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Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 01:15 AM
From the G8 Summit 2000 in Okinawa
Masaaki Kimura, a professor at the University of the Ryukyus answered what he thinks of the undersea structure based on the latest findings.

"It's a true undersea ruin", said Mr. Kimura, who is a leading Japanese marine geologist who studies undersea ruins.

In the interview, Mr. Kimura was asked the following points; if the ruins were artificial, and what time period they were built.

He replied, "These are ruins, and to me, the fact has already been proved. Scientific conclusion is that the ruins are indeed artificial. A school of Japanese marine geologists agreed on the outcome. We found that the ruins are at least 6000 years old. It could go back another 4000 years when we consider the length of time before they sunk into the water."
Okinawa was once connected to the Chinese continent. The geologic chronology shows that the area in Yonaguni was already underwater 6000 years ago. Mr. Kimura says that when they try to figure out the time period the ruins were built, the estimate is about 10,000 years ago.

Drills we use to investigate ruins have improved recently, so with the help of the latest equipment, we will have a scientific conclusion on this matter in the near future."

It was the Stone Age 10,000 years ago, primitive people lived and hunted then. The advanced Egyptian civilization was formed after this. Was there another civilization before that?

Mr. Kimura replied, "Reviewing chronology in history should be left to the archaeologists and historians, and even though there is scientific evidence to explain the ruins, it might be difficult to come to an agreement with the archaeologists, because doing so changes history."

"The historians say that such a fact can not be true. We found the ruins, so they should see it for themselves, or at least they should study the data I collected."
Mr. Kimura says it might be just a matter of time before the historians start investigating. He is confident that there is a sunken civilization.
http://members.tripod.com/underwater_pyramids

This is very good info cus there is something called the 6000 year barrier in modern history.

These so-called scientists seem to draw a blank when it comes to acknowledging any kind of advanced civilization that exsited prior to 6000 years.....

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 01:21 AM
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One would imagine that such a mind-boggling find would be the most exciting piece of news an archaeologist could possibly hope to learn. Even so, outside of the “Ancient American” and CNN’s single report, the pall of silence covering all the facts about Okinawa’s structures screens them from view more effectively then their location at the bottom of the sea. Why? How can this appalling neglect persist in the face of a discovery of such unparalleled magnitude? At the risk of accusations of paranoia, one might conclude that a real conspiracy of managed information dominates America’s well-springs of public knowledge.

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 01:30 AM
Divers Find World's Oldest Building
by Trushar Barot

A STRUCTURE thought to be the world's oldest building, nearly twice the age of the great pyramids of Egypt, has been discovered. The rectangular stone ziggurat under the sea off the coast of Japan could be the first evidence of a previously unknown Stone Age civilisation, say archeologists.

The monument is 600ft wide and 90ft high and has been dated to at least 8000BC. The oldest pyramid in Egypt, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara, was constructed more than 5,000 years later.

The structure off Yonaguni, a small island southwest of Okinawa, was first discovered 75ft underwater by scuba divers 10 years ago and locals believed it was a natural phenomenon.

Professor Masaki Kimura, a geologist at Ryukyu University in Okinawa, was the first scientist to investigate the site and has concluded that the mysterious five-layer structure was man-made.

"The object has not been manufactured by nature. If that had been the case, one would expect debris from erosion to have collected around the site, but there are no rock fragments there," he said.
The discovery of what appears to be a road surrounding the building was further evidence that the structure was made by humans, he added.

Robert Schoch, professor of geology at Boston University, dived at the site last month. "It basically looks like a series of huge steps, each about a metre high. Essentially, it's a cliff face like the side of a stepped pyramid. It's a very interesting structure," he said. "It's possible that natural water erosion combined with the process of cracked rocks splitting created such a structure, but I haven't come across such processes creating a structure as sharp as this."

Further evidence that the structure is the work of humans came with the discovery of smaller underwater stone mounds nearby. Like the main building, these mini-ziggurats are made of stepped slabs and are about 10m wide and 2m high.

Kimura said it was too early to know who built the monument or its purpose. "The structure could be an ancient religious shrine, possibly celebrating an ancient deity resembling the god Nirai-Kanai, whom locals say gave happiness to the people of Okinawa from beyond the sea. This could be evidence of a new culture as there are no records of a people intelligent enough to have built such a monument 10,000 years ago," he said.

"This could only have been done by a people with a high degree of technology, probably coming from the Asian continent, where the oldest civilisations originate. There would have to have been some sort of machinery involved to have created such a huge structure."

Teruaki Ishii, professor of geology at Tokyo University, said the structure dated back to at least 8000BC when the land on which it was constructed was submerged at the end of the last ice age. "I hope this site is artificial as it would be very exciting. But at this time I feel it is too early to say. I think the structure could be natural, but part of it may have been made," he said.

The first signs of civilisation in Japan are traced to the Neolithic period around 9000BC. The people at this time lived as hunters and food- gatherers. There is nothing in the archeological record to suggest the presence of a culture advanced enough to have built a structure like the ziggurat.

British archeologists are, however, cautiously enthusiastic about the discovery which will be featured this summer in a Channel 4 documentary.
Jim Mower, an archeologist at University College London, said: "If it is confirmed that the site is as old as 10,000 years and is man-made, then this is going to change an awful lot of the previous thinking on southeast Asian history. It would put the people who made the monument on a par with the ancient civilisation of Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley."
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html

V4D3R
08-31-2006, 02:07 AM
When I was about to take a break on this whole thing - you show me this. Deep.

Do you know about Ba'albek Aqueous?

The only structure that withstood the Deluge.

3 stones on it were quarried 2 miles away from the structure and moved there.

They weigh 1100 tons. In contrast - the biggest blocks on the Giza pyramid weigh in at 25 tons. The other smaller blocks at the temple in Baalbek weigh in at 60 tons.

Nothing we built today can move that kind of weight. What did back then?

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 02:08 AM
http://members.tripod.com/underwater_pyramids/strip1.jpg
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http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 02:11 AM
When I was about to take a break on this whole thing - you show me this. Deep.

Do you know about Ba'albek Aqueous?

The only structure that withstood the Deluge.

3 stones on it were quarried 2 miles away from the structure and moved there.

They weigh 1100 tons. In contrast - the biggest blocks on the Giza pyramid weigh in at 25 tons. The other smaller blocks at the temple in Baalbek weigh in at 60 tons.

Nothing we built today can move that kind of weight. What did back then?


No doubt, it was some supreme intelligence at work. I didn't know about Ba'albek. Thanks for adding on...word.

Peace

snapple
08-31-2006, 02:14 AM
ill shit i wanna try scuba diving now

V4D3R
08-31-2006, 02:16 AM
One of the blocks that never made it to the structure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/V4D3R/Plate-52.jpg

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 02:33 AM
^^Wow....it's huge!

Prince Rai
08-31-2006, 08:01 AM
damnn. this is a great read.. thanks aqueous!!

Kong
08-31-2006, 02:38 PM
One of the blocks that never made it to the structure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/V4D3R/Plate-52.jpg

yeah big block, cant imagine men putting many of them together for a pyramid.

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 04:55 PM
damnn. this is a great read.. thanks aqueous!!
Peace Princerai

Dirty Knowledge
08-31-2006, 04:56 PM
This sounds like an ill track title. "Underwater Pyramids" by RZA and Ras Kass.

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 05:00 PM
yeah big block, cant imagine men putting many of them together for a pyramid.

That's what I'm saying tho. Peeps tend to think that there must be something or someone else greater than themselves because they don't know themselves. Some people say that Aliens came and constructed the pyramids in Egypt. Why?

Somebody is benefiting from making us think that we don't have the ability to do such things.

Aqueous Moon
08-31-2006, 05:02 PM
This sounds like an ill track title. "Underwater Pyramids" by RZA and Ras Kass.
lol....the beat on the link is kinda nice too.
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phike...an/japan2.html (http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html)

Kong
08-31-2006, 06:39 PM
This sounds like an ill track title. "Underwater Pyramids" by RZA and Ras Kass.

lol

That's what I'm saying tho. Peeps tend to think that there must be something or someone else greater than themselves because they don't know themselves. Some people say that Aliens came and constructed the pyramids in Egypt. Why?

Somebody is benefiting from making us think that we don't have the ability to do such things.

In what way does it benefit somebody?

what could we do with knowing we did that?

tonygusto
08-31-2006, 06:50 PM
this forum is ill, the info shatters my past belief system

Gawd
08-31-2006, 07:04 PM
now this is a good thread ageaous......

Frontal Lobotomy
08-31-2006, 07:25 PM
A fascinating read. Good stuff

snapple
08-31-2006, 07:50 PM
this forum is ill, the info shatters my past belief system


tonygusto, you're ill and i hope you keep postin

V4D3R
08-31-2006, 09:03 PM
Well - looking at the timeline- we were giants then(nephilim) Sons of gods. Sunny pointed that out to me. We also lived longer.

The knowledge would only benifit those that enslaved us to do such work back then if they are still around today - which is more likely.

Sumerian/Akkadian/Egyptian archeology/artifacts/texts say that yes - we worshipped beings - not spooks - living so-called gods. (catches Kephrems scent in the thread now)

Some of these rocks were too precisely cut for the tools of the day.Too heavy. 1100 tons.

Do the math. I'm too tired to right now. A good site on theories is here.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_megalithconstruction.htm

Could be it was ancient rock cement. Just a theory.

The Temple's main platform was on old babylonian coins - depicting Shem on them.

tonygusto
08-31-2006, 09:48 PM
Sunny pointed that out to me.

question. a little off topic.

i stumbled across a wutang forum several years ago, and i think the username was sunnywinters, there were others, but that one stands out. i believe o nthe old methodman forum, and a wu forum, discussed topics like the topics in this forum. the info these guys/gals posted and discussed was beyond the limit of my comprehension. anybody have those threads, saved?

V4D3R
08-31-2006, 10:29 PM
He's Sunny Winters.

I'm Winter's Shade.

tonygusto
08-31-2006, 10:51 PM
i think you guys were talking about planet x, structures on mars, the dark side of the moon, etc etc.

its dumb late
im ghost
peace

Jet Set
09-01-2006, 11:00 AM
this shit is genius too read

digitalninja
09-01-2006, 11:38 AM
it is....

$inista
09-01-2006, 02:05 PM
brings up alot of questions mutha fuckas cant ansewr..
shit was discovered ten year ago wow never heard nothing about it

I once seen some special on 13 were they was trying to figure out how they moved huge stone waying up to ten tons they use wood & rope & alot of man power also another method with sand, both ways worked but however took alot of effort

MsRzaRecTaH
09-01-2006, 02:58 PM
Good Read.... And Sunny Winters Is Still Around

Aqueous Moon
09-01-2006, 05:20 PM
lol



In what way does it benefit somebody?

what could we do with knowing we did that?
Those who have power right now in the world, they control all aspects of civilization through their manipulation of knowledge - truth, to be more specific.

Like I mentioned the 6000 year barrier in modern history....it benefits them to have us believe that the civilization they have powered is organic and is the most advanced civilization there ever was. Because then we won't have the desire to question their motives. Eventhough, we can tell that their motives are not righteous by the condition of their civilzation....they keep power because we think that it is an organic evolution of humanity.

What if the people who built the underwater pyramids were more advanced technologically and culturally? It looks like they were because it still 'boggles' the modern scientist to figure out exactly how these grand architects could have been.

So, I start to ask what is it that they knew that we don't? And why is this knowledge being kept under raps? I think it's being kept secret to keep us from being free.

You know...it reminds me of the slave days, they used to forbid the slaves from learning how to read because they thought that if the slaves could read stories about people who resisted their oppressors then they would get ideas of resisting the slavemaster. Even the bible stories like david and goliath, moses and egypt. They didn't want them to know about none of that.

INF
09-01-2006, 06:01 PM
That's what I'm saying tho. Peeps tend to think that there must be something or someone else greater than themselves because they don't know themselves. Some people say that Aliens came and constructed the pyramids in Egypt. Why?

Somebody is benefiting from making us think that we don't have the ability to do such things.

The golden tops were conducters. They recieved signals thru the top of the pyramids. Radio waves. Time is infinite. Nothing is new. Its fucked up that we can not construct anything like the pyramids. I wonder why...........

LORD NOSE
09-01-2006, 11:19 PM
Be careful

there is work going on to shift the facts that the black man is the original man

blackwisdom
09-01-2006, 11:33 PM
The golden tops were conducters. They recieved signals thru the top of the pyramids. Radio waves. Time is infinite. Nothing is new. Its fucked up that we can not construct anything like the pyramids. I wonder why...........
Our human fleshy bodies are more technologically advanced than anything that man could ever construct. When civilization was humane we cultivated ourselves to peak performance for the betterment of all. When a few try to do what many did they fail.

Humanity is more ancient than any calendar can calculate. Industrial civilizations are just as ancient. Mankind has been on the planet for the last 2-3 million years. There's no way that we only recently elevated to such soaring heights. As a matter of fact we're on the down slope. The universe has to cleanse this planet in order to bring back balance. Don't expect us to do anything else but become more of a prisoner to our minds instead of being liberated by them.

To articulate the fact that ancient civilizations possessed advancements that present day historians fail to publicly acknowledge on a mass scale I site the following from John G. Jackson's Introduction to African Civilization, Chapter 6, pg 247.

"The Mayan people possessed another calendar, called the Haab, consisting of 18 months of 20 days each, giving a total of 360 days. To this were added five days called Uayeb, which corrected the year to its true length of 365 days. "The actual year is about 365 days 6 hours long," Robert Silverberg notes, "and the Mayas, aware of this, periodically adjusted their calendar to account for this, just as we do with leap years. But the Maya calendar was even more precise than ours, by a matter of some seconds a year." (Lost Cities and Vanished Civilizations, pp. 120-21, by Robert Silverberg.) These two calendars, the Tzolkin and the Haab, were combined to form a third calendar, called the Calendar-Round...

The Maya calendar-makers were not satisfied with the Tzolkin (Based off of a West African calendar], the Haab, and the Calendar-Round; they showed their profound knowledge of astronomy by constructing a Venus Calendar. This calendar, based on the phases of the planet Venus, which has a year of 584 days, was divided into four parts, consisting of 236 days (morning star), 90 days (superior conjunction), 250 days (evening star), and 90 days (interior conjunction)-which is mathematically accurate. The equivalence in length of eight solar years of 365 days each, and five Venus years of 584 days each, was recognized and accurately calculated; and we have reason to believe that a discrepancy of eight-hundredths (0.08) of a day between the mean Venus year and the true Venus year was corrected by a marginal subtraction of two days after a period of twenty-five revolutions of that planet."

I add this only to state that you can't just go with what you're told. You have to do serious scientific research to reveal some truths. I know I'm far from knowing a lot but I'm in a journey.

Great post! I’m glad I decided to venture into ego forum today.

Hotep

blackwisdom
09-01-2006, 11:45 PM
Be careful

there is work going on to shift the facts that the black man is the original manAll we have to do is unbiasly study the genesis and migrations of Aryan people to reveal their recent arrival on the scene compared to the ageless presence of jet Black mankind. The problem arises when we allow the White Power Structure to structure our minds and control our culture/history/land.

It's funny... you can argue with a page in a book but you can't argue with tons of stone and mega sculptures with African facial features.

Peace

7EL7
09-01-2006, 11:52 PM
All we have to do is unbiasly study the genesis and migrations of Aryan people to reveal their recent arrival on the scene compared to the ageless presence of jet Black mankind. The problem arises when we allow the White Power Structure to structure our minds and control our culture/history/land.

It's funny... you can argue with a page in a book but you can't argue with tons of stone and mega sculptures with African facial features.

Peace

those can always be made to look like whatever ..... by whoever ......

the youth will believe what the new power structure says

blackwisdom
09-02-2006, 03:07 PM
those can always be made to look like whatever ..... by whoever ......

the youth will believe what the new power structure saysNo doubt. That's why I'm doing what many others are doing... sounding off the truth. The truth... is almost like statistics. It can be manipulated so easily...

snapple
09-02-2006, 05:36 PM
word, if you want people to see you have to force their 3rd eye open yourself.

7EL7
09-03-2006, 12:28 AM
be careful though
you'll force a third eye open and all the shit you ain't know will spill out blinding you

sometimes you think people stupid, thinking you the one who needs to wake them up, get a rude awakening yourself

snapple
09-03-2006, 12:29 AM
^^ a wise man knows hes a fool.

7EL7
09-03-2006, 12:39 AM
Fam

MsRzaRecTaH
09-03-2006, 11:55 AM
Peace APSU!

KBA7
09-04-2006, 04:36 PM
Theres so much thats hidden or downplayed. The people who control mass media have major ego problems because reality is not conforming to their thoughts.

I wish I had a crib like they did back in those ancient days. These formations they found underwater are hot. I wonder if these skyscrapers are gonna drown to.

Aqueous Moon
09-04-2006, 07:22 PM
The people who control mass media have major ego problems because reality is not conforming to their thoughts.


Word tha fuck up. But, they so good at what they do. Got us folks wit knowledge of self dissing each other! Damn....

blackwisdom
09-04-2006, 08:54 PM
Word tha fuck up. But, they so good at what they do. Got us folks wit knowledge of self dissing each other! Damn....I don't think it's them that has us dissing us...

Aqueous Moon
09-04-2006, 09:05 PM
I don't think it's them that has us dissing us...
Then please.....bless me wit your of opinion of shit. I'm confused.

snapple
09-04-2006, 10:48 PM
blackwisdom wins best sig of alltime

blackwisdom
09-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Then please.....bless me wit your of opinion of shit. I'm confused.
Basically the Global White World Supremacy (that exist under many names, from demacracy to communism from Christianity to Islam from multi-national corporations to globalization to etc) that exists today is in place to control our minds in order to control us to the point where our populations will decrease to a couple hundred thousand people on the planet that they can easily control and manipulate with easy. I offer Dr. Francis Cress Welsing's working definition of racism (white supremacy) for further clarity:

the local and global power system structured and maintained by persons who classify themselves as white, whether consciously or subconsciously determined; this system consists of patterns of perception, logic, symbol formation, thought, speech, action and emotional response, as conducted simutaneously in all areas of people activity (economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war). The ultimate purpose of the ssytem is to prevent white genetic annihilation on Earth - a planet in which the overwhelming majority of people as classified as non-white (black, brown, red and yellow) by white-skinned people. All of the non-white people are genetically dominant (in terms of skin colaration) compared to the genetically recessive white-skinned people.

Knowledge of self is key. While attaining knowledge of self the missing pages of his-story will be unfolded. When they are revealed emotions will be felt, but they are of no use unless they are manifested in positive actions for the upliftment of self - which is the all, because self is nothing but an extension of the all, including the Creator.

This has everything to do with underwater pyramids because they are a part of our story and the architects of them are our ancestors. We stand strong today upon their backs. All of the ones that we know by name and all of the nameless.

Does this answer your question, Sister, or am I shooting in the dark?

Hotep

Aqueous Moon
09-05-2006, 11:39 AM
Does this answer your question, Sister, or am I shooting in the dark?

Hotep
yes...I agree with that, most def.
peace

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
09-06-2006, 06:00 PM
I seen a Documentary about these Pyramids at beginning of the year very interesting...

CherChezLaMarauder
09-06-2006, 08:23 PM
if they were built, maybe it was from other forms of life from other than Earth.

Aqueous Moon
09-07-2006, 04:29 PM
if they were built, maybe it was from other forms of life from other than Earth.
Could be that it was just a different Earth than the one we know right now. I mean 10,000 years ago I'm sure the Earth was a lot different back then, and so the people would be too.

Prince Rai
09-07-2006, 04:40 PM
Could be that it was just a different Earth than the one we know right now. I mean 10,000 years ago I'm sure the Earth was a lot different back then, and so the people would be too.
hmm havent thought like that... although this seems very plausible... more plausible that the alien theories.

We do use only half of our brain capacity etc, perhaps before we used more of it and thus could think more deeper.

but i do not exclude people from outside the "Earth" to have had their hand in the pyramids.

After all, much knowledge of the pyramids are still not known. Which is weird for civilisations who could write...:list:

Prince Rai
09-07-2006, 05:14 PM
the earth has been knocked off its original axis

lol peace bro...

what u mean by that?

Prince Rai
09-07-2006, 05:17 PM
its orbit and shit is diffrent

perhaps
... perhaps our mental state and connection with "Earth" has shifted..

Prince Rai
09-07-2006, 05:27 PM
maybe but its orbit definatly been shifted

and the connection with earth definatly too... the schumman frequency
the earths field is way weaker then it used to be

seems interesting.... dyu have a source i can tap into?

Prince Rai
09-07-2006, 05:45 PM
peace palehorse, much apreciation!

suav3
09-08-2006, 03:49 AM
nah ppl back in the day had one motive.. they were the orignial free masons for god sakes lol... and the men who knew all the secrets of the grail and were getting all these donations from the people who came to them for wisdom.. but they all still had one cause so they built jus sand nd mud objects..... but now the pharohs of these days are getting are donations through taxes and big buisness so we are basically building their pyramid if there is a illuminati behind the government... osama and bush work together hence only casue they know the code thats why bush is always talking like an idiot but i know for a man in his position he knows what hes talking about cause i can definelty interpret some of that shit too..

LORD NOSE
11-09-2009, 06:26 AM
up

Son_of_The_Sun
11-09-2009, 04:36 PM
The idea about masons is very interesting, i would like to tell you my opinion, which is mainly based on FACTS and LOGIC, about what they doing nowdays with our society.

To control such a huge mass of paople they obviously have to have much better knowledge about people's nature than people themselves.
The main thing that they have to convince people is that there is a freedom of choice. Well, at first look it looks like "Yes i have a freedom, I can go here there and get any job i like and want", "Sex, drugs and popular music yeah i can do whatever i want", BUT where is freedom if there are Federal Sequrity Services? Where is freedom if you have to work all your life? Where is freedom if each child on the planet have to go to school to learn a bunch of useless stuff WASTING their lifes to learn how to get wordly possesions?(i'm pretty sure more than half of people don't need more than half of the teachings from school).

So, to keep everybody under control is tough, but if you have the knowledge of how to affect on people's consiousness it become very easy. This is a good question coming up now "What is the easiest way to rule the world?". People usually think you have to be strong and invincible like we those fake fags like Superman, Spider-Man, Iron man etc. Thinking logicly and humanly we have to consider that such persons can't exist, because life is real and it is not a movie, so it is all about human minds. The answer is to control human minds, AND to control human mids you have to control the media. Anyone having control over media can put people's minds in any way he/she/them want! But it is impossible for you or me or other slaves (i'm from russia, but i'm not russian, don't consider this as a racist fact or something, i just a same person who want to get out of opression) get a weapon and fight to control the media. Here is a conclusion those who posess the media nowadays are those who made it. And this is UNBELIEVABLY SICK people...
If you think about your choice still... Sorry to disappoint you, politicians there made only to give you an illusion that you have a freedom of choise because they are just puppets and they don't care what people think about them thay don't care if they look dumb or say stupid shit on TV.

The real owners of US and the whole world at all are living wealthy and they DON'T want you to be happy, smart, or to be able to think critically. They own liquor stores, beer stors. That is why they are in Afghanistan now because they transport drugs from there. They SPREAD CORRUPTION among society so everybody hate each other, but not them; and each person is degrading because they never develop themselves, but only start to think in one stream FREELY THINKING PERSON means they can loose their power, and trust me, to loose such power is a big big big FAIL for them, that's why their main threat is people who beleive in GOD.

To conclude, please watch this video, maybe this 10 minutes will change your life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r0VnqXu-vg

if u have any questions u are welcome, i respect other's opinion )

MaXiMus Da MaNtis
11-09-2009, 05:38 PM
LOL What People Are Willing To Convince Themselves Of Is Unbelievable......search for the truth , not what your tought

Shadowthrone
11-09-2009, 06:34 PM
I saw a documentary about this on discovery years ago. there are also reports of pilots who have seen a underwater pyramid of equal size to the great one at giza between florida and cuba during calm weather.

might be this one
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Shadowthrone
11-10-2009, 01:53 PM
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html

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