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SurreaL
07-06-2006, 05:12 PM
Why does Bush say stupid shit like this on a world wide broadcast?

"It is in our interests that we send a clear message to the leaders of North Korea," he added at a White House news conference with Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Just like the clear message you sent to the Middle East, :fucku: anyways..

North Korea is gonna fuck someone up if someone attacks their Country, and I have a feeling thats coming soon, and when that happens, every Country is going to be open for attack, Bush is going to start the Draft again, what the fuck is going on in this world? The price of life isn't worth Gambling, but yet he's still doing it like he won't ever go bust, Bombs are gonna be dropped left and right........ so why the fuck do we have to suffer?, us the people that just want to live life, us people that don't give a fuck about your race/culture, Bush is getting worried that NK is testing missles?, What about the middle east?, how do they feel that they have US Troops patroling the streets, and gunfights everyday, but i'm getting off track here,

If South Korea and China join Japan and the United States, North Korea would collapse

I agree with that quote, what the hell is everyone going to get out of this fight?, some blown up building, innocent blood spilled, and more hatred for one another, These Leaders need to meet or conference or some shit and talk this out like leaders should, War should be the last resort, I think we've had enough violence this era already.

born invincible
07-06-2006, 05:20 PM
word! we have lost some great people in this fight.. unfortunately, Bush is on a war path. not sure why.. i guess the only thing evil people know is evil... plus the man is not very intelligent. not a good combination. remember tho... we may not support the war.. but be sure to support our Soldiers. the need it.

SurreaL
07-06-2006, 05:50 PM
I can't agree with every issue the troops are fighting for, but prayers and support are their for you's, peace.

PLO-Stylez
07-06-2006, 09:55 PM
I know ppl dont agree with the war we at now but North Korea would be a totally different war it aint gonna be like Iraq where in 2 weeks they surrender then we have a shitty occupation its gonna actually be a long war that dictator is fukkin crazy they talkin that he already has nukes n shit on the news but he jus cant launch them

But the draft wont come back even if we went to war with Korea it cant the military is to large to need that but i aint holdin my breath or nuthin cuz i will be eligable for a draft in a few months that shit would suk

The draft they talked about a while bak was for balancing the military ethnically u know politically correct shit since most in the military is black an latin than white they wanted to draft more white ppl to balance everything out but congress being white wouldnt pass that law

Support the troops even if u hate the ones makin the desisions in DC

Prince Equality
07-07-2006, 04:33 PM
word! we have lost some great people in this fight.. unfortunately, Bush is on a war path. not sure why.. i guess the only thing evil people know is evil... plus the man is not very intelligent. not a good combination. remember tho... we may not support the war.. but be sure to support our Soldiers. the need it.

Yo fuck the soldiers too! They're just as stupid as Bush himself. Who the hell do they think they are? The try to play God by takin' other people's lives. Man but the soldiers!

Frontal Lobotomy
07-07-2006, 04:45 PM
Soldiers are never to blame. They don't have personal politics, only orders. Certainly the incidents of torture leave a sour taste in one's mouth, but when has a war never had people being tortured?
With regard to the whole war concept, when has the world ever been free of it? I believe ther are currently 30 active wars in the world, thereabouts. Sure, it's been going on forever, but swords and sticks weren't a trillion dollar industry.

Punch
07-07-2006, 05:07 PM
when did we stop being at war?

HANZO
07-07-2006, 05:07 PM
the states have no interest in attacking north korea, the americans plan to sanction the koreans and this will weaken them, after about 10-15 years they will attack and hope that a weak north korea would oppose no threat. now they north koreans are way too strong, they deliberatly launch missiles and the world can only watch. the reason why is because north korea have one of the best armies. they have the top russian fighter jets and tanks. iraq was a broken country the people there dont give a shit about iraq because they are separated anyways with religion or tribe. the north koreans have an army why risk so many lives of soldiers and furthermore weaken american defences and drown the country's finances on a war with north korea. the american armed forces are already streched no way can they invade north korea while they are pinned down in the middle east, not only with iraq but they want to add the scalps of iran and syria as well.

Darkdestination
07-07-2006, 05:43 PM
I hope not but there is always war. I don't like all those weapons because there is a weapon for every weapon. If someone is crazy enough to drop or I don't know how that goes or how they do that an ATOMICBOMB then we all go.. But that's useless? Chemical weapons are dangerous.

GENERAL WISE
07-07-2006, 05:53 PM
war is cool!

send G-unit and make them prove their guerilla knowhow

Darkdestination
07-07-2006, 05:54 PM
War is cool only sensationseekers say that.

Gawd
07-07-2006, 06:22 PM
YOu guys all sound like a bunch of scared faggots............

Bush isnt starting a war in North Korea...Kim Jung Ill is starting a war in North Korea.

North Korea is nothing. Their missle that was to be long range failed after 35 seconds in flight. Their ppl starve to death. Millions have. They use old russian soviet armor and weapons. These d00ds are nothing. YOu guys are all scared to do somthing about a d00d that threatens all out war. I agree diplomacy needs to be primary but cmon....dont tuck your chains.

whitey
07-07-2006, 09:00 PM
going into korea would be like going into nam (could we say iraq qualifies as the same yet? idk but its getting there)

they aint killing shit. just let them sit there acting tuff.

Gawd
07-07-2006, 09:55 PM
going into korea would be like going into nam (could we say iraq qualifies as the same yet? idk but its getting there)

they aint killing shit. just let them sit there acting tuff.

We've lost 2500 men in Iraq in 3 years.

That is nothing like Vietnam. Also we are fighting Muslim extreamists which are just as or more crazier than the vietcong.

PLO-Stylez
07-07-2006, 10:32 PM
Yo fuck the soldiers too! They're just as stupid as Bush himself. Who the hell do they think they are? The try to play God by takin' other people's lives. Man but the soldiers!

if u dont have the fukin balls to do what soldiers do then dont talk shit about them

do us all a favor an shut the fuck up and stop disrespecting the soldiers

your a closed minded fool

PLO-Stylez
07-07-2006, 10:41 PM
YOu guys all sound like a bunch of scared faggots............

Bush isnt starting a war in North Korea...Kim Jung Ill is starting a war in North Korea.

North Korea is nothing. Their missle that was to be long range failed after 35 seconds in flight. Their ppl starve to death. Millions have. They use old russian soviet armor and weapons. These d00ds are nothing. YOu guys are all scared to do somthing about a d00d that threatens all out war. I agree diplomacy needs to be primary but cmon....dont tuck your chains.

old russian weapons and armor when did a country use these primitive things against us ...Vietnam an AK is a better weapon thatn an m16 it never breaks north korea does have a large army that is trained and drilled for years to basically fight as suicide soldiors if they have to

i now we can make all of the assumptions we want but until action happens we wont know
i hope diplomacy works but a guy that crazy i dunno

BTW Iraq is nothing like Vietnam they lost 2500 men in a single month in Vietnam Iraq is 3 years casualty rate is under 5 % in Iraq aswell

Also Korea aint no joke i read a few articles that say there could be a hundred thousand US casualties going after North Korea just because of the shear size of their military -if u want a link to an article i can giv u 1

In the end it is still speculation

Gawd
07-07-2006, 11:04 PM
old russian weapons and armor when did a country use these primitive things against us ...Vietnam an AK is a better weapon thatn an m16 it never breaks north korea does have a large army that is trained and drilled for years to basically fight as suicide soldiors if they have to

i now we can make all of the assumptions we want but until action happens we wont know
i hope diplomacy works but a guy that crazy i dunno

BTW Iraq is nothing like Vietnam they lost 2500 men in a single month in Vietnam Iraq is 3 years casualty rate is under 5 % in Iraq aswell

Also Korea aint no joke i read a few articles that say there could be a hundred thousand US casualties going after North Korea just because of the shear size of their military -if u want a link to an article i can giv u 1

In the end it is still speculation

D00d the size of their military doesn't really mean alot against our technology. It is mandatory to serve there. They have no choice. If it were the same thing here our military would be much larger.

Yes the AK is better than the m16....but what good are their weapons when we are smashing them from the sky.

At least you didn't sound like you were ready to roll over though....word.

HANZO
07-08-2006, 04:26 PM
mig fighter jets are as good if not better than the f-16's and f-18's. also there soviet tanks are known to be better than the abram tanks. another advantage is that the north koreans have a elite commando unit that is 500,000 in number. they are highly trained, and are much more dangerous than an iraqi with an AK. dont compare iraq with vietnam because the vietcongs were brave in fighting there war. the iraqi's are split and they are more interested in killing each other than attack the americans. and you must remember yes the americans do have technology and all these great new weapons but at the moment they are all in the middle east in use against the muslim extreamists. they cant go fight a war with one of the best armies in the world now because they will lose. unless the americans nuke the north koreans. but thats a different story. i dont think they really care about north korea because they are doing no harm. kim jon ill will die one day and i dont think he has any plans to invade japan or south korea soon. the americans just threaten them so the international community doesnt think that the agenda of bush is to wipe out islam.

RADIOACTIVE MAN
07-08-2006, 04:29 PM
^^^agreed

vikk
07-08-2006, 05:27 PM
we more then likly wii go to war so that would be three warz under bush he is the worst prez in the history of the u.s

dimi
07-08-2006, 05:39 PM
china wont fight against NK
they r both socialistic countries
china would probly do nothing or sell weapons to both sides

Edgar Erebus
07-08-2006, 05:42 PM
For heaven's sake DON'T MAKE NORTH KOREA FALL INTO CAPITALISM. Comrade Tito would turn in his grave.

Gawd
07-08-2006, 06:35 PM
mig fighter jets are as good if not better than the f-16's and f-18's. also there soviet tanks are known to be better than the abram tanks. another advantage is that the north koreans have a elite commando unit that is 500,000 in number. they are highly trained, and are much more dangerous than an iraqi with an AK. dont compare iraq with vietnam because the vietcongs were brave in fighting there war. the iraqi's are split and they are more interested in killing each other than attack the americans. and you must remember yes the americans do have technology and all these great new weapons but at the moment they are all in the middle east in use against the muslim extreamists. they cant go fight a war with one of the best armies in the world now because they will lose. unless the americans nuke the north koreans. but thats a different story. i dont think they really care about north korea because they are doing no harm. kim jon ill will die one day and i dont think he has any plans to invade japan or south korea soon. the americans just threaten them so the international community doesnt think that the agenda of bush is to wipe out islam.

9 Abrhams tanks and a dozen Bradleys destroyed two Elite Republican gaurd armor divisions ( 20 tanks , 40 apc's ) in 20 min in the 1st Gulf war. Russian Cold war shit is shit.....it is crap.

Where do you guys get off being scared of a large army? you all sound like women...tuck your sacks d00ds. In the 1st Gulf war we defeated the 4th Largest Army in the world in a matter of a few months. These guys have large armys because it is mandatory to serve.

Gawd
07-08-2006, 06:36 PM
china wont fight against NK
they r both socialistic countries
china would probly do nothing or sell weapons to both sides

China does not want a war in Korea for fear of millions of refugees pouring into China.

Gawd
07-08-2006, 06:37 PM
mig fighter jets are as good if not better than the f-16's and f-18's. also there soviet tanks are known to be better than the abram tanks. another advantage is that the north koreans have a elite commando unit that is 500,000 in number. they are highly trained, and are much more dangerous than an iraqi with an AK. dont compare iraq with vietnam because the vietcongs were brave in fighting there war. the iraqi's are split and they are more interested in killing each other than attack the americans. and you must remember yes the americans do have technology and all these great new weapons but at the moment they are all in the middle east in use against the muslim extreamists. they cant go fight a war with one of the best armies in the world now because they will lose. unless the americans nuke the north koreans. but thats a different story. i dont think they really care about north korea because they are doing no harm. kim jon ill will die one day and i dont think he has any plans to invade japan or south korea soon. the americans just threaten them so the international community doesnt think that the agenda of bush is to wipe out islam.

^ indoctrinated you are and who said North Korea had one of the best Militarys in the world? All those underfed soldiers hahahahahaha

TeknicelStylez
07-08-2006, 07:04 PM
I fear no man, I'd give my life in combat if someone ever threatened my homeland via invasion no matter how ill equipped I might be...

Nukes scare the shit out of me though

Dokuro
07-08-2006, 11:36 PM
this is one war that i would back we must remove kim tyrony

HANZO
07-09-2006, 05:24 PM
^ indoctrinated you are and who said North Korea had one of the best Militarys in the world? All those underfed soldiers hahahahahaha

who said the americans have the best army in the world????

republican guards used the russian T-55 tanks, and there best was the T-72. they are shit and served in the soviet army as ordinary infantry support tanks. the real russian tanks are the T-80's and T-90's. the north koreans have T-80's but im not sure that the russians would sell them the more elite models. Iraq is weak and always has been weak, they were at there strongest in the war with iran, they went into the 1st gulf was with a weakened armed force. the 2nd gulf war they just didnt have an army after years of sanctions and the fact that no one would sell them any weapons it was obvious that they didnt stand a chance. also invading iraq is easy as once you enter a shia and kurdish town they will show no resistance. in vietnam everyone showed resistance and this can also be true in north korea. the iraqi's had an army of 600,000, 100,000 of these were the trained republican guard, but they were ill-equiped. the rest were just normal men with no training reason why they put up no fight. the north koreans have a very well equiped highly trained and disciplined 2 million strong army. they have anti aircraft weapons and long range missiles. also the iraqi's only used the shitty left over soviet tanks and french mirage fighters. the north koreans actually have an army. it is very difficult to win a war in 3 weeks against a country which has an army.

Gawd
07-09-2006, 05:31 PM
who said the americans have the best army in the world???? Nobody. And not myself either if you go back an read my posts. kthx

republican guards used the russian T-55 tanks, and there best was the T-72. they are shit and served in the soviet army as ordinary infantry support tanks. the real russian tanks are the T-80's and T-90's. the north koreans have T-80's but im not sure that the russians would sell them the more elite models. Iraq is weak and always has been weak, they were at there strongest in the war with iran, they went into the 1st gulf was with a weakened armed force. the 2nd gulf war they just didnt have an army after years of sanctions and the fact that no one would sell them any weapons it was obvious that they didnt stand a chance. also invading iraq is easy as once you enter a shia and kurdish town they will show no resistance. in vietnam everyone showed resistance and this can also be true in north korea. the iraqi's had an army of 600,000, 100,000 of these were the trained republican guard, but they were ill-equiped. the rest were just normal men with no training reason why they put up no fight. the north koreans have a very well equiped highly trained and disciplined 2 million strong army. they have anti aircraft weapons and long range missiles. also the iraqi's only used the shitty left over soviet tanks and french mirage fighters. the north koreans actually have an army. it is very difficult to win a war in 3 weeks against a country which has an army.

Um we used less than half of our gulf war 1 fighting force in operation iraqi freedom. Less than half.

HANZO
07-09-2006, 05:39 PM
iraq had a bunch of peasents fighting, it wasnt an army at all. the americans rolled in there tanks and they went without any resistance straight to baghdad in less than a week the only thing stopping them were sand storms. going through the south of iraq was easy because there was no such thing as an army there. the north you have the kurds who dont do anything and actually turkey occupy the northern borders. the only army iraq had was in baghdad and they didnt put up much of a fight.

Prince Equality
07-10-2006, 02:50 AM
if u dont have the fukin balls to do what soldiers do then dont talk shit about them

do us all a favor an shut the fuck up and stop disrespecting the soldiers

your a closed minded fool

Man what the fuck are u talking abouT???

Those fucking soldiers of yours are killing innocent people! What's the glory in that? Huh? Plus why did they go to Iraq anyways??? You tell me that m'fucker!

I say it again.... FUCK AMERIKKKAN SOLDIERS! AND FUCK BUSH!

Prince Equality
07-10-2006, 02:52 AM
this is one war that i would back we must remove kim tyrony

Let's remove Bush first! How about that? The only threat on this planet is Bush! Not North Korea, not Iran, not Syria - get it!

Gawd
07-10-2006, 09:03 AM
Man what the fuck are u talking abouT???

Those fucking soldiers of yours are killing innocent people! What's the glory in that? Huh? Plus why did they go to Iraq anyways??? You tell me that m'fucker!

I say it again.... FUCK AMERIKKKAN SOLDIERS! AND FUCK BUSH!

Without American soldiers there might not be a YOU.

btw eat balls nigorkovski !!11

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkknl rox

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 09:23 AM
U.S. is scared of North Korea. They are "practicing" missle launches to scare us. America has been letting them get away with shit for years. Kinda like Iraq and the Middle East. It's only a logical amount of time before we finally do go to war with N. Korea, but soon? Not likely.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 10:07 AM
U.S. is scared of North Korea. They are "practicing" missle launches to scare us. America has been letting them get away with shit for years. Kinda like Iraq and the Middle East. It's only a logical amount of time before we finally do go to war with N. Korea, but soon? Not likely.

i would not say that our Government or Military is scared by North Korea.
i would say that they are most likely concerned with drawing other Nations in ( China ) into a all out war with North Korea.

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 10:13 AM
Good point but I'm glad you can see where I'm coming from. No doubt we would win, but man.. N. Korea is up there in weapons when it comes to all those missles.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 10:18 AM
Good point but I'm glad you can see where I'm coming from. No doubt we would win, but man.. N. Korea is up there in weapons when it comes to all those missles.

missles that explode before their intended target is reached?

please. they have a large military and cold war weapons with a few new ones here and there. When we fought there in the 50s we has the entire pennisula at 1 point. then human waves from China came running at our positions. we were pushed back.

lets say we take the pennisula and again the human waves come. we could destroy all the life in the waves by remote control hundreds of miles away. we have greater technology.

june181972
07-10-2006, 10:24 AM
Do you people remember when Operation Iraqi Freedom (O.I.F.) was Operation Iraqi Liberation? (O.I.L.) The U.S.A. changed that real quick when they noticed the acronym.

This North Korea thing is the game of chess at it's best and grandest scale.
Why did the U.S.A. go into Iraq? For Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?
Well we all know that was some straight up and down bullshit now.

North Korea called George Bush's bluff.
"W.M.D.s, we have em muthafucka what you gonna do?"
Nothing, because we don't have any oil, which is what you really want.
North Korea pushed that pawn to see what Bush would do with his bishop and knight.
Now it has been further confirmed for the whole world that Bush is full of shit.

That tough, "all guns blazing", talk that came from Bush's mouth at the beginning of the Iraqi war, has been toned down with talk of:
"we have to be patient" and "we have to think this through"
Now that the country in question is not abundant in "black gold"
(see the cover of Time Magazine: THE END OF COWBOY DIPLOMACY)

Bush said that North Korea has isolated itself from the rest of the world by launching these missles
I think North Korea further isolated the U.S.A. by proving that the Iraq war was always and only about oil.

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 10:25 AM
Yes and the funny thing is, you don't have any clue to as what North Korea really has and what their potential is. FOX NEWS may not be the best source to learn from. And the 50's was totally different times. My only understand of North Korea is that they have advanced, and in a BIG way.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 10:29 AM
Do you people remember when Operation Iraqi Freedom (O.I.F.) was Operation Iraqi Liberation? (O.I.L.) The U.S.A. changed that real quick when they noticed the acronym.

This North Korea thing is the game of chess at it's best and grandest scale.
Why did the U.S.A. go into Iraq? For Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?
Well we all know that was some straight up and down bullshit now.

North Korea called George Bush's bluff.
"W.M.D.s, we have em muthafucka what you gonna do?"
Nothing, because we don't have any oil, which is what you really want.
North Korea pushed that pawn to see what Bush would do with his bishop and knight.
Now it has been further confirmed for the whole world that Bush is full of shit.

That tough, "all guns blazing", talk that came from Bush's mouth at the beginning of the Iraqi war, has been toned down with talk of:
"we have to be patient" and "we have to think this through"
Now that the country in question is not abundant in "black gold"
(see the cover of Time Magazine: THE END OF COWBOY DIPLOMACY)

Bush said that North Korea has isolated itself from the rest of the world by launching these missles
I think North Korea further isolated the U.S.A. by proving that the Iraq war was always and only about oil.

everyone ....including you use oil and need oil and gas............Im glad the USA has Iraqs oil and not Saddam or his monkey sons.

Your not saying anything new

Gawd
07-10-2006, 10:32 AM
Yes and the funny thing is, you don't have any clue to as what North Korea really has and what their potential is. FOX NEWS may not be the best source to learn from. And the 50's was totally different times. My only understand of North Korea is that they have advanced, and in a BIG way.

I like how you assume that I watch or get any info from fox news.....I get my news from several places...liberal and conservitive.

This isnt the 50's your right. China may not even get involved militarily. I do not know what they have. But it is odd that my Government started warning every1 that NK was going to test a missle. Like a week later they fired 7.

And how would you know that NK has advanced in a big way? And what do you mean by that?

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 10:42 AM
Because evolution is a natural process and from the 50's to 06' everybody has advanced.

june181972
07-10-2006, 10:46 AM
everyone ....including you use oil and need oil and gas............Im glad the USA has Iraqs oil and not Saddam or his monkey sons.

Your not saying anything new

I can see why you call yourself the most devilish devil.
You are glad we are murdering people for oil?
You are an American patriot through and through, in its truest and most wicked form.

BTW, this blood for oil is not really benefitting you or me anyway, unless you are in Bush's, or Cheney's, or Rumsfeld's etc... last will and testament.

I was not trying to say anything new about the oil issue.
I was just pointing out this was a profound power play in International Politics on the part of North Korea.

Visionz
07-10-2006, 10:47 AM
CIA and the Bush family wants WW III. Japan is talking about attacking Korea now, so it looks like they may get their wish. All I can say is we really don't want to get China stirred up into the mix. That's when shit really hits the fan.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 10:59 AM
Because evolution is a natural process and from the 50's to 06' everybody has advanced.

Not so.......Though North Korea may have a few new missles. We ( the USA ) and even South Korea give food aid to North Korea. Now if they have advanced so much how come they cannot even feed their own ppl. It is known that Millions have starved to death in NK.

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 11:01 AM
Lol, look at Shawn Hannity over here.

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 11:03 AM
Now if they have advanced so much how come they cannot even feed their own ppl.

Because they don't want to.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 11:06 AM
I can see why you call yourself the most devilish devil. Can you?
You are glad we are murdering people for oil? No I am not. But the way we murder for oil is more humane than Saddam murdered for oil and control of irag and its ppl.
You are an American patriot through and through, in its truest and most wicked form. Now I didnt call you any names.

BTW, this blood for oil is not really benefitting you or me anyway, unless you are in Bush's, or Cheney's, or Rumsfeld's etc... last will and testament. I never said I benefited from it at all. read my posts. Kthx. I stated that I would rather my Country control the oil than Saddam or his sons. Also we now have a strategic position against Iran. Dont know if you have noticed or not buy Iran is dead between Afghanistan and Iraq. hmmmmmmmm.

I was not trying to say anything new about the oil issue.
I was just pointing out this was a profound power play in International Politics on the part of North Korea.

This is nothing new. NK has been doing shit like this since the early 90's. They obviously need some economic or more food aid and they will test missiles till some1 gives it to them. Talk about bully.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 11:07 AM
Because they don't want to.

Right. Starving your ppl keeps them in check. And then you have a huge intimidating military because the only way to eat is to join the government or the military.

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 11:10 AM
Exactly. You're learning something.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 11:13 AM
Exactly. You're learning something.



ftw is your problem?

Gawd
07-10-2006, 11:14 AM
Lol, look at Shawn Hannity over here.

look at way d00d has his head cocked up like he is trying to scare the camera..............

smile d00d. no one will think your ghey

Dirty Knowledge
07-10-2006, 11:19 AM
Oh Yea?!?!?! Well You Look Like An Ugly Will Ferrell Making An Ugly Face With White Hair So Take That D))dzer))z.

Visionz
07-10-2006, 12:35 PM
This is nothing new. NK has been doing shit like this since the early 90's. They obviously need some economic or more food aid and they will test missiles till some1 gives it to them. Talk about bully. How bout CIA operations we've been runnin since the 50's? You can't talk about a world bully and not include ourselves in the conversation. Most of the fucked up situations going on around the world is happening because of our own doing.

Aqueous Moon
07-10-2006, 02:27 PM
This whole thing with N. Korea reminded of the bold moves China is making with the China/Africa economic partnership that they established.

It seems very likely that N. Korea and China are working as allies against Amerikkka. And there is also the Russia factor.


"China and North Korea negotiated expanded trade agreements Ė very one-sided agreements because North Korea has nothing China needs," reports G2 Bulletin. "Meanwhile, Russia and North Korea prepared the new Friendship and Cooperation Treaty, and North Korea got greater access to Russian weaponry. In the context of those meetings and those agreements, North Korea hardly looks like a rogue state at all. It looks more like a significant component of a growing Russian-Chinese alliance."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31434

Aqueous Moon
07-10-2006, 02:42 PM
Do you people remember when Operation Iraqi Freedom (O.I.F.) was Operation Iraqi Liberation? (O.I.L.) The U.S.A. changed that real quick when they noticed the acronym.

This North Korea thing is the game of chess at it's best and grandest scale.
Why did the U.S.A. go into Iraq? For Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?
Well we all know that was some straight up and down bullshit now.

North Korea called George Bush's bluff.
"W.M.D.s, we have em muthafucka what you gonna do?"
Nothing, because we don't have any oil, which is what you really want.
North Korea pushed that pawn to see what Bush would do with his bishop and knight.
Now it has been further confirmed for the whole world that Bush is full of shit.

That tough, "all guns blazing", talk that came from Bush's mouth at the beginning of the Iraqi war, has been toned down with talk of:
"we have to be patient" and "we have to think this through"
Now that the country in question is not abundant in "black gold"
(see the cover of Time Magazine: THE END OF COWBOY DIPLOMACY)

Bush said that North Korea has isolated itself from the rest of the world by launching these missles
I think North Korea further isolated the U.S.A. by proving that the Iraq war was always and only about oil.

absolutely! Nice post.

HANZO
07-10-2006, 02:46 PM
the west dont give a shit about north korea, yes they do threaten them sometimes but they know that the north koreans wont be able to do anything. they could only invade south korea and thats just stupid because south korea have a lot of allies that would just bring them into war just like the 50's. north korea has only 2 friends thats russia and china. the country suffers from lack of energy so they would have a good point to create nuclear energy.

i dont think i like the idea of the americans controlling the oil in iraq, when saddam was controlling it, a barrel of oil was $25. now that the americans have control of it, its $75 a barrel. iraq is just a fuked up country and has always been like that since it was formed because the borders were drawn by the french and english and they really didnt give a shit about were the different peoples ended up. reason why there are soo many wars in the area.

with the russian china alliance, the russians have gone economically weak there military is not as good as it was in the soviet era. they alligned with china because the chinese have growing economical power, the deal is that the chinese trade with russia and the russians train the chinese army. because at the moment the chinese army is big but untrained. once they have a strong army a force with russia and china combined will be the new soviet union. the other power hungry nations are the europeans, the EU is growing and is no more a trade agreement relationship they to are looking to enlarge there army and economical power. though at the moment the EU still suffers from dis-unity with england, spain and italy on one side of every arguement and the french and germans on the other. all this needs is one of these countries to have a mad leader. america has bush and the guys already started 2 wars. i dont think the world like the idea of america being the sole super power.

june181972
07-10-2006, 05:05 PM
We "Americans" need to wake up. No one likes a bully

I put America in quotes because when we refer to ourselves as "Americans" we are being disrepectful to Canada, Mexico, the whole Western Hemisphere for that matter. (America is not a classification exclusuive to the U.S.A.)

The natural born arrogance and sense of entitlement that many "Americans"
have is getting played out on the global scene.

Don't be fooled by the propaganda that has been pounded into our heads since grade school.
Don't be blinded by the stars and stripes.

The world is watching, and they don't like what they see.

Gawd
07-10-2006, 05:56 PM
The world is watching, and they don't like what they see.


We are a Nation that gives more economic and food aid around the world more than any other Nation. And we meddle with other nations and such........Tell the world they can't have our steak and eat it too. Everything comes with a price.

june181972
07-10-2006, 08:59 PM
Everything comes with a price.

EXACTLY!

Prince Equality
07-12-2006, 06:25 AM
Without American soldiers there might not be a YOU.

btw eat balls nigorkovski !!11

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkknl rox

Damn, you are an ignorant SOB!

Gawd
07-12-2006, 11:13 AM
Damn, you are an ignorant SOB!

ok. sure.

june181972
07-12-2006, 11:21 AM
edbigghead,

Could you explain to me what humane, or "more" humane murder is?

Also, could you explain all the "aide" we give other nations while our national debt is well into the billions?

Gawd
07-12-2006, 11:28 AM
edbigghead,

Could you explain to me what humane, or "more" humane murder is?

Also, could you explain all the "aide" we give other nations while our national debt is well into the billions?

Are you kidding me? 1st off it was announced yesterday that the deficit is projected to be cut by a 3rd by the end of the year. also just because we have a deficit does not mean we do not give economic and food aid to various Nations around the world.

We give millions to Mexico and many other South American Nations. We give food aid to North Korea amd many more Nations.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/66060.htm

http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/000853.html

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/0711BudgetDeficit11-ON.html

Gawd
07-12-2006, 11:30 AM
Could you explain to me what humane, or "more" humane murder is

The way we kill ppl vs the way saddam killed ppl.

Surely youve seen saddam torture vids.....

Longbongcilvaringz
07-12-2006, 11:42 AM
hm, yeah the americans are such civilised people.

Visionz
07-12-2006, 11:44 AM
Ed did you vote for Bush?

Dirty Knowledge
07-12-2006, 11:47 AM
Ed was watching Rocco's Modern Life 5 years ago.

june181972
07-12-2006, 12:20 PM
[B][SIZE=3][COLOR=white]Are you kidding me? 1st off it was announced yesterday that the deficit is projected to be cut by a 3rd by the end of the year. also just because we have a deficit does not mean we do not give economic and food aid to various Nations around the world.

Actually, I was not kidding.

I simply thought that debt was really debt.
I was asking you, seriously, how we can give away so much but yet still be in debt?
You know, laymen's terms
What is, or is there, an International equivalent to the repo man or the lone shark breaking your fingers?

I did know the debt was reduced, (6:30 pm news) but it is still well in to the billions.

Gawd
07-12-2006, 01:24 PM
hm, yeah the americans are such civilised people.

Has nothing to do with the discussion.

Gawd
07-12-2006, 01:25 PM
Ed did you vote for Bush?

I did not vote. And it is really none of anyones buisness who voted for who.

Gawd
07-12-2006, 01:26 PM
Ed was watching Rocco's Modern Life 5 years ago.

You were jerking off 5 min ago. And what does someone watching Rockos Modern life have anything to do with the topic at hand.

Besides you must of too because you know about the show and it's characters. Does that fact make all of your arguements and statements irellevant and untrue?

Gawd
07-12-2006, 01:28 PM
Actually, I was not kidding.

I simply thought that debt was really debt.
I was asking you, seriously, how we can give away so much but yet still be in debt?
You know, laymen's terms
What is, or is there, an International equivalent to the repo man or the lone shark breaking your fingers?

I did know the debt was reduced, (6:30 pm news) but it is still well in to the billions.

The debt is projected to be reduced by a third by the end of the year. The article says that the taxing of the wealthy and corperations helped fuel the reduction. And azcentral is a left leaning entity.

Visionz
07-12-2006, 04:15 PM
Bush himself was to trumpet the good news, attributing the improvement to tax cuts he pushed in 2001 and 2003 and his clampdown on domestic agencies funded by Congress.

However, the results are less impressive when compared to the $318 billion deficit posted last fall for fiscal 2005. Despite strong revenues, the high costs of the Iraq war and Gulf Coast hurricane relief have weighed on the deficit - as have higher interest payments paid on the national debt.




Clearly, the President's deficit reduction efforts have paid off. The deficit fell from $290 billion in 1992 to $22 billion in 1997, and by nearly 95 percent as a share of GDP, to 0.3 percent.


So under Bush the federal deficit has ballooned to astronomical figures and we're supposed to be giving him a pat on the back because now its "ONLY" around $250 billion? And don't come back with talk of how its because of the war. That war is a completely unneccessary one for causes that have never been substantiated for the simple fact that the causes have never existed.

HANZO
07-12-2006, 04:53 PM
i think we can agree that bush is a shit president the guy hasnt done anything to benefit america.

Knowledged
07-12-2006, 06:16 PM
I think you people should take into consideration that he's making money off the war. Like through Carlyle one of the world's largest defense contractors, which he had to leave and gave his position to his dad when he became president. But the war is pretty much a distraction so that you are all focused on the deaths while he's taking away your freedoms. People get too focused on certain issues like the war that you forget that he's not that far off from Hitler. During the debates last year, he admitted that there was no weapons of mass destruction. Throughout his whole he's been quoted of saying he would like to be a dictator. I mean when the soldiers commit war crime like Abu Grahib or how he tortures victims in Guatanomo Bay, Donald Rumsfeld never suffered or lost his job neither has Bush. It's pretty obvious by now that he rigged both elections, he lied to congress and the american people about WMD's, plus the war crimes, and the illegal wiretapping. All of those are constituitional reasons to be impeached yet you hear little about it on the television. In my opinion, I doubt it matters much to ya, but we should impeach him instead of saying how much of a dick he really is and letting him continue.

Sicka than aidZ
07-12-2006, 06:23 PM
we have a huge population problem, we have to die cuz the world is at the end of its time.

Gawd
07-12-2006, 06:23 PM
I think you people should take into consideration that he's making money off the war. Like through Carlyle one of the world's largest defense contractors, which he had to leave and gave his position to his dad when he became president. But the war is pretty much a distraction so that you are all focused on the deaths while he's taking away your freedoms. People get too focused on certain issues like the war that you forget that he's not that far off from Hitler. During the debates last year, he admitted that there was no weapons of mass destruction. Throughout his whole he's been quoted of saying he would like to be a dictator. I mean when the soldiers commit war crime like Abu Grahib or how he tortures victims in Guatanomo Bay, Donald Rumsfeld never suffered or lost his job neither has Bush. It's pretty obvious by now that he rigged both elections, he lied to congress and the american people about WMD's, plus the war crimes, and the illegal wiretapping. All of those are constituitional reasons to be impeached yet you hear little about it on the television. In my opinion, I doubt it matters much to ya, but we should impeach him instead of saying how much of a dick he really is and letting him continue.

You have some valid points and I respect that. I want to talk about Abu Grahib. Now our soldiers did do things that they were ordered to do. They should know right from wrong yes. But we really didnt tortue anyone there. We used scare tactics. We scared them. Now the public outcry was tremenedous througout the world. But even in those other Nations that were talking shit, they torture normal prisoners. Not to mention where is all the Muslim outcry about suiced bombers who target civilians. Where is all the Muslim outcry for the shia and sunnis who are slaughtering each other in Iraq. THe Muslims only bitch and moan about atrocities commeted by the Israelis, Russian, Indians, and American coalition forces in Iraq, You never see clerics denounceing suicide attacks and shit like that.

Visionz
07-12-2006, 06:29 PM
^there's a chance that at least some of those bombers are really false flags.....I'll post more later, I'm off to go work out.

hidden ninja
07-12-2006, 06:55 PM
It seems like everyone is trying to go to war right now.

Gawd
07-12-2006, 06:56 PM
It seems like everyone is trying to go to war right now.

Israel is in Southern Lebanon right now. Hezbollah captured 2 iIsraeli soldiers last night.

Frontal Lobotomy
07-12-2006, 07:00 PM
I worry more about Israel's intentions than North Korea's. They got money, an arsenal, and America in their pocket. Quite the platform to attack whoever you feel like and get away with it.

Gawd
07-12-2006, 07:02 PM
I worry more about Israel's intentions than North Korea's. They got money, an arsenal, and America in their pocket. Quite the platform to attack whoever you feel like and get away with it.

Israel is always getting provoked. If you mess with the bull you get the horns.

I would not say that the USA is in Israels pockett. We are allies. We did not creat the Israeli state nor have we attackes Iran, Syria, or Lebanon.

Frontal Lobotomy
07-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Hm, i'm not so sure. They shit on the palestinian people when they both have rights to that land. And seem to want to mount their own 'jihad' on the Arab world. Pointing nukes is never cool, specially at a country that's only in the initial stages of forming a nuclear power program, let alone forming a stockpile or warheads to 'defend' themselves. America shouldn't be fanning the flames anyway, dumb rednecks always looking to make a fast buck.

Knowledged
07-12-2006, 07:19 PM
I look at it like this. Take it how you want. We went to war against Iraq because of "WMD's". Fine, mr. Saddam has all this weapons of mass destruction,he's gonna kill us all because he's so anti-american, there's a fetus and he's a hitler,and he's been blowing Osama so he must be involved, lets kill him. So, couple weeks in Iraq. Hmm Saddam hasn't used the nukes yet. Well maybe he's saving the fire works till the end. He's running away and hiding? Why doesn't he use his nukes to kill us off, he sure doesn't care about his people cause he's a mass murderous lunatic, why not just nuke the americans since he hates us so much? Oh, he doesn't have any, I see. So why are we in there again? O its not cause of WMDs, its cause of 9/11. Oh, New York Times reported the terrorist were from Afghanistan and had no connection to Saddam. Well that seems pretty weird, o I was wrong its not cause of WMD's or 9/11 its cause we're liberating these innocent people, damn liberal media always destroying our president's credibility. We must liberate these people, to a nation that once accepted western religion, to a closeminded nation who's religion divides them. Yes, that's the american thing to do. We have to put them in jails, and bomb them too, shoot children in the skull to keep the stronger at bay. We use du missles to make sure that they'll become weak. We'll destroy their water supplies, we won't stop their riots, because americans are liberators, not regulators. We take pictures of them blowing each other, and say God bless them. We take pictures of them having them getting bit by dogs, then we dance around our flag. Yes, America is the country ever.

If the sarcasm hasn't pissed you, I don't know what will, it even pissed me off. But nonetheless, America says Saddam killed thousands in torture chambers, I've got news for you, America's done the same. Everytime there's a leak about one of Bush's crimes, he's pissed and wants to fire everyone. We are at war because some 3000 people died on 9/11. More people die in car accidents, more people die of aids, Bush hasn't done shit for either. If 9/11 was really a terrorist aided tragedy, we would have closed all the borders for weeks, because thats where the terrorist came from. Canada. But hey, let these mexicans be patrolled without guns, meanwhile my protests rallies and my subways have police with ak47s and attack dogs. If Al-Quaida was an actual evil organization, we would be suffering worse tragedies than Israel. Israel has had 50 years worth of tighter security than us, they know how to protect themselves but even bombings pull through. America is filled with fat unaware civiliains who trust their government, we should be being bombed everyday with that type of mentality. You've never heard of a car bomb going off in front of the white house. I mean Timothy McVeigh did a car bombing far away, and blew a building to kingdom come."Supposedly". So why can't these terrorist do it. Even he was whjte, and was in the amry. No war on white guys was ever committed, instead they took away our guns. In the WTC bombing of 93. The egyptian guy was paid by the government to commit those acts and he had tape recordings of those conversations. The New York Times reported shortly and never was mention again. There's no such thing as terrorism besides what Bush commits. Bush has aided the definition of terrorism more than anyone in existance, he's scared an entire world into thinking death is eminent so thats why we need to pre-emptively bomb each other to prevent death. I'm probably going to get blasted at from all sides by saying most of these things, but it can all be proven, just pick up a newspaper.


P.S. North Korea has hated us for years and they have WMD's, why haven't we gone against them instead of Iraq. But hey, keep believing arabs are terrorists. Just like the supposed London bomber who was caught was actually just Brazillian.

HANZO
07-13-2006, 04:39 PM
Israel is always getting provoked. If you mess with the bull you get the horns.

I would not say that the USA is in Israels pockett. We are allies. We did not creat the Israeli state nor have we attackes Iran, Syria, or Lebanon.

yes isreal is getting provoked, after they invaded lebanon, again illegally. they went into lebanon and then the 2 soldiers got captured. and now they blockaded lebanon entirely. they have occupied palestine for years, they occupied lebanon since the 70's. they regularly bomb the syrian border. the other day they flew their fighter jets other the house of the syrian president. there army backed by the west and i sadly say that most of there tanks missiles and weapons are from turkey, as we sell the shit to them. isreal being there is provokation for all the other countries, to be honest that country didnt exist 100 years ago, the land aint even their's. the french and english put it their after stealing it from the ottoman empire. if isreal dont charge their tanks at the borders of all their neigbouring countries they wouldnt get attacked. they are fuking up the middle east, the lebanese ppl dont deserved to be bombed for another generation. none of them start a war with isreal as the isreali military is far more advanced than any of its neighbours, lebanon, syria, egypt and jordan dont stand a chance, i doubt neither iran will.
im probably sounding like a radical muslim, but its true isreal is the cause of the middle east being fuked up. the entire middle east is fuked up because the borders were drawn incorrectly by france and england. they just got a ruler and drew some lines. i got an italian friend who always says, there was no point to the crusades, look who won, not the muslims, not the christians but the jews.

Gawd
07-13-2006, 04:44 PM
yes isreal is getting provoked, after they invaded lebanon, again illegally. they went into lebanon and then the 2 soldiers got captured. and now they blockaded lebanon entirely. they have occupied palestine for years, they occupied lebanon since the 70's. they regularly bomb the syrian border. the other day they flew their fighter jets other the house of the syrian president. there army backed by the west and i sadly say that most of there tanks missiles and weapons are from turkey, as we sell the shit to them. isreal being there is provokation for all the other countries, to be honest that country didnt exist 100 years ago, the land aint even their's. the french and english put it their after stealing it from the ottoman empire. if isreal dont charge their tanks at the borders of all their neigbouring countries they wouldnt get attacked. they are fuking up the middle east, the lebanese ppl dont deserved to be bombed for another generation. none of them start a war with isreal as the isreali military is far more advanced than any of its neighbours, lebanon, syria, egypt and jordan dont stand a chance, i doubt neither iran will.
im probably sounding like a radical muslim, but its true isreal is the cause of the middle east being fuked up. the entire middle east is fuked up because the borders were drawn incorrectly by france and england. they just got a ruler and drew some lines. i got an italian friend who always says, there was no point to the crusades, look who won, not the muslims, not the christians but the jews.

Your arguement is nonsense. Lebanon allows hezbollah to operate in Lebanon. The Lebanese Gov is just as responsible for those captured Israeli soldiers as Hezbollah is. Hezbollah has poiticians in the lebanese Gov.

HANZO
07-13-2006, 04:58 PM
isreali's raided the lebanese borders and then hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers. isreal just goea around invading whoever they want. you think thats right, north korea launch missiles to the sea and the world goes crazy, there are claims that Iran are creating nuclear power, and they are going to the UN security council. Isreal have nukes, they occupy palestinian land. they pursue consistent acts of war against, egypt, jordan, syria and lebanon by bombing there borders every other week. now they occupy lebanon with a stupid reason, and they have blockaded lebanon, this means the lebanese people cant go no were food and aid is cut out of the country.

Gawd
07-13-2006, 07:25 PM
isreali's raided the lebanese borders and then hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers. isreal just goea around invading whoever they want. you think thats right, north korea launch missiles to the sea and the world goes crazy, there are claims that Iran are creating nuclear power, and they are going to the UN security council. Isreal have nukes, they occupy palestinian land. they pursue consistent acts of war against, egypt, jordan, syria and lebanon by bombing there borders every other week. now they occupy lebanon with a stupid reason, and they have blockaded lebanon, this means the lebanese people cant go no were food and aid is cut out of the country.

Wrong. Read the stories again. That Israeli unit was inside Israel when Hezbollah attacked them. They even said they kidnapped them to force Israel to release prisoners that Hamas demanded.

Saudi Arabia even came out today and said Hezbollah was to blame for the recent events.

BTW they are not occupying Lebanon.

Prince Equality
07-14-2006, 05:10 AM
^^ I just hope that israel will seize to exist. FREE PALESTINE!!!

Gawd
07-14-2006, 09:47 AM
^^ I just hope that israel will seize to exist. FREE PALESTINE!!!


Why? Palestine was never a Nation. If Hamas was not voted into power this probably would not be happening now. Abbas and the Israelis were making great progress. Then hamas fucked it all up.

HANZO
07-14-2006, 05:18 PM
Wrong. Read the stories again. That Israeli unit was inside Israel when Hezbollah attacked them. They even said they kidnapped them to force Israel to release prisoners that Hamas demanded.

Saudi Arabia even came out today and said Hezbollah was to blame for the recent events.

BTW they are not occupying Lebanon.

dont listen to the saudi's they are traitor bastards who are only worrying about what colour rolls royce they will buy next. isreal are occupying lebanon at the moment isreali tanks are on the borders, isreal occupy egypt and jordan as well. but they keep there mouths shut because they cant do shit against the isreali military power. theres a lot of shit that happens in the middle east that the western media wont touch up on.

and palestine was is a nation formed when the land was split palestinians lived in the area but after the land was taken away from the ottomans the english and french split it so they created isreal and put the palestinians in jerusalem. the people who lived in those areas before world war one were the palestinians, no isrealis were around there was no such nation.

100pr00f
07-14-2006, 10:20 PM
nk...no need to worry usa wont jump in its not are war unless shit happens

most of the world is aganst nk. were just another country voicing out
if shit go's down it will be the japs and sk fighting
they cant hit the us. we have a defnce sytem that shoots down missels

they can only reach japan
they have a big army but its not big enuff for the worlds army
we have aircrafts that fly to high and to fast to be hit
and with subs that can shoot from 100 miles nk...well just get bombed the fuck outr of and only peeps they can attack are japan
....
only thing we have to worry is russia ...
but still to many enemeys for them

with how every thing is going tho ..it looks like ww3 is in the making
with IS. and LIb. fighting and with iran down thier backs for syera
also iran is in the pic with nukes
with the same as Nk

shit could go down

thier will be alot of wars going on
with us as in the usa will have to jump in for IS if iran jumps in
and the same for the Nk war that is brewing
..ive been watching this shit for days

and i see it building
with in a year or some

this shit will be out of hand
with crazy mother fuckers owning nukes
the world aint gonna be able to take all that force

every body will suffer

Gawd
07-14-2006, 10:39 PM
dont listen to the saudi's they are traitor bastards who are only worrying about what colour rolls royce they will buy next. isreal are occupying lebanon at the moment isreali tanks are on the borders, isreal occupy egypt and jordan as well. but they keep there mouths shut because they cant do shit against the isreali military power. theres a lot of shit that happens in the middle east that the western media wont touch up on.

and palestine was is a nation formed when the land was split palestinians lived in the area but after the land was taken away from the ottomans the english and french split it so they created isreal and put the palestinians in jerusalem. the people who lived in those areas before world war one were the palestinians, no isrealis were around there was no such nation.

israel is NOT occupying Lebanon or Jordan. They have no gound forces in Lebanon and therefore are not occupying.

The saudis may be traitors in your eyes but they have peace and stability.

100pr00f
07-15-2006, 06:29 AM
israel has tanks inside the boarders
also usa has 25,000 troops inside lebanon..but that was befor this all started they are trying to get out....with ather small countrys jumping in shit is geting bad..but i do gotta say isral got better fire power
they are killing thier targets


but lebanon is just killing cilvilions..they havnt killed no troops yet just like 10 cilvilions

hidden ninja
07-15-2006, 09:36 AM
israel has tanks inside the boarders
also usa has 25,000 troops inside lebanon..but that was befor this all started they are trying to get out....with ather small countrys jumping in shit is geting bad..but i do gotta say isral got better fire power
they are killing thier targets


but lebanon is just killing cilvilions..they havnt killed no troops yet just like 10 cilvilionsthat 25,000 thousand also includes American citizens who are living in/traveling to Lebanon.

but you're right, and Isreal's chances get smaller if you add in more countries (like Iran). this will get very ugly.

100pr00f
07-15-2006, 06:40 PM
yep...thats what i ment to say not just troops..

dont have to worry about russia now cuz bush had a talk wit them about Nk
and china the allys of Nk are gonna have a talk to Nk about thier nuke prograg to see if they can work things out..i dont think china will jump in cuz they get alot of cash from the usa
haha

peace

PLO-Stylez
07-15-2006, 07:50 PM
Man what the fuck are u talking abouT???

Those fucking soldiers of yours are killing innocent people! What's the glory in that? Huh? Plus why did they go to Iraq anyways??? You tell me that m'fucker!

I say it again.... FUCK AMERIKKKAN SOLDIERS! AND FUCK BUSH!

Innocent ppl die thats sad but tell me a war when they havent say what u want about Bush i dont agree with most of the shit he do anyway but dont say nothin bad about the soldiers

If u give me a war that inocent ppl didnt die then i will shut up but dont act like our soldiers go around targeting inocent ppl for no fuckin reason.
They went to war in the first place because of the WMD thing that turned out to be BS thank you GW. but also use ur bleediing heart of inocent ppl and look at all the massacres Sadam did on his own ppl over 300,000 ppl killed. Genocide ever hear of that? The civilian dead in Iraq is no where near that number, not even close.

PLO-Stylez
07-15-2006, 08:08 PM
This is for edbigghead just to show u North Korea isnt that big a joke i have no doubt they would lose in a war against the US but here are some things i have read...

Speculation (war scenario)
http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/1227.html

This is not a scenario but just facts that show upsides and down of NKorea
http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers/501030224/army.html

http://www.kimsoft.com/2003/nk-war-han.htm

born invincible
07-15-2006, 09:08 PM
P.S. North Korea has hated us for years and they have WMD's, why haven't we gone against them instead of Iraq.


word.... ive been screamin that shit for years... mainly cause north korea said if we do.. hes gonna drop the thermal nuclear hammer on our ass.

Gawd
07-15-2006, 09:52 PM
word.... ive been screamin that shit for years... mainly cause north korea said if we do.. hes gonna drop the thermal nuclear hammer on our ass.
And if we fought a war against NK ppl would still be whinning and crying. WE ARE DAMNED IF WE DO AND DAMNED IF WE DONT. Its like the ppl that hate cops. But when they are in trouble or scared they have problem picking up that phone and calling for the cops to come to the rescue.

GENERAL WISE
07-15-2006, 10:54 PM
israel has tanks inside the boarders
also usa has 25,000 troops inside lebanon..but that was befor this all started they are trying to get out....with ather small countrys jumping in shit is geting bad..but i do gotta say isral got better fire power
they are killing thier targets


but lebanon is just killing cilvilions..they havnt killed no troops yet just like 10 cilvilions
israel has caused 85 civilians deaths in Lebanon and MUCH infrastructure damage to Lebonon
Hezbollah has cause around 17 deaths 8 of which where civilians and a israeli warship (with an Iranian anti-ship rocket)

So you can't say Hez is just killing civilians (although they don't care who they kill <poor cambodian merchant ship>)

Israel has cause more civilian casualties BUT how will they differentiate who is terrorist and who is civilian?

Sooo, in some sense you are correct but in another you are wrong.

GENERAL WISE
07-15-2006, 10:57 PM
And the N. Korea situation... U.S can't afford it because S. Korea is going to get attacked and with so many U.S troops there its gona have bad effects

Gawd
07-16-2006, 01:56 AM
israel has caused 85 civilians deaths in Lebanon and MUCH infrastructure damage to Lebonon
Hezbollah has cause around 17 deaths 8 of which where civilians and a israeli warship (with an Iranian anti-ship rocket)

So you can't say Hez is just killing civilians (although they don't care who they kill <poor cambodian merchant ship>)

Israel has cause more civilian casualties BUT how will they differentiate who is terrorist and who is civilian?

Sooo, in some sense you are correct but in another you are wrong.

ok? Hezbollah's cross border raid into Israel resulting in 8 israeli soldiers deaths and 2 captured, killed those ppl in Lebanon. Civilians die in every armed conflict.

Gawd
07-16-2006, 01:57 AM
And the N. Korea situation... U.S can't afford it because S. Korea is going to get attacked and with so many U.S troops there its gona have bad effects

You have no idea what yo are talking about. this sound like the same recycled junk that 5th graders produce in art class.

The north korean military and economy is shit compared to ours. they will fall.

GENERAL WISE
07-16-2006, 03:20 AM
You have no idea what yo are talking about. this sound like the same recycled junk that 5th graders produce in art class.

The north korean military and economy is shit compared to ours. they will fall.
come on.
U.S spends more than the next 20 nations combined on its military
no one is saying U.S will lose
but what about their position in Iraq?
what about their position in Iran?
how are they goiing to mobilize a war in N.Korea and let Iran run its course as it wills. Japan and S. Korea are key allies and trading partners with the U.S and that trade will be cut off. What about China? China sees that the u.S is hurting one of its allies so it will rebuke and attack taiwan, a u.s ally.
It would put the U.S in a postion they don't WANT TO BE IN BECAUSE OF WORLD OPINION and because of their interests.
U.S doesn't give two shits about world stability/israel/any other "friend" if it doesn't further U.S interests.

While this is going on Russia is gonna trade and further its economy off selling resources to the warring nations who are using total war tactics.

THis is not the best or worst case scenario.


You lost fatass.

100pr00f
07-16-2006, 08:03 AM
china dosnt want to jump in..they wanna have a meet with NK about the thier nuke situation
they want them to stop...like russia
we had a meet with them
and they aint gonna jump in they know Nk is wrong

Gawd
07-16-2006, 10:18 AM
come on.
U.S spends more than the next 20 nations combined on its military
no one is saying U.S will lose
but what about their position in Iraq?
what about their position in Iran?
how are they goiing to mobilize a war in N.Korea and let Iran run its course as it wills. Japan and S. Korea are key allies and trading partners with the U.S and that trade will be cut off. What about China? China sees that the u.S is hurting one of its allies so it will rebuke and attack taiwan, a u.s ally.
It would put the U.S in a postion they don't WANT TO BE IN BECAUSE OF WORLD OPINION and because of their interests.
U.S doesn't give two shits about world stability/israel/any other "friend" if it doesn't further U.S interests.

While this is going on Russia is gonna trade and further its economy off selling resources to the warring nations who are using total war tactics.

THis is not the best or worst case scenario.


You lost fatass.

is that why you were banned? who lost now. yes. you.


now as for your statement above your 7yr old girly insult. you have no idea what you are talking about.

100pr00f
07-16-2006, 10:36 AM
come on guys..lets just talk this out..not throw neg..words at each other

were not at were whole nations are

HANZO
07-16-2006, 12:57 PM
You have no idea what yo are talking about. this sound like the same recycled junk that 5th graders produce in art class.

The north korean military and economy is shit compared to ours. they will fall.

theres plenty of examples were a better economy and military didnt win the war. when the soviets invaded afghanistan they lost because of tactical errors. same with world war 2, the german war machine was soo much better than its opponents, german technology was soo far ahead, but tactical errors cost them. america may have control of iraq but has the fighting stopped. there suprerior economy and military power is useless against guerilla style warfare. the americans are still stuggling to beat of a bunch of farmers with AK's. there adaptability is poor the americans prefer to fight there style of warfare everywere, weaken with fighter jets, roll the tanks in who are supported by infantry. this didnt work in vietnam, and aint working against al-queda.

Aqueous Moon
07-16-2006, 02:33 PM
Hezbollah may sabotage essential
river water to Israel

Water is one of the most important natural resources in the
Middle East and without it, Zionist Israel would soon
perish. The vast majority of the water Israel uses to
survive actually has sources in Lebanon and Syria. The
current Zionist hostilities in the region has placed Israel
in a very vulnerable position.

Israel is largely dependent on fresh water from the "Sea of
Galilee" otherwise known as Lake Kinneret. The Wazzani
River, in Lebanon, is the main source of the Hatzbani
River, which contributes over 25% of the Jordan River's
water. The Jordan River is the principal source of Lake
Kinneret which supplies over 50% of Israelís water.

Well placed explosives to divert the Wazzani River would
place Zionist Israel in a very precarious situation. Middle
East experts have for a long time pointed to this Israeli
"Achilles Heel". Will Hezbollah strike at Israel's essential
water supplies? The current ship embargo placed
on Lebanon by Israel has the potential to push Hezbollah
to undertake such a strategy.

Hezbollah has become increasingly sophisticated in the use
of advanced weapons, as exemplified by yesterday's
destruction of the Israeli naval war ship off the coast of
Lebanon by a "guided" missile or drone. It looks like
Zionist Israel is getting into a dangerous quagmire as the
US is in Iraq. Are we witnessing the final eradication of
Zionist Israel from the Holy Land? Only time will tell!
http://www.aztlan.net/

I recieved this article from one of my favorite sites...I just thought it was interesting info on a possible strategic move against Isreal.

GENERAL WISE
07-16-2006, 04:51 PM
Hezbollah may sabotage essential
river water to Israel

Water is one of the most important natural resources in the
Middle East and without it, Zionist Israel would soon
perish. The vast majority of the water Israel uses to
survive actually has sources in Lebanon and Syria. The
current Zionist hostilities in the region has placed Israel
in a very vulnerable position.

Israel is largely dependent on fresh water from the "Sea of
Galilee" otherwise known as Lake Kinneret. The Wazzani
River, in Lebanon, is the main source of the Hatzbani
River, which contributes over 25% of the Jordan River's
water. The Jordan River is the principal source of Lake
Kinneret which supplies over 50% of Israelís water.

Well placed explosives to divert the Wazzani River would
place Zionist Israel in a very precarious situation. Middle
East experts have for a long time pointed to this Israeli
"Achilles Heel". Will Hezbollah strike at Israel's essential
water supplies? The current ship embargo placed
on Lebanon by Israel has the potential to push Hezbollah
to undertake such a strategy.

Hezbollah has become increasingly sophisticated in the use
of advanced weapons, as exemplified by yesterday's
destruction of the Israeli naval war ship off the coast of
Lebanon by a "guided" missile or drone. It looks like
Zionist Israel is getting into a dangerous quagmire as the
US is in Iraq. Are we witnessing the final eradication of
Zionist Israel from the Holy Land? Only time will tell!
http://www.aztlan.net/

I recieved this article from one of my favorite sites...I just thought it was interesting info on a possible strategic move against Isreal.

you are thinking like a terrorist

Aqueous Moon
07-16-2006, 04:56 PM
lol...how so?