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LHX
04-12-2006, 03:42 PM
continued from the 'objective' thread

what prevents knowledge from being spread from person to person?
brain to brain?

Visionz
04-12-2006, 03:44 PM
agreeing on what is knowledge itself,



&getting others to accept knowledge that they find discomforting.

Prince Rai
04-12-2006, 03:48 PM
agreeing on what is knowledge itself,



&getting others to accept knowledge that they find discomforting.

yess!

accepting knwoledge is the big obstacle.

we agree that knowledge is truth. and truth when exposed can be ver4y hard to take.

thus patience is required.

is patience accompanied by full hearted acceptance a remedy to obstacle?

Aqua Luna
04-12-2006, 03:51 PM
continued from the 'objective' thread

what prevents knowledge from being spread from person to person?
brain to brain?

I would agree with what Eric said....

and also it's the illusions that stop us from recognizing what's real.

The illusions are so massive.

It's like everytime you learn something new -

no matter how inconsequential it may seem at the time...

in order to really process new info, you have to forget everything else you think you know for a minute.

and that is a scary thing to do, for some.

Prince Rai
04-12-2006, 03:56 PM
that true.

perhaps a limitaion are our senses.

our sense have flaws undoubtly.

thus some of the knowledge we take in, may be blemished.

will this be a downfall? or a minor cloud that may pass by?

LHX
04-12-2006, 04:00 PM
some understandings require a person to take action

and some of these actions are not enjoyable



thats probly the most difficult thing i have coming to terms with

there is a sense of finality behind some actions
and when youre in the thick of it
there aint nothing sweet about it



for a lot of people
they hesitate to spread knowledge because they know this society will punish them for it

Visionz
04-12-2006, 04:01 PM
I agree that knowledge is truth but what is truth? there are things that I accept as truth that arent accepted by others and vice versa. Maybe we should stick to strictly human endeavors when dealing with what is and isn't truth.

Aqua Luna
04-12-2006, 04:02 PM
that true.

perhaps a limitaion are our senses.

our sense have flaws undoubtly.

thus some of the knowledge we take in, may be blemished.

will this be a downfall? or a minor cloud that may pass by?

hmmm...I think it's a natural defense mechanism

It reminds me of the saying - "When the student is ready the teacher will appear".

Also, some people reverse that quote and say - "When the teacher is ready the student will appear."

We as a collective are ready...But, like you were saying about the senses, they make us ask ourselves - Is it safe, yet?

Now, this reminds me of LHX...and his point about people being afraid of death.

Prince Rai
04-12-2006, 04:03 PM
different knowledge and how it is absorbed constitutes different truths perhaps.

Visionz
04-12-2006, 04:04 PM
for a lot of people
they hesitate to spread knowledge because they know this society will punish them for it Indeed, I desire to be much more vocal about 9/11 but at the same time I realize that the CIA might kill me for it. If no one else depended on me this wouldn't worry me so much

Prince Rai
04-12-2006, 04:07 PM
truth i think, is something that goes beyond human understanding.

we say earth is flat, and it was unanimously agreed upon until science gave way to more light to the matter.

filtering knowldge will give us the best truth, knowldge, that we can use to convert to wisdom, understanding.

Aqua Luna
04-12-2006, 04:07 PM
I agree that knowledge is truth but what is truth? there are things that I accept as truth that arent accepted by others and vice versa. Maybe we should stick to strictly human endeavors when dealing with what is and isn't truth.

Truth is what can be proven.

So, what is proof?

Math is proof...I have come to see that all truth can be proven mathematically.

However, this is not a very popular idea....

Prince Rai
04-12-2006, 04:08 PM
Indeed, I desire to be much more vocal about 9/11 but at the same time I realize that the CIA might kill me for it. If no one else depended on me this wouldn't worry me so much

i feel u, i also watched 9/11 revisited, the thing is, the people are silenced.

knwowldge is limited by governmental bodies?

Visionz
04-12-2006, 04:28 PM
Truth is what can be proven.

So, what is proof?

Math is proof...I have come to see that all truth can be proven mathematically.

However, this is not a very popular idea.... I think the idea is a good one. 1+1=2, that's universally true and impossible to reasonably dispute. So math to me, seems to be a good starting point.

Visionz
04-12-2006, 04:29 PM
i feel u, i also watched 9/11 revisited, the thing is, the people are silenced.

knwowldge is limited by governmental bodies? Was the video new info for you? And if so, what was your reaction?

dif de la rev
04-12-2006, 10:35 PM
the presentation.

you come at them funny or wrong that will automaticly dismiss you.

making it political.

knowledge is about facts. not the partisan split.

a proven method of dissemination.

audio, video and writen which has most effectiveness?

are the obstacles like locks in a dam? an organized way of spreading or a control method, so that the awakening is gradual as opposed to spontaneous? get their mind right before shocking with light.

Claustrofobic
04-13-2006, 10:45 AM
Bravery

LHX
04-13-2006, 11:03 AM
truth i think, is something that goes beyond human understanding.

we say earth is flat, and it was unanimously agreed upon until science gave way to more light to the matter.

filtering knowldge will give us the best truth, knowldge, that we can use to convert to wisdom, understanding.

so now that we know that
maybe it would be wise for us not to be so difinitive about certain things

using the word 'maybe' before some statements
using the word 'seems' instead of 'is'


'the earth seems flat'
'maybe the earth is round'

galt john galt
04-13-2006, 01:46 PM
pertinance, since new things are learned at a much faster pace. making it timely to act on.

LHX
04-13-2006, 01:48 PM
pertinance, since new things are learned at a much faster pace. making it timely to act on.

what?

Prince Rai
04-13-2006, 02:25 PM
so now that we know that
maybe it would be wise for us not to be so difinitive about certain things

using the word 'maybe' before some statements
using the word 'seems' instead of 'is'


'the earth seems flat'
'maybe the earth is round'

that is true LHX!

we once discussed about the implications that words cause, as they do not always reflect the entire picture of the circumstance the word is trying to convey.


however, if we must be careful in how we drop forward our thoughts, can anything we ever say be really truthful on the outset?

if we cannot teach something that is only "seemingly" and "maybe" is there point to pursure such naked "knowledge"?

LHX
04-13-2006, 02:30 PM
that is true LHX!

we once discussed about the implications that words cause, as they do not always reflect the entire picture of the circumstance the word is trying to convey.


however, if we must be careful in how we drop forward our thoughts, can anything we ever say be really truthful on the outset?

if we cannot teach something that is only "seemingly" and "maybe" is there point to pursure such naked "knowledge"?

peace bro

this is a beautiful add on




check this out - i am gonna try and word this carefully

perhaps it is not possible to speak the truth
but
words can come from a foundation of truth

and these words
once spoken
can be agreed upon by a person who has a similar foundation
or
can help guide a person to determine a foundation of truth for themselves



maybe i can not speak the truth
but
i know what truth is
and i can act upon it

Aqua Luna
04-13-2006, 02:33 PM
Yess!!...nice post, LHX.

LHX
04-13-2006, 02:37 PM
http://poee.co.uk/boards/images/smiles/exploding-head.gif<--------------LHX

Aqua Luna
04-13-2006, 02:39 PM
lmao...haaha. I feel you, no doubt!

galt john galt
04-13-2006, 02:42 PM
by pertinence, appropriate to the person. not all people can/will recieve the same as next at that time.

LHX
04-13-2006, 02:48 PM
by pertinence, appropriate to the person. not all people can/will recieve the same as next at that time.

i agree

Prince Rai
04-13-2006, 02:57 PM
peace bro

this is a beautiful add on




check this out - i am gonna try and word this carefully

perhaps it is not possible to speak the truth
but
words can come from a foundation of truth

and these words
once spoken
can be agreed upon by a person who has a similar foundation
or
can help guide a person to determine a foundation of truth for themselves



maybe i can not speak the truth
but
i know what truth is
and i can act upon it

haha thats the beginning of a movement LHX!!

dats common ground im seing.

all KTL heads down with common ground shall link up :P

LHX
04-13-2006, 03:11 PM
haha thats the beginning of a movement LHX!!

dats common ground im seing.

all KTL heads down with common ground shall link up :P

thats exactly what i was thinkin

and it only took 6000 years

Prince Rai
04-13-2006, 03:16 PM
LOL

well foundations are hard to set. :P apparently

we with u for a movement.

LHX
04-13-2006, 03:20 PM
hahahaaaaaaa

2 vs 6 000 000 000

i guess it starts small

maestro wooz
04-13-2006, 03:21 PM
http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/29/reno.waco/texas.waco.lg.jpg
10 years

Prince Rai
04-13-2006, 03:28 PM
hahahaaaaaaa

2 vs 6 000 000 000

i guess it starts small

it starts with first step.

LHX
04-13-2006, 03:52 PM
http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/29/reno.waco/texas.waco.lg.jpg
10 years

dont worry wooz

we will save a spot for you

Aqua Luna
04-13-2006, 04:07 PM
Geez...must I always play the bad guy??

I wonder if anyone can tell what's wrong with this picture?

galt john galt
04-13-2006, 04:15 PM
it says 1992 then ten years. that's four years ago.
is it suppose to be aboiut the coastline or the waco fiasco?

LHX
04-13-2006, 04:20 PM
Geez...must I always play the bad guy??

I wonder if anyone can tell what's wrong with this picture?

its so obvious
i cant even be bothered to comment on it anymore

Aqueous Moon
04-15-2006, 01:33 AM
Yeah...it's so obvious, it's invisible.

galt john galt
04-15-2006, 01:57 AM
making the knowledge tantalizing. they run from brussel sprouts lima beans and okra to hamburgers fried mozarella and caffinated cola. they will consume yet how to get them to eat and not nibble?

Aqueous Moon
04-15-2006, 02:06 AM
Show them how malnuturished they are.

Be the mirror that reflects their ignorance...and shows them what's real.

Soul Controller
04-15-2006, 07:37 AM
known obstacles to spreading knowledge

ignorance
ridicule
people with firm held beliefs get angry at u
no matter how much u try and show them, in various ways,
how what they hold as true, is FALSE


but the biggest obstacle is.

ego, as those conditioned to society and this world
will refuse to believe they was/are STUPID enough
to believe what they have been force fed/told


peace

LHX
04-15-2006, 09:44 AM
Show them how malnuturished they are.

Be the mirror that reflects their ignorance...and shows them what's real.

for many people
this would be suicide

maestro wooz
04-15-2006, 03:32 PM
it says 1992 then ten years. that's four years ago.
is it suppose to be aboiut the coastline or the waco fiasco?


lhx is the next david koresh

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
04-15-2006, 04:11 PM
The Media = Disinformation Brain washing and complacency biggest threat to knowledge

HANZO
04-15-2006, 05:45 PM
the main obsticle of knowledge is ignorance, its hard to spread knowledge because there are too many ignorant people on this planet.

Right.
05-14-2006, 10:55 PM
I don't know what this is but I'm watching you all.

Right.
05-14-2006, 11:12 PM
Loco teachers.. If I'm getting headache then I know enough. I read too much wrong information here.

Wayyyy too much.

Frontal Lobotomy
05-14-2006, 11:22 PM
Interpretation of truth is always a tough cookie, in that it goes hand in hand with ignorance. The truth will always be the truth, no matter what way people look at it, but for the majority, the truth is spectral, and they are colourblind. They need such truths in black & white for them to see it.

LHX
05-15-2006, 12:20 AM
lhx is the next david koresh

wooz is the next convert

denaturat
05-15-2006, 12:22 AM
continued from the 'objective' thread

what prevents knowledge from being spread from person to person?
brain to brain?

beat....a good beat...if you don't have a good beat, they won't play it on the radio....:nonono:

Aqueous Moon
05-15-2006, 12:57 AM
The known obstacles are egos.

Egos irk me.

Right.
05-15-2006, 01:05 AM
If you don't know what you're talking about then you need to shut up.

Aqueous Moon
05-15-2006, 01:07 AM
right and right

Right.
05-15-2006, 01:12 AM
Glad we agree on that. Otherwise you get confusion and that is not good.

denaturat
05-15-2006, 01:16 AM
lack of education

Right.
05-15-2006, 01:19 AM
Lack of just saying things and believe everything and don't have your own mind.

Sicka than aidZ
05-15-2006, 01:41 AM
there's so many peeps that are full of shit its hard to believe anything someone says. I think we were born and from then on our superhuman(i said that cuz we got mojo, mind over matter, some shit) animal feelings slowly faded and we grow less and less intelligent until we die. Has to do with fear and kind of what aqua said about clearing what u think u know to see the truth

Right.
05-15-2006, 01:42 AM
I don't like it when they turn my words around either.

Sicka than aidZ
05-15-2006, 01:44 AM
Lack of just saying things and believe everything and don't have your own mind.

Yeah, unless your a time traveler, you'll never truly know whats gone down in history cuz u werent there. I think alot of cats on this forum overlook that possibilty. I mean some things could be true, but backing up every negative actions that were carried out in the past is close minded.

Visionz
05-15-2006, 01:50 AM
^I'm personally on the side of what shoulda happened vs what did happen. We, as humans, have not been very productive insofar as what is good for the whole. We execute things day to day in a very selfish manner.

Sicka than aidZ
05-15-2006, 02:11 AM
good for u , i shouldnt have brought up KTL's past, unless it was to post what should have happened and not what happens.

LHX
05-15-2006, 10:05 AM
egos
lies
tricks
ignorance

all related

we get wiser by identifying these things and how to approach them

Soul Controller
05-15-2006, 12:45 PM
what ktl past did u bring up?
where u jack other pplz topics and use them as ur own! lol

nah really, old ktl had so much knowledge and fact,
that was backed up with even more hardwork by its writers,

now its just dibs and dabs.. when u begin a topic or a convo.
the understanding isnt their to take it to the higher level

i wish i had sickers time machine

BLACKNEFERTITI07
05-15-2006, 12:47 PM
JEALOUSY
ENVY
GREED
IGNORANCE
LIES
DECEIT
EGOS

LHX
05-15-2006, 12:51 PM
what ktl past did u bring up?
where u jack other pplz topics and use them as ur own! lol

nah really, old ktl had so much knowledge and fact,
that was backed up with even more hardwork by its writers,

now its just dibs and dabs.. when u begin a topic or a convo.
the understanding isnt their to take it to the higher level

i wish i had sickers time machine

shit was hot about 2 months ago



back in the day we also fell victim to being long-winded

arguing about dates and names and faces in history



there was more heads postin back then tho

Soul Controller
05-15-2006, 01:30 PM
yes 2-3 months ago it was cool,

but so many topics sprout up,
people like goddess cant be controlled
it just well.. its liek u wanna build in peace and in a nice enviroment..


anywho.
im gettin on pretty well with that topic. i mentioned.. should be ready to go this weekend


peace

Right.
05-15-2006, 01:55 PM
You can't controll me no I'm not a robot I'm my own boss. Everyone should be their own boss.

Soul Controller
05-15-2006, 02:00 PM
we are all our own bosses.
that is not disputed
what is., that their are rules..
know the ledge is called such for a reason

their are 1000+ threads u can post retarted shit in, in gen chat

Right.
05-15-2006, 02:01 PM
You're not my dad I don't have to listen to you.

Right.
05-15-2006, 02:11 PM
Those strangers are most of the time wrong anyway... Do you think I'm gonna listen to that?

Right.
05-15-2006, 02:30 PM
And against women I say it 2, you're not my mother.

LHX
05-15-2006, 04:20 PM
haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaa


too much

Edgar Erebus
05-15-2006, 04:38 PM
The main obstacle.... Bunch of fat, white, rich people sitting in their large cribs and working on the highest floor of Wall Street buildings, who make profite on dumbness of uneducated people. Destroy them, and you'll become exactly the same as them.