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Maboya
03-18-2006, 05:25 PM
Columbus Day Celebration? Think Again...

by Thom Hartmann


"Gold is most excellent; gold constitutes treasure; and he who has it does all he wants in the world, and can even lift souls up to Paradise."
-- Christopher Columbus, 1503 letter to the king and queen of Spain.

"Christopher Columbus not only opened the door to a New World, but also set an example for us all by showing what monumental feats can be accomplished through perseverance and faith."
--George H.W. Bush, 1989 speech

If you fly over the country of Haiti on the island of Hispaniola, the island on which Columbus landed, it looks like somebody took a blowtorch and burned away anything green. Even the ocean around the port capital of Port au Prince is choked for miles with the brown of human sewage and eroded topsoil. From the air, it looks like a lava flow spilling out into the sea.

The history of this small island is, in many ways, a microcosm for what's happening in the whole world.

When Columbus first landed on Hispaniola in 1492, virtually the entire island was covered by lush forest. The Taino "Indians" who lived there had an apparently idyllic life prior to Columbus, from the reports left to us by literate members of Columbus's crew such as Miguel Cuneo.

When Columbus and his crew arrived on their second visit to Hispaniola, however, they took captive about two thousand local villagers who had come out to greet them. Cuneo wrote: "When our caravels… where to leave for Spain, we gathered…one thousand six hundred male and female persons of those Indians, and these we embarked in our caravels on February 17, 1495…For those who remained, we let it be known (to the Spaniards who manned the island's fort) in the vicinity that anyone who wanted to take some of them could do so, to the amount desired, which was done."

Cuneo further notes that he himself took a beautiful teenage Carib girl as his personal slave, a gift from Columbus himself, but that when he attempted to have sex with her, she "resisted with all her strength." So, in his own words, he "thrashed her mercilessly and raped her."

While Columbus once referred to the Taino Indians as cannibals, a story made up by Columbus - which is to this day still taught in some US schools - to help justify his slaughter and enslavement of these people. He wrote to the Spanish monarchs in 1493: "It is possible, with the name of the Holy Trinity, to sell all the slaves which it is possible to sell…Here there are so many of these slaves, and also brazilwood, that although they are living things they are as good as gold…"

Columbus and his men also used the Taino as sex slaves: it was a common reward for Columbus' men for him to present them with local women to rape. As he began exporting Taino as slaves to other parts of the world, the sex-slave trade became an important part of the business, as Columbus wrote to a friend in 1500: "A hundred castellanoes (a Spanish coin) are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten (years old) are now in demand."

However, the Taino turned out not to be particularly good workers in the plantations that the Spaniards and later the French established on Hispaniola: they resented their lands and children being taken, and attempted to fight back against the invaders. Since the Taino where obviously standing in the way of Spain's progress, Columbus sought to impose discipline on them. For even a minor offense, an Indian's nose or ear was cut off, se he could go back to his village to impress the people with the brutality the Spanish were capable of. Columbus attacked them with dogs, skewered them with pikes, and shot them.

Eventually, life for the Taino became so unbearable that, as Pedro de Cordoba wrote to King Ferdinand in a 1517 letter, "As a result of the sufferings and hard labor they endured, the Indians choose and have chosen suicide. Occasionally a hundred have committed mass suicide. The women, exhausted by labor, have shunned conception and childbirth… Many, when pregnant, have taken something to abort and have aborted. Others after delivery have killed their children with their own hands, so as not to leave them in such oppressive slavery."

Eventually, Columbus and later his brother Bartholomew Columbus who he left in charge of the island, simply resorted to wiping out the Taino altogether. Prior to Columbus' arrival, some scholars place the population of Haiti/Hispaniola (now at 16 million) at around 1.5 to 3 million people. By 1496, it was down to 1.1 million, according to a census done by Bartholomew Columbus. By 1516, the indigenous population was 12,000, and according to Las Casas (who were there) by 1542 fewer than 200 natives were alive. By 1555, every single one was dead.

This wasn't just the story of Hispaniola; the same has been done to indigenous peoples worldwide. Slavery, apartheid, and the entire concept of conservative Darwinian Economics, have been used to justify continued suffering by masses of human beings.

Dr. Jack Forbes, Professor of Native American Studies at the University of California at Davis and author of the brilliant book "Columbus and Other Cannibals," uses the Native American word wétiko (pronounced WET-ee-ko) to describe the collection of beliefs that would produce behavior like that of Columbus. Wétiko literally means "cannibal," and Forbes uses it quite intentionally to describe these standards of culture: we "eat" (consume) other humans by destroying them, destroying their lands, taking their natural resources, and consuming their life-force by enslaving them either physically or economically. The story of Columbus and the Taino is just one example.

We live in a culture that includes the principle that if somebody else has something we need, and they won't give it to us, and we have the means to kill them to get it, it's not unreasonable to go get it, using whatever force we need to.

In the United States, the first "Indian war" in New England was the "Pequot War of 1636," in which colonists surrounded the largest of the Pequot villages, set it afire as the sun began to rise, and then performed their duty: they shot everybody-men, women, children, and the elderly-who tried to escape. As Puritan colonist William Bradford described the scene: "It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire and the streams of blood quenching the same, and horrible was the stink and scent thereof; but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they [the colonists] gave praise therof to God, who had wrought so wonderfully..."

The Narragansetts, up to that point "friends" of the colonists, were so shocked by this example of European-style warfare that they refused further alliances with the whites. Captain John Underhill ridiculed the Narragansetts for their unwillingness to engage in genocide, saying Narragansett wars with other tribes were "more for pastime, than to conquer and subdue enemies."

In that, Underhill was correct: the Narragansett form of war, like that of most indigenous Older Culture peoples, and almost all Native American tribes, does not have extermination of the opponent as a goal. After all, neighbors are necessary to trade with, to maintain a strong gene pool through intermarriage, and to insure cultural diversity. Most tribes wouldn't even want the lands of others, because they would have concerns about violating or entering the sacred or spirit-filled areas of the other tribes. Even the killing of "enemies" is not most often the goal of tribal "wars": It's most often to fight to some pre-determined measure of "victory" such as seizing a staff, crossing a particular line, or the first wounding or surrender of the opponent.

This wétiko type of theft and warfare is practiced daily by farmers and ranchers worldwide against wolves, coyotes, insects, animals and trees of the rainforest; and against indigenous tribes living in the jungles and rainforests. It is our way of life. It comes out of our foundational cultural notions. So it should not surprise us that with the doubling of the world's population over the past 37 years has come an explosion of violence and brutality, and as the United States runs low on oil, we are now fighting wars in oil-rich parts of the world.

That is, after all, our history, which we celebrate on Columbus Day. It need not be our future.

Excerpted and slightly edited from "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: The Fate of the World and What We Can Do Before It's Too Late" by Thom Hartmann. www.thomhartmann.com

Dissonance
03-18-2006, 05:30 PM
Columbus was really Black. Do the knowledge

Maboya
03-18-2006, 05:44 PM
He was still a Devil. The nerve on this cat saying some shit like that with the evil acts he done committed mentioned above. His black ass is frying in hell with his whole black devil family and his advocates, black and white.

Maboya
03-18-2006, 05:46 PM
You know who else was Black? Ferdinad and Isabella. Do the Knowledge on how today there's still the same Black Devils amongst us. Let's bring it ALL OUT SUN.

Visionz
03-18-2006, 10:41 PM
could someone please on the Columbus being black thing? I always thought he was italian.

WARPATH
03-19-2006, 01:14 AM
Chistopher Columbus's heritage is unknown, it is believed he is of Italian or Portguese decent.

History has always been in control of the ones that hold the most power.

Considering that the Portuguese King and Queen her bent on spreadning christianity, and the destruction of Islam- I highly doubt they would have funded an African explorer.

Do the knowledge.

KBOS
03-19-2006, 01:31 AM
Yo I posted shit awhile back about what a cunt columbus was. I would spit on his grave rather then celebrate him.

WARPATH
03-19-2006, 01:44 AM
No doubt-

Props to Maboya for posting this- it was on point-

In that, Underhill was correct: the Narragansett form of war, like that of most indigenous Older Culture peoples, and almost all Native American tribes, does not have extermination of the opponent as a goal. After all, neighbors are necessary to trade with, to maintain a strong gene pool through intermarriage, and to insure cultural diversity. Most tribes wouldn't even want the lands of others, because they would have concerns about violating or entering the sacred or spirit-filled areas of the other tribes. Even the killing of "enemies" is not most often the goal of tribal "wars": It's most often to fight to some pre-determined measure of "victory" such as seizing a staff, crossing a particular line, or the first wounding or surrender of the opponent.

Lakota warfare consisted of "Counting Coup." The objective was to run up on your enemy and touch them with a Coup stick to signify that " I killed you with out taking your live" War was about honor and shame- not death.

Sicka than aidZ
03-19-2006, 01:45 AM
"columbus killed more indians than hitler killed jews.../
but on his birthday u get sales on shoe's.../"- goats(old ass hiphop group)

iniquity
03-19-2006, 03:01 AM
They want you to think that the Tainos are extinct but they are not. The legacy of the Taino Indians are rooted deep in my people, it's what makes us Boricua even if we are a mix of Taino, African & Spanish.

But to tell you the truth I don't consider myself an African or a Spaniard. I consider myself a Taino Indian from the island of Boriken.

*Great posy BTW Maboya(Ghost) ...

Maboya
03-20-2006, 12:27 PM
They want you to think that the Tainos are extinct but they are not. The legacy of the Taino Indians are rooted deep in my people, it's what makes us Boricua even if we are a mix of Taino, African & Spanish.

But to tell you the truth I don't consider myself an African or a Spaniard. I consider myself a Taino Indian from the island of Boriken.

*Great posy BTW Maboya(Ghost) ...


Peace INIQ, no doubt we're still here. Notice how people rather discuss everything but the reality of how the European came to dominate this land? Or they jump that part and talk about the Trans Atlantic slave trade. As if we were/are nothing? We were the first to greet them, and the first to show love, first to be backstabbed, first to be robbed, first to be slaves, first to be put on slave ships, the first to fight the devil off, and we are the first ones forgotten. They want to mask shit like everything is black and white, when we the first people here and we will be the last, Indigenous Peoples are waking up.

Peace to the Taino, Arawak, and Carib People.

LHX
03-20-2006, 12:43 PM
i wonder what wouldve happened if the indians never discovered columbus

Maboya
03-20-2006, 12:55 PM
Ask the Moors, they were supposedly helping in navigating the ships.

LHX
03-20-2006, 01:01 PM
are there any moors around here?

WARPATH
03-20-2006, 01:14 PM
SOURCE- http://www.theramp.net/kohr4/interestingfacts.html


Around the year 60 B.C., two "Indian" men were shipwrecked on the shores of Holland. These two Indian men, whose names have been lost to history, discovered Europe approximately 1552 years before Columbus "discovered" the Americas. 1). (http://www.theramp.net/kohr4/sources.html)

Before a lost, confused, and shipwrecked, Christopher Columbus was discovered by the Taino People in 1492, there were between fifteen million and twenty million Native Americans living on the land that is today called the United States and Canada. Including Central and South America the Native populace of the Western hemisphere in 1492 was in excess of 100 million people. In comparison, Europe had a population of approx. 70 million in 1492. 22 (http://www.theramp.net/kohr4/sources.html)). 1) (http://www.theramp.net/kohr4/sources.html)

.When Columbus landed on Haiti in 1492 he was chagrined to discover the Taino People in possession of spear points made of an alloy of gold, silver and copper. The Taino People called this alloy "guanine," and told Columbus that they had obtained the spear points from black traders that sailed in from the east and south. The alloy used to make these spear points was identical to the alloy preferred by West Africans at the time, who also called it "guanine." 1). (http://www.theramp.net/kohr4/sources.html)

Over a period of 400 years, it has been estimated that more than 50 million Native Americans perished in the lower 48 states of the US, due primarily to European disease and warfare. By the early 1900's fewer than 250,000 Native Americans remained alive.

The first people enslaved by the Europeans in the Americas were the Taino People, enslaved by the Spanish under the command of Christopher Columbus. The Spanish enslaved millions of Native People across the West Indies, South America, Central America, and in the American Southwest and California. Native People were enslaved by nearly every European power that laid claim to the "New World." Native Americans accounted for over 25% of the slaves in the United States as late as the middle of the 18th century. Many Native People were lawfully enslaved in the United States until the end of the civil war

ilzPotent
03-20-2006, 01:17 PM
I've said it before, I don't celebrate his birthday... fuck a columbus day sale!

Aqua Luna
03-20-2006, 01:18 PM
A lil off topic...

It's not usefull anymore for us to say im mexican or indian or whatever...

We need to recognize that in this society and in this time, you are either White or Black.

An even better way to describe us would be either Original or Unoriginal.

The people who are rich and running this world like this don't care what "race" you claim...they treat all Original people with the same cruelty.

LHX
03-20-2006, 01:21 PM
nobody will ever claim to be unoriginal

a simple understanding of original and unoriginal suggests that a person is original

Aqua Luna
03-20-2006, 01:26 PM
true ^

I just think people should stop thinking they so different.

That's what the oppresor wants us to think.

LHX
03-20-2006, 01:29 PM
the oppressor doesnt care what we think

as long as we keep buying


wants us to be the same
and hate ourselves and each other at the same time

Aqua Luna
03-20-2006, 01:36 PM
word!....we should hate money...I hate money

LHX
03-20-2006, 01:38 PM
i hate money

WU-KILLAH
03-20-2006, 01:40 PM
We need to recognize that in this society and in this time, you are either White or Black.

No today, you are either american or something else.

LHX
03-20-2006, 01:41 PM
i hate the concept of money, but i love having that shit.

its creepy the way its all the same size



that shit is black magic of the worst form

Aqua Luna
03-20-2006, 01:48 PM
No today, you are either american or something else.

hmmm....what do you mean?

Soul Controller
03-20-2006, 02:07 PM
i dont hate anything.. i feel sorry for people..

we are all original..
but to what %


we need to get rid of the boundaries..


his name wassnt even christopher columbus

colom - is a symbol of the dove (french word) (queen semirimis shit)

i did mad knowledge on this a year or 2 back
he didnt even find america!!!! he found an island off america
some next dude found tha states..


dont make me read old books again :(

LHX
03-20-2006, 02:11 PM
'christopher columbus' was actually the aka of a norwegian nautical expedition team that been sent out to investigate reports of a sea monster that had been devouring spanish trade ships

110% trooooth