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Ultimate Fist
10-25-2006, 12:19 AM
"Be The Change You Want To See In The World."

OK Wu Corp can't save the world alone but each of us, every human being, is a seed that will grow into something with time. When we are fully grown, the people of the world eat our fruit. If it is good we spread health and well being. Otherwise, if it is bad, people are poisoned from us and might even die. That fruit is our words and our ideas. Don't think anything you do doesn't affect the entire world with time. If you piss someone off and they get in road rage later and run over the diplomat from North Korea shit is fucked. So to help you improve as individuals to change the world, I have collected a series of links dedicated to world peace.

This first one is University of Berekely's nonviolence course. I am going through the entire course, watching two lectures a week, Thursday and Saturday night (starting tommorow). If anyone would like to join me in this practice I would love to discuss the lectures here.

http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses/archive.php?seriesid=1906978360

This next one is Living Values, a martial arts ethics system based in Bujinkan:

http://www.livingvalues.com/toc.htm

And my favorite article:

http://www.livingvalues.com/hunting.htm

For my muslim brothers (this is a little New Agey but it has good points) AND espcially the skeptics, those who fear Islam:

Islam And World Peace: Explanations Of A Sufi

http://www.bmf.org/iswp/

I'd like to suggest that those who find these teachings useful teach 10 others about this stuff. It needs to spread And most of all practice it!

Peace!

Ultimate Fist
10-25-2006, 12:26 AM
Here is prayer, for Christians who may feel left out as I mentioned the muslim book

http://www.success.org/Peace/Prayer.shtml

snapple
10-25-2006, 01:16 AM
if its world peace i'll check it out, not right now though im fucked up in all types of ways

Sicka than aidZ
10-25-2006, 01:31 AM
YEAH RIGHT ON KEEP THIS UP ULTIMATE..... IF ANYONE HATEZ IN THIS THREAD THEY'RE DUMBER THAN HELL. LHX BEEN SAYING THE INTERNET IS THE PERFECT NEGOTIATION TABLE AND OPPURTUNITY TO BUILD FOR A BETTER TOMORROW. I WANNA SEE WHAT HE THINKS. THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET LUV FROM THE CLAN, THAT SHIT'Z BEEN BUGGIN ME FOR A MINUTE HOW THEY DONT LIKE US, THIS IS GREAT. PEACE

Prince Rai
10-25-2006, 11:04 AM
the fact that there are more individuals on the corp, who make the effort to spread peace, is very beautiful.

whether this is possible is a matter of debate, but every journey begins with the first step.

props for this thread, and blessings on those who will keep this thread clean.

Deft One
10-25-2006, 04:14 PM
Have you guys ever heard of a religion/philosophy called Cao Dai? Its basiclly a movement trying to achieve the same thing I thought you might find it interesting.
http://www.caodai.org

LHX
10-25-2006, 04:42 PM
ill pin this for a while -- see how it develops

LHX
10-25-2006, 04:51 PM
first question to yall:

what makes activists go wrong?

how come in all the years of activism, nothing has been done? (or things get worse)

why are activists often just as destructive as typical mall-rats?

how is it that the activist lifestyle has become trendy?



this is clearly an obstacle to progress



i know a lot of folks who become activists just so they can find new people to fuck

Sicka than aidZ
10-25-2006, 07:31 PM
there'z those environmental activistz like ELF an shit. They burned down that ski lodge in aspen or some shit. there just fuckin stupid if u ask me. Go burn down someone importantz house. I dont know terminate arnoldz crib

Ultimate Fist
10-25-2006, 09:12 PM
first question to yall:

what makes activists go wrong?

They have an overly romanticized view of what they need to do. I blame a lot of it on the hippies. Gandhi and Martin Luther King knew they had a job to do and were very responsible as far as what they said and did. The hippies on the other hand were very "us vs. them" "Fuck the system" oriented. They thought they were going to overthrow the powers that be, which was an over-idealized view of what they needed to do at that time. If they had just focused on Vietnam, the issue at hand, and put their energy into it, instead on doing drugs, blowing stuff up, etc. they would have left a better legacy.


how come in all the years of activism, nothing has been done? (or things get worse)

A lot more has been done than you think. Often it is not as apparent because we take for granted the things in our world that were brought to us by activism- minimum wage, integration, not having human body parts in our food (read Upton Sinclair) At the very least activism withdraws consent, limiting the powers that be and often creating a counter-power.


why are activists often just as destructive as typical mall-rats?

Because those fools aren't as well read on the subject as they usually act.

how is it that the activist lifestyle has become trendy?

You can trace it back to the hippies again. A lot of baby boomers (and their kids hearing from their parents) remember those days and want to be "world changing activists" too often without properly preparing for the effort.

this is clearly an obstacle to progress



i know a lot of folks who become activists just so they can find new people to fuck

I wrote in the original quote. Look up.

LHX
10-25-2006, 09:22 PM
can you edit that post so its easier to follow?


in response:

what specifically have activists 'accomplished' that wasnt in capitalists best interest anyway?

all minimum wage does was give employers a scape goat to continue paying meager wages and saying that they arent doing anything wrong



people working 40 hours a week and not even bringing home $300

thats sick

back in the '50s and '60s, we were supposed to be having 2 or 3-day work weeks by now



should a responsible activist be seeking social change first?
or encouraging people to save self


'be the change you want to see...' - but nobody even knows what change they want to see in the world


people want to get away from being under pressure, but they dont want to get rid of their entertainment tools

electricity junkies

Ultimate Fist
10-25-2006, 09:30 PM
I didn't multiquote so now its like impossible to edit. To your question, yes lifestyle change is needed first. That's what I'm getting at. How are you going to do anything peaceful if you're full of hate? How are you going to know what the real underlying problems are if you're relying on pop culture interpretations of the issue? Research is very necessary at the organizing level. Right now, I'm just trying to educate people on the tactics and ideas so they can grow in their minds. Perhaps they'll find an application for them in their daily lives and they can educate people on the issue, resist it etc? I'm keeping this somewhat vague for that reason.

As to minimum wage, we would be more screwed if we didn't have it. In labor protest espcially, its often a losing battle but its worth a try.

Ultimate Fist
10-25-2006, 09:36 PM
Some more tactics...

Dr. Martin Luther King's Four Step Program

1. Gather Information: If you don't have the right info how do you know what the real issue is? You must research and go beyond a common understanding of the issue.

2. Negotiation: Negotiate with the powers that be. Sometimes a compromise can be made.

3. Self-purification: Activism will be needed if negotiations fall through. Workshops are held to teach non-violence. These workshops are held during shopping season to have an economic affect. Boycotts are organized to stop "feeding the beast".

4. Direct Action: Act directly to stop what's going on but nonviolently, otherwise you discredit yourself with everyday people.
ex. Sit in at a segregated diner.

LHX
10-25-2006, 09:40 PM
I didn't multiquote so now its like impossible to edit. To your question, yes lifestyle change is needed first. That's what I'm getting at. How are you going to do anything peaceful if you're full of hate? How are you going to know what the real underlying problems are if you're relying on pop culture interpretations of the issue? Research is very necessary at the organizing level. Right now, I'm just trying to educate people on the tactics and ideas so they can grow in their minds. Perhaps they'll find an application for them in their daily lives and they can educate people on the issue, resist it etc? I'm keeping this somewhat vague for that reason.

As to minimum wage, we would be more screwed if we didn't have it. In labor protest espcially, its often a losing battle but its worth a try.

lail

how could we be more screwed?

maybe it would have been bad enough for something to have been done by now


how about talking about yourself personally?

how much more abuse are you willing to tolerate than what you are currently facing now?

what more can be taken from you?


also:
what kind of 'tactics' are there that have not been discussed or attempted?

ElusiveFugitive
10-25-2006, 09:40 PM
"Be The Change You Want To See In The World."

OK Wu Corp can't save the world alone but each of us, every human being, is a seed that will grow into something with time. When we are fully grown, the people of the world eat our fruit. If it is good we spread health and well being. Otherwise, if it is bad, people are poisoned from us and might even die. That fruit is our words and our ideas. Don't think anything you do doesn't affect the entire world with time. If you piss someone off and they get in road rage later and run over the diplomat from North Korea shit is fucked. So to help you improve as individuals to change the world, I have collected a series of links dedicated to world peace.

This first one is University of Berekely's nonviolence course. I am going through the entire course, watching two lectures a week, Thursday and Saturday night (starting tommorow). If anyone would like to join me in this practice I would love to discuss the lectures here.

http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses/archive.php?seriesid=1906978360

This next one is Living Values, a martial arts ethics system based in Bujinkan:

http://www.livingvalues.com/toc.htm

And my favorite article:

http://www.livingvalues.com/hunting.htm

For my muslim brothers (this is a little New Agey but it has good points) AND espcially the skeptics, those who fear Islam:

Islam And World Peace: Explanations Of A Sufi

http://www.bmf.org/iswp/

I'd like to suggest that those who find these teachings useful teach 10 others about this stuff. It needs to spread And most of all practice it!

Peace!

Great thread Ultimate, I agree with what you have said above. I try to live my life as a "complete" person - one whos actions, words and intentions are designed to improve the quality of life for those around them in all things. I am also a student of the Bujinkan system of Martial arts....The link below is to a festival held in Aotearoa, NZ which is coming up in January 2007 to celebrate the passive resistance movement my ancestors adopted in the late 19th Century to colonial land thefts and cultural assimilation. This pre-dates Mahatma Gandhi & Martin Luther Kings struggles in the 20th Century. I am proudly involved in this festival along with other members of my extended family and will be managing the poetry area. www.parihaka.com

LHX
10-25-2006, 09:42 PM
Some more tactics...

Dr. Martin Luther King's Four Step Program

1. Gather Information: If you don't have the right info how do you know what the real issue is? You must research and go beyond a common understanding of the issue.

2. Negotiation: Negotiate with the powers that be. Sometimes a compromise can be made.

3. Self-purification: Activism will be needed if negotiations fall through. Workshops are held to teach non-violence. These workshops are held during shopping season to have an economic affect. Boycotts are organized to stop "feeding the beast".

4. Direct Action: Act directly to stop what's going on but nonviolently, otherwise you discredit yourself with everyday people.
ex. Sit in at a segregated diner.

this is good Fist

nice reference

Ultimate Fist
10-25-2006, 09:51 PM
That's awesome ElusiveFugitive! Passive resistance has been used throughout history and its very important for us to remember this isn't something new. There has always been passive resistance and there always will be.

LHX
10-25-2006, 09:52 PM
and oh yeah - theres that one other problem as evidenced by all those internet beef threads

there is no way to prove that anybody is who they claim to be or do what they claim to do on the internet

for all i know, everybody here spends their time jerking off to anime porn, eating fast food and driving cars wiff poor fuel efficiency


we need 24 hour a day surveillance

thats what righteous people need to do

i need a 24 hour a day live video feed following me around


we need to take away everybodys ability to front

Urban_Journalz
10-25-2006, 10:14 PM
Peace fist.
Thanks for those links and the thread man.

Ultimate Fist
11-02-2006, 08:59 PM
So has anyone read any of this stuff over in detail. I'm curious to hear more on what people thought.

LHX
11-17-2006, 07:40 AM
looks like this is too much of a commitment for anybody right now

one day one of these type of threads will get popping

good lookin tho Fist

thanks for bringing this to attention

Alesco
11-17-2006, 08:03 AM
So has anyone read any of this stuff over in detail. I'm curious to hear more on what people thought.

I have read some of it fist.

But if it means any thing to you. You have my RESPECT

Stay deep my brother

PEACE