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J.T.S.
09-28-2006, 03:47 PM
Someone is getting ready to do the absolutely unthinkable: call Rakim out on a record by name. It's not going to be anything like the subliminal sparring that was rumored to be going on between Rakim and Big Daddy Kane in the '80s. This person is going to dis the God, one of the greatest MCs ever. Who has enough courage to do so? None other than Mr. Fearless himself, Freddie Foxxx a.k.a. Bumpy Knuckles. The song is called "The King Is Down" and appears on his new LP, Amerikkkan Black Man.

"I will eat Rakim's ass alive on any record, any stage," Bumpy Knuckles asserted recently. "When I finish with him, every bit of legendary status he had is gonna go out the window. I swear on everything I stand on, I will eat that n---a alive, bar by bar. I'll tell him to his muthaf---in' face."

So now you're gasping for air, and wondering why Freddie — a legendary hip-hop figure in his own right, who's earned respect for street pedigree as well as rap skills — is going at Ra. Well according to Foxxx, it goes back to the '80s in Wyandanch, New York, where Foxxx's rap team Supreme Force used to be competitive with Ra's team the Love Brothers. This was pre-Eric B. and Rakim.

"We got a history, you know. We got a real long history," Foxxx explained. "We from the same part of town. Ra has always had an attitude towards me that he was better than me — on the mic and more successful. How dare he think he can out-rhyme me. He has one style, that's all he's ever had."

What really got Foxxx upset, he said, was a Q&A with Rakim he read on hip-hop Web site Halftime Online. Rakim was asked about a battle that supposedly took place back in the day between the Love Brothers and Supreme Force squad.

"I never f---ing turned down a battle with that muthaf---er!" Rakim is quoted as saying. "Foxxx wasn't ferocious like that. Foxxx had two other cats that used to rhyme with him. They were a good group, but Foxxx wasn't ferocious like that baby pa."

"I read the article and it set me off," Foxxx said. "He said I'm 'not ferocious.' How dare he? His ego kicked in. I said I'm gonna let the world who he really is. People are only calling him a legend because of what he did with Eric B. Everything after that was wack. Nobody will say it to his face."

Foxxx said he's not sure when the dis record will be coming out, but his LP is slated for sometime in February. WWE champion John Cena and Talib Kweli rap on a record called "Give it to the A&R," while the Alchemist, Pete Rock, DJ Scratch and DJ Premier produced a myriad of the records.

"I'm too old to be chasing publicity," Foxxx said when asked if he really has a legitimate gripe with Rakim or if he's just doing it for hype for his album. "I don't need the publicity. I ain't no hater. But when I see he's so quick to always shoot me in the foot, enough is enough. Why would I want to get recognition on Rakim? He's nothing to me. Y'all see him differently than I do. On the song, I never called his name. We used to call him 'Pop' back in the day. I don't call him 'Rakim' on the record, I call him 'Pop.' "

Bumpy Knuckles also said he dares Rakim to come back at him on wax. "Turn your mic on, B," he said defiantly. "I want him to put me in my place."

Rakim is on tour and could not be reached for comment.

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TSA
09-28-2006, 04:29 PM
now THATS Mcin, that's a breath of fresh air cause all these corny little niggas were making MC battles cheesy as hell, they all literally hate each other, on some hissy fight girl fight shit, and spend the whole track talking about beating each other up, make like 19 tracks, and each will have 2 minutes of rhyme and 3 minutes of talk at the end, and it's always over some gay shit, like he pushed me in a club around the time one of the 2 re about to drop an album. This right here is a real MC battle, two cats going at it cause one wants the other's crown, simple as that.9:|6

CharlesJones
09-28-2006, 05:01 PM
Freddie Foxxx is tripping. He said in another recent interview that Big Daddy Kane and LL Cool J are better than Rakim hahahahahahahahahaha. He also said that he likes Rick Ross. He said Rick Ross reminds him of a New York mc because he got lyrical skills hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Freddie need to stop doing drugs LOL. I like Freddie a lot but he isn't a better lyricist than Rakim. He can talk shit about Rakim all he wants to but Rakim will kill him lyrically in a battle. I do agree with Freddie when he said Rakim's The 18th Letter and The Master albums are weak.

GhostfaceThaPharoahe
09-28-2006, 07:07 PM
LOL@preparing to diss him

J.T.S.
09-28-2006, 07:12 PM
Freddie Foxxx is tripping. He said in another recent interview that Big Daddy Kane and LL Cool J are better than Rakim hahahahahahahahahaha. He also said that he likes Rick Ross. He said Rick Ross reminds him of a New York mc because he got lyrical skills hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Freddie need to stop doing drugs LOL. I like Freddie a lot but he isn't a better lyricist than Rakim. He can talk shit about Rakim all he wants to but Rakim will kill him lyrically in a battle. I do agree with Freddie when he said Rakim's The 18th Letter and The Master albums are weak.

They might be weak on production, i think the 18th letter was ill, and the master had some joints, his beats were somewhat lackluster. But c'mon you can't front the God spits fire!!
He'll murder Freddie Foxx!

CharlesJones
09-28-2006, 07:44 PM
I said that Rakim is lyrically better than Freddie.

oDoUoSoKo
09-28-2006, 07:54 PM
getting closed today prob.

wu gambino
09-29-2006, 12:12 AM
Now... I just had to stop reading and address this quote...

"I will eat Rakim's ass"

...whatever you say Foxxx, whatever you say...

Dirty Knowledge
09-29-2006, 12:15 AM
Rakim will just LMAO and bump the track a few times then throw the track out the window like Queen Latifah in Set it Off.

snapple
09-29-2006, 12:37 AM
so wheres the track?

Shaolin Bloody Sword
09-29-2006, 12:38 AM
Freddie Foxxx has a big mouth !!! Ra is dope, but i wonder if he can actually make a dope diss record. Let's see the outcome !

tajeco
09-29-2006, 04:00 AM
This is the first I ever heard of any Bumpy Knuckels character. I smell a publicity hungry turd muncher

Cheech Da WildKard
09-29-2006, 12:06 PM
This is the first I ever heard of any Bumpy Knuckels character. I smell a publicity hungry turd muncher

You never heard of Freddie Foxxx?

Razorsharp
09-29-2006, 03:52 PM
WOWzers... Rakim better reply to this, shiiiit... the god btter not go out like that... hopefully this turns into a MC battle only and not one of the 2 MC's getting shot or killed...=/....

this match should be on Pay Per View

chefgummydee
09-29-2006, 11:32 PM
Rakim is dope, but can't handle Bumpy Knuckles

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
09-29-2006, 11:46 PM
I DEFINENTLY wanna hear this, very interesting

Ghost_Deini_
09-29-2006, 11:51 PM
i agree with bumpy knucks on the fact that rakim's only got one style, but rakim's still great. but.... "i will eat rakim's ass"? haha....

LORD ZERO
09-30-2006, 04:49 AM
Ra Already Won It Lol

Where Da Audio At!? I Wanna Hear This

Greek Gheynician Anal Tradition
09-30-2006, 05:51 AM
Freddie Foxxx has a big mouth !!! Ra is dope, but i wonder if he can actually make a dope diss record. Let's see the outcome !

CO SIGN

J.T.S.
09-30-2006, 02:04 PM
I will get back to you guys as soon as i get the audio e-mailed to me.

HANZO
09-30-2006, 05:24 PM
its should be like illegal to diss rakim

J.T.S.
10-02-2006, 11:31 AM
Got Freedie audio right herehttp://www.zshare.net/audio/bumpy-knuckles-disses-rakim-smartenupnas-com-mp3.htmlhttp://www.bbarak.cz/admin/images/articles/pic_small_2427.jpg

Foxxx-Mulder
10-02-2006, 11:53 AM
its should be like illegal to diss rakim

Even though Freddie Foxxx is one of my favourite MCs you're right Rakim is a fuckin legend, its like blasphemy what Bumpy is doin, whateva happens i still gonna have them both in my playlist

J.T.S.
10-02-2006, 12:20 PM
In 1986, Eric B. (Eric Barrier) arrived in Long Island from Queens, looking for the standout MC that the peninsula had to offer. As legend has it, Rakim and the legendary DJ (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) made the historic link even though Barrier had his eyes on another young rapper named Freddie Foxxx. With the end of the decade, Eric B. made albums with both MCs – one much more storied than the other - who took very different approaches to their lyrics and deliveries.

Twenty years later, a sweltering conflict has finally bubbled to the surface. Both Rakim and Foxxx have evolved into their own legends, respectively, just in vastly different ways. Rakim's status has reached mythic levels, as a self-proclaimed Hip-Hop (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) deity. Meanwhile, Freddie Foxxx's star has risen through an intimidating "Bumpy Knuckles" character, who proclaimed himself, “the king of the underground sound.” It may not be the '80s, but these titans still clash as if it were.

In a recent online (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) interview, Rakim explicitly stated that Foxxx was "not ferocious" as an MC. Upon hearing this, Freddie Foxxx recorded "The King is Down", a scathing diss of Ra to be included on Amerikkkan Black Man, Foxxx's forthcoming studio album. The album, featuring production from DJ Scratch, Pete Rock (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#), and DJ Premier, overtly criticizes rappers as well, but it's this one challenge, perhaps 20 years overdue, that has fans raising eyebrows. AllHipHop.com met Freddie Foxxx in the studio, and spoke about Rakim, guns, and the glory of an American Black man.

AllHipHop.com: The problem with Rakim stems from an interview with HalfTimeOnline.com, where Rakim said, that “Foxxx ain’t ferocious.” What was your initial reaction upon reading that?

Freddie Foxxx: [Laughs] At first, I was mad, because I was like, “Here he go again.” Like, the thing about Rakim and me is, every time somebody ever said something to him about me, he always took it as what it was – even when he found out it wasn’t true, he never came back to me and said, “Oh, I found out that the s**t the n***a said about Foxxx in reference to me wasn’t true.” I said, “How could Rakim let this f**kin’ guy [J. Butters] who’s interviewin’ him, bait him into sayin’ this bulls**t, when he know [that] I know he ain’t built like that! I’m tellin’ you what I know: Rakim know I will eat his ass alive on any record, any stage, anywhere, anytime. He’s not built like that. Rakim ain’t never had no battles. In the interviews, he’s talkin’ ‘bout all these battles he had, he ducked [Big Daddy] Kane for years. Van Silk had a battle set up with him and Kane [for $70,000], he ain’t show up. How the f**k you gonna write six bars about Big Daddy Kane? F**k is that about? How dare this n***a say [that] I ain’t ferocious. Did the n***a hear “The Militia”? Did he hear “R.N.S.”? Did he hear “Stock in the Game”? Did he hear “P.A.I.N.E.”? Did he listen to the record? Did he read the interviews? This n***a know me. He know me! So I’m like, “Yo, this ain’t the first time that ever happened. Why this mothaf**ka talkin’ all that s**t like he believin’ his own press clippings and s**t?” That s**t is not real to me. I’m like, “Yo, f**k it, it’s on.” He drew first blood, now, let’s see if he can handle the aftermath of what it is – no pun intended.

AllHipHop.com: There is a history here. We have previously spoken about the studio session for “Eric B. For President” that Ego Trip wrote about – you not being there, Rakim being there, history was made. Does this difference between two people stem back to that?

Freddie Foxxx: You know, everybody got the story f**kin’ wrong, man. The real story I didn’t have a session. Eric B. didn’t even have a rapper. The true story, the way it goes is that Eric B. came out to Long Island with a cat named Alvin Toney – you hear Rakim [now mentioning] Alvin Toney, and he ain’t [I]never mentioned Alvin before. Alvin Toney brought Eric B. out to Long Island. Eric asked him, “Who’s the dopest rapper out here?” Alvin Toney, verbatim, told him, “My man Taheem’s brother. That kid Freddie is the dopest rapper out here in this part right here.” I was drivin’, and I had a big-ass Cadillac at the time, and I see Eric in the street with a fur coat on with a leather hat turned backwards with this jewelry all over the f**kin’ place, and Alvin flags me down. He was like, “Yo, this Eric B. He lookin’ for somebody to do this record for him.” I took it as “Okay, what’s up?” He was like, “Meet me at your house at five o’clock,” – I remember like it was yesterday, I was like, “Aiight, I’ll be there.” But as I was driving, I was like, this is just another cat comin’ out here, and he don’t want my guys. I was in [a group called] The Supreme Force, he didn’t want [members] Eric and Kirk, he wanted me. I had a plan with them. I wasn’t gonna abandon them to work with Eric. The second person he took him to, when I didn’t show up for the meeting, was Rakim. Rakim was in a group too – but he ain’t see it like I seen it. He looked at is as an opportunity to get his self in position to do what he do. I respected that. He did it, and I’m glad it happened that way. ‘Cause I don’t know if that would’ve been the same history, who knows?

I think Eric B. & Rakim as a group, made history together. Look at everything Rakim said in the interview about me. [Quoting] “I was dope in the group, but individually, I wasn’t ferocious.” But he made hit records with Eric B. and dropped all this bulls**t afterwards. The Master and all that f**kin’ garbage he dropped, that s**t was all trash! But nobody ever said that to his face! All that s**t was garbage. No classic s**t on them albums (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) – even the stuff he got from Pete Rock and [DJ] Premier, without them beats bein’ what they was, it just another Rakim bulls**t, tiring, sleepy-ass flow doin’ that same ole’ bulls**t. But he tell you I ain’t ferocious – as an individual, throughout the years, without a major figure behind me, still kept my name poppin’ in the street. Now he’s in my position, and he ain’t poppin’. He doin’ old school s**t that he did with Eric, ‘cause that’s where his legacy lies. But his new s**t is bulls**t – all bulls**t, everybody know that s**t is garbage. And anybody who say otherwise is f**kin’ d*ck-riding.

He don’t go to the studio. He don’t show up to his f**kin’ sessions. I made the f**kin’ Freddie Foxxx is Here album ‘cause that n***a didn’t come to the f**kin’ studio. Eric said, “Foxxx, just work ‘til Rakim get here,” – 30 f**kin’ days, he ain’t show up, a whole month. [That’s your] f**kin’ job! That’s his M.O. But his ego is so f**kin’ big that he gonna get in a magazine (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) – I’m f**kin’ fed up with that n***a, f**k him! It’s always the same f**kin’ s**t with this guy. If you’re really that nice, man, and you a legend, then put me in my place. Where you at? Put me in my mothaf**kin’ place, Rakim Allah, put me in my place then. F**k him, man! I’m pissed off because he ain’t gonna get on the mic and say nothin’, know why, ‘cause he think he helpin’ me. [MTV News] asked me recently, “You may just want publicity because your album comin’ out.” If I wanted publicity, I would’ve dissed somebody like 50 Cent or somebody big. I don’t have a problem with them, my issues with mothaf**kas is real issues. I’m tired of this n***a. Every time Rakim hear my name, he got some slick s**t to say, bring it!

AllHipHop.com: “The King is Down” is the record you’ve got that addresses this. Eric B.’s on the intro. Did he play any other role in this? Why’d you get him?

Freddie Foxxx: Eric didn’t have anything to do with this record other than, “Yo E, I need you to come intro this record.” And he came. Eric has been my man. Me and Eric have had our ups (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) and downs, and there’s been times where me and Eric have disagreed on things, and I thought that Eric didn’t do some things right by me, and he thought I overreacted, but the one thing about Eric I respect is, he know how to come back to the table as a man and whatever his issue is with me, we talk about it face to face. I asked him to intro the record. I said, “If I’m lyin’[on the record] B, don’t do it. If I wasn’t the one that you wanted to rock with in the beginning – like Rakim says I’m makin’ that up – then don’t do it.”

Rakim told the dude in the article that I wanted to battle him. I never said that. I never tried to big myself up over Rakim, ever. But had he picked up the phone and said, “Yo Foxxx, blahzay blah,” he would’ve known that. But this is the third or forth time. This was the last straw, man. I’m tellin’ you right now, if he go into the studio, I don’t care who do the beat, Rakim is over! People’ll respect him because of who he is, but he ain’t nice. He’s a wrap. It’s over! Over!

AllHipHop.com: On “The Militia”, you said you’re one of the livest MCs, ever. If we grabbed ten people on the street, I believe at least four would say Rakim is Hip-Hop’s greatest lyricist. Does this battle or call out allow listeners to compare those two qualities?

Freddie Foxxx: In the past, when he was doing stuff like “My Melody”, to me, they classic songs. I can’t knock them records. I’m sayin’, I know for a fact that Rakim wasn’t the best rapper out of the clique of rappers (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) he came from. There were times I know when Rakim was supposed to be on stage, doin’ shows, and he wasn’t there, they put Snake Bliss on stage and pulled the hat down on his head, and you’d think it was Rakim – wasn’t Rakim. He’s lackadaisical. He get in situations where he move like a turtle. Everything is slow with him. Rakim knows how to pen certain things in, but where does all this “dope lyrical” s**t comin’ from? I think the dopest line I ever heard him say was, “I take seven MCs, put ‘em in a line / Take seven more brothers who think they can rhyme / And take seven more, before I go for mine / And 21 MCs…” What the f**k, he can add? Big f**kin’ deal. He ain’t nicer than Kane, Kane’s career was bigger. He ain’t nicer than LL, LL’s career was bigger. He ain’t nicer than KRS-One, KRS-One’s career was bigger.

He opened up a can of worms now, because I’m tired of his mouth. If Rakim is so nice, than hopefully Oh My God or whateva his album (http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1549#) is gonna be called will represent. I’m dyin’ to see it. Hopefully, I can boost his heat up.

002
10-02-2006, 12:33 PM
This is the first I ever heard of any Bumpy Knuckels character. I smell a publicity hungry turd muncher

yea, maybe, but dude's been in the game for 20 yrs..

anyway, there are better mcs out there than Rakim. there's one in the Wu Tang too...

DRUNKENDRAGON
10-08-2006, 07:08 PM
I liked the part where he said you couldn't out-spit Dub C and Guru on militia part two or whatver, other than that, nothing made me say "Oh shit!"

snapple
10-08-2006, 08:01 PM
yea, maybe, but dude's been in the game for 20 yrs..

anyway, there are better mcs out there than Rakim. there's one in the Wu Tang too...

and he wouldn't exist if rakim didn't, true story

oldie
10-08-2006, 08:44 PM
damn, i need to read up on Rakim's legendery status then!!?!
i know jack shit about him or why he's so highly regarded!

CherChezLaMarauder
10-08-2006, 09:59 PM
I don't know, man. I'm not sure if Rakim was ever built for battling on tracks. I always dug Freddix Foxxx for the longest, definately underrated

Polocash7
10-09-2006, 02:58 AM
Ra- the best MC ever. He got shit from '88 rappers still can't out spit. Ra made every MC change their flow. As far as F.Fox,this sounds like some shit that should have been handle years ago. They should trying to get together and make some dope music.

Lil' Ruger
10-09-2006, 04:22 AM
not such a good diss track.