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Dokuro
10-02-2006, 05:35 PM
Truck driver kills three girls in Amish school shooting

POSTED: 5:07 p.m. EDT, October 2, 2006


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PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A 32-year-old truck driver walked into a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday, binding and shooting three girls execution-style before killing himself, police said Monday.
Seven other girls were wounded in the attack, which police said appeared to be a revenge killing for an incident that occurred two decades ago.
The attack was the nation's third deadly school shooting in a week.
"It seems as though he wanted to attack young female victims, and this is close to his residence. That's the only reason we can figure that he went to the school," said Commander Jeffrey Miller, Pennsylvania State Police.
"It's a horrendous crime scene," he said. (Watch how the gunman got in and what he did -- 7:44 (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2006/10/02/amish.school.shooting.presser.whtm.affl','2006/10/09');) http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/1.5/main/icon_video.gif (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2006/10/02/amish.school.shooting.presser.whtm.affl','2006/10/09');))
The shooting took place in Lancaster County, about 60 miles west of Philadelphia, at a school run by the Amish community with about 27 students in grades 1 through 8. One of the children died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. (Watch police investigate shooting scene -- 1:00 (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2006/10/02/vo.pa.amish.school.shooting.aerials.wbal','2006/10/09');))
The wounded girls were taken to several hospitals in the central Pennsylvania area, some of them with gunshot wounds to the head. Most of the victims range in age from 6 to 13, he said. One of those killed was an aide who was older than 13.
The gunman, Charles Carl Roberts IV, drove a commercial milk truck, said Miller. He was not Amish, was not previously wanted by authorities and had no known criminal history.
The Bart, Pennsylvania, resident had three children, and left several notes for his family "along the lines of suicide notes," Miller said.
The notes were "rambling" and "didn't make much sense," Miller said.
Roberts' wife tried to call him when she found the notes, Miller said. He returned the call on his cell phone, told her he wouldn't be coming home and "that he was acting out to achieve revenge for something that happened 20 years ago."
"Shortly thereafter, the shooting commenced," he said.
Troopers were unable to contact him and were preparing to storm the schoolhouse when Roberts began shooting, Miller said.
Gunman let boys go

The commissioner said Roberts had worked a shift that ended about 3 a.m. Monday and taken his children to their bus stop before beginning his rampage.
Police said he had barricaded himself in the schoolhouse with two-by-four and two-by-six pieces of lumber, which he brought to the scene in a borrowed pickup truck. He did not respond to efforts by police to make contact with him.
Miller said that during the attack, Roberts apparently told students to line up in front of the blackboard. He began to tie his female captives' feet together. He let the 15 boys in the classroom leave.
Roberts was armed with a shotgun and an automatic handgun, Miller said.
Miller said Roberts also allowed an adult female who was pregnant to leave with three other adult females who had infant children with them.
The teacher who was released was able to alert authorities, Miller said.
"Apparently, there was some sort of an issue in his past that for some reason, he wanted to exact revenge against female victims. That's all I can tell you right now," Miller said.
Lancaster County's 911 Web site reported dozens of emergency vehicles -- including at least nine ambulances -- were dispatched to Bart Township shortly before 11 a.m. for a "medical emergency." The Lancaster County emergency communications Web site showed 20 incident calls listed to the normally quiet Bart Township at 10:48 a.m.
Shortly after the attack, men, women and girls in traditional Amish clothing gathered in small groups outside the country schoolhouse along a dirt road. Horse-drawn carriages could be seen in a nearby parking lot.
The school is one of about 150 that serve the Amish population of about 200,000, said Donald Kraybill, a sociology professor at nearby Elizabethtown College.
"They typically are one-room facilities operated by Amish parents," Kraybill said. "There usually are not any security concerns or security risks in the schools, so this is quite a shock."
Aaron Meyer, who owns a buggy company in the nearby village of Bird in Hand, said the largely rural Amish country had experienced nothing like the crime in the 25 years he has lived in the area.
"Many of these townships there have no police at all, because there's no crime," Meyer told CNN.
On Wednesday, a 53-year-old man entered a high school in Bailey, Colorado, where he held several female students hostage at gunpoint. He shot one girl before killing himself seconds after a SWAT team stormed the classroom.
A high school student near Madison, Wisconsin, is suspected of fatally gunning down his principal on Friday, after he was disciplined for carrying tobacco and being bullied.


(what is our world coming too even the amish are bing shot down)
just thougt you should know

EAGLE EYE
10-02-2006, 05:38 PM
yea i saw that on the news...


Imagine if different amish communities went to war with each other and were doing drive-bys with horse and buggys!

Dokuro
10-02-2006, 05:46 PM
hahahaahahah homie that would be one bad ass war see them leaning out a window with a long bow blasint on some mark that would be halerios

Sexy Jasper
10-02-2006, 06:09 PM
http://www.com-www.com/weirdal/pix/amishparadise-inside.jpg

Jet Set
10-02-2006, 06:09 PM
I saw it on CNN just as i was leaving the library tonite.
sick

9th Warrior
10-02-2006, 06:36 PM
kinda sorta close to where i live not really but still scary

oLd_KaiNry
10-02-2006, 06:49 PM
damn is it becoming a fad or something...

NIGHT MAYOR
10-03-2006, 04:45 AM
you guys just have to many guns, and lax gun laws, JUST GO BOWLING!

SHRAP
10-03-2006, 08:40 AM
killing people is the american way

snapple
10-03-2006, 10:21 AM
you guys just have to many guns, and lax gun laws, JUST GO BOWLING!


no, we have too many devils behind the trigger.

oLd_KaiNry
10-03-2006, 01:05 PM
you guys just have to many guns, and lax gun laws, JUST GO BOWLING!

im so tired of hearing ppl saying that...

most ppl that have a gun grew up with guns so for them having a gun is not a big deal...

any dickhead in this world that wants to kill someone will do it, wether the dude has a gun in his house or no gun...

gun possession is not the reason why ppl are killin students in school... everytime someone post a topic about someone gettin killed theres allways this europeen that never been to usa that will come and say

" its cuz americans have guns... "

fuck off its not cuz u never hold a gun that your smart and not crazy

WuGambino
10-03-2006, 02:13 PM
im so tired of hearing ppl saying that...

most ppl that have a gun grew up with guns so for them having a gun is not a big deal...

any dickhead in this world that wants to kill someone will do it, wether the dude has a gun in his house or no gun...

gun possession is not the reason why ppl are killin students in school... everytime someone post a topic about someone gettin killed theres allways this europeen that never been to usa that will come and say

" its cuz americans have guns... "

fuck off its not cuz u never hold a gun that your smart and not crazyGun possession might not be the REASON people are killing people in schools, but it sure makes it a hell of a lot easier.
You can say what you want about people will kill someone if they really want to, but statistics speak for themselves. Guns are why the murder rate is so high in America.

Razorsharp
10-03-2006, 02:29 PM
my roommate told me about this shit... crazy ass fuck... damn milk man

oLd_KaiNry
10-03-2006, 03:10 PM
Gun possession might not be the REASON people are killing people in schools, but it sure makes it a hell of a lot easier.
You can say what you want about people will kill someone if they really want to, but statistics speak for themselves. Guns are why the murder rate is so high in America.

how much are u in your country ? couple millions... 50-100 million max probably...

were 350 million ppl... living in the biggest capitalist country in the world, a country were its hard to be different cuz ppl might not accept u the way u really are... in that 350million its kinda normal that theres couple freaks ready to kill somebody... and dont say things like china has more ppl and they aint doing that crap... chinese are born in a communist country were they dont have the same freedom has we do.

yea our gun laws affects the statistic like you said, but what im sayin is that it aint the main reason stuff like that happens and we should focus on other problems that causes theses murders before thinking about gun acces

Dokuro
10-03-2006, 04:34 PM
Police: School killer told wife he molested family members

POSTED: 4:12 p.m. EDT, October 3, 2006

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• School gunman's suicide note says he was dreaming of molesting children again
•KY Jelly found in classroom where he shot girls, five fatally, on Monday
• Gunman said he molested relatives 20 years ago, but family said it knew nothing
• Pennsylvania police investigating motive for Amish school rampage
(CNN) -- Pennsylvania schoolhouse killer Charles Carl Roberts IV told his wife he molested young relatives 20 years ago and was dreaming about molesting children again, police said Tuesday.
Investigators talked to relatives and analyzed suicide notes as they tried to determine what made Roberts barricade himself inside the tiny Amish school, tying up girls and shooting them -- five fatally -- before killing himself Monday.
Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Roberts may have targeted the school for its girl students and -- given various items found in the school -- intended to molest the children.
Roberts brought KY Jelly lubricant to the schoolhouse where the assault occurred, but there is no evidence that the victims were sexually assaulted in any way, Miller said.
"It's very possible that he intended to victimize these children in many ways prior to executing them and killing himself," Miller said.
Police found a checklist in Roberts' truck that "matches the evidence found and recovered in the school," Miller said.
The list included tape, eyebolts, a hose, bullets, guns, binoculars, earplugs, flashlights, wood and candles; many of the items were checked off.
A 2-by-4 board of wood found in the school had 10 large eyebolts that were spaced about 10 inches apart, Miller said.
"It's important to note that we had 10 victims at that time that were in the school," he said.
Roberts "became disorganized" when police arrived at the schoolhouse and "shot himself in the head as [police] were coming in through the window," Miller said.
Roberts also wrote in suicide notes that he was mad at God for how his baby, Elise, died just 20 minutes after being born prematurely nine years ago, Miller said.
Many of the details police revealed Tuesday came from interviews with Roberts' wife, Marie Roberts. She told investigators that she spoke with her husband by cell phone Monday and he said, "'I am not coming home. The police are here,'" Miller said.
In a note left for his wife, Roberts mentioned an incident 20 years ago, but it wasn't until he spoke on the phone with her that he revealed he had molested two female relatives who were between the ages of 3 and 5 at the time, Miller said.
"Roberts mentioned in his suicide note that he was having dreams of molesting again," Miller said.
Miller said both sides of Roberts' family were interviewed, including his parents, and his wife, and they said they had no knowledge of any molestation by Roberts affecting any family member or anyone else.
Police said they have not yet spoken to the relatives whom Roberts said he molested.
Miller identified the five girls killed as Naomi Rose Ebersole, 7; Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12; Marian Fisher, 13; Mary Liz Miller, 8, and her sister, Lena Miller, 7.
All had been bound, and were shot in the head at close range.
Police said Roberts released 15 boys and three women with infants and then told the remaining female students to line up in front of the blackboard. Roberts tied the girls' feet together.
Initial reports indicated one of the victims was a teacher's aide, but that was not accurate, Miller said.
Five other girls -- ages 6 to 13 -- remain hospitalized, all but one in critical condition.
Bedside vigils

Two girls critically injured in the attack died early Tuesday, hospital and state police officials told CNN. The other three victims -- two girls and a teenager -- died soon after the attack, Miller said.
At Hershey Medical Center, a 6-year-old girl remained in critical condition Tuesday and a 13-year-old girl was upgraded from critical to serious condition, said hospital spokesman Sean Young.
Families of both girls were maintaining a vigil at their hospital bedsides and the 13-year-old was "exchanging non-verbal communication" or "eye-communication" with her family, said another spokesman, Matt Wayne.
"There is reason for optimism, but at the same time it would be conjecture to say she's out of the woods, so to speak," Young said.
It was the nation's third deadly school shooting in a week, following the killing of a 16-year-old girl by a 53-year-old man in Bailey, Colorado, and the shooting death of a principal at a school in Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaking during a visit to a school in Stockton, California, President Bush said Tuesday he was "saddened and deeply concerned" by the recent school shootings.
"Our school children should never fear safety when they enter their classroom," Bush said.
Jack Meyer, a member of the Brethren community living near the Amish in Lancaster County, said local people were trying to follow Jesus' teachings in dealing with the "terrible hurt."
"I don't think there's anybody here that wants to do anything but forgive and not only reach out to those who have suffered a loss in that way but to reach out to the family of the man who committed these acts," he told CNN.