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$inista
05-16-2006, 11:24 AM
http://www.abolishthenword.com (http://www.abolishthenword.com/)

This may be disturbing to some! SO BE PREPARED....REALLY

Think about the times you have used the 'N' word as a term of endearment.....

I doubt from the looks of these photos when it was used on them they meant.....my brother, homie, friend or homegirl.

this was passed on to me so I figured I pass it on to yal, woder what's yal take on this

I know there are some Ignorant mutha fuckas out there, please be respectful

denaturat
05-16-2006, 12:01 PM
not sure how to repond to this...what a tragedy. how shameful that human beings treat other human beings in such way. thanks for sharing this...the "N" word is truly the ugliest word I know.



http://www.tuc.org.uk/equality/tuc_2342_b_files/image004.jpg

Edgar Erebus
05-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Nothing new. Hate is something usual, I know when I heard calling me "Fucking Ustasha", "Dirty Bosniak", "Shitty Croat" when I moved to a neighboring country... I got used to it. I only erase when they paint U or swastika on my school closet

TAURO
05-16-2006, 04:38 PM
I hate hearing latinos use that word, it don't seem right to me. I don't care if they grew up in the same hoods theres no excuse, black people should not be using it and white people for definite should not be using it, kids now a days throw that word about without realising it's true destructive power.
If someone came up to me and called me a spic I would put them in their place, we need to school the kids of today so that we can make sure that those types of words die out, but it is gonna take a lot of work and restructure.

BLACKNEFERTITI07
05-16-2006, 04:47 PM
USING THE "N" WORD IRKS MY NERVES EVERYDAY!!!!! II HEAR THAT WORD EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN I'M IN SCHOOL, OUT ON THE STREETS WITH MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY,ETC. I WASN'T BORN BY THAT NAME AND NEITHER WAS MY ANCESTORS, MY PARENTS OR MY BROTHER. I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP USING THE "N" WORD IN GENERAL AND STOP USING THE "B" WORD 2!!!! CUZ I WASN'T RAISED WITH FOUR LEGS AND A TAIL. I WAS BORN WIT ONE HEAD, 2 ARMS 2 LEGS , 2 FEET, 2 EYES, 2 EARS, ONE MOUTH, ONE NOSE WITH 2 NOSTRILS ONE BODY AND ONE BIG BEATING RED HEART!!!!!

BLACKNEFERTITI07
05-16-2006, 04:59 PM
big titties? big ass?

HUH SUNSHINE?? i'm confused,lol

White_Mouse
05-16-2006, 05:00 PM
man where i live now white people say it, adn it really pisses me off.

JASPER
05-16-2006, 05:46 PM
I hate it when people talk about nuggets. Nuggets. Christ.

ShaDynasty
05-16-2006, 06:03 PM
and Q-Tip tried to stop the use of the "N" word over a decade ago
infact ima listen to 'sucka nigga' right now

INF
05-16-2006, 06:20 PM
Okay, this is all very true and vital. However, aren't we all logged into a site where the artist that it reps use this word in a casual manor? I always wonder about that. My pops told me last year to not use it because I am a smart young man an not that(a nigga). I was talking to him about something or the other and I guess he felt it was an important time to tell me due to the discussion we were having. He never raised me that way but thats not to say that I didnt ever here him say it though. I grew up all in this misconception though and ,yes, it gets hard to break for some. You wont catch me using it much but I aint gonna lie like it hasnt been in my vocab and families vocab since idk. Breaking habits that you are grown into is quite a challange indeed. I love livin life(challange) though. It would be nice to see artist kick in with the change as well though since they do reach the public better than the public reaching the public.

Guess I'll put it this way, and I'll admitt its opinion, if you dont wanna get down like that no more then throw out at and ignore at least 45 percent of your hip-hop collection.I'm Serious though. How else we gonna change if we steady embrace what we hate? And I'm being respectful to my love(hip-hop) by sayin that 45%.


One.

MaShPG
05-16-2006, 06:32 PM
That was a weird rendition of Strange Fruit...anyways, I agree. And to the first person that comes in here mentioning it stands for "Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished", I've only heard real ignorant people use the word nigga. I personally, although I admit I do (i'm trying to cut down on it) think all curse words are pointless. The english language has so many other terms for endearment, why should we use one that was once used with hate? Anyways, good topic....cracker.

ěDESSA
05-16-2006, 06:33 PM
You should not use that word if you're white it irritates me.

Professor Poopsnagle
05-16-2006, 06:44 PM
i think even black ppl shouldnt use it. seriously.

i know ppl who simply repeat what rappers say. they dont mean it seriously but that doesnt make it better.

INF
05-16-2006, 06:46 PM
You should not use that word if you're white it irritates me.


Its just as bad if you are black as well. No need to explain why.

One.

Klawful
05-16-2006, 06:50 PM
Words and their menaings evolve and Please forgive me for using these terms but "Nigger" was the original word and was derogatory (however you may spell it) and it seems to me that the black community a while back decided to appropriate the word for themselves, changed the spelling and the meaning behind it. It isn't the same word anymore in spelling or meaning or even the intention behind speaking it. If somebody wants to use it as an acronym thats positive then thats their choice, It's turning a bad thing around to good.
It is not the same word any more.

Aqueous Moon
05-16-2006, 06:51 PM
^^^ Co sign!

MaShPG
05-16-2006, 07:06 PM
Words and their menaings evolve and Please forgive me for using these terms but "Nigger" was the original word and was derogatory (however you may spell it) and it seems to me that the black community a while back decided to appropriate the word for themselves, changed the spelling and the meaning behind it. It isn't the same word anymore in spelling or meaning or even the intention behind speaking it. If somebody wants to use it as an acronym thats positive then thats their choice, It's turning a bad thing around to good.
It is not the same word any more.

if so, then how come a white boy can't call his friends niggaz? and why do crackers still say niggers/niggaz in a derogatory way. i bet you all those crackers are laughing their asses off in heaven right now "lmao....they're actually using the word." what's the point of using the word? The meaning has barely changed.

Aqueous Moon
05-16-2006, 07:20 PM
I just don't see why people think that nigga and nigger is the same word.

They clearly have two different meanings. Although, I don't use it often because of how some people feel about it.

But, personally...I think a lot of it has to do with the tone and the environment that your in when you do use it.

And, of course...weather or not you're Black.

Klawful
05-16-2006, 07:33 PM
if so, then how come a white boy can't call his friends niggaz? and why do crackers still say niggers/niggaz in a derogatory way.... what's the point of using the word? The meaning has barely changed.


A white boy as such Like me can call his/my friend(s) niggaz but it really doesnt mean anything or mean that you/I would be correct to do so.

Like all words there are correct and incorrect usages.

Such as it is in a greeting between members of the African-American community eg. "Whats up my nigga" ( please excuse the stereotype )

I am in no way saying that it is right that a word be singular to a particular race of people or its decendants.
But they (the African-Americans) have faced certain trials in trying to come up in a White dominated society.

There can be no hurt in allowing them to have the word because they changed/made it for their own purpose.

And truly anything can be made to sound derogatory/insulting by the inflection behind the word.
You can be derogatorey towards a person of jewish heratige by the inflection that you put on Jew or a christian, a follower of islam, an Asian.

TAURO
05-16-2006, 09:00 PM
No white person has the right to say Nigga I don't care if it's not mean't in a derogatory way. Black people changed it's spelling and it's meaning to try and take away some of the power that whites had over it and in turn reducing it's impact.
While I don't condone it's usage even among black people they at least can use it amongst themselves because it remains within their circle.

brown_dogg
05-16-2006, 09:04 PM
Black people changed it's spelling and it's meaning to try and take away some of the power that whites had over it and in turn reducing it's impact.

Changing it's spelling and meaning still doesn't take away from the connotations of the word. Take, for example, the Neo-Nazis. They changed the name, and the ideology, but the fact that they're still Nazis brings about some negative connotations. Same with the "N" word. Changing the spelling doesn't get rid of the connotations.

TAURO
05-16-2006, 09:24 PM
I agree, but the N word has been lessened to a degree because of it's common use in society, it almost seems to have been split into two and Nigga has become the non offensive term amongst many people.
I do disagree with your nazi example because they did not change it's spelling, the just added neo in the beginning, Neo meaning post war era.

Klawful
05-16-2006, 09:31 PM
for Tauro da grim latin

And I didn't say that a white person has the right to say it.
But it is still a word and I was making a point of the fact that with it being a word that anybody can say it, and believe me they can, it's called reading or listening then speaking, it's really a simple process.


and for Brown dogg
Although it may be true that you can not take away some of the associations implied by the word "Nigga" it is not "Nigger"
It is a different word, with similar spelling and pronunciation that is still related to the original like how you are related to you mother but are not her, you are a seperate individual that has its own purpose.

Big Risk
05-16-2006, 09:34 PM
its just a word. quit your bitchin.

TeknicelStylez
05-16-2006, 10:53 PM
I said it once I'm going to say it again. I say nigga often and I will continue to say nigga often.

If you are poor or live in the hood (A REAL bad area) you are a Nigger. We identify eachother as niggas, he a real NIGGA thats a person thats on his grind. Somebody who ain't live in that situation wouldn't understand the use of that term. I've been in the heart of the beast before, I've been in jail before, and I still ain't switch up my vocabulary. I AM A NIGGER, always have been, governments been steppin on mine and my families head since day 1.

Aqueous Moon
05-16-2006, 11:17 PM
Damn, Tek!

I feel you!

Word.

TeknicelStylez
05-17-2006, 12:16 AM
No doubt I'm not saying we should permanently call eachother nigga, but call a cat when you see a cat. If you in that grind, than you a nigger just like everyone else. When you out of that grind, thats when you drop all that.

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 06:43 AM
hmmm, this is an interesting post. When you truly think about the perception of what the word's intended meaning is today it really takes alot out of the struggle our ancestors faced during trying times. They is no doubt in my mind that if my grandma who was 104 at the time of her death (1896 - 2000) would have been surely called a nigger and would probably have had to use separate stalls and other such insults that dark skin people had to face had she not grown up in Puerto Rico. There is also no doubt in my head that my mother whose skin has the same rich tone as my grandmother would have gone through the same thing. (tauro da grim - thats one to grow on) I've seen so many films on how "YOUR" ancestors were treated and to hear the justification of the word and HOW its used today make me smh. Could you imagine what these souls who died for their right are thinking. Please if your going to use the word don't try to justify it. I have to say I am shocked at people even trying to soothe the use of the N word. You know how many people died violently just so they wouldn't be called "Nigger"? THATS JUST WRONG.

To me I think this is a valid campaign. Nigger mean ignorant not a person who grew up poor. Because no matter how poor you are you mind is always capable of being rich. Get out of that paradox.

TeknicelStylez
05-17-2006, 07:37 AM
I disagree, you know I use the word frequently.

My family suffered just as much as any of them, Cuban political prisons, racism, the whole nine. I chill with old black people that was alive during those times and they use the word nigga, true story.

BLACKNEFERTITI07
05-17-2006, 08:11 AM
AS A BLACK WOMAN, I DON'T USE THE "N" WORD AT ALL. I HATE THAT WORD WIT A TRU PASSION. THAT WORD JUS REALLY IRKS MY NERVES 2 DA FULLEST AND I JUS WISH THAT EVERY PERSON, MALE&FEMALE, BLACK&WHITE, WOULD STOP USING THE "N" WORD. YES THERE ARE FEMALES THAT SAY THAT WORD 2 SO IT'S NOT JUS MALES THAT ARE USING THE WORD 2.


I HEAR THAT WORD CONSTANTLY EVERYDAY WHEN I COME HOME FROM SCHOOL AND WAIT FOR THE BUS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE COUNTED ON MY FINGERS BASED ON HEARING THAT WORD LET ALONE HEARING THE "B" WORD 2. I'M A RESPECTED BLACK WOMAN THAT DESERVES TO BE CALLED BY HER GOVERMENT NAME, NOT BY A NAME THAT DEGRADES ME AS A WOMAN. AND WHEN YOU CALL ME THE "B" WORD, YOU'RE NOT ONLY DISRESPECTING ME, YOUR'RE DISRESPECTING THE WOMAN WHO CARRIED YOU FOR NINE MONTHS AND GAVE YOU YOUR FIRST NAME AND THAT IS YOUR MOTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLUS YOU'RE DISRESPECTING YOUR SISTER, AUNT, GRANDMOTHER, YOUR FEMALE COUSINS, NIECES, ETC.

THE ONLY WORD THAT I USED WAS THE "B" WORD WHEN I WAS IN THE SEVENTH GRADE AND GOT INTO A FIGHT WIT A GYRL THAT WAS JEALOUS OF ME AND I DIDN'T GET MY BUTT WHUPPED CUZ MY BIRTHDAY WAS COMING UP AND MY FOLKS WERE GIVIN ME A PARTY. I LEARNED THAT I WOULDN'T USE THAT WORD EVER AGAIN.

SO I BELIEVE THAT BOTH THE "N" WORD AND THE "B" WORD SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT THE ENGLISH DICTIONARY PERMANENTLY AND NOT 2 BE USED IN EVERYDAY LINGO OR IN VIDEOS CUZ NOONE IS THE "N" WORD OR THE "B" WORD.

AND I DON'T WANT MY CHILDREN 2 BE CALLED THOSE NAMES CUZ THEY ARE VERY VILE AND FOUL!!!!!!!

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 08:20 AM
I disagree, you know I use the word frequently.

My family suffered just as much as any of them, Cuban political prisons, racism, the whole nine. I chill with old black people that was alive during those times and they use the word nigga, true story.


wtf? if they are alive than thats that. all im saying is if you use the word don't sit here and try to make it okay or mean something positive because its not. you can't justify the use of the word by saying well I can say it because I lived it, times are completely different and to say you EARNED the right to use the word is complete bullshit. You aren't sent to the back of the bus and you share bathroom and you can live in white surburbia...wtf? I use it in vain but Im going to try to delete it from my vocab.

CherChezLaMarauder
05-17-2006, 08:30 AM
i hardly use the word nowadays. i used to abuse it when i was younger. Kudos for me

TeknicelStylez
05-17-2006, 08:32 AM
No disrespect but, any of yall ever been attacked by skin heads? Got racially attacked by groups of kids everyday at school, dragged off a block and taken to a dark alley way while cops beat the shit out of you with night sticks? Pulled over 5 minutes walking into a town? Cmon mang I know bout this shit more than most cats that been shielded from it all their life, racism still fuckin exists yo, you can't be like times aint ruff no more. Where I'm from lil kid's is getting caught in fuckin cross fire and my best friends that I grew up with are starving to death or getting locked in concentration camps. How the fuck am I not a nigger, like I said I just call it like it is, everybody a nigger to the system if you aint workin with em.

TAURO
05-17-2006, 08:41 AM
hmmm, this is an interesting post. When you truly think about the perception of what the word's intended meaning is today it really takes alot out of the struggle our ancestors faced during trying times. They is no doubt in my mind that if my grandma who was 104 at the time of her death (1896 - 2000) would have been surely called a nigger and would probably have had to use separate stalls and other such insults that dark skin people had to face had she not grown up in Puerto Rico. There is also no doubt in my head that my mother whose skin has the same rich tone as my grandmother would have gone through the same thing. (tauro da grim - thats one to grow on) I've seen so many films on how "YOUR" ancestors were treated and to hear the justification of the word and HOW its used today make me smh. Could you imagine what these souls who died for their right are thinking. Please if your going to use the word don't try to justify it. I have to say I am shocked at people even trying to soothe the use of the N word. You know how many people died violently just so they wouldn't be called "Nigger"? THATS JUST WRONG.

To me I think this is a valid campaign. Nigger mean ignorant not a person who grew up poor. Because no matter how poor you are you mind is always capable of being rich. Get out of that paradox.

I was not trying to justify it, if you had read my previous post you would see that I am completly against using such words.
What I was trying to say was that no matter what we think there are going to be people that carry on using such a word, and if it has to be used then it should only be used by people within the black community, not latins and especially not whites.

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 08:42 AM
i straight up see where your coming from, but at the same time there is a whole other element to the argument. the element of constant oppression, when you constantly feel oppressed you will do whatever you can to make yourself seem like you have some power over your life and emotions.
changing the meaning of the word nigger was one such situation where black folk wanted a sense of power over their oppressor.
at the end of the day it's still a delusion.

so since you feel "opressed" (Imma get into that in a minute) you have the right to use the word nigga? imma say it like this - get the fuck outta here. You people have no fucking clue what opression is. Im a fucking latina woman who has gone to jail SEVERAL times and one was a felony. CURRENTLY I am a student and above all I have a job where I earn good fucking money. NEVER in three lifetimes would I have this opportunity back in the days. You folks kill me with this opression shit. Get off your ass and earn your keep, every fucking opportunity you can imagine is available by way of many different channels. I hate hearin that. you opress yourselves.

No disrespect but, any of yall ever been attacked by skin heads? Got racially attacked by groups of kids everyday at school, dragged off a block and taken to a dark alley way while cops beat the shit out of you with night sticks? Pulled over 5 minutes walking into a town? Cmon mang I know bout this shit more than most cats that been shielded from it all their life, racism still fuckin exists yo, you can't be like times aint ruff no more. Where I'm from lil kid's is getting caught in fuckin cross fire and my best friends that I grew up with are starving to death or getting locked in concentration camps. How the fuck am I not a nigger, like I said I just call it like it is, everybody a nigger to the system if you aint workin with em.


and come on tek, you mah boi, you are way smarter than that. just cause they call and treat you as so doesn't make you a nigga. your mind is so far beyond that bro.

CherChezLaMarauder
05-17-2006, 09:04 AM
this is why i laugh when folks here speak on "revolting against the system". What are revolting against with opportunites come in abundance. Unless you're dwelling in some third world country don't talk to me

CherChezLaMarauder
05-17-2006, 09:16 AM
hey, there's always Africa my friend. Just stay away from the South

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 09:20 AM
you obviously missed the whole point of my post, but i will say that whole I did this and that argument is bullshit.
and to assume that a feeling of oppression is stimmed from laziness of not wanting to get up and do anything is bullshit aswell.
and seriously, i dont know what impression is? i assume you know me that well and have lived my life? i assume you know the trials and tribulations of all the people that have been around me to claim we know not oppression? don't be so systamatic.


come on legato, I said nothing pertaining to you, I describe a situation in which a woman (latin at that) should be with mad kids, on welfare and struggling and thats not the case. Opression is just such crap to me. The opportunities you have today were obsolete during the days of slavery. Its bullshit to say you are opressed.

Condoleeza Rice is the Secretary of State. No matter what, THAT IS HUGE!! the black man now has opportunities that were never given to them before. You have a choice. You can sit home and gripe about what you don't have or you can educate yourself and evovle. My dear friend, I choose to evolve.

and to tauro da grim my comments to you were referencing your comment about latin using the word nigga. the thing is prejudice is everywhere, unfortunately my dads family didn't like my mom because she was dark skinned (she is a black puerto rican -taino roots) and my dad is white (spanaird).

CherChezLaMarauder
05-17-2006, 09:23 AM
very often cats say "we use the term nigga because our anscestors were called these words, so we're turning it around on the white folks and make into a term of endearment" . I've always thought that was stupidity that not even God is capable of cursing one with. You're just keeping the oppression alive in a subliminal way. It makes you look ignorant as hell. I stopped using that word, not because of all this reasoning, but because i grew out of it. Might slip out my mouth once in a blue but whatever. I'm not even black, I'm puerto rican and we called each other nigga all day. My vocab just expanded thats all

TAURO
05-17-2006, 11:16 AM
illzPotent, Im also mixed, my mother's family is of indiginous/black mix colombian while my dad (who did not raise me) is white spanish.

I agree with a lot of what you are sayin about how we can all come up in this world no matter what race you are but at the same time there are people that live in enviroments that makes things a lot harder. I don't live in the states but I have family there and I have been there and I have to say that it does seem very segregated but I live in london and thankfully it is not as bad, while we do have our own racial divides I don't think it compares to americas.

TAURO
05-17-2006, 11:23 AM
and to tauro da grim my comments to you were referencing your comment about latin using the word nigga. the thing is prejudice is everywhere, unfortunately my dads family didn't like my mom because she was dark skinned (she is a black puerto rican -taino roots) and my dad is white (spanaird).[/QUOTE]

Regarding what I said before I was talking about young latinos refering to each other as niggas, that I don't agree with but then I think my opinion has as much to do with the fact that in england latinos and other minorities including black people don't use it as much because it's not part of our culture. When people do use it here it is frowned apon.

blackwisdom
05-17-2006, 12:03 PM
I saw a book that breaks this down. Recently a comrad of mines sent this to me. Check it out.


A HISTORY LESSON 4 ALL OF YALL

THE WORD "N-G-R" MEANS "GOD" IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN

The father of the "n" word was the word used by the ancient Egyptians for "God." That word was "N-g-r" and as one can see, there are no vowels in this word. In the ancient African and even the present African languages (the Afro-Asiatic linguistic family) vowels such as "a, e, i, o, u" are not found in many translations, particularly of ancient Hebrew and Egyptian languages.

In the translation of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew (which is heavily influenced by Egyptian), one will not always find vowels, therefore, very few people will realize that the word for God, which is "N-g-r" pronounced "en-ger" was the Egyptian word for God. In fact, the Egyptian word for "nature, " is also the word used for God. That word is "ntyr, " (pronounced net-jer." Now prounce the word "nigg.." and the word "net-jer, " and one sees the clear connection.

MANY AFRICAN WORDS SIGNIFYING IMPORTANT PEOPLE START WITH "N"

In many African languages particularly the Niger-Congo language family, words that connects with people, Gods, and groups begin with "n" and that word is always the first word. For instance, the word "Nkosi" in Xhosa is "God." The word "Ndaba, " in another South African language is "counsil" (or gathering of elders).

WORDS OF AFRICAN ORIGINS THAT CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL WORD, "N-G-R" (PROUNOUNCED EN-JER)

N-g-r (Egyptian;pronounced en-jer) = God
N-t-y-r (Egypt; pronounced net-ger) = God, Devine
Negash (Ethiopia; ne-gash) = King
Negus (Ethiopia; ne-goos) = Emperor
Nkosi (Xhosa; en-kosi) = God
Ndaba (Zulu; en-daba) = Counsil/Officials,
Naga (East Indian, Nubian = People
Nugarmarta (West African = People (See the writings of Ibn Buttata's journey to West Africa)

HOW THE N BECAME CORRUPTED

The Romans who were speakers of Latin always knew of Blacks, there were Blacks in Rome, Italy had an ancient Black presence long before the Latins migrated from Central Asia and North Eastern Europe during the 'Aryan' migrations. In fact, the Latin ethnic groups is still in existance in the northern part of Italy even today. This part of Italy still grips about Hannibal's invasion which happened about two thousand two hundred years ago!!!!

The Romans had a name for Blacks, it was "Niger" and it meant Black or people of African origins. Thus, Septimus Niger would have meant, Septimus the Negro. Yet, how did the Romans connect the word "Niger" to Black.

In ancient times, Blacks were worshipped as Gods. The Gods of Greece came from Egypt. The worship of the Black Madonna is connected with the worship of Isis, the Egyptian Goddes. Moreover, Blacks in Egypt called their Pharaohs "En-ger" or "N-g-r" he was literally referred to as "THE GOD."

A Roman general invading Nubia from Egypt would have used the Egyptian term for Pharaoh, which was "N-g-r" (God). This term then was used to refer to all Blacks and as time went by, the word N-g-r became Niger. In Fact, the Romans also classified their Emperors as "Gods, " to follow the Egyptian style. Moreover, as the History Channel poointed out, "Rome was a collection of villages before the Egyptians built it up."(paraphrased). The word "em-peror" sounds very close to the word "en-jer." That is not a coincidental connection.

THE WORD "N-G-R" (EN-JER) AFTER IT WAS CORRUPTED BY THE EUROPEANS

Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger.")

Nero = Italian for Black
Negre = French for Black
Negro = Spanish for Black

The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word "Negro" to refer to Blacks. From that word came the racial epithet, "NIGG".

CONNECTION WITH THE PREFIX "NI" WITH SACREDNESS AND LIFE

Ni'le = The Nile River, Life to the Egyptians

Ni-ger = River in West Africa
Niger = Nation in West Africa
Nigeria = Nation in West Africa

Nago = Racist term used by some SE Asians to refer to Black Melanesians of Africoid origins

Nago-Mina = African nationality in Nigeria

Naghual = Aztec word for Shaman or priest. The first Olmec Shamans in Mexico came from Nigeria and elsewhere in West Africa.

THE ORIGINAL NAME FOR JAPAN IS THE CHINESE TERM "NI-HAN"

The word "Ni" in the Chinese "Ni-Han" has an ancient African connection. Clyde Walters points out, The Chinese language is directly related to the Niger-Congo language which has its roots in the Cameroon region of Africa. In fact, there are thousands of African words from Cameroon to Kenya that have both prefixes and suffixes that are identical to both Chinese and Japanese languages (African Presence in Early Asia, by Ivan Van Sertima; Transaction Publishers).

Only hatred and envy comes out of the mouths of those who use racial epithets in their attempt to insult and denegrade others. However, it is up to us to study ourstory and make these racist words impotent, by knowing and under/inner/overstanding their original meaning

Hotep

blackwisdom
05-17-2006, 12:35 PM
To jump in right here.

I can't really be who I really am in this society. I have to wear a mask to assimulate. I have the blood of KMT, Nubia, Kush in me. I have the mentality of General Turner and General Tubman in me. I have the philosiphy of Dr. Diop and Dr. Akbar in me. I renounce any anti-spiritual practices, but I have to conform to this self-destructive world that we live in.

As far as the word Nigger, Nigga, etcetera, what people say is nothing compared to what people do. If you just call me a Nigga I'll say no I'm a God and you're a something else, but when you imprison portions of my people under false pretenses, FORCE us to live in delapidated housing communities, and false educate us that's when I have a problem. A true racist commits acts but a prejudice person can only say a word.

Hotep

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 01:06 PM
But you had rich black people during slavery, that didnt mean slavery wasnt a form of oppression. so to say oppression doesnt exist because 1 person got rich isnt a valid argument at all maam.
just because one latin woman is able to attain a good job doesnt mean all latin woman are capable or able to do the same.
you are aware the companies still have minority quotas? meaning they hire this many colord folk just to stay in the clear.
and thats just a inch of a mile long pie. a quick example. no oppression? i wish.

Wrong. not just one, but if any woman out there wanted, was hungry enough to go after what they want they have the means. I grew up in a family of seven bros and sis destined to be a product of my environment and I over ran that. I chose my path. I struggled through low wages and sexual harassment and anything else you could imagine to keep my down. but here I am. You have no clue. my struggle was wild and ridiculous. I won't break it down here but believe that a strong latina woman with indigenous roots is here to tell you that you are capable of getting out of that paradox.

huge why? see thats the thing too people get happy because of person of color gets somewhere but it really don't mean shit. puppet toy, trophy negro thats her position.

put someone in a position of power that will actually do something to better the negativitys then it'll mean something then it'll be huge.

I guess when somebody's mind is so set on proving they can't accomplish more because the white man doesn't allow them too, they are willing to put down any black person that actually has made it. Have you heard this woman speak. Did you watch her conive the very same white justice that opresses you? Are you that blinded? SHe is probably one of the most intelligent black woman you will see in seat and by no means do you have the right to call her out her name like that. shame on you legato.

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 01:07 PM
I saw a book that breaks this down. Recently a comrad of mines sent this to me. Check it out.


A HISTORY LESSON 4 ALL OF YALL

THE WORD "N-G-R" MEANS "GOD" IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN

The father of the "n" word was the word used by the ancient Egyptians for "God." That word was "N-g-r" and as one can see, there are no vowels in this word. In the ancient African and even the present African languages (the Afro-Asiatic linguistic family) vowels such as "a, e, i, o, u" are not found in many translations, particularly of ancient Hebrew and Egyptian languages.

In the translation of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew (which is heavily influenced by Egyptian), one will not always find vowels, therefore, very few people will realize that the word for God, which is "N-g-r" pronounced "en-ger" was the Egyptian word for God. In fact, the Egyptian word for "nature, " is also the word used for God. That word is "ntyr, " (pronounced net-jer." Now prounce the word "nigg.." and the word "net-jer, " and one sees the clear connection.

MANY AFRICAN WORDS SIGNIFYING IMPORTANT PEOPLE START WITH "N"

In many African languages particularly the Niger-Congo language family, words that connects with people, Gods, and groups begin with "n" and that word is always the first word. For instance, the word "Nkosi" in Xhosa is "God." The word "Ndaba, " in another South African language is "counsil" (or gathering of elders).

WORDS OF AFRICAN ORIGINS THAT CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL WORD, "N-G-R" (PROUNOUNCED EN-JER)

N-g-r (Egyptian;pronounced en-jer) = God
N-t-y-r (Egypt; pronounced net-ger) = God, Devine
Negash (Ethiopia; ne-gash) = King
Negus (Ethiopia; ne-goos) = Emperor
Nkosi (Xhosa; en-kosi) = God
Ndaba (Zulu; en-daba) = Counsil/Officials,
Naga (East Indian, Nubian = People
Nugarmarta (West African = People (See the writings of Ibn Buttata's journey to West Africa)

HOW THE N BECAME CORRUPTED

The Romans who were speakers of Latin always knew of Blacks, there were Blacks in Rome, Italy had an ancient Black presence long before the Latins migrated from Central Asia and North Eastern Europe during the 'Aryan' migrations. In fact, the Latin ethnic groups is still in existance in the northern part of Italy even today. This part of Italy still grips about Hannibal's invasion which happened about two thousand two hundred years ago!!!!

The Romans had a name for Blacks, it was "Niger" and it meant Black or people of African origins. Thus, Septimus Niger would have meant, Septimus the Negro. Yet, how did the Romans connect the word "Niger" to Black.

In ancient times, Blacks were worshipped as Gods. The Gods of Greece came from Egypt. The worship of the Black Madonna is connected with the worship of Isis, the Egyptian Goddes. Moreover, Blacks in Egypt called their Pharaohs "En-ger" or "N-g-r" he was literally referred to as "THE GOD."

A Roman general invading Nubia from Egypt would have used the Egyptian term for Pharaoh, which was "N-g-r" (God). This term then was used to refer to all Blacks and as time went by, the word N-g-r became Niger. In Fact, the Romans also classified their Emperors as "Gods, " to follow the Egyptian style. Moreover, as the History Channel poointed out, "Rome was a collection of villages before the Egyptians built it up."(paraphrased). The word "em-peror" sounds very close to the word "en-jer." That is not a coincidental connection.

THE WORD "N-G-R" (EN-JER) AFTER IT WAS CORRUPTED BY THE EUROPEANS

Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger.")

Nero = Italian for Black
Negre = French for Black
Negro = Spanish for Black

The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word "Negro" to refer to Blacks. From that word came the racial epithet, "NIGG".

CONNECTION WITH THE PREFIX "NI" WITH SACREDNESS AND LIFE

Ni'le = The Nile River, Life to the Egyptians

Ni-ger = River in West Africa
Niger = Nation in West Africa
Nigeria = Nation in West Africa

Nago = Racist term used by some SE Asians to refer to Black Melanesians of Africoid origins

Nago-Mina = African nationality in Nigeria

Naghual = Aztec word for Shaman or priest. The first Olmec Shamans in Mexico came from Nigeria and elsewhere in West Africa.

THE ORIGINAL NAME FOR JAPAN IS THE CHINESE TERM "NI-HAN"

The word "Ni" in the Chinese "Ni-Han" has an ancient African connection. Clyde Walters points out, The Chinese language is directly related to the Niger-Congo language which has its roots in the Cameroon region of Africa. In fact, there are thousands of African words from Cameroon to Kenya that have both prefixes and suffixes that are identical to both Chinese and Japanese languages (African Presence in Early Asia, by Ivan Van Sertima; Transaction Publishers).

Only hatred and envy comes out of the mouths of those who use racial epithets in their attempt to insult and denegrade others. However, it is up to us to study ourstory and make these racist words impotent, by knowing and under/inner/overstanding their original meaning

Hotep


This was truly an interesting read. It still doesn't justify the use of the word by our culture.

blackwisdom
05-17-2006, 01:23 PM
This was truly an interesting read. It still doesn't justify the use of the word by our culture.Well an oppressor's function is to exhaust every means to bring about negative results for its subjects. The Greeks worshipped BLACKS as Gods. You're not suppose to know that. Plato and his fellow scholars were shunned and there lives were threatened when he brought home the divine teachings of the Africans. I have one word that will remody this problem. Kujichagulia - Self Determination. Once I define myself and name myself it no longer matters what some other group of people call me because I know in my heart who and what I am. I live the Nguzo Saba everyday as much as I can to bring about a more holistic and healthy me. Reactionary as it is it seems to word under these circumstances.

Hotep

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 01:26 PM
no way, she defended herself up there. how many people break under pressure, she was cool, calm and collected and in no way a negro puppet. She defended herself when the weight of the situation leaned on HER shoulders. They tried to make it HER fault. She came out that unscathe and she is still a reputable woman.

Did you even catch the first sentence of my statement. You geniunely believe you aren't more than the white man allows you to be? You Legato? I refuse to believe that. The strong man I see write everyday? I'm sorry for seeing a different horizon for you.

ilzPotent
05-17-2006, 01:30 PM
what? hellll no.

sorry you threw me off. he inherited everything he has, I could never respect a man like him.

blackwisdom
05-17-2006, 01:40 PM
so true so true, thats why i tried to turn people here onto libradio, and innerlight radio because you get to hear the things you never get taught anywhere else.

the medicine, the mathmatics, all these things white people took from african culture. till this day they use african text in the medicle field.True that.

TeknicelStylez
05-17-2006, 03:33 PM
Bottom line, I appologize ahead of time for offending anyone.

I really don't give a fuck if you don't agree with me.

I use the word nigga, and will continue using the word nigga in my vocabulary as a term of endearment for my fellow hood peoples, just like I have been doing for the past 14 years.

PEACE