':

maroon (n.)
1594, "large sweet chestnut of southern Europe," from Fr. marron "chestnut," from dialect of Lyons, ult. from a word in a pre-Roman language, perhaps Ligurian; or from Gk. maraon "sweet chestnut." Sense of "very dark reddish-brown color" is first recorded 1791, from Fr. couleur marron.


and they were african-

Yes, I knew very well where they came from, thank you.

because yes my friend- black people's skin is really a shade of red.

That is only your assertion here. But as for Maroon in the Caribbean it had nothing to do with color.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroon

Also show me in the color chart how black and brown is red or shades of red.

Unless you're saying here that YOU personally share a complexion with Europeans who have an obvious pink and red shading....because you're NOT speaking for people of color (coming in shades of brown like the earths soil) worldwide.


Where's does brown come from Mayoba?

Brown comes from Dark Brown. In humans it's called having Melanin.

melanin
"black pigment found in animal bodies," 1843, Mod.L., with chemical suffix -in, from Gk. melas (gen. melanos) "black," from PIE base *mel- "dark, soiled, dirty" (cf. Skt. malinah "dirty, stained, black," Lith. melynas "blue," L. mulleus "reddish").

Hey, it looks like at least one definition agrees with you though, they say melanin means "reddish".

But they're so ass backwards with that one that before they said it means REDDISH they were saying it means BLUE and BLACK.

:no:

That's the Devil throwing confusion on the word..... which obviously means BLACK and DARK/BROWN.

Here's some more on melanin:

Melanesian
1849, in ref. to Melanesia, one of three large divisions of Pacific islands, from Gk. melano-, comb. form of melas (gen. melanos) "black" (see melanin) + nesos "island." Modeled after Polynesia and meant to signify "the islands inhabited by blacks."

No "red" there either, so moving on.....


Have you ever met a "Black" person?

Let's not play a game of semantics. It's obvious that I meant DARK BROWN everytime I said BLACK. Had you bothered to read my last post where I said BLACK is really DARK BROWN you wouldn't had to have asked this question.



Does the color red or dark red make you think of
American Natives?

Nope, it makes me think of the Devil who falsely attributed their own color on the Natives knowing the scriptures say the DEVIL is RED.

Fact is, that color was being falsely placed on to SOME of the Natives because it was the color of the WAR-PAINT that some used (sometimes it was BLACK, sometimes it was RED) when in battle with the EUROPEAN. Since they were in CONSTANT warfare with the FORKED TONGUE it's not hard to see how some so-called white men started calling them RED MEN.



Now pertaining to the contradiction you set yourself in Mayoba.


[B]

This is all you using the doctrine of this "Demon"

The Devil didn't write that the first people were formed from the soil of the earth. Just because some of them brought the Bible over here to the Amerikkkas it doesn't mean they wrote it or that it's there history. That came from the Middle East way way before it was translated into the English language.

That's why I even brought out the verses in the Quran, which you convienently omitted from your reply.



The bottom line is this my friends- there will be some who agree and some who disagree. That's my impression on what "Good and Evil" is. There is no Satan, there is no spook.

Are there invisible forces in the universe that influence your existence called gravity, oxygen, energy/chi, yes or no?

Satan is a destructive energy that works against nature/God, if there is no such force at work in the world (negative) what do you call the pollution of the earth the last 200 years, slavery and genocide against original people, man made diseases etc? Or were/are these things also the work of YOUR SPOOK ALIEN GODS that you previously said used "our genetical code" to "alter/enhance" us "in order to enslave us to dig gold"???


About the Hebrews being around as long as the Sumerians? Where did you get your source?

Should someone who asserts alien gods had human ancestors as slaves diggng for gold be asking for a source when they provide none for their own assertions?....and you also missed many of my points/questions posed to you in my previous post. But anyway, my source is the BIBLE sun, Genesis 10 tells you the so-called Hamites (Khem) were building civilizations in that area, if the Bible is a work of "demons" why is it telling you it was AFRICANS who built those first civilizations (after the Deluge)?

Gen 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
Gen 10:11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,
Gen 10:12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same a great city.


The Shemites and Hebrews (originating from EBER, not Abraham) it says were also in the East.

Gen 10:21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were [children] born.
Gen 10:22 The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.
Gen 10:30 And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Sephar a mount of the east.
Gen 10:31 These [are] the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations


Study the ancient history that some of the Black historians were bringing out (some over a hundred years ago) that tell you the ELAMITES (a factual people) were around in the area of Sumer as well, as within the Bible. Elam and the Dravidians have been said to be the same people. Abraham, some say, had a whole East Indian origin or kinship (just look at the name). We know the original people of these areas were Black.

Black Hebrews?

The very words cause many people to grin at what appears to be simply a play on words. No one reads about such people in european authored history books and there are only a few references to "Ethiopian Jews" in white Jewish sources. Yet Black Hebrews have existed since biblical times. In fact, they are the original or proto-typical Hebrews.

Their story begins with the Patriarch Abraham (2117-1942 B.C.), a native of the Sumerian city of Ur in ancient Mesopotamia. Archaeological discoveries have proven that the earliest inhabitants of southern Mesopotamia were members of the "Brown Race," i.e., the Negroid branch of humanity.

It has been confirmed that the ancient Sumerians were akin to the modern Black Dravidians of India. The Sumerians also had an affinity with a people known as the Elamites, the very first Semitic group mentioned in the Bible (Gen. 10:22). The Elamites were a black-skinned and woolly-haired people as the colorful glazed artwork on the royal palace walls of the ancient Persian city of Susa clearly show.Thus Abraham, the native of Sumerian and the founding father of the Israelite nation, was a black man. The black racial origins of the Patriarchs is not based on mere conjecture, it is in complete agreement with the picture one gets from examining the identity of the earliest inhabitants of southern Mesopotamia.

Lewis saw no white-skinned people in the beginning of human history. Of Noah's three sons, Ham, Shem, and Japhet, he wrote: "To the descendants of Ham, I have generally given the name of Ethiopians -- blacks with frizzled or curly hair. The descendants of Shem were denominated Assyrians and Syrians -- blacks with long straight hair."8 * As for the progeny of Japhet, Lewis writes they "were also denominated colored people by the Grecian historian."9

http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/nile.html



The FACT is, the Akkadians spoke Semetic- therefore that would make them the source of the Hebrews.

So what if they spoke what you call "Semetic"? They all had a similar language back then.

And they in turn were taught their codes from the Hindu's.

Eloborate on these so-called "codes".


The whole story of Christ and the Creation, it all came from the Sumerians and Hindus.

They all knew the same thing, all the stories are similar because it was taught by the first humans (black/brown people/gods), and it was/is already written in the stars.

It was the European who said everything came from a book called the Bible, knowing full well that the Bible [i]was not even in existence in those ancient times, the Shemites and Hebrews in fact had an oral law and kept scrolls that they kept their knowledge in, not "Bibles" -- these forked tongue also knew that at one time a common culture and knowledge existed which got dispersed to the world with different interpretations (you say the Hindus and Sumerians gave it to the Hebrews, I say they already had it, and have the original). What the Euro-pion did was use the Bible as their front (faking like it was their own writings) during the Renasaince (peep game) and came to the original peoples lands to give them a distorted white-washed dumbed down exoteric view of what it says..... and if that wasn't diabolical enough they later (18-19th centuries) tried to discredit that very Bible with their "archeological findings" and "theories" (they purposely tried to make it 'cool', 'intelligent' or 'educated even 'modern'' to diss the Bible and other ancient records) knowing that many of the ancients already had the knowledge even before the European or the English Bible was written (from Mexico, to Kemet, to Asia). The Bible contains the Truth (for those with eyes, and ears, to hear and see), as do many other ancient sources. (it's part of the Satanic Masonic game however to alter certain things, and it's part of Gods plan to conceal it for us kings to dig those jewels back up)

Proverbs 25:2 [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.


Now- where do you think the Hindu's come from?

The region of the Indus.


PEACE

V4D3R
03-08-2006, 07:48 AM
I agree and disagree with alot of things you say Mayoba.

My guess is that your Boricua?

If so then our people have a history.

Now ask yourself this question. Why does V4D3R think that these "Spook" alien "Gods" might exist?

I might of seen them a few times because when I prayed to the Creator for a sign he showed me ufo's. I am not sure about who I seen though. But I don't think it's how we would picture things to happen when I will all become clearer.

I'll build later when back from work.

Maboya
03-08-2006, 09:30 AM
I agree and disagree with alot of things you say Mayoba.

My guess is that your Boricua?

If so then our people have a history.

Now ask yourself this question. Why does V4D3R think that these "Spook" alien "Gods" might exist?

I can't answer that, only you can explain how something which you previously said don't exist (spooks) you believe might exist (spook alien gods).

I called them spooks because they're just as much in the realm of belief as are the Roman Catholic angels and demons.

Original man obviously had contact with beings with god like ability (as attested to in the Bible, Ezekiel, etc), and possibly kept close contact with them (see Nazca lines) but it doesn't mean they were different then them in appearence (black/brown/original), or that they once had them as slaves. That's almost the same theory the Europion came up with saying these Blacks and Natives couldn't have built these technological marvels and shit, and that they must've been built by "aliens from another world".


I might of seen them a few times because when I prayed to the Creator for a sign he showed me ufo's.

Original man obviously had contact with beings with god like ability (as attested to in the Bible, Ezekiel, etc), and possibly kept close contact with them (see Nazca lines) but it doesn't mean they were different then them

When the first official and real (cuz they do plan a fake one) contact pops off in this Western hell civilization, trust that it will not be little green men, or big headed bug eyed bullshit "greys". Bust how some whites worldwide gonna be droppin dead from seeing giant sized black men and women hopping out of them ships ready to kick whiteys ass (and some of you black devils out there as well). Who you think their leader is?...... Some of you heard it here first.

MoT
03-30-2006, 08:58 AM
alright maboya you have all the rights to quote everything that was too abstract.. best is that you leave what i wrote back there and focus on whats below..

1 thing im really concerned about was your question mark when i mentioned BAALBEK...

that is a site in Lebanon and there lays the worlds largest one piece stone (also the heaviest) and probably you didnt visit the place.. (there's also temple built on a stone platform and many tombs around)

Hadjar el Gouble (the Stone of the South) 1,170 metric tons
http://www.geocities.com/jirimruzek/ballom.jpg
that should give you an idea of what it is

the thing is that todays technology couldnt build it so precisely as it has been done.. also not everyone can agree on the age of that site

so how can such a !BIG! piece of history and architecture be surrounded by myth and leave so many unanswered questions...


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i dont give a damn if a person is a christian,muslim,buddhist,hinduist,shintoist, or any type of belief based on respect (which excludes judaism for claiming superiority over other beliefs in front of god) and thought is what counts not appearance. We ALL came from 1 and thats that either way so we all can equally claim the right for power so all in all buck fush cause i dont think hes human at all.

read some of em "conspiracy" books... sometimes they seem more authentic than reality... nah but they're usually at least a good sci-fi read unlike the daily news..


this is just a mind teaser but even tho i dont really think its like that you can never prove that argument as false...http://www.simulation-argument.com/

MoT
03-30-2006, 09:07 AM
When the first official and real (cuz they do plan a fake one) contact pops off in this Western hell civilization, trust that it will not be little green men, or big headed bug eyed bullshit "greys". Bust how some whites worldwide gonna be droppin dead from seeing giant sized black men and women hopping out of them ships ready to kick whiteys ass (and some of you black devils out there as well). Who you think their leader is?...... Some of you heard it here first.


WOOW! i missed this when writing my post but basically thats what we been talkin bout here and all the stupid little statements i made.. with the chinese n olmeca n blabla all the shit i wrote was pretty much about what you just wrote... whatever their names annunaki or nephilim or whatever . the bible is full of remarks that point the way... if you belive what you wrote up there it means human civilisation is way older than we would ever think.. and btw most probably this planet has already suffered nuclear warfare .. noticed the recent discovery of a 19 miles wide crater in the sahara desert ? could be from a meteor but...

Malcom Guevera
03-30-2006, 04:51 PM
I just have reviewed this thread and disagree with many things. I whole heartedly have an understanding on the topic.

When you get into the teachings of the TORAH and speak of the history of ADAM, please understand that he was created from what had existed as a PRIMATE and cross bread from EVE who was the original woman. She was a reptile if you agree with the term. These were the GODZ/LIZARDZ that came from SPACE. They created ADAM as a worker, one to do the work that the CELESTIAL BEINGS/ORIGINAL MAN disagreed to do.

All the technology we have now is recycled and all the DNA science we speak of today has been done and used before just on a differant degree/level.

Study ya lessons...............

Maboya
03-30-2006, 05:00 PM
Adam was a blackman according to the Torah (the dust/soil is black/dark brown). All that "reptilian" shit is code for the red dragon/the serprent a/k/a Satan the devil who were physically the people of Cain - later reincarnated after the flood as the Edomites (red people/lacking melanin) - who we know today as the historical Caucasian-Greco-Romans - and in the last days are known as the "white" European and "forked tongue" American.

MoT
03-30-2006, 05:41 PM
Malcolm that would make noah's ark just a dna bank... yes the technology was there and it was superior to the one of today... also if we were created to do a certain job here (probably mining or harvest of some sort - labor work) that wouldn't give them a reason to leave us alone if the work was done so either some work isnt done yet or it just gets way deeper where wildest imagination is just a mild cup of coffee

Maboya ... in europe there are many nations that differ from the greco-romans who are truly caucasians but those are the western and northern europeans.. rest is either waay too mixed with ppl who came from asia(actually slavs came from asia because they were pushed by the huns to the west), north africa and the middle east..