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V4D3R
11-10-2006, 12:15 AM
This is a build I started on Raplevel last year. I think it would be a better hit if mixed in here because it turned out whack on Raplevel. I think it's interesting to ponder since what I've accrued in knowledge/wisdom/UNDERstanding is different from back then.

Let's build on this - it's deep.
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A dude literaly employed the services of a forensic profiler and evidence technician to come to startling conclusions.

Quote: Allah says he is. In the Koran, the god of the Israelites melts into the god of Islam: “And We gave the Book to Moses and ordained it for guidance to the children of Israel—‘that ye take no gods other than me’” (Sura 17.2). “To the Jews did We forbid every beast having an entire hoof, and of both bullocks and sheep We forbade them the fat, save what might be on their backs or their entrails, and the fat attached to the bone” (6.147).

In the Bible, Yahweh is strangely mum touching the matter. Being omniscient, he must have foreseen the sectarian dissension that rival claims to the celestial throne would produce. If he is Allah, why didn’t he announce he would vouchsafe further revelations to an Arabian prophet named Muhammed? Yahweh might thereby have obviated centuries of enmity, distrust, and carnage engendered by an unwarranted cleavage between infidel and believer. If, on the other hand, Allah has stolen Yahweh’s identity, why didn’t Yahweh alert posterity to his perfidious machinations? He could have attached a pithy rider to the First Commandment: “Thou shalt have no other gods besides me. Especially an imposter named Allah.”

So much for what ifs. Since Yahweh, in his inscrutable wisdom, maintained silence, it behooves the creature to determine whether Muslims and “the people of the Book”—Jews and Christians—worship the same deity. Seeking a dispassionate analysis of the pertinent data, I enlisted the services of an evidence technician and a forensic profiler affiliated with the International Institute for the Investigation of Fraudulent Deities. Neither entertained any sectarian prepossessions.

After perusing the Koran and the Bible, the experts collated numerous “correlative links” between Allah and Yahweh, among which are these:

* Each created the heavens and the earth in six days.
* Each called the first man, whom he created, Adam.
* Each has a favorite people.
* Each is called God, Almighty, All-knowing, King, Everlasting, Most High.
* Each is merciful, forgiving, jealous, angry, vengeful, and wrathful.
* Each is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnific.
* Each assumes human form and uses human language.
* Each employs angelic messengers.
* Each is opposed by a wicked angelic adversary.
* Each inspired the biblical prophets: Abraham, Moses, Noah, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon, Job, Jonah, Zechariah, Jesus, et al.
* Each works miracles and answers prayers.
* Each subjects woman to man, licenses polygamy, and condones slavery.
* Each regulates diet and hygiene.
* Each enjoins gifts to priests and propitiatory sacrifices.
* Each has a proclivity for thematic and verbal repetition.
* Each monitors human thoughts and deeds.
* Each edifies believers by chastening them..
* Each hardens the heart of enemies so they will not repent.
* Each stigmatizes criticism and rational inquiry.
* Each demands charity to orphans, the sick, the feeble, and the poor.
* Each afflicts, maims, or kills the disobedient, particularly those who worship false gods.
* Each exalts war on infidels.

In the judgment of the specialists, the rife similarities offer “provisory support” for Allah’s claim that he and Yahweh are one. The hitch: Yahweh mustn’t be the biological father of Jesus. Allah is childless. For him, sons “add gods to God,” the worst form of polytheism. Jesus, per Allah, is a prophet on whom he conferred divine power, authority, and privilege: “And in the footsteps of the prophets caused We Jesus, the son of Mary, to follow, confirming the Law, which was before him: and We gave him the Evangel with its guidance and light, a confirmatory of the preceding Law” (Sura 5.50). The Koranic Jesus vouches for Allah (and Muhammed): “O children of Israel! Of a truth I am God’s apostle to you to confirm the Law which was given before me, and to announce an apostle that shall come after me whose name shall be Ahmad” (61.6).

In the Gospels, Jesus sometimes calls himself “son of God,” but the epithet, surmised the evidence technician, may be figurative since Jesus also applies it to his followers: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God” (Matt. 5.9). When Jesus is baptized, a heavenly voice says: “Thou art my beloved son; with thee am I well pleased” (Mark 1.11). Confirmation Yahweh fathered Jesus? “Even if the voice is Yahweh’s,” the technician allowed, “‘son’ may have a generic rather than a genetic import since all Jews were figurativelyYahweh’s children. That’s why they (and Christians) invoke ‘our Father which art in heaven.’”

The technician wondered whether the “extant textual data” were tainted. Allah, she noted, is preoccupied with eschatological matters—Resurrection, the Last Judgment, Heaven, Hell—whereas in the New Testament these concerns are intermittent and in the Old Testament virtually nonexistent. Allah indefatigably recounts the eternal sensuous delights that await believers, especially males, and implacably gloats at the horrific fate in store for those who scoff at him or Muhammed. “It out-Jesuses Jesus’s wailing and gnashing of teeth,” said the technician.

“If the texts are pristine,” the profiler quipped, “Allah née Yahweh is getting crotchety in his old age.”

http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/IsAllahYahweh.html

V4D3R
11-10-2006, 12:33 AM
One thing I see found is how in the gnostic text "The Gospel of Judas" - Jesus laughs at the apostles for praying thanks to the "God" of this world(earth). The apostles were clearly upset that he was laughing. So Jesus asked them - "Who among you is brave enough to know me for who I really am?"

"The one you pray thanks to is not my Father"

So basically - Judas stood up and said he knows who he really is and who sent him and that he wasent worthy to say his name. Jesus then proceeds to tell Judas the plan to have him set-up to remove the man that clothes him.

Seems to me that there might be more then one creator somehow - but one Ultimate All Mighty.

Visionz
11-10-2006, 12:47 AM
I don't have much to add on, since you pretty well covered it. I believe that they are One and the same. The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. If they were somehow different, ( I've heard individual accusations that the devil authored the Old Testament and the Quran) you'd see more differences between the books, and quite simply the differences are in the details. The overall themes are consistently the same.

Visionz
11-10-2006, 12:49 AM
One thing I see found is how in the gnostic text "The Gospel of Judas" - Jesus laughs at the apostles for praying thanks to the "God" of this world(earth). The apostles were clearly upset that he was laughing. So Jesus asked them - "Who among you is brave enough to know me for who I really am?"

"The one you pray thanks to is not my Father"

So basically - Judas stood up and said he knows who he really is and who sent him and that he wasent worthy to say his name. Jesus then proceeds to tell Judas the plan to have him set-up to remove the man that clothes him.

Seems to me that there might be more then one creator somehow - but one Ultimate All Mighty. But didn't they just find the testament of Judah? I wasn't aware that it had already been translated.

knewcheeze
11-11-2006, 10:25 AM
PEACE
Master Fard Muhammad is Allah who is the leader of the counsil of the Gods/Scientists/Angels

the King of KIngs Lord of Lords Haile Selassie the first is Jah-hova/Yahweh

Kephrem
11-11-2006, 02:37 PM
The word Allah (AhLa) comes from the original Hebrew language and meant "power". It is a title rather then the name of God. As for "Yahweh" it is not the name of God, but rather YHWH in it's *correct pronounciation* is. These both refer to Black Jesus Christ.

Koolish
11-12-2006, 10:46 AM
The word Allah (AhLa) comes from the original Hebrew language and meant "power". It is a title rather then the name of God. As for "Yahweh" it is not the name of God, but rather YHWH in it's *correct pronounciation* is. These both refer to Black Jesus Christ.

that's know the ledge people, you get your scholarly information with your NOI twist.

knewcheeze
11-12-2006, 12:41 PM
twist?

uhhh...eyem not gonna waste my time but...in the original hebrew torah the word for God is ELOHEEM......which translated means "THE GODS"

the godsssssss(plural)sssssssss

bumba-poosh

GRENADE
11-12-2006, 01:04 PM
``if u really know whats' the icing on the cake read the book of the end....
then add on what you have hee then you have some what of a complete story