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Civilison
10-29-2006, 12:04 AM
the best athlete wants his opponent at his best
the best general enters the mind of his enemy
the best businessman serves the communal good
the best leader follows the will of the people

all of them embody the virtue of non-competition
not that they dont love to compete,
but they do it in the spirit of the play
in this they are like children
and in harmony with the tao

i just feel like this chapter has a lot of significance

this is an interesting formula that could be applied to global politics

"not that they dont love to compete,
but they do it in the spirit of the play"

... in harmony with the natural rhythm of the environment

crazy man...

the silencer
10-29-2006, 12:26 AM
wow ur translation is pretty different than mine...

could u expand on what ur saying tho??

Civilison
10-29-2006, 12:32 AM
wow ur translation is pretty different than mine...

could u expand on what ur saying tho??

yeah man...

its not about how powerful people that run the world are (all the goverments) but how physically, mentally and spiritually satisfying our life shaping institutions are and how much influence these people have on this. back in the day the leaders were leading in the spirit of the rightous play - the drama we call life. they did so with a high sucess in terms of human relations and handling earthly resources.

this chapter can be looked at from many different angles... this is just one of them

peace to you

Urban_Journalz
10-29-2006, 08:14 AM
Yo Civil, is this from "The Tao Te Ching"??

LHX
10-29-2006, 08:18 AM
is this from "The Tao Te Ching"??

yes

Deft One
10-30-2006, 12:22 AM
The idea of passivity in daoism is brilliant to me and its a great outlook on life & moral society.

Better by far to see the simplicity
of raw silk's beauty
and the uncarved block;
to be one with onself,
and with one's brother.
It is better by far
to be one with the Tao,
developing selflessness,
tempering desire,
removing the wish,
but being compassionate.


I like the focus on the simple and the potential of the uncarved block being of higher value than what its made of; a metaphor to the potential of the mind and never committing to one thought. Daoist scripture and philosophy is extremely interesting to me even though I've only had the pleasure of reading a small amount of it. I like its unique style and I'm interested to know if you could recommend any reading materials other than the Tao Te Chin which I'm workin on now. Thx for any suggestions.