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whitey
07-22-2005, 08:58 PM
C Ronaldo is a 1 trick pony, hes nothing in comparison to Okocha or Ronaldinho in the skill department.

This is one of the nicest tricks ive seen in a while... u gotta look at it a few times to realise what Ronaldinho actually does, check it...

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6151/ronaldinho95lx3uk.gif


Im just uploading a Zola video, its a skill he does again Liverpool a few seasons back, truly amazing.
great shit.


and any zola footage would be nice. big ups.

FrenchShin
07-23-2005, 04:46 AM
C Ronaldo is a 1 trick pony, hes nothing in comparison to Okocha or Ronaldinho in the skill department.

This is one of the nicest tricks ive seen in a while... u gotta look at it a few times to realise what Ronaldinho actually does, check it...

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6151/ronaldinho95lx3uk.gif


Im just uploading a Zola video, its a skill he does again Liverpool a few seasons back, truly amazing.
haha, have to test that shit next time... no matter if i look ridiculous :)

okocha is damn good. it's the shame he left PSG to go to Bolton. he deserved better.

Krimewave
07-23-2005, 05:40 AM
c ronaldo makes people look a fool constantly.

hes got pace that few players can match. i was just watching a premier leauge classic on fsc (american channel) it was MAN U v. Arsenal from 04. Ashley cole was just getting tourched by C Ron.
look at any of the Utd vs arsenal games since Ronaldo came to the UK and you'll notice the same thing.
I doubt if any of the full backs in the EPL think he's over rated.
they're just glad whenever his name's not on the teamsheet.

Funk_Dock
07-23-2005, 07:50 AM
c ronaldo is horribly over rated

sure he has a decent game now and then but hes inconsistant at crossing and passing

hes got good flair but doing step overs and diving doesnt put him in ronaldinhos/zolas/okochas league
I agree, as a united supporter i think hes still learnin but in time hopefully he'll one day be in their league

Longbongcilvaringz
07-23-2005, 09:00 AM
list of every single transfer made this transfer period so far, don't know if anyone actually wants it but i don't care. peace

*can't believe milan signed vieri, bit past his prime

JULY 2005 TRANSFERS
22nd - Texeira Juarez
Bologna to Udinese Undisclosed
22nd - Fernando Baiano
Malaga to Celta Vigo Free
22nd - Sander Westerveld
Free to Portsmouth Free
22nd - Richard Morales
Osasuna to Malaga €1.4 million
22nd - Joseba Arriaga
Athletic Bilbao to Eibar Loan
22nd - Akram Roumani
Racing Genk to RBC Roosendaal Loan
21st - Fabio Celestini
Free to Getafe Free
21st - Hicham Aboucherouane
Raja Casablanca to Lille Loan
21st - Yannick Quesnel
Benfica to Marseille Loan
21st - Igli Tare
Bologna to Lazio Undisclosed
21st - Azar Karadas
Benfica to Portsmouth Loan
21st - Mamam Cherif Toure
Free to Metz Free
20th - Stephen Appiah
Juventus to Fenerbahce €8 million
20th - Peter Crouch
Southampton to Liverpool £7million
20th - Andy Cole
Fulham to Manchester City Free
20th - Marcelo Pletsch
Free to Kaiserslautern Free
20th - Diego Placente
Bayer Leverkusen to Celta Vigo Free
19th - Ben Foster
Stoke City to Manchester United £1million
19th - Rudolph Skacel
Marseille to Hearts Loan
19th - Alberto Gilardino
Parma to AC Milan Undisclosed
18th - Emre Belozoglu
Internazionale to Newcastle £3.8million
18th - Tim Krul
ADO Den Haag to Newcastle United Undisclosed
18th - Andreas Jakobsson
Southampton to Helsingborg Undisclosed
18th - Shaun Wright-Phillips
Manchester City to Chelsea £21million
17th - John Aloisi
Osasuna to Alaves Free
17th - Veljko Paunovic
Hanover 96 to Getafe Free
17th - Stephane Dalmat
Internazionale to Racing Santander Undisclosed
17th - Niclas Jensen
Borussia Dortmund to Fulham Undisclosed
16th - Luizao
Sao Paulo to Nagoya Grampus Eight Undisclosed
16th - Jon Dahl Tomasson
AC Milan to VfB Stuttgart $A11 million
16th - Yossi Benayoun
Racing Santander to West Ham £2.5million
16th - Leo
Santos to Benfica Undisclosed
16th - Flavio Conceicao
Galatasaray to Panathinaikos €500,000
15th - Patrick Vieira
Arsenal to Juventus £13.75million
15th - Mikel Arteta
Real Sociedad to Everton £2million
15th - Alexei Smertin
Chelsea to Charlton Loan
15th - Luca Toni
Palermo to Fiorentina Undisclosed
15th - David Pizarro
Udinese to Internazionale Undisclosed
15th - Igor Biscan
Liverpool to Panathinaikos Free
15th - Lassana Diarra
Le Havre to Chelsea Undisclosed
15th - Tobias Rau
Bayern Munich to Arminia Bielefeld Free
15th - Enzo Maresca
Juventus to Sevilla Undisclosed
15th - Chris Kirkland
Liverpool to West Brom Loan
15th - Mattias Jonson
Norwich City to Djurgarden £700,000
14th - Steve Lovell
Dundee to Aberdeen £250,000
14th - Ian Walker
Free to Bolton Free
14th - Gonzalo Sorondo
Internazionale to Charlton Loan
14th - Mohamed Sissoko
Valencia to Liverpool £5.6million
14th - Ahn Jung-hwan
Free to Metz Free
14th - Marek Saganowski
Legia Warsaw to Guimaraes €600,000
14th - John Owoeri
Bendel Insurance to Feyenoord Undisclosed
14th - David Pizarro
Udinese to Internazionale €10m + swap
14th - Goran Pandev
Internazionale to Udinese Swap
14th - Goran Pandev
Udinese to Lazio Loan
14th - Salva Ballesta
Valencia to Malaga Free
14th - John Owoeri
Free to Feyenoord Free
13th - Thimothee Atouba
Tottenham to Hamburg Undisclosed
13th - Hugo Ibarra
Free to Boca Juniors Free
13th - Paulo Wanchope
Malaga to Al-Gharrafa Nominal fee
13th - Stephane Dalmat
Internazionale to Racing Santander Free
13th - Jozsef Sebok
Zalaegerszegi to AEL Limassol Undisclosed
13th - Giuseppe Pancaro
Free to Fiorentina Free
13th - Bruno Cirillo
Siena to AEK Undisclosed
13th - Artur Boruc
Legia Warsaw to Celtic Loan
13th - Borja Fernandez
Real Madrid to Real Mallorca Loan
13th - Michalis Konstantinou
Free to Olympiakos Free
12th - Alexander Hleb
Stuttgart to Arsenal £9.94millioon
12th - Marlon King
Nottingham Forest to Watford Loan
12th - Gregory Vignal
Free to Portsmouth Free
12th - Ryan Taylor
Tranmere to Wigan £750,000
12th - Bernardo Romeo
Hamburg to Osasuna Free
12th - Hugo Ibarra
Espanyol to Free Released
12th - Stefano Fiore
Valencia to Fiorentina Loan
12th - Nikolaos Skarmoutsos
PAOK to Atromitos Athinon Free
12th - Alexios Gavrilopoulos
Ionikos to Larissa Undisclosed
12th - Stephen Ayodele Makinwa
Atalanta to Palermo €7.5million
12th - Remco van der Schaaf
PSV to Vitesse Undisclosed
12th - Sabri Lamouchi
Internazionale to Marseille Loan
12th - Andres Mendoza
Metalurh Donetsk to Marseille Loan
11th - Johan Vonlanthen
PSV to NAC Breda Loan
11th - Emerson
Urawa Reds to Al Sadd Undisclosed
11th - Zbigniew Malkowski
Feyenoord to Hibernian Free
11th - Camel Meriem
Bordeaux to Monaco Undisclosed
11th - Chris Powell
West Ham to Charlton Free
11th - Jonathan Spector
Manchester United to Charlton Loan
11th - Hans van de Haar
FC Utrecht to RKC Waalwijk Free
11th - Hugo Leal
Porto to Braga Undisclosed
11th - Daniel Kenedy
Academica to APOEL Undisclosed
10th - Dany N'Guessan
Auxerre to Rangers Undisclosed
10th - Fabian Estoyanoff
Valencia to Cadiz Loan
10th - Francesco Ruopolo
Parma to Lokomotiv Moscow Undisclosed
9th - Bart Goor
Feyenoord to Anderlecht Undisclosed
9th - Stylianos Iliadis
Apollon to PAOK €300,000
9th - Sergio Garcia
Barcelona to Real Zaragoza Undisclosed
9th - Sasa Ilic
Partizan Belgrade to Galatasaray Undisclosed
8th - Darren Ambrose
Newcastle to Charlton Undisclosed
8th - Pascal Chimbonda
Bastia to Wigan Undisclosed
8th - Magno Vieira
Wigan to Free Released
8th - Vasco Fernandes
Olhanense to Bordeaux Loan
8th - Pablo Counago
Ipswich to Malaga Free
8th - Julio Cesar Soares Espindola
Chievo to Internazionale Undisclosed
8th - Marcelo Salas
Juventus to Free Released
8th - Sanchez Emilson Cribari
Udinese to Lazio Undisclosed
8th - Manuel Belleri
Udinese to Lazio Undisclosed
8th - Fabian Estoyanoff
Fenix to Valencia Undisclosed
8th - Fatih Sonkaya
Besiktas to Porto €1.5million
8th - Ewerthon
Borussia Dortmund to Real Zaragoza Undisclosed
8th - Sezer Ozturk
Bayer Leverkusen to Germinal Beerschot Undisclosed
7th - Chris Kirkland
Liverpool to West Brom Loan
7th - Craig Bellamy
Newcastle to Blackburn Undisclosed
7th - Jon McKain
National Bucharest to Politehnica Timisoara Undisclosed
7th - Javier Mascherano
River Plate to Corinthians Undisclosed
7th - John Viafara
Once Caldas to Portsmouth £1.6million
7th - Danny Dichio
Millwall to Preston North End £160,000
7th - Christian Negouai
Manchester City to Standard Liege Undisclosed
7th - Graham Stack
Arsenal to Reading Loan
7th - Maciej Zurawski
Wisla Krakow to Celtic £2million
7th - Jari Litmanen
Hansa Rostock to Malmo Free
7th - Hernan Crespo
AC Milan to Chelsea Loan return
7th - Jefferson Oliviera de Galvao
Cruzeiro to Trabzonspor Undisclosed
7th - Albert Riera
Bordeaux to Espanyol €3million
7th - Stefano Sorrentino
Torino to AEK Free
7th - Sebastian Svard
Arsenal to Vitoria Guimaraes Undisclosed
7th - Emerson Moises Costa
Vasco da Gama to Xanthi Undisclosed
7th - Leonardo Santos Concalves
Avai to Xanthi Undisclosed
7th - Danijel Cesarek
Akratitos to Egaleo Free
7th - Edilson
Free to Sao Caetano Free
6th - Vikash Dhorasoo
AC Milan to PSG Undisclosed
6th - Nils-Eric Johansson
Free to Leicester Free
6th - Marc Edworthy
Free to Derby Free
6th - Eddie Johnson
Manchester United to Crewe Loan
6th - Andrew Taylor
Middlesbrough to Bradford Loan
6th - Peter Madsen
VfL Bochum to FC Koln Undisclosed
6th - Jorge Larrena
Atletico Madrid to Celta Vigo Loan
6th - Giovanni Pasquale
Internazionale to Parma Loan
6th - Bill Tchato
Kaiserslautern to Nice Free
6th - Ramon Ros
Barcelona to Lleida Loan
6th - Mark Burchill
Hearts to Dunfermline Free
6th - John Alvbage
IFK Goteborg to Viborg €3million
6th - Juan 'Juanma' Delgado
Racing Santander to Deportivo La Coruna Free
5th - Santiago Solari
Real Madrid to Internazionale Nominal fee
5th - Christian Vieri
Free to AC Milan Free
5th - Mihalis Kapsis
Bordeaux to Olympiakos Undisclosed
5th - Stephane Chapuisat
Free to Lausanne-Sport Free
5th - Antonio Prats
Real Betis to Real Mallorca Free
5th - Steve Watson
Free to West Brom Free
5th - Kennedy Bakircioglu
Iraklis to FC Twente Free
5th - Laurent Courtois
Istres to Levante Free
5th - Luis Fabiano
FC Porto to Sevilla Undisclosed
5th - Taribo West
Al-Arabi to Plymouth Free
5th - Lawrence Aidoo
Nurnberg to Energie Cottbus Free
5th - Martin Woods
Leeds to Sunderland Free
5th - Henry Antchouet
Belenenses to Alaves Free
5th - Jose-Karl Pierre-Fanfan
PSG to Rangers Undisclosed
5th - Paul Konchesky
Charlton to West Ham £2million
5th - Danny Gabbidon
Cardiff to West Ham Undisclosed
5th - James Collins
Cardiff to West Ham Undisclosed
5th - Luis Fabiano
Porto to Sevilla Undisclosed
5th - Danijel Pranjic
Dinamo Zagreb to Heerenveen Undisclosed
5th - Alessandro Beccia
Bassano to Heerenveen Undisclosed
5th - Antchouet Arnaud
Belenenses to Alaves Free
5th - Park Ji-Sung
PSV to Manchester United Undisclosed
5th - Thomas Helveg
Norwich to Borussia Monchengladbach £135,000
5th - Magrao
Palmeiras to Yokohama F-Marinos Undisclosed
4th - Tore Andre Flo
Siena to Valerenga Free
4th - Christian Abbiati
AC Milan to Genoa Loan
4th - Dimitrios Eleftheropoulos
Messina to AC Milan Free
4th - Mark Gonzalez
Albacete to Liverpool Loan
4th - Antonio Barragan
Sevilla to Liverpool Free
4th - Jose Reina
Villarreal to Liverpool Undisclosed
4th - Xisco Munoz
Valencia to Real Betis Undisclosed
4th - Ahmed Madouni
Borussia Dortmund to Bayer Leverkusen Undisclosed
4th - Andrea Caracciolo
Brescia to Palermo Undisclosed
4th - Davide Possanzini
Palermo to Brescia Part exchange
4th - Darren Carter
Birmingham to West Brom £1.5million
3rd - Eddy Bosnar
Everton to Dinamo Zagreb Free
3rd - Boudewijn Zenden
Middlesbrough to Liverpool Free
2nd - Nicola Ventola
Free to Atalanta Free
2nd - David Cifuentes
Eibar to Real Sociedad $A716,000
2nd - Anderson
Corinthians to Benfica Part exchange
2nd - Mamadou Niang
Strasbourg to Marseille €7million
1st - Edu
Arsenal to Valencia Free
1st - Asier Del Horno
Athletic Bilbao to Chelsea £8million
1st - Yakubu Ayegbini
Portsmouth to Middlesbrough £7.5million
1st - Tom Huddlestone
Derby to Tottenham £1million
1st - Park Ji-Sung
PSV Eindhoven to Manchester United Undisclosed
1st - Aaron Lennon
Leeds to Tottenham Undisclosed
1st - Wayne Routledge
Crystal Palace to Tottenham Undisclosed
1st - Edwin van der Sar
Fulham to Manchester United Undisclosed
1st - Patrik Berger
Portsmouth to Aston Villa Free
1st - Thomas Hitzlsperger
Aston Villa to Stuttgart Free
1st - Jason Jarrett
Wigan to Norwich Free
1st - Eddie Lewis
Preston North End to Leeds Free
1st - Paul Mitchell
Wigan to Milton Keynes Dons Free
1st - Daniel Nardiello
Manchester United to Barnsley Free
1st - Rohan Ricketts
Tottenham to Wolverhampton Free
1st - Simon Royce
Charlton to QPR Free
1st - Ricky Shakes
Bolton to Swindon Free
1st - Paul Stalteri
Werder Bremen to Tottenham Free
1st - Marcus Stewart
Sunderland to Bristol City Free
1st - Teemu Tainio
Auxerre to Tottenham Free
1st - Jeff Whitley
Sunderland to Cardiff Free
1st - Richard Duffy
Portsmouth to Coventry Loan
1st - Georgos Georgiadis
Olympiakos to Iraklis Free
1st - Jelle van Damme
Southampton to Werder Bremen Loan
1st - Jeremie Aliadiere
Arsenal to Celtic Loan
1st - Juan Varela
Murcia to Atletico Madrid Free
1st - Samuele Dalla Bona
AC Milan to Sampdoria Loan
1st - Andrea Caracciolo
Brescia to Palermo Undisclosed
1st - Pablo Garcia
Osasuna to Real Madrid Undisclosed
1st - Carlos Diogo
River Plate to Real Madrid Undisclosed
1st - Fernando Navarro
Barcelona to Mallorca Loan
1st - Nebosja Gudelj
NAC Breda to Sparta Rotterdam Free
1st - Jamie Smith
ADO Den Haag to Aberdeen Free
1st - Romik Khachatryan
OFI to Terek Grozny Undisclosed
1st - Mike Pollitt
Rotherham to Wigan Athletic Undisclosed
1st - Jeremie Aliadiere
Arsenal to Celtic Loan
1st - Alessandro Pistone
Everton to Free Released
1st - Alan Stubbs
Everton to Free Released
1st - Steve Watson
Everton to Free Released
1st - Mark Wilson
Middlesbrough to Dallas Burn Free
1st - Christian Vieri
Internazionale to Free Released
1st - Fernando Navarro
Barcelona to Real Mallorca Loan
1st - Raffaele Palladino
Juventus to Livorno Loan
1st - Steve Olfers
Feyenoord to Sparta Rotterdam Free
1st - Nebojsa Gudelj
AC Milan to Sparta Rotterdam Free
1st - Rob van Dijk
De Graafschap to RKC Waalwijk Free
1st - Maarten Martens
Anderlecht to RKC Waalwijk Free
1st - Silvio Maric
Panathinaikos to Dinamo Zagreb Undisclosed
1st - David Grondin
Stade Brestois to Mouscron Free
1st - Jean Beausejour
Servette to Gremio Free
1st - Jean Beausejour
Servette to Gremio Undisclosed
1st - Maxi Rodriguez
Espanyol to Atletico Madrid Undisclosed
1st - Emanuel Pogatetz
Bayer Leverkusen to Middlesbrough £1.8million
1st - Traianos Dellas
Roma to Free Out of contract
1st - Ahn Jung-hwan
Yokohama F-Marinos to Free Out of contract
1st - Kelly Youga
Lyon to Charlton Free

Ouroborous
07-23-2005, 09:41 AM
C Ronaldo is a 1 trick pony, hes nothing in comparison to Okocha or Ronaldinho in the skill department.

c ronaldo is horribly over rated/sure he has a decent game now and then but hes inconsistant at crossing and passing/hes got good flair but doing step overs and diving doesnt put him in ronaldinhos/zolas/okochas league

What a load of bullshit. Single-handedly (aged 18/19) re-invigorated Portugal's European Championships - when premier players in the side --> Figo, Rui Costa, Pauleta, Paolo Ferreira etc were all terribly off form. Best player in consecutive FA Cup Finals...............

How you can compare a winger to two 'in the hole strikers' & an attacking centre midfielder? its ridiculous - as if they have the same opportunities and positions to try tricks...

People always use 'Ronaldo diving' -which isn't diving in my book if there is contact - I call it 'going down too easily'........ as a reason to play down the impact he has.

Chelsea, Arsenal fans whatever - just cos he plays for Man Utd he's 'over-hyped' when you would all cream your pants if he joined your team. If the stepovers didnt work fair play but they do, so stop hating and be realistic, he is one of THE BEST players in THE WORLD - stepovers, falling over easily, diving whatever, you cant deny the boy is a an amzing football player. he makes Ashley Cole (the best leftback in the world so I keep hearing) look like a sunday league player, the amount of kicks he gets more than tallys the dives, falling over etc.

I happen to think Ronaldo is very consistent - shame his team-mates weren't as effective as him last year and he has more than 'a decent game now & then' - carlton cole has 'a decent game now & then'.........

Its all love tho............ Peace out.

ironmantis
07-23-2005, 10:55 AM
C Ronaldo is a 1 trick pony, hes nothing in comparison to Okocha or Ronaldinho in the skill department.

This is one of the nicest tricks ive seen in a while... u gotta look at it a few times to realise what Ronaldinho actually does, check it...

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6151/ronaldinho95lx3uk.gif


Im just uploading a Zola video, its a skill he does again Liverpool a few seasons back, truly amazing.

^^^ I've done this trick in a game before I saw him do this live, but obviously mine wasn't in a big game like this one.

I'm always trying different tricks, mostly learnt from people like Okocha and Zlatan Ibrahimivic who has done one of the best tricks I ever saw.

There is a trick I can't do which Juninho done for Middlesborough against Everton ages ago, I tried it numerous times but just can't get it right (too hard to emplain what how it went).

btw, can't wait for you to upload that Zola skill, its always good to see Zola play.

peace

36chambers
07-23-2005, 07:51 PM
Hey man its all good, I just think C Ronaldo isnt on the same level as Ronaldinho or Okocha in the trick department AT THE MOMENT. Those 2 players have a more of a variety of tricks, seeing Okocha destroy Arsenal a few seasons back at the Reebok fuckin amazed me. And Ronaldinho made a fool of John Terry and Gallas which isnt easy... so glad Man U didnt sign him now, they would have probably won the league that year easily.

For me, although i dont see much of Man U, i try to watch them whenever they are on the TV... Ronaldo seems to go missing sometimes in games. I feel as tho he dives too much too, hopefully Ferguson will have a word with him in Portugese. Really glad he cut those 2 fuckin dangly bits of hair he had off :D but he'll get better with age.

I have loads of trick GIFs to load up too, from Zidane, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Ronaldo, C Ronaldo n loads more...

36chambers
07-23-2005, 07:51 PM
OK, heres the Zola skill i just uploaded. Call it what u want, the man is a true legend...


http://rapidshare.de/files/3301522/zolaskill.avi.html


Are u watching Carragher?

Ronin
07-24-2005, 06:47 AM
thanks, zolas goal against norwhich was it where he sorta reverse flicked it in was the best

ironmantis
07-24-2005, 06:50 AM
it didn't work for me, but I guess i'll see it sometime.

thx anyway

peace

Krimewave
07-24-2005, 08:37 AM
Crouch set to make his Liverpool debut tonight.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/krimewave/crouch.jpg

36chambers
07-24-2005, 08:53 AM
thanks, zolas goal against norwhich was it where he sorta reverse flicked it in was the best
I got that somewhere too, ill try n upload that.

36chambers
07-24-2005, 08:54 AM
Check ur PM's Iron

Ouroborous
07-24-2005, 09:51 AM
I feel as tho he dives too much too, hopefully Ferguson will have a word with him in Portugese. Really glad he cut those 2 fuckin dangly bits of hair he had off :D but he'll get better with age
Haha, yeah not quite sure what that dangly hair shit was about..........looked like spaghetti or some shit!
Like I said he has been our best (and one of the most consistent) players of the last 2 years........he always wants the ball and will keep trying to the end, so props for that.
As for diving he does go down too easily for sure, but I don't think he dives much iof at all (i count diving as Robben-esque in the euro's against czech republic, where there is NO CONTACT). Most of the times Ronaldo goes down their is contact, foul or no foul, and it's still cheating as he could probably stay on his feet, but sometimes he gets a rough deal with comments from the media, there's certainly worse.........pires, ashley cole, vieira, scholes, neville etc all 'dived' few times last year.

He WILL be world player of the year one day, i'm sure of that.

Ouroborous
07-24-2005, 09:52 AM
7 CANTONA aka God on the football pitch.

ironmantis
07-24-2005, 09:55 AM
Crouch set to make his Liverpool debut tonight.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/krimewave/crouch.jpg
lmao, classic

peace

36chambers
07-24-2005, 12:28 PM
there's certainly worse.........pires, ashley cole, vieira, scholes, neville etc all 'dived' few times last year.Vieira never dives...





























http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/38/10outof10dive3bf8pu2ug0yf.gif


And please dont get me started on Pires, hes the scum of the earth.

nrw killa bee
07-25-2005, 08:44 AM
Arseanal.

36chambers
07-25-2005, 12:19 PM
Chelsea 1-0 Milan (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=294074&CPID=34&CLID=8&lid=&title=Blues+see+off+Milan&channel=football_home)

Ouroborous
07-25-2005, 02:55 PM
Vieira never dives....
haha. he did a better one than that against man u, tho that was classic in its own right. yeah pires is a prick.

Crespo score?

36chambers
07-25-2005, 06:13 PM
Nah, Robben. Hes scored a few in pre season, if he stays away from injury he'll get young player of the year i think.

We have to play Milan again, after we play DC United. Hopefully we'll be scouting Adu while we play them.

36chambers
07-25-2005, 07:17 PM
Vassell looks like hes going 2 Man City.

Not a bad signing, think he needed a change. Pearce will get him playing well again... or he'll seriously hurt him :D

u-turn
07-25-2005, 07:29 PM
so how is Beckam doing?

nrw killa bee
07-25-2005, 08:21 PM
Nah, Robben. Hes scored a few in pre season, if he stays away from injury he'll get young player of the year i think.

We have to play Milan again, after we play DC United. Hopefully we'll be scouting Adu while we play them.
WE?
I know you live in London,but I dont see 36Chambers anywhere when I play Championship Manager :satisfy:

Ronin
07-26-2005, 05:11 AM
lol 36 thats a friendly

milan still are a better side

gillardinho and sheva = more goals that all your strikers put together next season :)

36chambers
07-26-2005, 08:12 AM
haha i was waiting 4 u 2 reply. We won the league without a top striker... Milan had 2 or so and didn't, stick that up ur pipe :thumbup:

And Milan still wanted 2 go out and beat Chelsea, but they didn't. Cant see them saying... ah its only a friendly lads, just go and play whatever... hmmm :P a result is a result... last time Chelsea played Milan in the Champs league we won 3-1 and drew 1-1... i can only go by that +)

36chambers
07-26-2005, 08:14 AM
WE?
I know you live in London,but I dont see 36Chambers anywhere when I play Championship Manager :satisfy:Thats cos my name isnt actually "36chambers" |(

FrenchShin
07-26-2005, 08:37 AM
Toulouuuuuuuuuuuuse !

P3T3R BARK3R
07-26-2005, 09:36 AM
does someone know 1. fc kaiserslautern from germany?

that is my favorite team

Cza_Slim
07-26-2005, 09:45 AM
The Juve top is a complete rip off of the Barca top

Cza_Slim
07-26-2005, 09:47 AM
What's everyone think bout resisdent lanky boy Peter Crouch at L'Pool???
I Think its a sht signing, Zenden's also abit old on it.

Ronin
07-26-2005, 10:27 AM
milan>>>chelsea

how many european cups you got?

how many league titles u got?

they have as much money, berlosconi is ridiculously rich but doesnt hog the market like the russian chunt

im glad most people in football hate chelsea now, what was once a good club is now a corporate whore that is the new face of a ruined game

:)

36chambers
07-26-2005, 11:29 AM
What do u base the "Milan>>>>Chelsea" theory on? History? How many trophies did Milan win last season? How many points were they clear of the league... oh wait ;$

Isnt Berlosconi and Milan just as worse as Abrahmovic and Chelsea? I didnt even know this but £17m for Inzaghi? haha thats as worse as Drogba. £21m for Nesta? Hes very good but not worth £21m. So talking about Chelsea spending all this money on players is stupid, seeing as Milan have spent their fair share too, maybe not as much as Chelsea, but they're definitely taken advantage of their financial situation in the past. Dont Milan president get the money to fund AC Milan via the government? And u sound like a Liverpool fan right now, If i wanted to support a team with history i wouldn't have supported Chelseal. Yay we won shit loads of titles in the 70's and 80's so were a better team than u? Milan have the history... but as a team, Chelsea would beat Milan right now... like they did yesterday. But we'll wait till they meet in the champions league.

Enough talking, over the next 10 years we'll see who wins more league titles, even tho Premier league is by far better than Seria A.

Hey Ronin...

http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v33/missypiggy/bes_sshhh.jpg

Sssshhhh! :D

FrenchShin
07-26-2005, 12:09 PM
£21 million for Nesta was a fair price by the time he was transferred. he was young and already excellent.

36chambers
07-26-2005, 08:47 PM
Thats not the point French, Ronin seems to think Chelsea are the only ones "ruining" Football. But he really has a case of blind rage. But hey, least Chelsea spend they're own money, Milan are just funded by a government. Woohoo.

FrenchShin
07-27-2005, 03:00 AM
it's a bit true that Chelsea is ruining the market transfer.

for example, in France, Nantes knows that Lyon wants Toulalan. But, they're waiting the last moment to know how much Lyon will get for the transfer of Essien to Chelsea. And then, they will ask a huge price, just because Lyon is expected to make a lot of money out of this transfer.
Then, Nantes will have to look for another defensive midfield, and they will be asked a huge price for anybody, just because they're supposed to get a lot of money from Lyon for Toulalan, and so on and so on.
Prices are increasing again. And this, for all the clubs, and a lot of them can't afford to buy players anymore. There should be a transfer cap, just like their is a salary cap in the NBA.
A draft system could be useful, but it's impossible, there are too many players, too many clubs. Could be funny though.

I mean, Chelsea puts too much money on the table, for every single player. And they're even not trapped in their own game, coz everybody knows the Russian pays.... so, everybody wants to make money out of him.

Ouroborous
07-27-2005, 05:06 PM
Thats not the point French, Ronin seems to think Chelsea are the only ones "ruining" Football. But he really has a case of blind rage. But hey, least Chelsea spend they're own money, Milan are just funded by a government. Woohoo.
Berlusconi(s) have run Milan for years & years, Silvio was only president of Italy last 5 years or so.............so thats not exactly true mister!

Inzaghi was the hottest striker in europe for 6 months or so after he signed, left sheva & that in the shade, can't remember that being the case for drogba....Inzaghi is a decent player, just dives A LOT and is offside a lot cos he plays off the shoulder of the last defender.

Chelsea won the league ONE YEAR, got to semi & quarters of champs league, hardly makes them most consistently brilliant european team, if they play same way for 2 or 3 years then yes they are up there but one seasn dont mean shit, look at porto. Were Porto the best team in europe going into last year cos they won the european cup the year after the uefa cup (and prob won portuguese league that year, though not sure)?

Ouroborous
07-27-2005, 05:08 PM
Milan's spending was market value at time with a restricted budget, Chelsea just pay stupid money for anyone, unlimited - they bought the title just like blackburn did back in the days spending £200m in 2 years - who else has ever done that?

Ouroborous
07-27-2005, 05:13 PM
Real Madrid are the only others up there.........i.e £40m for Figo, megabucks for Zidane & co. as their debts are wiped off every year by the King of Spain or some shit.

Utd (I wish had't) spent £28m on Veron & (glad they did) spent £19m on Ruud Van Horse, but that was due to revenue from marketing, ticket sales & prize money, none of which Chelsea really had in abundance...............all their money was from some bloke out to ruin football with the help of the most annoying, cuntish person in football (stand up peter kenyon)

36chambers
07-27-2005, 07:34 PM
So u think Roman woke up one day n thought... hmmm, im going 2 ruin football! I really dont think so... believe it or not but he loves Football. And the only reason Chelsea HAVE 2 pay stupid money is because other clubs add an extra 10m onto the value. But we have also had some good buys, ie robben 12m and Cech 7m. And made the best out of a mediocre player like Lampard and made him one of the best midfielders in the world right now.

And come on man, United have spent millions over the last few years too, Rio 30m, Rooney 30m after appearance etc, veron 28m, van nist 19m... thats over 100m Madrid... shit loads, i dont know the exact fees but pretty much every season they spend alot of money. Chelsea have just done what Madrid and United have done in 2 or 3 seasons. ? But we had 2, we wanted to be the best and we will be in 5 years time. Guaranteed. So just because we have done what they have done in just 1 season we are worse, why. And Inzaghi has never been considered as one of the greatest forwards in the world, i could name many strikers back in 98 who were above the level of him.

And u wont agree, but u could buy the best players in the world but u still have 2 make them work as 1 unit within a year. Mourinho didn't buy the best... we could have signed the best right back in the world, but we signed Paulo Ferreira instead, we could have signed the best central midfielder in the world, but we bought Tiago instead. Mourinho could have done things alot more easier but with all the media coverage (which by the way, the media have made us look 100 times worse that what we are) and hes gone the slightly harder route n bought semi good players and still slaughtered the league and SHOULD have got into the final of the champs league, but thats football. If you dont like the current state of football why are u here? Go watch some panzy american sport... and i dont remember saying Chelsea were the best Ourobourous... as ive said many times before we will be in years to come... but yeh, we have only been in the champs league 4 seasons... we got to the semi's twice and quaters twice, thats more that what arsenal and many other teams have accomplished in 9 or so years. Would Kenyon still be whatever u said if he was at Man U still? Afterall... he signed Van Nist and Rio for u, what more do u want?

We could argue 4 days and days about this, but getting it in ur ear everyday is enough 4 me, i wont stand down from what ive said.

Ronin
07-28-2005, 05:13 AM
lol shut the fuck up u nuthugger

milan although as rich as chelsea, have built their squad from decent priced players

nesta wasnt 21 million he was about 13 million cus it was like 25 million euros, as at that time italy was (still is) fucked up cus of the euro conversion

the point about chelsea is that they can outbid practically EVERYONE

word they arent the only ones but they are definitely the biggest of the spenders and it wont stop, if u wernt a chelsea fan you would see and probably hate them too

i used to like chelsea, they were a nice team to watch...now theyre just arrogant, with a twat of a manger, a snake in kenyon and a russian who doesnt give a SHIT aboiut football

hes making a name for himself with it, you can bet hes not gonna be around long and then all the merceneries will leave

like french says, theyre dictating how other teams spend now

do u even need essien? do u even need wright phillips?

you can write your essays, and you are a true fan but we say FUCK CHELSEA beacuse theyre ruining football

and milan WOULD beat you in the champs league, pre season friendleys dont mean shit

Ouroborous
07-28-2005, 02:13 PM
lol 36 calm down son, where's the love? we can talk civilly surely............

I meant Chelsea spent cold money on players......not money generated from ticket sales, prize money, marketing etc like utd. Utd, Milan etc spent the money over 4 or 5 years, not £125m in 1 year or £200m in 2.
Are you seriously saying you like Kenyon? I know a lot of Chelsea fans and they all hate him and I always have, he's the one dragging Chelsea' name thru the mud. What more d I want? erm how about not fucking up robben or roanldinho's transfers? yeah great.....
Abramovich's money is ruining football not him himself, as for spending stupid money, I think you can safely say Kenyon is more than 50% responsible for stupid prices, only reason teams want so much from chelsea is they pay well over odds i.e drogba £24m.

Inzaghi scored 10 goals in the first 2 stages of champs league & was top scorer in seria a, thats what i meant by one of best in europe at one time (that season), he's hardly shit anyway being at milan, juve & playing for italy his whole career?????
Lampard was hardly mediocre before you bought him in my opinion, not as good as he is now, but very much an exciting prospect.

Tiago is fucking shite by the way (like most of our midfielders) and ferreira was widely rated as the best european right back before euro 2004, regulalrly in the uefa select side.

Ouroborous
07-28-2005, 02:15 PM
I said Real were (almost) as bad anyway..........King of Spain wiping out their debts every year, spending £40m+ figo, £30m zidane etc.......

Fragmented
07-28-2005, 02:16 PM
ok here goes,

I personally have concluded this much since the roman takeover.

the whole situation at chelsea is pretty non benificial to football in a whole. there are lots of example to show for this.

First off Chelsea cannot be considered a true football team in the sense of how the current team has been built. i mean most of your starting 22 weren't even there before the roman takeover.

second off i don't think personally chelsea can justify the amount of money they've spent to the amount they've made on their success. ( man u & arsenal both recoup their transfer spending through sales, merchendice, sponsership ,winning cups etc. chelsea won't be able to balance the expendeture/income ratio ever.

personally i question how roman came about his vast billions, i don't doubt for a second thats most of that money is not gained legally i guess chelsea can be his little money laudering output. they club have possibally hired the worst team of people assemble in the history of football.

Jose Mourinho: the apitamy of arrogence, i actually had some respect for him but his outburst in the past 6 months haver left a sour taste in the mouth of most football fans cause most notabally the resignation of anders frisk.

Peter Kenyon: probably the worst individual apart from pini zahavi in football. he stands for the totally wrong direction in football and his comment and action are that of a slimey pompous twat.

Transfer policy: Pretty much this is the worst part of the roman takeover policy.

The way chelsea have monopolised the transfer market is totally unprofessional. they have cause a sharp price increase in nearly every transfer thats ongoing in the past 2 years, wayne rooney being a prime example here. do you really think he would have been sold for anywhere near that. i doubt it! i mean most of the chelsea purchases haven't even been required.

did you really need tiago, carvellho, crespo, joe cole, glen johnson, del horno, wright philips

honestly i think it's inflated the prices of nearly anybody who would have been available
i don't think thats a just situation unlike chelsea most club are trying to run a business not playing a game of monopoly.

i mean for all that money spent what have you actually got to show for it a league title and cup. your club assest won't ever stabalise at the rate you're going.

oh well as soon as mafiaoso money run out see jhow long your beloved cfc last before you're in liquidation

peace

FrenchShin
07-29-2005, 01:05 AM
I said Real were (almost) as bad anyway..........King of Spain wiping out their debts every year, spending £40m+ figo, £30m zidane etc....... you said it..."were".

and i hardly see how you can waste the market by buying one (very expensive) player per year.

but yeah they almost initiate the trend.

by tha way, zidane cost much more than figo.

Ronin
07-29-2005, 08:10 AM
lol 36 is now crying

footballs shit now compared to the old days anyway, money ruins most shit

transfer and salary caps are needed to make these faggot players actually care about the game

Fragmented
07-29-2005, 11:17 AM
personally ronin i see it like this.

sport itself has nearly lost all meaning, football soon will follow the same path as the overcommercialised american way of doing thing. i mean take for example basketball baseball and nfl these people are being paid tens of millions a year, there is no love in these sport just a capatalistic mentality.

i personally think people like kenyon, zahavi, ferdinand, roman, glazier, etc don't belong somewhere where passion is needed these people are a corruptive force that will eventually ruin everything in football.

just my 2 cents

002
07-29-2005, 01:01 PM
yea... only players w/ love for the game & shit right now are old ones.... Maldini... Zola...

36chambers
07-29-2005, 01:03 PM
haha basketball is the worst for money...

and yes, im crying so much... ill be crying more at the end of the season when we win the league again :D i just cant be arsed to type replys to 5 different Chelsea haters.

Go watch some b-ball ronin, seeing as its not as money orientated as football according 2 u.

Ouroborous
07-29-2005, 02:28 PM
i was just explaining my opinion after your little outburst 36, not a case of chelsea hating, just not approving of 'the movement' didn't mind chelsea in the luca days or immediately b4 abramovich (tho never liked bates). still dislike arsenal more than any other team (on the pitch) but the whole chelsea thing is so O.T.T. and fucking stupid, boring, damaging. They bid for players just to try & stop other teams getting them (reyes, obi-mikel, hleb for example) I like Mourinho when he's not being a bad sport or talking shit, he's a good character, someone missing since wee gordan strachan, i don't dislike majority of chelsea players either. just don't think u can compare accomplishments with chelsea with any others cos of the dough etc involved - sure teams have to gel, but by paying for the best u are more likely to overcome that..........

Ouroborous
07-29-2005, 02:29 PM
Wish Rio would fuck off to Chelsea if he's going to be such a disloyal greedy cunt.

36chambers
07-29-2005, 04:23 PM
What? Chelsea never bidded for Hleb or Reyes... or stopped Arsenal from getting them, where did you get that from? Plus we had a true claim to Obi even before Man U knew he existed. Please, dislike Chelsea all u like but dont believe everything u read. The media isnt helping the situation either, how many players a day are we linked with in the English papers? About 5 or 6 a day probably. Alot of it is BS. But fuck it, i cant be arsed to get into it all again. And i love how everyone hates Mourinho cos he tells it like it is and hes arrogant about it, so what? Most of the shit he says is true, he even said at the start of the season we would win the league at Bolton on April 30th... look what happened! If Mourinho was the manager of your club(s), you would LOVE him.

And of course u never minded us in the Vialli days, thats because your club was pretty much guaranteed a top 2 spot due 2 the lack of threat coming from the other 18 clubs. This is one of the reasons why i catch alot of shit from Gunners and United fans. I think Chelsea have done what any other club would have done in the situation with an open cheque book, but we havent really signed the GREATEST players in the world, the only "superstars" we signed were Crespo and Veron... hmmm.

And why does Rio need to sign a new contract, doesn't he have 2 or 3 years left on his current one? Chelsea dont need him, we have John Terry :D

Ouroborous, PM me your reply if you want to continue with this lil debate, id like to carry on but i cant answer to like 4 different people at a time, and ronin... your mothers hairy scavey twat :fucku:

Krimewave
07-30-2005, 08:41 AM
Wish Rio would fuck off to Chelsea if he's going to be such a disloyal greedy cunt.
would rather see Fergie make him warm the bench for the 2 years he has left on his contract and then see who wants a player who hasn't played a game for two years on a free.
effectively, it would end his career.
that would serve the cunt right.

at least some of the money Utd would lose on the transfer, they will have saved by not updating his contract.

Krimewave
07-30-2005, 09:04 AM
..........Plus we had a true claim to Obi even before Man U knew he existed. Please, dislike Chelsea all u like but dont believe everything u read. The media isnt helping the situation either, how many players a day are we linked with in the English papers? About 5 or 6 a day probably. Alot of it is BS. But fuck it, i cant be arsed to get into it all again. And i love how everyone hates Mourinho cos he tells it like it is and hes arrogant about it, so what? Most of the shit he says is true, he even said at the start of the season we would win the league at Bolton on April 30th... look what happened! If Mourinho was the manager of your club(s), you would LOVE him.

I have no problem with chelsea and I like mourinho alot (loved it when he "hushed" the scousers in the league cup final, funny as fuck), but this whole obi situation stinks of corruption to me.
one minute he is happy to sign for Utd (despite knowing of chelsea's interest), then his family get death threats and John Shittu kidnaps him and he changes his mind and says he wants to play for chelsea, and that he was forced to sign for Utd.
ffs, you gotta admit it sounds dodgy as fuck, especially when you know how angry abramovich was when he heard Utd had turned him over.
well, as far as I'm concerned he can fuck off cause Utd don't need anyone who doesn't want to play for them, but chelsea should have to buy him from Utd, not just get him.
if FIFA rule in chelsea's favour then that puts out a message to every player that they can try and wangle out of any contract they change their mind about.

and Utd had heard of him years before chelsea, he was gonna sign for Utd but there were problems with work permits.

basically, just because a player is training with your club don't give you the right to say he is your player until he signs a contract saying as much.

36chambers
07-30-2005, 12:37 PM
End of the day he signed a contract with United, although he says he got "bullied" into it, he should still honour it.

36chambers
07-30-2005, 12:38 PM
Im gunna start a fantasy football league online, anyone interested?

English Premier league only, but everyone is welcome.

FrenchShin
07-30-2005, 01:08 PM
Baptista and Robinho signed at Madrid. still no defenser.

P3T3R BARK3R
07-30-2005, 01:57 PM
^^^
they even sold walter samuel to inter

FrenchShin
07-30-2005, 02:26 PM
he's only on loan.

Ronin
07-31-2005, 03:27 AM
36, u mean the one i showed u, that fantasy league one?

im up for that again, but dont beat the shit out of me again u cokney scummer...i need a bigger headstart!

when does the season start?

FrenchShin
07-31-2005, 06:02 AM
Owen is on the market.

by the way, from what i read, i see that Madrid is betting a lot on Woodgate for this season... weird bet...

FrenchShin
07-31-2005, 09:49 AM
he's only on loan.
i made a mistake, he's been finally transfered for 16 million euros. Real is said to be scouting for a central defenser now.

Ronin
07-31-2005, 10:37 AM
woodgate is very good but as u know, injury prone

owen is wasting his time at that club, they dont like to play players who arnt 'super stars' even though they arnt on the level they once were

id pick owen up front over raul and ronaldo for sure, just look at his goal ratio

my bet is he goes to arsenal or man yoo!

36chambers
07-31-2005, 11:39 AM
Anyone wants to join the wutangcorp Fantasy Football league...

Its free and will take about 5mins. Sign up at http://fantasy.premierleague.com/M/register.mc (http://fantasy.premierleague.com/) and make a team, u have £100m. After you have confirmed everything click on leagues on the right hand side and enter 203344-32606 into the private league box.

U must confirm your team first tho.

Ouroborous
07-31-2005, 12:31 PM
My prediction for next Prem season:
1 - Man Utd
2 - Chelsea
3 - Liverpool
4 - Arsenal
5 - Tottenham
6 - Newcastle
7 - Everton
8 - Middlesbrough
9 - Charlton
10 - Bolton
11 - Man City
12 - Aston Villa
13 - Birmingham
14 - Blackburn
15 - Portsmouth
16 - West Brom
17 - Fulham
18 - Sunderland
19 - West Ham
20 - Wigan

Ouroborous
07-31-2005, 12:48 PM
Anyone wants to join the wutangcorp Fantasy Football league...

Its free and will take about 5mins. Sign up at http://fantasy.premierleague.com/M/register.mc and make a team, u have £100m. After you have confirmed everything click on leagues on the right hand side and enter 203344-32606 into the private league box.

U must confirm your team first tho.
Sign me up for some of that shit me thinks.........

Ronin
07-31-2005, 04:39 PM
mine

1.chelsea
2.arsenal
3.man yoo
4.liverpool
5.spurs
6.bolton
7.everton
8.newcastle
9.middlesborough
10.man city
11.blackburn
12.charlton
13.aston villa
14.b ham city
15.fullham
16.portsmouth
17.sunderland
18.west brom
19.west ham
20.wigan

36chambers
07-31-2005, 06:08 PM
Its just me, Ronin and Ouroborous (i think) so far for the Fantasy football.

Krimewave, Frenchshin... sign up ;)

36chambers
07-31-2005, 06:29 PM
Hey, Ouroborous...

U see the News of the World on Sunday? Page 16... ;)




































































































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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^O^

_Goddess_
07-31-2005, 08:47 PM
You like football don't you?

I HATE FOOTBALL :)

_Goddess_
07-31-2005, 08:48 PM
Tigerstyle.

Ronin
08-01-2005, 06:43 AM
what a fag, elton johns gonna be after him now and bum himn to oblivion

Ouroborous
08-01-2005, 12:13 PM
Its just me, Ronin and Ouroborous (i think) so far for the Fantasy football.

Krimewave, Frenchshin... sign up ;)
yup thats me

Ouroborous
08-01-2005, 12:16 PM
Hey, Ouroborous...

U see the News of the World on Sunday? Page 16... ;)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^O^
Haha, yeah classic, did see it..... W.T.F comes to mind.

The boy on the pitch........ (the girl off it?) lol.

No defense for that. Shocking.

Ouroborous
08-01-2005, 12:17 PM
Doesn't quite beat the story about Le Saux in his Chelsea days.... featuring Sisqo, Lennox Lewis, Marc Overmars & Sol Campbell. lol.

36chambers
08-01-2005, 02:16 PM
Doesn't quite beat the story about Le Saux in his Chelsea days.... featuring Sisqo, Lennox Lewis, Marc Overmars & Sol Campbell. lol.
woah... dont remember that one, but it does sound like an... interesting combination :yes:

ill give u credit tho, every other Man U fan has TRIED to defend him, but how the hell can u defend that? i always thought he was kinda fruity tho...

Roman Deini
08-01-2005, 02:46 PM
madrid is stupid. all they do is buy forwards, attacking minded players. they aint gonna upgrade their defense, shit is like a swiss cheese, they gonna concede a lot of goals next season, what if woodgate gets injured again and that will happen believe me. and the president is a bullshitter also with his we only gonna get spanish people, yeah right dream on.

oh and berlusconi is more richer then roman i read a few weeks back, thing is he dont break the bank for a player like roman is doing tho but who gives a fuck. i think roman gonna buy essien and after that he aint gonna buy some players for a few years maybe 1 or 2 every year. squad is young so they got a bright future ahead.

Ouroborous
08-01-2005, 02:49 PM
madrid is stupid. all they do is buy forwards, attacking minded players. they aint gonna upgrade their defense, shit is like a swiss cheese, they gonna concede a lot of goals next season
So very true. Raul Bravo.......couldn't even get in Leeds team before they were relegated, shocking player. Pavon..........enough said

Ouroborous
08-01-2005, 02:51 PM
woah... dont remember that one, but it does sound like an... interesting combination :yes:

ill give u credit tho, every other Man U fan has TRIED to defend him, but how the hell can u defend that? i always thought he was kinda fruity tho...
Defend his 'diving' 'no end product' 'overrated' slurs to the bloody end, but what was he thinking, even just for a laugh thats fucked up. Lucas & Walliams ought to get him on Little Britain to hang out with Emily Howard & friends. lol.

Ouroborous
08-01-2005, 02:52 PM
36 i'd cane you on Pro Evo 4 for the record.........there its said. Peace.

Soul Controller
08-01-2005, 04:51 PM
any chance of an online pro evo match? is that possible/

36chambers
08-01-2005, 06:02 PM
36 i'd cane you on Pro Evo 4 for the record.........there its said. Peace.
OHHHHH no u didnt just say that...

unlucky for u, PES5 will be online ;) im feelin a Chelsea Man U game right now :D

Soul Controller
08-01-2005, 06:18 PM
fuck all u
i will kill u with mighty everton

come!

FrenchShin
08-02-2005, 01:02 AM
i still wonder why y'all feel so much hate when talking about football...

Ronin
08-02-2005, 06:03 AM
yo french, its cus were english

we hate everything

GRRRRR

epsecially defensor word usage

Soul Controller
08-02-2005, 07:32 AM
i dont hate.. i didnt hate going to highbury with my arsenal mate and watchin them kills us 7/0

fuck that was class.. football dont make me hate. its a sport// how can sport effect u like that?

but on ISS i will kill u all!

Greek Gheynician Anal Tradition
08-02-2005, 10:23 AM
i think that panathinaikos will have an awesome football team in europe..u will c..anyway,in ISS i am the champion in the all night long tournaments wit my frineds..;)

Fragmented
08-02-2005, 01:14 PM
i joined the football league thing and for all you people waiting on pes5 my copy of we9 should arrive tomorrow or the next day :D if u want the link it's http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-37-014715801eb12b11456a718a36f40688-71-45-70-ox5.html

peace

36chambers
08-02-2005, 01:22 PM
i joined the football league thing and for all you people waiting on pes5 my copy of we9 should arrive tomorrow or the next day :D if u want the link it's http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-37-014715801eb12b11456a718a36f40688-71-45-70-ox5.html

peaceyehhh boyyyyyy... our league is getting bigger... slowly. is ur team name called the sickness???

click the link in my sig to chat about it ;)

Fragmented
08-02-2005, 01:40 PM
yep thats me :) did you check out the we9 link it's gonna be dope can't wait for all the updating thats gonna have to happen.

besides anybody done a 40+ yard free kick i scored one yesterday on 4*

oh yeah out of curiosity who think the xbox version is better then ps2 version of pes4 i'm juist curious because the xbox version hurts my eyes even on my hd set the pitch hurts my eyes

36chambers
08-02-2005, 01:43 PM
yeah i see the link, didnt know play.com had an asia site till i saw the same link on pesfan.com a week back.

but my ps2 isnt chipped, so ill have to wait until October or so... is there any difference at all between WE and PES gameplay?

i havent played the xbox version.

Fragmented
08-02-2005, 01:48 PM
well personally i find the timing slightly better on we8le but there are little differences between the two it all depends on the way you play but it's nice having both i guess.

my ps2 ain't chipped either i use swapmagic 3.6 with the reefer we8le patch pretty good.

i'll give u a link for swapmagic

http://www.swapmagic3.com/ check out the website and see what u think i haven';t had trouble loading any game i've brought

36chambers
08-02-2005, 01:53 PM
hmmmm looks good...

does play.com or anywhere else online sell it? or does play sell anything similar to this? or is it kinda illegal? lol

Fragmented
08-02-2005, 01:57 PM
hmm let me check i think they're legal it's just the stuff u can use it for can be illegal :D

http://www.ecskent.co.uk/ps2/html/swap_magic.html

try there they offer 24 recorder delivery for 20 quid not bad if i say so myself

36chambers
08-02-2005, 02:01 PM
cool cool, might get that shit, that PS2 flip lid looks cool too.

when u play winning 11 is it all in english n the commentary english too? not that the commentary matters much cos its shit :(

i never knew how much u could mod ur ps2, what would be the use for a 80gig hard drive in ur ps2?

Fragmented
08-02-2005, 02:08 PM
well if u got a big games collection etc and u don't want to ruin your dvd i guess i'm not all that sure to be honest i only use it to play my american rpg's and my we games
but i'm sure spome people can download games i guess :D

as for commertry etc i think it will be in japanese as will the game but after a couple of weeks if u use pesinsight pesfan there will be probably be translation patchs etc so don't worry too much the layout is pretty much the same as pes :) a couple of changes but shouldn't be too much of a struggle :)

FrenchShin
08-03-2005, 01:24 AM
yo french, its cus were english

we hate everything

GRRRRR

epsecially defensor word usage
defendor man...

Ronin
08-03-2005, 07:20 AM
i hear w11 is never as good as pes4 because we are a harder market to please and they tweak the game loads before its released here

i remember reading pes4 wasnt gonna look good cus the last w11 had slow down issues and they corrected it

they need to change alot from pes4 this year imo

WU-KILLAH
08-03-2005, 12:45 PM
Zidane+ Makelele + Thuram are back in the french selection I can't believe it !!!!!!!!!
RESPECT to these guys !

Fragmented
08-03-2005, 01:40 PM
i hear w11 is never as good as pes4 because we are a harder market to please and they tweak the game loads before its released here

i remember reading pes4 wasnt gonna look good cus the last w11 had slow down issues and they corrected it

they need to change alot from pes4 this year imo
Okies as a fan of both i'll post the difference of we and pes

for me personally i feel pes4 is a overall nice package it plays well not saying that they're ain't bugs but for me it was good we8 on the other hand i feel is for the more technical players i find it slightly harder on 6* and the slowdown weren't particularly bad it depends alot of the system u're using it on ( ps2's have different layers and slightly different layout inside i.e the older machine tend to have the better components) anyways besides thast i think it's honestly down to the way u play the game.

right now i feel we8le is quite a bit better then pes4 for gameplay it's a bit harder and the gameplay is quite complex and the first touch is slightly less responsive on the player with lower responce attributes making a tad more releastic they're also a few extra moves in the games which i'm sure are in we9 the update i'm using on it right now is the reffer 0.9 patch ( not the best patch but it's easiuer to deal with.

okies now onto we9. right first of all i'll say this now if pes5 is better then this it'llprobably not be touchable as a game from only playing 3 games on matchmode the game feels alot better responsively i've noticed they've made headers alot more responsive but have increase the differculty of crossing so it's not guareenteed to hit the net with every cross. the passing is quite fluid and also while it's noit as fast paced as say pes4 it's alot more technically minded the simple thing like player movement off the ball timing etc is much more precise making the more skillful player show i think ( fifa fans beware ) it's quite simular in some respects like way players run etc and quite a few of the mode are the same.

overall right now i don't think i'll play pes4 much anymore because we9 has blown me away

peace

FrenchShin
08-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Zidane+ Makelele + Thuram are back in the french selection I can't believe it !!!!!!!!!
RESPECT to these guys !
Thuram is not confirmed.

I know some guys who won't be very happy about that... Sagnol for one.

WU-KILLAH
08-03-2005, 03:02 PM
Yes, true, but when you have that kind of help you can't reject it...
Ok I have a match to watch....

Ouroborous
08-03-2005, 04:05 PM
they need to change alot from pes4 this year imo
Yeah, like stop Pro Evil from rearing its ugly head..........

36chambers
08-03-2005, 07:12 PM
Zidane+ Makelele + Thuram are back in the french selection I can't believe it !!!!!!!!!
RESPECT to these guys !
woah really?

thats good news for u French people, Makelele has had an amazing season for Chelsea, the best ive seen him and Zidane is just Zidane, one of the best.

How long they playing for? I cant imagine them at the World Cup in 2006.

FrenchShin
08-04-2005, 04:14 AM
for the moment it's a mission to get through the qualifications, especially against ireland. 2006 is not so far away.
anyway, makelele is still above pedretti, mavuba, diarra and dacourt.
and zidane, even if he can barely play a whole match, is still better than rothen, pires, meriem, and all the others...
damn i still dream of that france-holland game with zidane and micoud playing at the same time. brilliant.

WU-KILLAH
08-04-2005, 04:43 AM
How long they playing for? I cant imagine them at the World Cup in 2006.
I heard they'd only play qualification matchs ... but who knows ? maybe they'll be there for 2006 ... I think they'll still have the level to deserve a place in France team for the worldcup...

Ronin
08-04-2005, 08:06 AM
isnt makalele only 31? if so he can still play in a years time, hes fucking monstrous....easily one of the best holding midfielders in the world

i aint seen much spanish football, dunno how zizou is doing but hes a legend

i hope he doesnt become like figo and retires gracefully

Fr@z
08-04-2005, 12:00 PM
Ranger's will win the champions league this year thanks to the legendary Dado Prso.

36chambers
08-04-2005, 01:51 PM
:{

Roman Deini
08-04-2005, 02:49 PM
Ranger's will win the champions league this year thanks to the legendary Dado Prso.
LMAO x million times.

Ouroborous
08-04-2005, 04:14 PM
Bye bye Phil Neville. Leg-end. What odds Neville to get sent off first day of season against Man U?

36chambers
08-04-2005, 06:02 PM
Who in there right mind would pay over £3m for Phil Neville...

WU-KILLAH
08-04-2005, 07:15 PM
the legendary Dado Prso

it's good to laugh sometime :mmmyah:

36chambers
08-05-2005, 09:39 AM
Congrats 2 Marseille on there Intertoto win, I saw the goals and they were very nice.

Looks like Marseille have a very good team right now.

Fr@z
08-05-2005, 09:47 AM
All of you are jealous that Mystic Prso doesn't play for the team you support.

Don't feel bad because he's worth 85 million and 5 of Real Madrids best players.

36chambers
08-05-2005, 10:13 AM
I prefere Rangers over Celtic, must be a Blue thing :thumbup:

Fr@z
08-05-2005, 10:18 AM
Chelsea?

FrenchShin
08-05-2005, 12:06 PM
All of you are jealous that Mystic Prso doesn't play for the team you support.

Don't feel bad because he's worth 85 million and 5 of Real Madrids best players.
you really need to watch something else than the Scottish championship.

don't forget Prso is well known in France, he played for several clubs here... so, we know what's up with him. he's good. he's not god.

"God is back" - Thierry Henry, speaking of Zidane *D

Ouroborous
08-05-2005, 12:24 PM
Who in there right mind would pay over £3m for Phil Neville...
I'm just guessing, but........ David Moyes perhaps? lol.

B.A.R.G.A.I.N.

Fr@z
08-05-2005, 02:44 PM
you really need to watch something else than the Scottish championship.

don't forget Prso is well known in France, he played for several clubs here... so, we know what's up with him. he's good. he's not god.

"God is back" - Thierry Henry, speaking of Zidane *D
Dado Prso is a legend why can't you respect that?

36chambers
08-05-2005, 08:15 PM
"God is back" - Thierry Henry, speaking of Zidane *D
Did Henry also say "the owner is back" about Makelele? If he didnt he should have... :yes:

Watch Big Mak take Vieira's place.

Ouroborous
08-06-2005, 04:36 AM
Did Henry also say "the owner is back" about Makelele?
and possibly kack is back about Barthez?

Roman Deini
08-06-2005, 04:47 AM
prso aint a legend. he didnt done shit like a cruyff or pele or di stefano. those are legends, prso is just a nobody.

Ouroborous
08-06-2005, 05:58 AM
Andy Goram..............now thats a Glasgow Rangers (and Man U!!! lol) legend

FrenchShin
08-06-2005, 06:29 AM
Dado Prso is a legend why can't you respect that?
i respect the fact that even Marc Libbra scored loads of goals in the Scottish championship. he was not a shitty player, but an average one.

FrenchShin
08-06-2005, 06:34 AM
Watch Big Mak take Vieira's place.
different styles. but i prefer makelele. much more efficient as a defensive midfield than vieira, who is more efficient to take the ball forward.
i guess i have much more respect for a real defensive midfield.

they'll play together in the french team. pedretti will be on the bench.

by the way, in the french team, barthez is the best. even coupet is not as good. Man U fans can only remember what he did there.

kewell07
08-06-2005, 06:54 AM
Dado Prso is a legend why can't you respect that?
FLMAO...Prso a legend? lay off the crack mate.
No legends plays in scotland anyway, LOL

Ouroborous
08-06-2005, 07:24 AM
FrenchShin, Barthez is a clown just as much for Marseille as he was for Man Utd, he is a very good shot stopper but so is David James........both inconsistent & unreliable, now Sebastien Frey, he is a good goalkeeper.

FrenchShin
08-06-2005, 08:51 AM
believe me, i don't need you to tell me what should i think about barthez. frey is very good, but for a reason i ignore, landreau is still the 3rd keeper of the french team.

Fr@z
08-06-2005, 10:13 AM
Croatia will win the next world cup because of the mystic one known only as Prso.

Roman Deini
08-06-2005, 12:43 PM
you some funny motherfucker.

36chambers
08-06-2005, 01:20 PM
what about scotland? :D

Ouroborous
08-06-2005, 01:38 PM
believe me, i don't need you to tell me what should i think about barthez. frey is very good, but for a reason i ignore, landreau is still the 3rd keeper of the french team.
So where exactly is Frey amongst French keepers, from what i've seen of them all I think he is the best, no? I was just stating my opinion on Barthez, not ramming it down your throat. no offence intended dude.

FrenchShin
08-07-2005, 05:59 AM
barthez-coupet-landreau-frey

that's the order in the french team right now

plus frey fucked up by going to fiorentina.... even dutruel, while playing at barηa, wasn't able to make it in the french team.

but i agree, landreau is not as good as they say at the federation.

Fr@z
08-07-2005, 11:33 AM
what about scotland? :D
Who?

Soul Controller
08-07-2005, 04:35 PM
neville.. for 3 million is a bargain.. prso.. wtf? he is worse than fucking danial amokachi! :(
nah fuck that he is claudio canniggia with out the drugs.. he could never make it any of the real leagues in E.U spain england germany italy/ not even holland of france.. maybe the scandinavian leagues.. buts thats about it

scotland? lol they been the same boring team for 4 years :( no 7 years..

i used to like them back in the day
with nevin/sharpey/mcallister/mccall in their

36chambers
08-07-2005, 05:56 PM
oooooh weeeee just got home from Cardiff, Makelele played SICK. Role on the premiership!!!

http://www.chelseafc.com/images/-MATCHES0506/arsenal_cs19b.jpg

Terry is a fuckin legend!!! :hooray:

Ronin
08-08-2005, 02:13 AM
its a curse winning that shit

ironmantis
08-08-2005, 03:39 AM
did anyone see that Gilberto skill near the end of the game, if anyone has that, can they upload it?


p.s.: we are looking for more people to join the Premiership fantasy football league that we got going, you have one week left to join.

peace

Ouroborous
08-08-2005, 12:37 PM
prso.. wtf? he is worse than fucking danial amokachi! :(
nah fuck that he is claudio canniggia with out the drugs
lol. nice comparison.

Makalele is awesome at breaking up attack and winning tackles in defensive positions but to be honest he loses possession as much as he wins it back, always dwelling on the ball and getting caught out, happened 3 or 4 times yesterday.

Sod Phil Neville, i'm dissapointed Kleberson has finally gone (tho i don't blame him for wanting out)

Soul Controller
08-08-2005, 12:55 PM
dissapointed kleberson went? lol u the only man u fan i know who says that,, he didnt have a terribly good time with u.. but most man u fans want him to go.. why did u want him to stay?
i wouild have rather had him than neville!

i feel so scared v villareal tomorrow. they gone own us :(

Ouroborous
08-08-2005, 01:05 PM
because he's the best passer of the ball in the league (along with gerrard and xabi alonso) and he was victim of being media hounded just like seba, media ratings are always ridiculous (lampard 12 out of 10 every game, kleberson -2 out of 10 every game) he didn't actually ever have a run in the team - 3 games in row most? admittedly he was injured a lot but he is classiest player we had and best player to come in if scholes injured - he'll be another forlan - great elsewhere when he gets a decent chance........i still think he's as good a player as ferguson claimed when we bought him, though Fergy never gave him the chance.

WU-KILLAH
08-08-2005, 01:36 PM
Terry is a fuckin legend!!!

That's the fuckin truth but maybe he should win the champion's league to really become a legend ^O^

Krimewave
08-08-2005, 05:57 PM
Billy Bigpockets has finally signed his fuckin contract:-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-1727020,00.html

but if he don't play tomorrow night, you can bet he's gonna be sold.
if he starts the game, he's staying at OT.

36chambers
08-09-2005, 07:15 AM
Peoples predictions for the top 4 this season?

Mine is;

1. Chelsea
2. Man U
3. Arsenal
4. Tottenham

Some may laugh at Spurs in 4th but they really have a good chance this season, with Davids, Defoe on form and Martin Jol i think they can do it... although it pains me to say ;)

36chambers
08-09-2005, 07:16 AM
That's the fuckin truth but maybe he should win the champion's league to really become a legend ^O^
very true. Maybe in may 2006 he'll become a real legend :yes:

u might enjoy this wu-killah... then again u might not :mmmyah: but...

http://www.cya.co.il/up02/05/08/07/drog1.gif

Drogba will score lots of goals this season...

Soul Controller
08-09-2005, 07:50 AM
yes he will.. but ur top 4 is :|

u a secret sputrs fan? lol

Ronin
08-09-2005, 09:04 AM
"Drogba will score lots of goals this season..."


ROFL

i could score lots of goals with a billion pound team behind me, imahgine a good striker at your club

36chambers
08-09-2005, 09:41 AM
^^^ no u cant, ur pants. dont be a gaylord all the time.

Ronin
08-09-2005, 10:05 AM
fuck you, hes a waste of money

hes incredibly over rated and chelsea only bought him cus they could

Ronin
08-09-2005, 10:17 AM
time for a european leage dream team!

buffon

cafu nesta terry a. cole

joaquin makalele gerrard pires(cant think of anyone better)

ronaldinho
henry

my prem, chelsea style bitch

cech

ferreria terry king cole

makalele
gerrard

ronaldo lampard pires

henry


EDIT: THE FORMATING FUCKED IT UP

Fragmented
08-09-2005, 10:27 AM
my european dream team is

Buffon

zanetti nesta terry cole

Vieira ( 2002 form )
kaka Vicente
Ronaldinho
Robinho
Henry

Soul Controller
08-09-2005, 11:28 AM
do the one on eufa.com
!
uefa.com

36chambers
08-09-2005, 11:30 AM
fuck you, hes a waste of money
so is ur mother :D



Premiership:

Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Gallas, Del Horno, Gudjohnsen, Lampard, Makelele, Duff, Robben, Drogba.

Euro:

Cech, Cafu, Terry, Ferdinand, Heinze, Ronaldinho, Makelele, Lampard, Robben, Adriano, Shevchenko.

36chambers
08-09-2005, 11:32 AM
do the one on eufa.com
!
uefa.com
thats the champs league one isnt it?

oooooh we should have another league 4 that...

WU-KILLAH
08-09-2005, 12:22 PM
very true. Maybe in may 2006 he'll become a real legend :yes:

u might enjoy this wu-killah... then again u might not :mmmyah: but...

http://www.cya.co.il/up02/05/08/07/drog1.gif

Drogba will score lots of goals this season...


ahahah lol even if he left he still a legend here and I'm very happy when he scores with Chelsea ... and he'll be stronger when he'll come back ! ;)

Fr@z
08-09-2005, 12:28 PM
My dream team is

Dado Prso

36chambers
08-09-2005, 12:30 PM
ahahah lol even if he left he still a legend here and I'm very happy when he scores with Chelsea ... and he'll be stronger when he'll come back ! ;)
bet u enjoyed his 2 goals last season in the champs league against PSG ;)

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/3862/drogbapsg5xo.gif

I saw the Marseille Intertoto cup goals last week, they were very good. Marseille look like they have a very good strong and fit team this season, hopefully they'll be back to there old mid 90's glory years soon.

Roman Deini
08-09-2005, 12:53 PM
marseille should perform better in the league, played two matches lost them both.

Fr@z
08-09-2005, 12:56 PM
If Marseille had Prso in there team they would win every game.

^ Real talk

Ouroborous
08-09-2005, 01:04 PM
Peoples predictions for the top 4 this season?
Mine is;

1. Newton Heath FC
2. Abramovich FC
3. Mersey Red FC
4. Emirates London Red FC

throw in Spurs for 5th.

[/QUOTE]

Ouroborous
08-09-2005, 01:13 PM
Premiership:

Cech, Carragher, Terry, Heinze, Del Horno, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Rooney, Robben, Van Nistelrooy, Henry.

Euro:

Cech, Zanetti, Terry, Heinze, Zambrotta, Ronaldinho, Riquelme, Ronaldo , Eto'o, Adriano, Rooney

Ouroborous
08-09-2005, 01:15 PM
If Marseille had Prso in there team they would win every game.

We'll see how good Prso is against the Legendary Mystical Temuri Ketsbaia, player coach of Rangers Champs League opposition and reigning 'World Advertising Hoarding Demolisher'

Fr@z
08-09-2005, 01:42 PM
http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/02/49/Dado_Prso.jpg

FrenchShin
08-09-2005, 02:10 PM
marseille is so good that they lost 2-0 in the 2 first games of the french league....

36chambers
08-09-2005, 03:34 PM
'World Advertising Hoarding Demolisher'muhahahaa i like Ouro

Fragmented
08-09-2005, 04:56 PM
oh yeah just to be funny i added my face into we9 upfront for villareal :D

anyways anyone think van nostrelhair is gonna have a good season ?

i'mnot sure what sot of team im gonna play in the season i've done like 20 transfers so far :)

36chambers
08-09-2005, 05:55 PM
ive changed mine a few times now, just messing round with the forwards thats all.

WU-KILLAH
08-10-2005, 02:05 AM
bet u enjoyed his 2 goals last season in the champs league against PSG ;)

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/3862/drogbapsg5xo.gif

I saw the Marseille Intertoto cup goals last week, they were very good. Marseille look like they have a very good strong and fit team this season, hopefully they'll be back to there old mid 90's glory years soon.


Of course I enjoyed these goals *D ... and we all liked the fact he screamed "allez l'OM" after he scored... last season I won't say he was disappointing but I think he needed to be used to english championship that's why I think this year he'll be at his best...

Concerning Marseille the beginning of the season is pretty disappointing , but sunday OM/Lyon, it will be a real test....

If Marseille had Prso in there team they would win every game.

No seriously, Prso ain't shit ... but it's true I haven't been seeing him since he plays for the rangers so maybe he's very good in the scotish league but I don't like that kind of slow heavy striker ... (if you want we give you Luyindula for free ) O:|

Ouroborous
08-10-2005, 04:19 PM
anyways anyone think van nostrelhair is gonna have a good season ?

For fucking sure. 36 goals in 39 champions league matches or whatever it is, fucking awesome.

If he keeps fit, doesn't get injured, hello Golden Boot.

Just have to say (AGAIN...) GIUSEPPE ROSSI IS GOING TO BE AWESOME

36chambers
08-10-2005, 07:38 PM
who ;)

Fragmented
08-10-2005, 08:19 PM
rossi needs a couple more seasons to mature he's got the making of a good player though

not really sure what to make of man u right now seems like they have a ok team but something missing for the formula

perhaps time will tell

no offence to chelsea but i hope somebody else win it this year.

peace

Ronin
08-11-2005, 07:13 AM
nistelrooy is past it, he was wicked but has lost his pace and some of his finishing it seems

man yoo shouldve sold him to madrid when they were offering money that woukd make him a profit

Longbongcilvaringz
08-11-2005, 08:37 AM
nistelrooy these days only seems to score of tap in from deep inside the box. he would have to be the most prolific sherry picker the game has ever seen.

36chambers
08-11-2005, 09:11 AM
nah Nistelrooy will be up again with the top scorers this season, hes looking sharpe in pre season.

And hes always scored his goal in the box, dont think hes scored 1 outside the box at Man U. Hes a real goal poacher. And i can see Man U finishing 2nd this season... behind the Blues.

Krimewave
08-11-2005, 09:11 AM
Ruud has always got all his goals from deep inside the box, so in fact there's no change there.

Krimewave
08-11-2005, 09:14 AM
nistelrooy is past it

:mmmyah:
just wishful thinking on your behalf I reckon

WU-KILLAH
08-11-2005, 09:26 AM
Park is a very smart recruit, Rooney+ Van nistelroy with park behind it's gonna hurt ... And when you see the quality of Man U's defence I think they have a well balanced team ... it can sound crazy but I think they'll win the premier league this year (sorry 36th :Y )

Ouroborous
08-11-2005, 12:28 PM
Park is a very smart recruit, Rooney+ Van nistelroy with park behind it's gonna hurt ... And when you see the quality of Man U's defence I think they have a well balanced team ... it can sound crazy but I think they'll win the premier league this year (sorry 36th :Y )
Good man, you know it makes sense!

Ouroborous
08-11-2005, 12:29 PM
nistelrooy these days only seems to score of tap in from deep inside the box. he would have to be the most prolific sherry picker the game has ever seen.
I'd still say Linekar, van nistelrooy has scored some goals from beyond the penalty spot, linekar never did, the 6 yard striker, was always the goal hanger in the school playground

Fragmented
08-12-2005, 10:42 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4140760.stm


if united get him their defense will probably be the best in the prem

Soul Controller
08-12-2005, 11:25 AM
wtf?
how

ferdinand is way over rated..
silvestre is good at times
heinze is the only world class degfender utd hace
so how will their defence be the best in the prem.. when other teams who are up their wit u
have more world class defenders than u?

FrenchShin
08-12-2005, 01:55 PM
Ciicinho is worth a looooooooot of money. i'm surprised only a few clubs want him.

Roman Deini
08-12-2005, 02:02 PM
cicinho dreams of playing at milan so he most likely will end up there and nowhere else.

Ouroborous
08-12-2005, 02:23 PM
wtf?
how

ferdinand is way over rated..
silvestre is good at times
heinze is the only world class degfender utd hace
so how will their defence be the best in the prem.. when other teams who are up their wit u
have more world class defenders than u?
Erm, like who? Arsenal? (no) Liverpool? (no),only reason we didn't have best defensive record in the league last year was Cech.

Ferdinand is world class love him or hate him, Heinze is awesome, Silvestre on song is quality, Wes is superb & Gary Neville is a fucking good player no matter what people that hate him say. Fortune or O'Shea at left back, ok will give you they are pretty ropey but the others are more than good enough.

I wouldn't swap United's back 4 with any European team let alone English team. Milan's is old & creaking, Barca's & real's is virtually non existant.

Krimewave
08-12-2005, 04:33 PM
wtf?
how

ferdinand is way over rated..
silvestre is good at times
heinze is the only world class degfender utd hace
so how will their defence be the best in the prem.. when other teams who are up their wit u
have more world class defenders than u?

Heinze, G. Neville and Ferdinand are all world class defenders (despite Ferdinand's short comings in heading and tight marking).

Wes Brown and Silvestre would make every other prem team's starting 11 with the exception of Chelsea.

Krimewave
08-12-2005, 04:35 PM
anyway, here's the latest in the Obi Mikel saga:-

http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,14546,-5206387,00.html

this kid has 5 agents.
no wonder he's been so much trouble.

*edit* heres another link:-

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldFootballNews&summit=&storyid=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20050812:MTFH61 678_2005-08-12_19-26-16_L12702572:1

Roman Deini
08-12-2005, 04:47 PM
five? holy shit.

Fr@z
08-12-2005, 04:52 PM
Prso has 22 secret agents

Roman Deini
08-12-2005, 04:52 PM
and he still aint shit.

Fr@z
08-12-2005, 05:02 PM
You obviously haven't seen The Mystic One in action.

Ronin
08-12-2005, 06:13 PM
lol at the man yoo fans, they still nuthugg...can i ask if your from manchester?

milans defence is still fucking better than man yoos even if it is old

nesta>ferdinand

cafu>neville

stam>silvestre/brown

maldini still>heinze

i think milan need to recruit some young players though

arsenals defence is average but they are the best going forward while chelsea are boring cunts who sit behind the ball 89 minutes

no doubt they have a good defence though

man u are probably the best balanced of the top 3

imagine if they or arsenal had abramovich, shit would be even more ridiculous

Fr@z
08-12-2005, 06:18 PM
Imagine if Birmingham had Prso they would win the champions league

Fragmented
08-12-2005, 06:57 PM
i'm a football fan a long stopped supporting teams ( i'm from london old west ham supporter)

but anyways yah i personally think the man u defense works well together

i personally think ferdinand and heize are world class without a doubt if u add cichino to that thats a fucking great defense

i still think the west ham boys have done for themselves

i'd like to see west ham stay up

anyways peace

Fragmented
08-12-2005, 06:58 PM
imagine if prso played for colchester they;d get relagated :D

Fr@z
08-12-2005, 07:01 PM
1.Prso
2.Pele
3.Maradona

Soul Controller
08-12-2005, 07:47 PM
rofl

why do u love prso so much??

ferdinand is NOT WORLD CLASS


world class is branded around like it dpnt mean much

carragher/hyypia?
yobo kuldrup!!

course im grasping
but come on utd are a shadow of their team a mere 6 years ago

u need to bite ur tongues and accept,

but as u said, most of your back 4 would get into premiership sides

Fr@z
08-12-2005, 07:50 PM
Cos Prso's the GOAT

36chambers
08-12-2005, 08:41 PM
World class??? John Terry ;)

Man U's defence is far better than Arsenals, but still nothing can beat Terry and Gallas... yes im biased as fuck but its trueeeeeeeeeeeee. Heinze is Fergusons best signing in a while.

JOHN TERRY... WILLIAM GALLAS... JOHN TERRY.... WILLIAM GALLAS...

Fragmented
08-12-2005, 09:31 PM
i think united are missing in a skillful striker and a holding mid kean is getting on

arsenal's back 4 look good senderos is good but still young imo he'll be a great defender

i like john terry like carrager he does lack pace but more then makes up for with his spirit

and rio is world class look art how united perform without him imo he's alot classier on the ball then any english defender he's consistant as well

carrager had a great season but he ain't proven world class hyppia is good but he's quite slow

yobo is good but not great

per looks like being a quality defender, from the seria games i caught

36chambers
08-12-2005, 09:51 PM
Man U will come 2nd this season, the gap between the top 3 will be alot smaller than last season. But im still looking for Chelsea to win it. I would love it if Arsenal would finish 3rd :D

And I love how every Liverpool fan I know thinks Carragher is better than JT... MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA cocks!

Ouroborous
08-13-2005, 03:55 AM
Ronin,

Milan's defence is very good at throwing away a decent lead, don't see Man U's doing that very often, certainly wouldn't draw 3-3 with liverpool after being 3-0 up at half time, wouldn't lose 4-0 to Deportivo (or whatever it was) after winning first leg 3-0.

Yes Cafu is awesome (but to what degree as a defender?) Maldini is the best defender i've ever seen but is nowhere near being one of the best defenders in the world, Stam was awesome for us but isn't anywhere near as good for AC & Nesta is nowhere near same level as he was at Lazio (but I still like to think he is among the top defenders)

I'd definitely not swap defences with AC, ageing, detiorating in level and exposed.

As defenders, Heinze>Anyone very much including Maldini
Ferdinand=Nesta
Stam>Brown/Silvestre (not by a lot)
Neville>Cafu (other way around in attacking from right back)
Serginho/Kaladze/Simic>O'Shea/Fortune

Ouroborous
08-13-2005, 04:01 AM
Utd are a shadow of their team six years ago eh? Well personally I can't wait to see a fit Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs, Solskjaer & Scholes in the mix together for the first time, with Ferdinand, Brown, Silvestre, Heinze, G Nev in defence & Van Der Sar in goal I think we'll surprise a lot of people this year, not leas Chelsea & Arsenal fans.

As for Arsenals defence looking good? Er disagree. Toure is inconsistent, Senderos lacks any concentration and is extremely prone to errors, ashley cole can not defend to save his life, lauren is a shit defender & sol can never be arsed to play, i'm not even going to go into Cygan or their goalkeepers. Arsenal's best defender IMO is Clichy and both Eboue & Hoyte look better in defence to me than Lauren (who I think should fill Vieira's role as that is his proper position) Arsenals only hope for this season for me is play van persie more, Reyes more consistent & Owusu-Abeyie breaking through (as he is by far the quickest footballer I have ever seen)

Ouroborous
08-13-2005, 04:05 AM
World class??? John Terry ;)

Man U's defence is far better than Arsenals, but still nothing can beat Terry and Gallas... yes im biased as fuck but its trueeeeeeeeeeeee. Heinze is Fergusons best signing in a while.

JOHN TERRY... WILLIAM GALLAS... JOHN TERRY.... WILLIAM GALLAS...
36, I like Gallas & think he is right up there with the best defenders in the league but Mourinho always prefers Carvalho and with Ferreira, Terry, Carvalho & Del Horno fit how many games will he play? Can't see him getting in ahead of any of those 4, though I would put him in team ahead of Carvalho every time.

All MUFC need to do is put jittery Silvestre out of harms way at left back & let everyone see Heinze 'bring the pain' at centre half.

Nothing can beat Heinze & Ferdinand. Period.

Roman Deini
08-13-2005, 04:47 AM
jankulovski > heinze. wait till milan get cicinho, shits over.

Soul Controller
08-13-2005, 05:49 AM
utd in 1 hour
come on u toffee's!!


i go for 1-3

rooney with the consilation goal.

36chambers
08-13-2005, 06:05 AM
Guarantee u Gallas will play more games than Carvalho this season. Gallas was a make shift left back last season due to Bridge being injured and we had no other left back. So Gallas will be our 1st choice, along side John Terry, Ferreira (who surprised me, hes brilliant) and Del Horno with HOPEFULLY Bridge getting a few games too.

Like last season, our defence will be as tight as a nuns vagina.

36chambers
08-13-2005, 06:06 AM
Hope Everton get a draw at least, Goodison is a tough place to go 2.

Sunday = Wigan 0-3 Chelsea - Drogba, Gudjohnsen and Duff :D

Ronin
08-13-2005, 06:52 AM
drogba score? fuck that, id pick lampard to get more goals than him AGAIN

its obvious chelsea will buy themselves another title and will probably dominate the next 10 years and people will get bored of them even more than they have now

do u reckon amramovich got his receipt from barclycard last year?

"Well done mr Abramovich, on your purchase of the Premiership"

ouro i disagree but thats cool, man u have a good defence...carrager is very similair to terry, dont know if hes on the same level though, its not the hardest team to play in though chelsea

i think arsene pretty much fucked up this season by not buying a good keeper and getting another centre half, senderos and toure are a dope mix though, maybe they will get consistant

i heard the danish guy everton got is wicked, from udinese

Fragmented
08-13-2005, 07:08 AM
jankulovski > heinze. wait till milan get cicinho, shits over.
honestly deini i personally think heinze is better i've seen extensive amounts of seria a and i actually prefer heinze as a defender he's solid

i think everton have got a bargain in per though imo he could go on to be great

Fragmented
08-13-2005, 07:13 AM
Man U will come 2nd this season, the gap between the top 3 will be alot smaller than last season. But im still looking for Chelsea to win it. I would love it if Arsenal would finish 3rd :D

And I love how every Liverpool fan I know thinks Carragher is better than JT... MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA cocks!
like i said before to many of them carragher had a great season but what has he done for the past of his career at anfield terry is proven besides gallas as a dope defender

i think carvalho doesn't look all that most of the time

i mean hyppia imo is better then carragher he might be slower but he;s more consistant u can't buy that

Soul Controller
08-13-2005, 07:43 AM
course we fuckin switch off b4 half time
AGAIN!

bah

we made your world class defence look very normal in that 1st half.
withour not very imaginative attacking play

Krimewave
08-13-2005, 11:33 AM
lol at the man yoo fans, they still nuthugg...can i ask if your from manchester?


yes, from Crumpsall in North Manchester and like most folk from Manchester, I support United.

Ouroborous
08-13-2005, 01:31 PM
jankulovski > heinze. wait till milan get cicinho, shits over.
jankulovski better than heinze, hahaha, funniest shit i've heard for a long time

Ouroborous
08-13-2005, 01:33 PM
Utd did look shit in defence, admit that, but its first day of season...........

Ouroborous
08-13-2005, 01:39 PM
lol at the man yoo fans, they still nuthugg...can i ask if your from manchester?ask away, the answers no.

I love the way that questions always asked ONLY of Man Utd fans. Where I live (Essex) there's 4 times as many Liverpool fans as Man Utd.............. and being that they are around 20 years old, they would have begun likeing football & supporting Liverpool when LIVERPOOL (AND NOT for a long while MAN UTD) were winning trophies. Funny that glory hunting Arsenal (and erm... Tottenham) fans always use the excuse 'oh theyre local' - local is West Ham, Cambridge United, Colchester United, Peterborough etc. B/S.

I make no excuses or apologies for being a Man Utd fan and being born & raised in Essex, s'all good.

Roman Deini
08-13-2005, 01:46 PM
never heard of sarcasm haha.

Ouroborous
08-13-2005, 02:45 PM
never heard of sarcasm haha.
cos I haven't.......

36chambers
08-13-2005, 06:28 PM
Ahhh a new season starts...

Meaning ill have a year of Ronin on my MSN list going "ow chelsea bought the league, milan are the greatest, i wanna suck shevva off, im a little brummie toss pot ow ow ow"

:D

36chambers
08-13-2005, 06:30 PM
Good result Liverpool, you look like Champions drawing with 10 men Middlesbrough.

Fr@z
08-13-2005, 06:41 PM
Wigan will beat Chelsea tomorrow because Prso is gonna fly in on his magic carpet and score 8 goals in the first 5 minutes.

__Goddess__
08-13-2005, 11:35 PM
I hate football.

ZuManchu
08-13-2005, 11:50 PM
I hate you

__Goddess__
08-13-2005, 11:55 PM
I love you

ZuManchu
08-13-2005, 11:57 PM
Lets fuck

__Goddess__
08-13-2005, 11:58 PM
Maybe some other time.

ZuManchu
08-14-2005, 12:00 AM
Now bitch, im already naked

Soul Controller
08-14-2005, 06:43 AM
why does that fucking retard whore come to this thread, when she hates football.

does anyone here even give a fuck about u? let alone give a fuck that some irrelevant spec of dirt hates football?

u make urself look lamer and lamer each post u make, that u have nothing in common with the thread topic

__Goddess__
08-14-2005, 06:52 AM
u make urself look lamer and lamer each post u makeTalking about yourself soul controller?

__Goddess__
08-14-2005, 06:53 AM
haal de rest dan ook weg

36chambers
08-14-2005, 07:20 AM
All gone :D

Ronin
08-14-2005, 08:50 AM
i found a secret receipt given by Barclycard to Amramovich last may

"Congratulations Mr Abramovich on your purchase of the premiership"

Soul Controller
08-14-2005, 10:27 AM
thankies 36 :D

Roman Deini
08-15-2005, 11:26 AM
Essien going to Chelsea for 40 milion euro.

WU-KILLAH
08-15-2005, 12:31 PM
I knew Aulas would finally let him go, but I knew he would get his money and I think he made one of the best deal that have ever been made in Football history... C'mon ! Essien is very good but he doesn't worth 40 M€ !

Ouroborous
08-15-2005, 01:12 PM
36, JT was shitting himself Sunday, you boys were so lucky, would have lost if Wigan hadn't put on such a shite player as that Johansson, he screwed it up three times & Mahon missed a sitter. What a goal by Crespo though, seen him do that so many times.

As for The Arse, I think Steve Bennett had Henry in his fantasy team and one of his colleagues had Jenas...........he was a disgrace, senderos not even a yellow for bringing Dyer down as last man, jenas red for taking ball first man second (though was prob a yellow) then a very soft penalty

Krimewave
08-15-2005, 03:30 PM
ah well, its all swings and roundabouts.
the best team always wins the league at the end of the season.

FrenchShin
08-15-2005, 07:48 PM
I knew Aulas would finally let him go, but I knew he would get his money and I think he made one of the best deal that have ever been made in Football history... C'mon ! Essien is very good but he doesn't worth 40 M€ !
maybe not, but he's worth 38 million euros. the guy is a top defensive midfield, but can play wherever on the field. only a few players can score, defend, influence a whole game like he does.

whitey
08-16-2005, 01:48 AM
my all world team

buffon

puyol terry cannavaro henzie

ronaldo veria ronaldinho robben

henry ibrahmavic

36chambers
08-16-2005, 01:05 PM
yes we were lucky as fuck sunday, but hey, thats the sign of champions. we got outplayed for 90mins but still get the points, the same performance wont cut it against Arsenal sunday... which ill be attending ;)

man u were a bit lucky too... everton were all over them for a good 45mins n completely against the run of play man u get a goal out of nowhere.

Ouroborous
08-16-2005, 01:46 PM
not really lucky, edwin was superb, defence was rubbish, man u are always likely to score from nothing, second goal was half luck half shocking. dunno bout sign of champions thing, but sign of quality from crespo.

none of top three were impressive, but ours was prob most comfortable three points of the lot. JT did not look happy/comfortable though for once!

Pascal Chimbonda is THE BOY!

WU-KILLAH
08-16-2005, 02:01 PM
lol Skacel scored 3 goals in 3 matchs with Hearts of Midlothian, now Im starting to understand why Prso is so good in the scotish league !! *D

Krimewave
08-16-2005, 02:11 PM
man u were a bit lucky too... everton were all over them for a good 45mins n completely against the run of play man u get a goal out of nowhere.

more like 15 minutes, and Utd had already made 2 or 3 good chances before they scored, but it was a tough game until they handed Rooney the 2nd on a plate.
Nearly pissed meself laughing whenm that one went in.

Fragmented
08-16-2005, 02:19 PM
oh btw we9 is the best game on the ps2 it shits all over anything you'll ever play it's too dope can't wait for ll the moptions to be translated u even get a details report on why your player was mna of the match etc

too much sickness if u haven;t ordered that thing 36 i suggest u do and if u don't have we9 i'm sure i could spare u a copy by alternative means l:D

36chambers
08-16-2005, 03:09 PM
well i was going to wait for PES5 but is it that good?

Soul Controller
08-16-2005, 03:15 PM
fuck about>? we owned man u for the 1st 45 mins, u created one chance.. what scholes had.. i think.. it was like the match at goodison last year. we didnt let u play AT ALL, and u man u fans know all that coz if u go back i few pages.. i said that shit when the match was on and no one could say fuck all.
could have been so diff yobo didnt think rooney was oN his team still.
heh

better than last years opening home 4-1 defeat(ARSEnal) i went too

even tho we scored the goal of the year
!

peace

36chambers
08-16-2005, 03:17 PM
haha dont piss the toffee off ;)

Fragmented
08-16-2005, 03:34 PM
well i was going to wait for PES5 but is it that good?

man i can't play pes4 anymore since i got this it's so much better the corssing and everyhas improved it hasn't got that crap refeering offside bullshit decision are better

this skill also is more dependend on attributes then pes4 where u could dazzle the whole team with a defender, certain players like ronadinho have their own ways of pulling off tricks certain ways of taking penalties the animation and the way h game looks is beautiful the stadiums look better and besides that there is loads of options and the fact that there is an english translation patch of pesinsight makes it nearly perfect with all the right kits etc

right now it#s worth just getting swamp magic and if u can't afford the game just aqquire it somehow :D and u might aqquire it somehow by alink :D

anyways i can't wairt til pes5 now shit is looking to be the best game of all time
peace

Soul Controller
08-16-2005, 03:42 PM
shit pe5 sounds dope.
major news i heard today was the electrifying-wanna-be-argentine-crackhead PRSO
is not playin against brazilllll on wed coz his knee's swell up on flights..

what a role model