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snapple
04-02-2006, 02:29 PM
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html


I Don't reccomend this film. It mixes truth with bullshit. It promotes the "No PLane Hit The Pentagon/WTC Theory" which was already proven to be B.S.

To a further extent, I questioned the creators of this film and destroyed their no-plane hit the pentagon theory by posting a single link, and surprise surprise, my posts were deleted from their site.

These guys are frauds, there's a reason why the mainstream media has given this film a'lot of emphasis. It's films like this that are purposely released and given a'lot of attention, then disproved in order to make the 9/11 truth movement look bad to the general public.


Anyone with a brain knows that an airplane hit the pentagon/wtc. Don't be fooled by these people.

People please do not pay attention to this garbage, Also I urge you not to look at these movies either:

9/11: In Plane Site
Painful Deceptions

If you want to watch a video regarding 9/11 conspiracy theories that only give you the facts you can check out:

The Truth and Lies of 9/11
Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State

I said it before and i'll say it again, don't go believing every conspiracy you read on the INTERNET.

Machete
04-02-2006, 02:36 PM
Post that "single link" that destroyed the theory. I'm interested.

snapple
04-02-2006, 02:44 PM
^^ i posted a dope link man.....i'll help you out a little more since you dont wanna click the link i dropped

Size of 757 matches the initial size of hole in the building - somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high)
Rims found in building match those of a 757
Small turbine engine outside is an APU
Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine
Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos
Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo
Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211
Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes
Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object
Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon
60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage

Machete
04-02-2006, 02:49 PM
There's also multiple eye witnesses say they seen a military style jet zoom away shortly after the explosion. Why was the surveillance footage from the gas station collected by the government? Why are there missing scenes from the Pentagon's camera footage they released?

iniquity
04-02-2006, 06:34 PM
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html


I Don't reccomend this film. It mixes truth with bullshit. It promotes the "No PLane Hit The Pentagon/WTC Theory" which was already proven to be B.S.

To a further extent, I questioned the creators of this film and destroyed their no-plane hit the pentagon theory by posting a single link, and surprise surprise, my posts were deleted from their site.

These guys are frauds, there's a reason why the mainstream media has given this film a'lot of emphasis. It's films like this that are purposely released and given a'lot of attention, then disproved in order to make the 9/11 truth movement look bad to the general public.


Anyone with a brain knows that an airplane hit the pentagon/wtc. Don't be fooled by these people.

People please do not pay attention to this garbage, Also I urge you not to look at these movies either:

9/11: In Plane Site
Painful Deceptions

If you want to watch a video regarding 9/11 conspiracy theories that only give you the facts you can check out:

The Truth and Lies of 9/11
Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State

I said it before and i'll say it again, don't go believing every conspiracy you read on the INTERNET.

Let me get this straight. You tell us to not believe everything we read online yet your proof is from a messageboard that generalizes in conspiracy theories itself, such as "If the Aryans were smart enough to survive on the moon... " :looking:.



Questions I would like answered ...

-Where is the tail?

-Where are the 2 engines that combined weighed 12 tons?

-Where are the wings?

-Why don't they let us see the hotel & gas station videos?

-Where are the dead ppl? I know that the Gov says that over 60 ppl died but where are the pics?


Originally posted by johnlear

OK. Please know this. I have been a pilot for almost 50 years. No airman has more FAA certificates than I do. I had over 19,000 hours when I retired in 2001, 16,000 in large jets. I have participated in many crash investigations.
I have built airplanes, I have flown them, I have instructed in them, I have raced them and I have crashed them. The hypothesis that the wings and tail and fuel from a Boeing 757 disintegrated from the high kinetic energy of impact is pure, unadulterated, unmitigated B.S.

iniquity
04-02-2006, 06:49 PM
Where's the 757 Snapple?

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/images/pelouse.jpg

^Here?

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/images/second-anneau.jpg

^Or here?

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/pentalawn/pl11.jpg

^Wait... It's here .... :yes:




Oh & about the witnesses ...

"Some eyewitnesses believe the plane actually hit the ground at the base of the Pentagon first, and then skidded into the building." - CBS

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/pentalawn/pl6.jpg

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/pentalawn/pl7.jpg

^ Planes hitting the ground ...

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/pentalawn/pl12.jpg

^ Pentagon ...


:learning:

Ghost In The 'Lac
04-03-2006, 02:48 PM
, there's a reason why the mainstream media has given this film a'lot of emphasis. It's films like this that are purposely released and given a'lot of attention, then disproved in order to make the 9/11 truth movement look bad to the general public.



yeah good fucking point, that REALLY pisses me off, i saw a programme on TV about 9/11 that they were gonna look at the other side of things, but they just spent the whole time looking at BS pieces of non evidence and talking to the guy who did the official "investigation" into like there word was bible when we all know they are frauds too and werent independant

verbalkent
04-03-2006, 02:56 PM
loose change is the shit and snapple is full of it

sad we did that shit to ourselves.

the end

TRONIX
04-21-2006, 04:10 AM
Maybe you can point out the Boeing in the footage the Department of Defence released to the public.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/pentanimxox2.gif

As you see there is not a trace of a Boeing in this footage. Why do people believe there government when they see with there own eyes that there aint a Boeing in ther footage.

The government also told you that WTC 7 collapsed from a fire which would be the the third steel structure in history to collapse from a fire the first 2 building being WTC 1 & 2.

http://www.team-terror.net/mike/wtc-7.gif

As you can see, it is a controlled demolition not a building collapsing from a fire. Pretty blatant evidence.

Loose Change delivers facts which cannot be denied. Only those that deny those facts are in denial.

TeknicelStylez
04-21-2006, 05:17 AM
somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high)

Wtf kind of 757's you be examining?

MoT
04-21-2006, 05:21 AM
There's also multiple eye witnesses say they seen a military style jet zoom away shortly after the explosion. Why was the surveillance footage from the gas station collected by the government? Why are there missing scenes from the Pentagon's camera footage they released?

xactly ... man ATS is probably state sponsored so fuck their "investigations" ... watch loose change 2nd edition and you'll be talking something else SNAPPLE ...

Ċrcane
04-21-2006, 08:53 AM
The Loose change video is pretty good but you dont need it to know that the government is lying to you.
Come on, read the history of the country, a bunch of conservative right wing racist politicians, and you expect me to believe them?
Planes hit the WTC. But there were also bombs inside.
NO PLANE hit the Pentagon, PERIOD.

that simple. fuck donald rumsfeld.

Arc

brown_dogg
04-21-2006, 08:57 PM
you all should watch this video:
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php

there's also some cool stuff on:
http://911review.org/brad.com/swallowplane.html
http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/

soul controller
04-22-2006, 06:27 AM
lol this thread is funny!!

soul controller
04-22-2006, 07:04 AM
Former German Minister Says Building 7 Used To Run 9/11 Attack
Guide the planes in, then destroy the crime scene
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 21 2006 (http://prisonplanet.com/index.html)
Former Helmut Schmidt cabinet member, 25-year German Parliamentarian and global intelligence expert Andreas Von Bülow says that the 9/11 attack was run by the highest levels of the US intelligence apparatus using WTC Building 7 as a command bunker which was later demolished in order to destroy the crime scene.
Speaking to The Alex Jones Show on the GCN Radio Network, Von Bülow said that "the official story is so wrong, it must be an inside job."
Von Bülow discussed the special software programs that allow the CIA to track suspicious stock market movements in real time. Record put options placed on United and American Airlines (http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html)in the week before 9/11, a speculation that the stock would crash, clearly indicated inside foreknowledge of the impending attack.
"If the stock market has very strange movements immediately they take care of this and they had a lot of tapes and the lawyers told the people destroy these tapes."
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"The Bush administration is in a deep defensive [mode] and probably they would like to come out with a new offensive," said Von Bülow as he considered whether a new staged false flag terror attack could be launched to further an interventionist agenda.
"I would hope that one 'new Pearl Harbor' is enough," said Von Bülow, "but I cannot be sure."
http://prisonplanet.com/images/april2006/210406wtc.jpg
Von Bülow commented on the disputed identities (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm) of the named hijackers.
"The names of these nineteen [hijackers] never came up in the official passenger list, until now there's no proof they were on the planes."
Von Bülow also pointed out how the alleged hijacker's flight instructors told investigators (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html) that they couldn't even fly Cessna's, never mind complex large commercial airliners.
Von Bülow also touched upon the implausible collapse (http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html) of the buildings.
"The towers came down in the velocity of free fall which is totally impossible, they fall down in 8, 9, or 10 seconds, the pancake theory is ridiculous," he said.
Von Bülow also highlighted the fact that there were 67 successful intercepts of errant aircraft in the year of 2001 before 9/11 and yet four planes were allowed to veer wildly off course without any being intercepted on that one day.
Rudolph Giuliani opened a $13 million emergency Command Center (pictured) on the 23rd floor of World Trade Center Building 7 in June 1999 in part to respond to and manage terrorist attacks.
http://prisonplanet.com/images/april2006/210406bunker.jpg
Von Bülow referenced the command bunker in Building 7, calling it the "optimal place" to run the attacks using remote control technology to guide the planes in and then destroying the crime scene by imploding the building.
"There were two procedures, one was flying in the aircraft the second was the explosions," he said.
When asked precisely which parties carried out the attack Von Bülow said it must have been a "very small group" within the CIA with the help of Saudi Arabian and Pakistani secret service intelligence.
Von Bülow outlined his view that one reason for the execution of 9/11 was to provide the justification for US military bases in the near and Middle East to be built in anticipation for a future confrontation with China, whom the Neo-Cons believe have grown too powerful and need to have their geopolitical wings clipped.
Click here (http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/200406vonbuelow.htm) to listen to Von Bülow's interview.

Longbongcilvaringz
04-22-2006, 07:50 AM
i kind of find this shit interesting, but in any of these theories people tend to exclude crucial occurences and facts. interesting anyway.

Vegan
04-22-2006, 01:39 PM
loose change is the shit and snapple is full of it

sad we did that shit to ourselves.

the end

Right on. My thoughts exactly.

TRONIX
04-24-2006, 04:10 AM
i kind of find this shit interesting, but in any of these theories people tend to exclude crucial occurences and facts. interesting anyway.

Maybe you can be specific about the crucial occurences and facts.

What makes you skeptical?

The _laughing_man
05-03-2006, 04:20 PM
I find it hard to believe that 2 110 stories buidling freefall and pulverize into dust + i still can't undertstand how you can make dna tests on the remains of the passenger sof a plane that vaporized after headbutting the pentagon... I am not going to speak about building 7 or about FEMA ready for operation in NY on the 10th of September, also I assume that if you speak about this subject you already know everything about northwood and gladio so i wont comment on that either.


... check the sound coming out of hiphopistan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTbtSTO78Xs)

HANZO
05-03-2006, 04:41 PM
im surprised that the twin towers actually fell, i was expecting that the tops will fall off, but both buildings crashed down like it was a controlled demolision. Like the bottom of the buildings were filled with explosives because to me the buildings didnt collapse from the pressure of the blast but there wasnt sufficient force on the steel columns to support the top of the building. Now you wouldnt design a building like that and not think about thats. There is a high possibility that they either blew up the buildings or they could have weakeaned it so that such an impact can make it fall down. And with building 7 i have no idea how that would fall down, thats jus a mystery it doesnt make sense on how that would fall down without being bombed, i do physics and i say that that building cannot fall because of the heat they are too well designed for that. All these lead me to believe that the buildings falling were definetly controlled theres no other way they could have fallen like that. there was a video of bin laden saying that even he didnt expect the whole buildings to collapse.

Machete
05-03-2006, 07:32 PM
WTC 7 was the command center for the attacks. What better way to destroy the evidence than to......destroy the evidence.

THE W
05-03-2006, 10:28 PM
WTC 7 was the command center for the attacks. What better way to destroy the evidence than to......destroy the evidence.
lol, nice dude

yeah the firedamage thing just doesnt add up for me. those planes hit the top of the bullding and the bottom half wasnt touched. at the most the buildings should have toppled over, not imploded.

Machete
05-07-2006, 08:37 PM
lol, nice dude

yeah the firedamage thing just doesnt add up for me. those planes hit the top of the bullding and the bottom half wasnt touched. at the most the buildings should have toppled over, not imploded.
You are right. I seen the video of the architect who freakin designed the buildings. He had in mind the possibility of a commercial aircraft hitting the buildings. A good analogy he used was, "picture sticking a pencil into a spider web". It makes a hole, but the web doesn't completely fall down. That is how the buildings were constructed.

And of course, dude died in the attacks. Conveinent or strange coincidence?

Frontal Lobotomy
05-08-2006, 03:45 AM
Crazy shit. Nice thread though, some interesting opinions. I'm a tad sceptical about the Pentagon, I must say. Chances are they hit the building with military aircraft and used the whole plane smokescreen to help cover up whatever happened in the towers. The way the towers fell, and how these allaged terrorist aircraft weren't intercepted has never quite added up for me, much like the rest of you. The theory on China makes reasonable sense from a tactical point of view, but I'd say the Chinese will roll on through regardless, they got North Korea sneakily in their back pockets giving them a whole load of secret commie weaponary, and manpower between them. Another forseeable problem will be Britain getting the hell out of the middle east by the time Bush leaves office. The one thing i'm expecting when that dude's out of the picture, is another big piece of the 9/11 puzzle to fall into our laps. There was probably a whole lot of files containing intelligence, secret projects and financial anomalies that went up in smoke with those buildings, after all. Something has to get through, besides half-baked conspiracy theories.

Kephrem
05-08-2006, 10:16 AM
Von Bülow outlined his view that one reason for the execution of 9/11 was to provide the justification for US military bases in the near and Middle East to be built in anticipation for a future confrontation with China, whom the Neo-Cons believe have grown too powerful and need to have their geopolitical wings clipped.


Alot of people who know of the U.S.'s motives behind the 9-11 incident still havn't come to this realization, they still think it's all about oil, or Muslim and so-called Third Word alleged population expolsions, when the whole shit is about keeping CHINA in check.

soul controller
05-08-2006, 11:23 AM
yoo
i need help from people who lived in the vicinity of the towers

do you know any peoples who suffer from breathing problems after 911?
let me know please,
as ive read a few reports,, but i dont trust the sources.

the towers was basically condemned due to the high use of asbestos used in the buildings .it would have taken a HUGE amount of $$$'s to get rid of the asbestos and to treat the surrounding area of asbestos pollution..

blowing the fuckers up, was the easiest and most cost effect way ( not to mention wars/oil/controlling the population) get rid of the building with tout being blocked by the red tape

soo how many ppl suffer from breathing defects since 911

i wanna know!
peace

MsRzaRecTaH
05-08-2006, 11:39 AM
I Had A Friend That I Havent Heard From In A While Who Lived A Few Blocks Away From When That Happened..
Last I Heard He Wanted To Put Himself In A Mental Hospital Because He Kept Hearing Bombs In His Dreams.. I Know The Last Time I Talked To Him He Wasnt Doing All That Great.. And Now Im Worried But I Know He Told Me He Was Getting Sick As Far As The Respiratory System Goes... He Was Already Suffering From Asthma... (spelling?)