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06-08-2006, 11:10 AM
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed in air raid By PATRICK QUINN, Associated Press Writer




Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the most-wanted terrorist in Iraq who waged a bloody campaign of beheadings and suicide bombings, was killed when U.S. warplanes dropped 500-pound bombs on his isolated safehouse, officials said Thursday. His death was a long-sought victory in the war in Iraq.

Al-Zarqawi and several aides, including spiritual adviser Sheik Abdul Rahman, were killed Wednesday evening in a remote area 30 miles from Baghdad in the volatile province of Diyala, just east of the provincial capital of Baqouba, officials said.

"Al-Zarqawi was eliminated," Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said.

At the White House, President Bush hailed the killing as "a severe blow to al-Qaida and it is a significant victory in the war on terror."

But he cautioned: "We have tough days ahead of us in Iraq that will require the continuing patience of the American people."

The news came amid more reports of violence in Iraq, with two bombs striking a market and a police patrol in Baghdad, killing at least 19 people and wounding more than 40.

Al-Qaida in Iraq confirmed al-Zarqawi's death and vowed to continue its "holy war," according to a statement posted on a Web site.

"We want to give you the joyous news of the martyrdom of the mujahed sheik Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

"The death of our leaders is life for us. It will only increase our persistence in continuing holy war so that the word of God will be supreme."

Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said the hunt for al-Zarqawi began two weeks ago, and his body was identified by fingerprints and facial recognition. The U.S. military showed a picture of al-Zarqawi's face after the airstrike, with his eyes closed and spots of blood behind him.

Casey said an American airstrike targeted "an identified, isolated safe house."

U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell showed a videotape of an attack in which he said F-16 fighter jets dropped two 500-pound bombs on the site.

"We had absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Zarqawi was in the house," Caldwell said.

Casey said tips and intelligence from senior leaders of al-Zarqawi's network led U.S. forces to al-Zarqawi as he was meeting with associates. Iraqi police were first on the scene after the airstrike, he said.

Caldwell also said U.S. and Iraqi troops carried out 17 raids around Baghdad following al-Zarqawi's killing.

The announcement about al-Zarqawi's death came six days after he issued an audiotape on the Internet, railing against Shiites in Iraq and saying militias were raping women and killing Sunnis. He urged the community to fight back.

The Jordanian-born terrorist was Iraq's most-wanted militant and was nearly as notorious as Osama bin Laden, to whom he swore allegiance in 2004. The United States put a $25 million bounty on his head, the same as bin Laden. Al-Maliki told al-Arabiya television the bounty would be honored, saying "we will meet our promise," without elaborating.

Al-Zarqawi is believed to have beheaded two Americans Nicholas Berg of West Chester, Pa., and Eugene Armstrong, formerly of Hillsdale, Mich. prompting supporters to dub him "the slaughtering sheik."

Al-Maliki said the Wednesday night airstrike by U.S. forces was based on intelligence reports provided to Iraqi security forces by area residents.

A Jordanian official said the kingdom also provided the U.S. military with information that helped track down al-Zarqawi, who claimed responsibility for a November triple suicide bombing against Amman hotels that killed 60.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was addressing intelligence issues, would not elaborate, but Jordan is known to have agents operating in Iraq to hunt down Islamic militants.

Some of the information came from Jordan's sources inside Iraq and led the U.S. military to the area of Baqouba, the official said.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told The Associated Press that a serious effort to find al-Zarqawi had been underway since he appeared in a videotape in late April the same week messages were broadcast by bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri.

He said the location in which al-Zarqawi appeared in the videotape had been "pinpointed," without elaborating.

Baqouba has in recent weeks seen a spike in sectarian violence, including the discovery of 17 severed heads in fruit boxes. It also was near the site of a sectarian atrocity last week in which masked gunmen killed 21 Shiites, including a dozen students pulled from minibuses, after separating out four Sunni Arabs.

"Those who disrupt the course of life, like al-Zarqawi, will have a tragic end," al-Maliki said. He also warned those who would follow the militant's lead that "whenever there is a new al-Zarqawi, we will kill him."

"This is a message for all those who embrace violence, killing and destruction to stop and to (retreat) before it's too late," he said. "It is an open battle with all those who incite sectarianism."

A U.S. defense intelligence official, who requested anonymity while events were unfolding, said there is no intelligence indicating that extremists planned attacks that would be triggered by al-Zarqawi's death.

However, the official said, with his death, there may be some retaliation.

It was not clear to American authorities who would succeed al-Zarqawi as the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq. The official noted that a number of al-Zarqawi's deputies have been taken out in recent months, which could cause chaos among the group's top tier.

Caldwell said an Egyptian-born man he identified as Abu al-Masri will probably take over al-Qaida in Iraq.

In London, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said al-Zarqawi's death "was very good news because a blow against al-Qaida in Iraq was a blow against al-Qaida everywhere." Afghan President Hamid Karzai said the killing was "a significant step in ridding the world of the menace of terrorism."

In Jordan, al-Zarqawi's older brother said the insurgent leader was a martyr, and the family had long expected his death. Al-Zarqawi's family had renounced him in the wake of the Amman bombings.

"We anticipated that he would be killed for a very long time," Sayel al-Khalayleh told The Associated Press by phone from Zarqa, the town from which al-Zarqawi derived his name.

Al-Zarqawi's oversaw a wave of kidnappings of foreigners and the killings of at least a dozen, including Arab diplomats and three Americans. He also was a master Internet propagandist, spreading the call for Islamic extremists to join the "jihad," or holy war, in Iraq. His group posted gruesome images of beheadings, speeches by al-Zarqawi and recruitment videos depicting the planning and execution of its most daring attacks.

Iraqi citizens had mixed reactions to the news of al-Zarqawi's death.

Thamir Abdulhussein, a college student in Baghdad, said he hoped the killing would promote peace between the fractured ethnic and sectarian groups.

"If it's true al-Zarqawi was killed, that will be a big happiness for all the Iraqis," he said. "He was behind all the killings of Sunni and Shiites. Iraqis should now move toward reconciliation. They should stop the violence."

Amir Muhammed Ali, a 45-year-old stock broker in Baghdad, was skeptical that al-Zarqawi's death would end the unrelenting sectarian violence and said the Iraqi resistance to U.S.-led forces likely would continue.

"He didn't represent the resistance, someone will replace him and the operations will go on," he said.

In the past year, al-Zarqawi moved his campaign beyond Iraq's borders to Jordan and Lebanon, where he claimed responsbility for a rocket attack from Lebanon into northern Israel.

U.S. forces and their allies came close to capturing al-Zarqawi several times since his campaign began in mid-2003.

The closest brush may have come in late 2004. Deputy Interior Ministry Maj. Gen. Hussein Kamal said Iraqi security forces caught al-Zarqawi near the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah but then released him because they did not realize who he was.

In May 2005, Web statements by his group said al-Zarqawi had been wounded in fighting with Americans and was being treated in a hospital abroad raising speculation over a successor among his lieutenants. But days later, a statement said al-Zarqawi was fine and had returned to Iraq. There was never any independent confirmation that he was wounded.

U.S. forces believe they just missed capturing al-Zarqawi in a Feb. 20, 2005, raid in which troops closed in on his vehicle west of Baghdad near the Euphrates River. His driver and another associate were captured and al-Zarqawi's computer was seized along with pistols and ammunition.

U.S. troops twice launched massive invasions of Fallujah, the stronghold used by al-Qaida in Iraq fighters and other insurgents west of Baghdad. An April 2004 offensive left the city still in insurgent hands, but an October 2004 assault wrested it from them.

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Associated Press reporter Katherine Shrader in Washington contributed to this report.



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whitey
06-08-2006, 11:41 AM
this coulda been posted in the thread about 4 below this one dealing with the same topic.

MathMatician
06-08-2006, 12:28 PM
^ Nah Mean!

WuTangWarrior
06-08-2006, 12:52 PM
this is going to start a lot of conflict...

born invincible
06-08-2006, 01:14 PM
bout time... this fucker got what was coming to him.

HANZO
06-08-2006, 02:01 PM
it dont change a thing, this guy was unknown before the war, i am sure another terrorist/freedom fighter like him will come out.

GENERAL WISE
06-08-2006, 02:47 PM
he was just a figure the U.S created to personify the Iraqi insurgance. So was Osama Bin Laden.

This means alot and nothing at the same time

Gawd
06-08-2006, 02:52 PM
this is going to start a lot of conflict...
Who cares. You sound like Nick bergs father who said we shouldn't of killed Zarqawi. Pacifists are not going to get anything done. The only thing these Pol understand is death and slaughter. Thats how they respond to our words. Thats how they respond to negotiations. Zarqawi deserved death and he got it.

100pr00f
06-08-2006, 03:11 PM
he was on are list since war started..on the deck cards haha
wasnt just heard after war..maybe u justr heard of him after the war started

S.T.
06-08-2006, 03:20 PM
R.I.P Zarqawi. I only hope that his successors are gonna finally kick Americans outta Iraq and show that son of a Bush that he can't do whatever he wants.

HANZO
06-08-2006, 03:31 PM
he was on are list since war started..on the deck cards haha
wasnt just heard after war..maybe u justr heard of him after the war started

what card was he. 5 of hearts maybe.

i know the man was in the afghan war and shit like that but he was just a sergeant. he got big as leader of al-queda in iraq. his name and rank got bigger with the war. im sure theres others out therem who were probably 2 of diamonds on the deck of cards.

Gawd
06-08-2006, 04:11 PM
R.I.P Zarqawi. I only hope that his successors are gonna finally kick Americans outta Iraq and show that son of a Bush that he can't do whatever he wants.

What a retard. ^

born invincible
06-08-2006, 06:30 PM
R.I.P Zarqawi. I only hope that his successors are gonna finally kick Americans outta Iraq and show that son of a Bush that he can't do whatever he wants.


your funny...

born invincible
06-08-2006, 09:00 PM
he was on are list since war started..on the deck cards haha
wasnt just heard after war..maybe u justr heard of him after the war started



http://cdn.news.aol.com/aolnews_photos/04/02/20060608044009990001

whitey
06-08-2006, 10:42 PM
Who cares. You sound like Nick bergs father who said we shouldn't of killed Zarqawi. Pacifists are not going to get anything done. The only thing these Pol understand is death and slaughter. Thats how they respond to our words. Thats how they respond to negotiations. Zarqawi deserved death and he got it.


If only everyone in this world was like Nick Bergs father, this world would be a much better place.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/berg.interview/index.html

Here is an interview with Mr.Berg. Its short, give it a read.

Gawd
06-08-2006, 10:51 PM
If only everyone in this world was like Nick Bergs father, this world would be a much better place.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/berg.interview/index.html

Here is an interview with Mr.Berg. Its short, give it a read.

Unfortunately it is not and therefore this is no solution.

whitey
06-08-2006, 11:50 PM
Then any and all American tatics that have been done are cool with you? Im talking in the United States history. Like all the dirty shit, just to maintain power. Kind of in the way Niccolo Machiavelli talked about things in The Prince. "The ends justify the means" type of deal.

snapple
06-09-2006, 06:41 AM
good motherfuckers dead, now he can go up the elevator and suck allah's cock off

HANZO
06-09-2006, 01:31 PM
good motherfuckers dead, now he can go up the elevator and suck allah's cock off

your a rascist punk.

born invincible
06-09-2006, 02:49 PM
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Gawd
06-09-2006, 06:04 PM
Then any and all American tatics that have been done are cool with you? Im talking in the United States history. Like all the dirty shit, just to maintain power. Kind of in the way Niccolo Machiavelli talked about things in The Prince. "The ends justify the means" type of deal.

Dont try and hijack the thread. He is dead. We killed him. End of story. If you want to describe American military and political history in the world for the past 200 hundred years then start a thread and ill join in.

Gawd
06-09-2006, 06:04 PM
your a rascist punk.

Muslim bastard

Frontal Lobotomy
06-09-2006, 07:19 PM
Seriously, who the fuck is this guy? He just a name and a face that makes for good propaganda. It's ok that the US military no doubt killed a couple hundred civilians in getting to this so-called target, just so long as America wins. Go figure

Gawd
06-09-2006, 07:22 PM
Seriously, who the fuck is this guy? He just a name and a face that makes for good propaganda. It's ok that the US military no doubt killed a couple hundred civilians in getting to this so-called target, just so long as America wins. Go figure

He is not just a face and a name. He was a leader. And civilians get killed when you hang with them and you are the target of a bomb. He put civilians in just as much danger as the US did.

born invincible
06-09-2006, 07:23 PM
Seriously, who the fuck is this guy? He just a name and a face that makes for good propaganda. It's ok that the US military no doubt killed a couple hundred civilians in getting to this so-called target, just so long as America wins. Go figure


its bigger than that...

Frontal Lobotomy
06-09-2006, 07:38 PM
He was a leader? according to whom? S'all spin. Even if this dude existed, him being bombed is the US' way of cleaning up their own mess. I'd still like to know how many civilians were injured or killed in the raid on this guy, sadly the rightwing spin machine won't provide us with such information

Gawd
06-09-2006, 07:42 PM
He was a leader? according to whom? S'all spin. Even if this dude existed, him being bombed is the US' way of cleaning up their own mess. I'd still like to know how many civilians were injured or killed in the raid on this guy, sadly the rightwing spin machine won't provide us with such information

He was a leader according to his followers in Jordan. He was refered to by al zahiwri as the Leader of Al Qaida In Iraq. Al Zawhiri is Bin LAdens number 1 man. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5062302.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5062302.stm)

Your just a braindead pacifist. Go on now. Save a tree.

Frontal Lobotomy
06-09-2006, 07:55 PM
Yes well, Osama Bin Laden was allegedly leader of Al qaeda too, and he was working for the CIA, so I wouldn't look too much into who these leaders are. Concern yourself more with who they work for.
And yeah, braindead pacifist..hahaha, how puerile. You need to save remarks like that for General Chat, and stick to civilised debate a little bit more. You're in danger of looking like a simpleton. I'm all for people having seperate views, but I'm at least willing to acknowledge what they say, instead of looking for the most simple minded way to mudsling.

born invincible
06-09-2006, 09:19 PM
I'd still like to know how many civilians were injured or killed in the raid on this guy, sadly the rightwing spin machine won't provide us with such information

first off i wanna say i respect your thoughts and opinions.. thats important here.

read this online.. cant verify obviously how accurate it is:


"Caldwell said it was possible that al-Zarqawi was not inside the safehouse when it was attacked, a scenario which might explain why only he among six people killed in the raid initially survived the bombing."


in other spots i read that 2 women and a child was among those that died with Zarqawi... but again, its hard to verify.

two 500 pound bombs.... i seen the video. it did hella damage... anyone in a 200 to 300 meter radius wouldve been cooked i think..

anyways... this dude was a figure head in iraq.. thats a fact. insurgents looked to him for guidance. u can deny it if you want... but its still a fact. now hes dead. end of story.. it will knock out the organization of the insurgents for awhile but sooner or later another will step up and take his place. there are plenty of these nutcases in iraq to go around. the thing is... they are not affraid to die. that kind of dedication to war will be hell to beat!


peace

Frontal Lobotomy
06-09-2006, 09:34 PM
That's cool, thanks for the extra info. I can understand that this fellow was seen as a public figurehead and I'm not denying that as such, I'm just more interested in what roles these people play. These dudes whose mugshots appear on wanted posters still take orders from somewhere, and it ain't Allah, that's for sure.

born invincible
06-09-2006, 11:19 PM
That's cool, thanks for the extra info. I can understand that this fellow was seen as a public figurehead and I'm not denying that as such, I'm just more interested in what roles these people play. These dudes whose mugshots appear on wanted posters still take orders from somewhere, and it ain't Allah, that's for sure.


true... according to evidence and the sort, Zarqawi was Al Qaeda's prince in Iraq... have pledged loyalty to bin Laden... people like him are good for the War effort with the US and coalition forces.. it gives us a target we familiarize ourselfs with.. and when we nab em.. its like a victory..

i have a hard time believin Zarqawi was workin for anyone other than himself and possible Al Qaeda on behalf of bin Laden... who knows!!!

Aqueous Moon
06-10-2006, 02:32 AM
Seriously, who the fuck is this guy? He just a name and a face that makes for good propaganda. It's ok that the US military no doubt killed a couple hundred civilians in getting to this so-called target, just so long as America wins. Go figure

^I agree.

Those civilians don't deserve to be murdered.

thejesusfunk
06-10-2006, 08:04 AM
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Longbongcilvaringz
06-10-2006, 08:35 AM
he was just a figure the U.S created to personify the Iraqi insurgance. So was Osama Bin Laden.

This means alot and nothing at the same time


agreed.

snapple
06-10-2006, 02:34 PM
your a rascist punk.

how is that racist in any way shape or form...

HANZO
06-10-2006, 05:04 PM
Muslim bastard

christian infidel.

how is that racist in any way shape or form...

read through your statement and look at it from a muslims perspective. mocking islam that is. using allah's name in vain. you get it.

and about Zarqawi the man was an evil man, not even Osama agreed with zarqawi, the aim of al queda is to kill westerners not fellow muslims. his war on shia's is wrong and is not in islam. also he has ruthlessly killed many turkish and pakistanis who go to iraq for work. they are sunni, but he still kills them. this is the reason why muslims didnt like him, instead of fighting the occupiers he was having a war with fellow muslims.

born invincible
06-10-2006, 05:25 PM
christian infidel.



read through your statement and look at it from a muslims perspective. mocking islam that is. using allah's name in vain. you get it.

and about Zarqawi the man was an evil man, not even Osama agreed with zarqawi, the aim of al queda is to kill westerners not fellow muslims. his war on shia's is wrong and is not in islam. also he has ruthlessly killed many turkish and pakistanis who go to iraq for work. they are sunni, but he still kills them. this is the reason why muslims didnt like him, instead of fighting the occupiers he was having a war with fellow muslims.


actually... it is purported that bin Laden ask all fellow muslims to follow Zarqawi.. alQaeda's prince in iraq.

Rooty P
06-10-2006, 08:22 PM
Absolutely blew me away when I heard the news of Zarqawi's death. I still can't believe it. Not saying it DIDN'T happen, but I just can't wrap my mind around it.

hectis
06-10-2006, 11:01 PM
I Am Not At All Shoked By His Death They Had To Kill Some One Of At The Top To Make It Look Like There Really Doing Something To Feed The Public but I Agree Him, Bush Bin Laden There All Puppets

Frontal Lobotomy
06-11-2006, 06:31 AM
In all honesty, I'm suprised they didn't conveniently find him in some random hole somewhere, like they did with Saddam

snapple
06-11-2006, 01:00 PM
christian infidel.



read through your statement and look at it from a muslims perspective. mocking islam that is. using allah's name in vain. you get it.

and about Zarqawi the man was an evil man, not even Osama agreed with zarqawi, the aim of al queda is to kill westerners not fellow muslims. his war on shia's is wrong and is not in islam. also he has ruthlessly killed many turkish and pakistanis who go to iraq for work. they are sunni, but he still kills them. this is the reason why muslims didnt like him, instead of fighting the occupiers he was having a war with fellow muslims.

do you know what racism is? anyone can be a muslim it's a theology it isn't a race.....therefor i am not being racist in anyway, i'm using allahs name in vain i guess, but i dont give a fuck

arto
06-11-2006, 04:37 PM
everyone in this thread, of course, is forgetting the fundamental thing and that is that america has just perpetrated a fucking WAR CRIME by blowing this fella up. this is the equivalent of 9/11, in principle. i find it disgusting that people actually thought this was good or constructive. people have been saying things like they hope that this shows the "insurgents" that using violence to acheive one's aims gets you nowhere... but what has just happened? the u.s has just killed a man to further their aims. isn't this the terror they are supposedly trying to stamp out? it really doesn't take a genius to see how wrong this was. i hate how hypocritical the bush government is, proudly parading the pictures on the news of a dead man, like holding up the head of a freshly guillotined convict. its fucking barbaric, and then they have the audacity that they are trying to stop this kind of thing? how can anyone have faith in them? it astounds me how stupid people can be.

PuNcH_iN_PuNcH_OuT
06-11-2006, 06:18 PM
lets kill all the bad people until there are none left!

stupid retards

born invincible
06-11-2006, 07:47 PM
everyone in this thread, of course, is forgetting the fundamental thing and that is that america has just perpetrated a fucking WAR CRIME by blowing this fella up. this is the equivalent of 9/11, in principle. i find it disgusting that people actually thought this was good or constructive. people have been saying things like they hope that this shows the "insurgents" that using violence to acheive one's aims gets you nowhere... but what has just happened? the u.s has just killed a man to further their aims. isn't this the terror they are supposedly trying to stamp out? it really doesn't take a genius to see how wrong this was. i hate how hypocritical the bush government is, proudly parading the pictures on the news of a dead man, like holding up the head of a freshly guillotined convict. its fucking barbaric, and then they have the audacity that they are trying to stop this kind of thing? how can anyone have faith in them? it astounds me how stupid people can be.



with all due respect... shut up. your paragraph lacked anything intelligent.

war crime? we killed that stupid fuck cause he attacking us and innocent iraqis.

you compare that to 9/11? we killed this dude and a few others in a airstrike and you compare that to like over the 3000+ in 9/11?

go read a x-men comic or somethin and leave the intelligent talk alone... your at risk of looking stupid!!

PuNcH_iN_PuNcH_OuT
06-12-2006, 09:16 AM
3000 people died in 9/11

How many Iraqis has died because of this war? Through Americas actions and the UK for going along with it have created the conditions for terrorism to spread like wild fire

arto
06-12-2006, 04:15 PM
with all due respect... shut up. your paragraph lacked anything intelligent.

war crime? we killed that stupid fuck cause he attacking us and innocent iraqis.

you compare that to 9/11? we killed this dude and a few others in a airstrike and you compare that to like over the 3000+ in 9/11?

go read a x-men comic or somethin and leave the intelligent talk alone... your at risk of looking stupid!!

you're justifying the army's actions by saying they killed a man who killed civillians and members of your army, but you're forgetting that for the last 3 years the american military has killed thousands of civillians. some people reckon it's a bout 400,000. so why don't you bomb your army?

you misinterpret what i menat by comparing it to 9/11. remember how it put the words "in principle" afterwards? that's because i'm comparing the two acts in the abstract. the army flew into another country's airspace and bombed a civillian target. this is what happened at 9/11.

wake up to the hypocrisy of your government, because it's rife, and don't insult me personally, because that's honestly quite childish.

HANZO
06-12-2006, 06:01 PM
the US government are a bunch of bastards and they just use 9/11. i got a very good example of double standards. Turkey has raged a war with the militant kurds for 30 years. in this period 30,000 turkish civilians were killed by the kurds in terrorist acts. in 1997 the turks captured the leader of the kurds. he was gonna be killed, but the americans espeicially stopped turkey from killing the leader of the terrorist. now is it justified to kill al zarqawi. no if we cant kill a terror leader who has caused soo much shit over 30 years and killed 30,000 people, the americans have no fukin right to kill zarqawi then. fukin hell we now gotta look after this terror leader, he lives like a king his prison cell has everything. the man lives in a private prison. now the americans and european nations are putting pressure on turkey to release him.

arto
06-12-2006, 07:29 PM
the US government are a bunch of bastards and they just use 9/11. i got a very good example of double standards. Turkey has raged a war with the militant kurds for 30 years. in this period 30,000 turkish civilians were killed by the kurds in terrorist acts. in 1997 the turks captured the leader of the kurds. he was gonna be killed, but the americans espeicially stopped turkey from killing the leader of the terrorist. now is it justified to kill al zarqawi. no if we cant kill a terror leader who has caused soo much shit over 30 years and killed 30,000 people, the americans have no fukin right to kill zarqawi then. fukin hell we now gotta look after this terror leader, he lives like a king his prison cell has everything. the man lives in a private prison. now the americans and european nations are putting pressure on turkey to release him.

it's completely outrageous. they don't even try to hide all this either, it's just that the u.s propaganda machine is so well run that the citizens think they actually live in a just and free society, devoid of any misgivings or animosity to other nations, unless they "deserve" it.