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J-Cee
11-20-2006, 02:31 AM
This is apparently a video smuggled out from Area 51,an interview with an alien.Take it as u want.

http://www.eyepod.org/Video-Alien-Interview.html

This video purports to be of an grey alien (http://www.crowdedskies.com/grey_alien.htm) being filmed through a one way mirror and being questioned by a U.S. General and a telepathic aide.
The footage first came to light on the Art Bell radio show on 13th March, 1997 when ufologist Sean David Morton was interviewed. Morton claimed the interrogation was fairly recent, sometime in 1996, and that renowned UFO expert Bob Dean apparently cried at the advanced screening of the film.
Famed author Whitley Strieber who wrote about his close encounter experiences in the book, "Communion," stated, "There are things about this footage that are particularly striking. Some of the least known features reported by witnesses are presented here. If this tape is not authentic, then it must have been made by people with very special inside knowledge."
The color video footage, which lasts for a total of two minutes and fifty-five seconds, was apparently smuggled out of the secret Groom Lake "Area 51" facility in Nevada by a man referring to himself as "Victor". The video film depicts a Grey alien (http://www.crowdedskies.com/grey_alien.htm) being interrogated at the government facility.
After claiming to have smuggled the film out of the Groom Lake facility in Nevada, Victor resolved to have the footage broadcast on network television as soon as possible in order to publicly expose his claims. Victor believes that if his identity is discovered and he is subsequently assassinated, this would only further help to confirm the claims and authenticity behind the film.

Contents Of The Video

After seeing the interview footage, Morton provides a chilling and detailed description of what he saw:
"The film was shot through a large plane of glass. There was no sound accompanying the images. The interview took place in a darkened room, lit with an eerie greenish glow, I could make out the silhouettes of two men, one dressed in military uniform with what appeared to be the stars on the epaulet of his jacket, and another more casually dressed man with his hand occasionally rubbing his forehead. They sat with their backs to the camera at one end of a long table, which was littered with wires, chords and microphones. There were what appeared to be medical devices. One in particular was blinking erratically, as if it was monitoring a very sick heart. And there sitting at the end of the table was a small, beige-skinned, black-eyed, bulbous headed creature, the like of which haunt the nightmares of thousands of unwilling abductees."
Morton made many references to the creature's sick appearance and condition. The alien made very jerky movements and kept bobbing up and down. He continued to describe the apparently distressed state the creature was in.
"Its skin was a pinkish beige, but the rest of the head looked purple and bruised, as if it had suffered severe contusions across the skull."
The contents of the tape grew progressively more disturbing. Towards the end of the tape, the creature goes into what appears to be violent spasms, as if it was having a seizure. The mouth of the alien opens and closes before a foam begins to come out. At that point the heart monitor (as described by Morton) begins to start jumping wildly, at which point the man in the military looking uniform signals to a couple of medics, who rush into the frame and aid the alien. As the doctors treat the alien, the footage suddenly comes to an abrupt end.

Fact or Fiction?

The authenticity of the footage is seen differently by many people. Morton is convinced the footage is real due to strong relationships with stories of alien abductees and the information on the footage in the lower part of the frame.
The video footage has the characters DNI/27 burnt into the bottom line of the frame, along with what appears to be the time code numbers for date, minutes and seconds. The letters DNI could be an acronym for the Department of Naval Intelligence, the group responsible for the Area 51 base. The DNI connection to Area 51 has been widely investigated. George Knapp, the TV journalist who encouraged Bob Lazar to go public with his knowledge has shown that Lazar's pay cheques from the time he claimed to be working at Area 51 had DNI stamped on them.
Whether its all true or not - you'll just have to decide yourself. But bear in mind that since the films release into the public domain in 1996 NO-ONE has come forward to claim credit for a hoax!

Post up other footage and couments of any proof of alien existence.

Robert
11-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Hmmmmm........................

Strange Fruit
11-20-2006, 10:36 AM
^^hmmmm is right,,,
for ages, people have been trying to prove the theories
of life on other planets.

many have said it impossible because there needs to be water,
in order for life to happen.

but that's for humans.
if there are other beings, i'm sure they have other ways of
existance.

but who cares anyway?
not putting down your thread, the info you posted is
pretty chilling stuff,,,

but i mean, if there is life there,,,
cool.
but the footage people have been producing over
the years gets more bogus each time.

if aliens wanted to be found,
they'd have made UFO floats
with "coming to earth" themes,
and staged a parade.

but they haven't.
so let's leave 'em.

humans are always trying to find answers for things that
dont involve us,,,

we should really start here on earth.
this place is fucked up.

***

J-Cee
11-20-2006, 10:43 AM
But Something like the existence of aliens is huge,imagine the way the world would be changed if we came in contact with them..let alone the technology wed gain from them...they could have technology beyond our wildest dreams,it could change alot of things for good..And i think we have made contact with them jsut the government is covering it up.

LHX
11-20-2006, 10:46 AM
maybe they like tennis

Strange Fruit
11-20-2006, 10:46 AM
orrrr,,,,, they could know nothing and may have
no knowledge of computers whatsoever.

but why spend millions on the gamble?

iniquity
11-20-2006, 03:56 PM
.. rofl @ that video .. you can't be serious .. :lmao: ..

Dirty Knowledge
11-20-2006, 05:47 PM
What is this? A deleted scene from Independance Day? Wake me up when Will Smith puts a cap in this bitch.

First off, how come this alien is portrayed as the usual little green creature we're accustomed to seeing in most alien films? This is a stereotypical alien figure and what one would look like. If there is life out there, I don't expect them to look like Hollywood's picture perfect portrait of an alien. Typical Internet stuff.

My First Timbs
11-20-2006, 06:12 PM
indeed.. typical human biased internet stuff

in order to believe this vid is of a real alien we would first have to assume that the same mechanism of biological evolution that occurred on earth, occurred similarly on other planets! (this is highly unlikely!!)

thus, if another intelligent life form is ever found, do not expect it to have what we define as a "head", "arms", 2 eyes" etc!

all of these things are humanoid concepts based on biological evolution that occurs on earth!

oLd_KaiNry
11-20-2006, 06:29 PM
that looks so fake

born invincible
11-20-2006, 07:18 PM
But Something like the existence of aliens is huge,imagine the way the world would be changed if we came in contact with them..let alone the technology wed gain from them...they could have technology beyond our wildest dreams,it could change alot of things for good..And i think we have made contact with them jsut the government is covering it up.

or the could come here to enslave the human race for their own sinister purposes!!!!!!!

Dirk Daring
11-20-2006, 09:31 PM
that was a good job on uncovering the alien interview and providing the video

born invincible
11-20-2006, 09:41 PM
in all honesty that shit looked mad fake to me.... no disrespect or nothing but its gonna take more than some shit like to convince me. i do believe that its unlikely that we are alone in the galaxy but that video is a bit silly....

snapple
11-20-2006, 09:58 PM
^^hmmmm is right,,,
for ages, people have been trying to prove the theories
of life on other planets.

many have said it impossible because there needs to be water,
in order for life to happen.

but that's for humans.
if there are other beings, i'm sure they have other ways of
existance.

but who cares anyway?
not putting down your thread, the info you posted is
pretty chilling stuff,,,

but i mean, if there is life there,,,
cool.
but the footage people have been producing over
the years gets more bogus each time.

if aliens wanted to be found,
they'd have made UFO floats
with "coming to earth" themes,
and staged a parade.

but they haven't.
so let's leave 'em.

humans are always trying to find answers for things that
dont involve us,,,

we should really start here on earth.
this place is fucked up.

***

ding ding ding....victory by knockout

J-Cee
11-20-2006, 11:38 PM
could be fake could be real,dont know either way,no one has come out saying its a hoax.As for the person saying that they might take over earth..if there are aliens and they wanted to do us harm they would of done it along time ago,we are probably more hostile then they are,more chance of us hurting them.
And whoever said that they might not have any technology..well if they can travel in a UFO to earth then thats valuable technology right there.
Why cant an alien look like that..if theres been countless reports of abductions through hypnosis etc all saying they look the same,government witnesses saying they look like this..why can they?more evidence pointing to a creature looking like this then anything else.

J-Cee
11-20-2006, 11:40 PM
ive read alot of shit on the subject for years thats why i have a more open mind to these things..might be fake but i dunno.

Frontal Lobotomy
11-21-2006, 01:12 AM
That video is bogus. There is no way you'll ever find raw footage that can prove aliens have been here on the internet. The US, or any other government won't say this kind of thing is a hoax, as people like believing that aliens have been here and Area 51 is some kind of test site for alien tech and whatnot, these stories have charm, and make the US government in this case look as though they got hold of some hardcore stuff. In reality, the likelyhood of anyone intercepting alien spacecraft and shooting it out of the sky with conventional weapons is a farce. Now I'm not saying that other intelligence hasn't come here to check us out, but the testimony that makes the mainstream is false, and is intended to misguide people into believing in something that can be controlled, and maintained without any real effort.

the silencer
11-21-2006, 01:15 AM
the video was ridiculously fake..

but i totally believe in UFOs

J-Cee
11-21-2006, 02:23 AM
see heres coming strong opinions..but really you dont know.u cant just say "Bullshit"..we dont know until were proven so.
Why couldnt there be footage like this that shows an alien..lol..if is it a cover up and someone one the inside decided to reveal it..why not?

born invincible
11-21-2006, 08:14 AM
As for the person saying that they might take over earth..if there are aliens and they wanted to do us harm they would of done it along time ago

in all honesty... we have no way of knowing wha their possible intentions could be. so it can go both ways... peacefully... or with hostility. and more than likely, if its hostile, we will be jacked up. considering they have technology to cross galaxies to come here its possible they have technology to wipe us out effortlessly.... but then again, who know?!??!?

J-Cee
11-21-2006, 08:40 AM
yes i guess so,but in my opinion i think they are just as curious of us as we of them if they exist,Humans have existed for a very long time so if UFO's are still spotted today,if they have the technology they have why would they wait thousands of years to hurt us.
If u saw an alien walking towards u in ya backyard..ud prolly try to hurt it right?lol

Frontal Lobotomy
11-22-2006, 12:12 AM
I'd offer him a beer, like in the Grolsch adverts

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
11-22-2006, 03:57 PM
LMAO..That Alien looks like a puppet and moves like a Puppet being pulled by strings!

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
11-22-2006, 04:08 PM
WILLIAM COOPER

http://www.hourofthetime.com/majestyt.htm


The conspiracy is racist, considering Blacks, Hispanics, and Aboriginal Peoples to be inferior races of useless eaters. They believe or at least profess that the Anglo/Aryan race is the true Israel (British Israel and Christian Identity for the dupes and an Anglophile Secular Humanism for the leaders) and thus the Master race. They have convinced the so-called useless eaters that they are friends, benefactors, and protectors. In the meantime they plan to enslave these poor People under socialism or eliminate them altogether. The Illuminati has convinced them that Karl Marx is their savior, and the sheople follow this Judas goat eagerly.

There will be no individual Rights only privileges. These will be granted or denied at will by the world supra government. All property is to be owned by the State. There will be a redistribution of wealth. They plan to eliminate class differences and reduce the standard of living to a lower level in the advanced nations, such as the united States, and to a higher standard of living in the so-called third world nations. This leveling of the standard of living will be accomplished through a global economic collapse which is in its beginning stages. The economic collapse will fulfill the goal of Marx and Engles' Communist Manifesto mandating the elimination of the middle class. The graduated income tax was the first implementation of this process and is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto. NAFTA and GATT are a part of this process encouraging industry to move into third-world nations in order to exploit cheap labor.

All existing religions will disappear. The only religion will be the state religion (humanism or illuminism).

All County and State governments will be eliminated and replaced with regional government. These regional governments (Home Rule) are already in place. Regionalism is gradually taking control throughout America.

There will be no more cash. Trade will be accomplished by a system of computer credits with accounts accessed through debit cards or computer chip implants. The cards or implants will also serve as personal identification, drivers license, and etc. When this is completed the human race will be shackled to a computer in a never ending cycle of debt. No action or movement will ever again be private.

The plan for the creation of a socialist world government is protected by an artificial extraterrestrial threat from space. The entire UFO phenomenon and the uFOOLogy movement has been created to further the protection and activation of the plan.

Within MAJESTYTWELVE is Operation Majority justifying the plan by presenting an extraterrestrial threat as the reason for the necessity for world government ala "Who speaks for planet Earth... Argentina?" Exactly the manner in which Stanton T. Friedman ends his UFOs Are Real lectures.

Operation Majority is named after the original Bolshevik party which sparked the Russian Revolution. Bolshevik means the majority. The plan claims that if the American people are ever told of this extraterrestrial presence aliens will destroy the United States. All who have access to the plan or who inadvertently discover the plan are silenced by that warning. They believe in the government and thus believe the extraterrestrial lie. These dupes do not know that the Illuminati are the aliens who plan to destroy the United States of America in any event.

The natural skepticism of reporters insures that anyone who believes in extraterrestrial visitation or who links the so-called alien threat with the coming world government will be ridiculed and discredited.

When I saw Operation Majority while serving in the Navy I believed the alien threat was real just like everyone else. It was not until I had performed many years of research that I was able to fully understand exactly what it was that I had seen. It was extremely difficult for me to believe that my government and the United States Navy had used me, especially since I had dedicated my life to government and military service. Most government and military personnel cannot and will not believe such and idea.

The plan is real. The extraterrestrial threat is artificial. The threat is presented through the use of secret technology originally developed by the Germans in their secret weapons programs during WW-II, by geniuses like Nikola Tesla, and many others.

Military and government personnel who have access to this material believe it is real. None of them, however, has ever seen any evidence of the existence of any extraterrestrial creature nor any advanced technology other that that of human origin. It is not what they see that convinces them it is extraterrestrial in origin but the manner in which it is presented. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to believe that Top Secret government or military documentation could be lies. It is trust in government by men and women who have given their lives in its service that keeps this monumental lie a alive.

All so-called leaks are intentional misinformation projects designed to promote the alien threat scenario while allowing for complete deniability on the part of government. The antics of Vicki (Cooper) Ecker (CIA), Donald Francis Ecker III (Dupe), William Moore, Jaime Shandera, Stanton T. Friedman, Bruce Maccabee (CIA, ONI), Barry Taff PhD.(Pneuropsychiatric Institute of UCLA worked with recently deceased Dr. Louis Jollyn "Jolly" West), Whitley Strieber, Bud Hopkins (CIA), John Lear (CIA), Linda Moulton Howe Order of the Eastern Star and American Federation of Human Rights (American co-masonry), Art Bell (Freemason), Glen Campbell, George Knapp (Freemason), Colonel Philip Corso (CIA, a monumental liar now Deceased), Richard Hoagland and his Face on Mars, the so-called alien autopsy film, NASA and the Apollo Moon Missions, the so-called Mars Meteorite which was fraudulently promoted as containing fossil evidence of life on Mars, the War Of The Worlds, and many other people and events are projects of this type. Some (very few) of these People are unwitting accomplices in the charade and truly believe in the extraterrestrial threat.

Most of those named, and others not named, are active, and with full knowledge, agents of illuminism/socialism. The most well known are active Fellow Travelers, communist agents of the KGB, the Central Intelligence Agency, or one of the many psychological warfare agencies founded by the Rhodes Round Table Group (The Group), the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and the Council On Foreign Relations.

Exhibit A Exhibit B Exhibit C Exhibit D Exhibit E

The plan to create an artificial extraterrestrial threat to the Earth was first mentioned by the Marxist, John Dewey.

"Some one remarked that the best way to unite all the nations on this globe would be an attack from some other planet. In the face of such an alien enemy, people would respond with a sense of their unity of interest and purpose." John Dewey, New York 1917.

The premise was tested for credibility with the CBS presentation of War Of The Worlds on the CBS Radio Network by Orson Welles and the Mercury Theatre. At 8:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, on the evening of October 30, 1938, the night before All Saints Day, now generally celebrated as Halloween, an estimated six million Americans listened to the famous Orson Welles broadcast, War Of The Worlds. The broadcast described an extraterrestrial invasion from Mars. An estimated one million sheople responded with sustained credulity and fear. Thousands responded with sheer panic.

The broadcast was a psychological warfare experiment conducted by The Princeton Radio Project. The Rockefeller Foundation funded the project in the fall of 1937. An Office of Radio Research was set up with Paul F. Lazarsfeld as director. Frank Stanton and Hadley Cantril were named associate directors. Cantril used a special grant from the General Education Board to study the effects of the broadcast. Cantril published the study as a book titled The Invasion From Mars - A Study In The Psychology Of Panic. It contains a complete script of the broadcast. The book is one of a series of studies sponsored by the Federal Radio Education Committee.

War Of The Worlds, was broadcast by Mercury Theater on the Air, from a microphone in a New York studio of the Columbia Broadcasting System. Council on Foreign Relations member Frank Stanton was a CBS executive. Stanton would later direct Radio Free Europe. Regarding the programs realism Cantril writes, "The sheer dramatic excellence of the broadcast must not be overlooked. The unusual realism of the performance may be attributed to the fact that the early parts of the broadcast fell within the existing standards of judgment of the listeners..."

A few short weeks before this broadcast, millions of listeners had kept their radios tuned for the latest news from a Europe apparently about to go to war. They had learned to expect that musical programs, dramas, broadcasts of all kinds would be cut off in a serious emergency to inform or warn an eager and anxious public. A large proportion of listeners, particularly those in the lower income and educational brackets, have grown to rely more on the radio than on the newspapers for news... On this particular night when the listener tuned to the Mercury Theater, he heard the music of "Ramon Raquello" and his orchestra coming from the "Meridian Room" in the "Park Plaza Hotel" of New York City. Soon after the first piece had begun an announcer broke in: "Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt our program of dance music to bring you a special bulletin from the Intercontinental Radio News."

...This report brought the story of the first explosion on Mars. The music was resumed only to be followed by another break: "Ladies and gentlemen, following on the news given in our bulletin a moment ago, the Government Meteorological Bureau has requested the large observatories of the country to keep an astronomical watch..." This bulletin contains the information that a "huge flaming object, believed to be a meteorite, fell on a farm in the neighborhood of Grovers Mill, New Jersey." The swing band gets in 20 seconds more. Then the invasion continues uninterruptedly..."

The last announcement comes from New York City, the Announcer says,

"I'm speaking from the roof of Broadcasting Building, New York City. The bells you hear are ringing to warn the people to evacuate the city as the Martians approach. Estimated in last two hours three million people have moved out along the roads to the north Hutchison River Parkway still kept open for motor traffic. Avoid bridges to Long Island --hopelessly jammed. All communication with Jersey shore closed ten minutes ago. No more defenses. Our army wiped out -- artillery, air force, everything wiped out. This may the last broadcast. We'll stay here to the end -- People are holding service below us -- in the cathedral. (VOICES SINGING HYMN). Now I look down the harbor. All manner of boats overloaded with fleeing population, pulling out from docks. (SOUND OF BOAT WHISTLES) Streets are all jammed. Noise in crowds like New Year's Eve in city. Wait a minute -- Enemy now in sight above the Palisades. Five great machines. First one is crossing river. I can see it from here, wading the Hudson like a man wading through a brook -- A bulletin's handed to me -- Martian cylinders are falling all over the country. One outside Buffalo, one in Chicago, St. Louis -- seem to be timed and spaced. -- Now the first machine reaches the shore. He stands watching, looking over the city. His steel, cowlish head is even with the skyscrapers. He waits for the others. They rise like a line of new towers on the city's west side -- Now they're lifting their metal hands. This is the end now. Smoke comes out -- black smoke, drifting over the city. People in the streets see it now. They're running towards the East River -- thousands of them, dropping in like rats. Now the smokes spreading faster. It's reached Times Square. People trying to run away from it, but its no use. They're falling like flies. Now the smokes crossing Sixth Avenue -- Fifth Avenue -- 100 yards away -- it's 50 feet --"

The announcer breaks off, and a field artillery radio operator is heard,

"2X2L calling CQ...

2X2L calling CQ...

2X2L calling CQ...New York

Isn't there anyone on the air?

Isn't there anyone...

2x2L_______ (MIDDLE BREAK)"

XX (Roman Numeral 20), X-2, or 2-X are espionage code names for a double-cross. The fictitious call letters can be interpreted by insiders to mean DOUBLE-CROSS [2X] TO HELL [2L].

Hadley Cantril was born in Hyrum Utah on the 16th June 1906. He graduated Dartmouth College with a B. S. in psychology in 1928. He studied in Munich and Berlin (1929-1930). He received a Ph. D. in psychology from Harvard in 1931. In 1949 Cantril received a LL.D. from Washington and Lee University. Cantril taught sociology at Dartmouth College (1931-32), and psychology at Harvard (1932-1935), and Columbia University (1935-36). In 1936 Cantril joined the Princeton psychology department. He remained a member of the department until his death in 1969. In 1950 Cantril authored a book called Tensions that Cause Wars (1950). Hadley Cantril was an active and influential member of the Council On Foreign Relations.

The public believed the War Of The Worlds was an actual news broadcast thus setting the stage for the implementation of an alien threat scenario. The only problem was that the state of the art of technology at that time did not allow for a believable presentation. The development of saucer shaped wingless and tailless flying machines by the Germans during WW-II and the implementation of psychological warfare against the sheople of the world solved the problem.

"In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us realize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world." - President Ronald Reagan, in a speech made to the 42nd General Assembly of the United Nations, Sept. 21, 1987

He inserted it in eight speeches during his time in office.

Say it again Ron.



The following recently released CIA document says it all...

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The announcement of the Jewish Holocaust, the proposal of a World government which would prevent future genocide or wars by the formation of the United Nations in 1945, and the announcement of sightings of "flying saucers" by Kenneth Arnold, an ex-intelligence officer, in 1947 launched the deception.

The natural guilt harbored by the men of the 509th Atomic Bomb Wing after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki made them eager conspirators in orchestrating the faked crash of an extraterrestrial craft and discovery of shaved and surgically altered monkeys near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. The artificial extraterrestrial threat was thus implanted in the mind of the public.

This recently released FBI document blows the lid off Roswell.


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Applying Hitler's concept of the big lie the artificial extraterrestrial threat was nurtured and built into an always present possibility over the next 50 years. Eventually a large percentage of the worlds population found themselves believing in alien ships, extraterrestrial visitation, alien mutilation of animals, and alien abductions of humans, with absolutely no proof that extraterrestrials exist anywhere in the universe, much less that any have ever visited this planet.

The artificial threat is further advanced through the mind control programming of Marxists and communists in Hollywood, radio, television, advertising, publishing houses, and the uFOOLogy movement all of which are in the complete control of the Illuminati and the Intelligence community. Fear is instilled through the incidental use of terror inspired by the cattle and animal mutilation by-products of the governments secret low level radiation monitoring, and the so-called alien abduction scenario induced by state-of-the-art and extremely sophisticated mind control operations.

The propaganda attack against the American People continues through movies. In Star Wars Luke Skywalker (Apollo, Horus, Osiris), the SON of a widow (initiate) goes in search of himself (Secret, lost Word, or Great Work). Jedi Knight Darth Vader (Osiris, Sun Father, Apollo, Doctrine, Lucifer, Master of the FORCE [magic] who has gone over to the Darkside (religion, nationalism, superstition) separates the Princess (the title signifies BECOMING) Lea (Isis - Moon - Church) from the Doctrine (illumination).

Luke falls in love with Lea and begins a sexless, but spiritual relationship with the Princess. This mystical union produces the child HORUS (falcon headed God) which, in the movie, is personified in the illumination of Luke transforming him into an Adept or Priest (Jedi Knight - Sun Son - Adept - Reincarnated Osiris - Apollo - God - Doctrine). He embarks upon a Quest in the Millenium (saviors always return at the millenium) Falcon (Horus as savior) to rescue Princess Lea which results in a confrontation with Vader who imparts knowledge (Intelligence - Fire) resulting in Luke finding the Holy Grail (Bloodline, Identity, Lost Word, Obelisk, Penis, Creative Force, apotheosis). With this knowledge he succeeds in reuniting (uniting in marriage) the Force (doctrine) with Princess Lea (Church) which reestablishes the Order of Jedi Knights (Congregation - full body of Adepts or Priests - sixth root race - evolved and matured mankind - God Race, Horus) producing chaos, rebellion, and the establishment of the New Dawn on the horizon (Horus Risen), the New Age, the New Atlantis, a New World Order, the socialist utopian world.

Same message in the Lion King. But this motion picture goes even further revealing the true malevolence of this deception. The Hyenas portray what the "Order" considers to be the "useless eaters of the world," blacks, Hispanics, and aboriginal peoples. The Lion is the symbol of the Tribe of Judah, the so-called Israel, Christian Identity, British Israel, International Zionism, the Anglo/Aryan race. Don't even think you understand any of this as "important". It is only the manipulation through which the Illuminati plans to wrest complete control of the world... in other words total bullshit.

The true history reveals that "King David" was never the ruler of the nation of "Israel" but conquered "Israel" as the King of "Judah". It was that war into which he sent off the husband of Bathsheba to be killed in the forefront of battle.

The three entertainment programs offered in the Luxor (source of light) Hotel in Las Vegas teach the same thing. Together they are called "The Search for the Obelisk" and is in reality the three degrees in six acts, the number of which is 18 or 6+6+6, the symbol of a man, the illumined man Horus, or the Priest Adept of the Mysteries. All of the "Profane" who attend this program of entertainment emerge as "Master Masons" without portfolio... like the education from Star Wars, the Lion King, and StarTrek, the indoctrination is embedded in the subconscious mind of all who see this propaganda.

These movies represent an insidious indoctrination of the Peoples of the world into the Doctrine of the Mysteries. Children are especially susceptible. If it continues throughout their young lives they are certain to join one of the secret orders or at least lend their approval. You must learn to read the "symbolic language" of the Mysteries in order to guard the minds of your children against the subliminal indoctrination which is being implanted into their eager minds.

Socialists who make movies have desensitized the nation (particularly impressionable youth) to violence and bloodshed. They have fostered the notion that anything goes as long as you don't get caught... that morals are bad. Motion pictures, television, and extremely sophisticated mind control operations are destroying our society.

Who among you really believes that all of a sudden and for no reason whatsoever young children all over the nation pick up firearms and decide to murder their parents, classmates, and teachers? How many of you realize that the majority of these children were receiving treatment (hypnosis and drugs) from mental health professionals? How many of you realize that it is these same mental health professionals who have created the "alien abduction" and "abused children" phenomenon which has surged across the nation? How many of you have ever realized that most so-called mental health professionals are self confessed Marxists. When are you going to stop being ignorant sheople? Have you ever asked yourself why these incidents always happen just before legislators must vote on important gun legislation?

To make interstellar travel believable NASA was created. The Apollo Space Program foisted the idea that man could travel to, and walk upon, the moon. Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commissions Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in a secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney Studios within which was a huge scale mock-up of the moon.

All names, missions, landing sites, and events in the Apollo Space Program echo the occult metaphors, rituals, and symbology of the Illuminati's secret religion. The most transparent was the faked explosion on the spacecraft Apollo 13, named "Aquarius" (new age) at 1:13 (1313 military time) on April 13, 1970 which was the metaphor for the initiation ceremony involving the death (explosion), placement in the coffin (period of uncertainty of their survival), communion with the spiritual world and the imparting of esoteric knowledge to the candidate (orbit and observation of the moon without physical contact), rebirth of the initiate (solution of problem and repairs), and the raising up (of the Phoenix, the new age of Aquarius) by the grip of the lions paw (reentry and recovery of Apollo 13). 13 is the number of death and rebirth, death and reincarnation, sacrifice, the Phoenix, the Christ (perfected soul imprisoned in matter), and the transition from the old to the new. Another revelation to those who understand the symbolic language of the Illuminati is the hidden meaning of the names of the Space Shuttles, "A Colombian Enterprise to Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis... and all Challengers shall be destroyed."

Exploration of the moon stopped because it was impossible to continue the hoax without being discovered. And of course they ran out of pre-filmed episodes.

No man has ever ascended much higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth's surface. At or under that altitude the astronauts are beneath the radiation of the Van Allen Belt and the Van Allen Belt shields them from the extreme radiation which permeates space. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon in any publicly known space program. If man has ever truly been to the moon it has been done in secret and with a far different technology.

The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen Belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, Solar flares, temperature control, and many other problems connected with space travel prevent living organisms leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology. Any intelligent high school student with a basic physics book can prove NASA faked the Apollo moon landings

If you doubt this please explain how the astronauts walked upon the moons surface enclosed in a space suit in full sunlight absorbing a minimum of 265 degrees of heat surrounded by a vacuum... and that is not even taking into consideration any effects of cosmic radiation, Solar flares, micrometeorites, etc. NASA tells us the moon has no atmosphere and that the astronauts were surrounded by the vacuum of space.

Heat is defined as the vibration or movement of molecules within matter. The faster the molecular motion the higher the temperature. The slower the molecular motion the colder the temperature. Absolute zero is that point where all molecular motion ceases. In order to have hot or cold, molecules must be present.

A vacuum is a condition of nothingness where there are no molecules. Vacuums exist in degrees. Some scientists tell us that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum. Space is the closest thing to an absolute vacuum that is known to us. There are so few molecules present in most areas of what we know as "space" that any concept of "hot" or "cold" is impossible to measure. A vacuum is a perfect insulator. That is why a "Thermos" or vacuum bottle is used to store hot or cold liquids in order to maintain the temperature for the longest time possible without re-heating or re-cooling.

Radiation of all types will travel through a vacuum but will not affect the vacuum. Radiant heat from the sun travels through the vacuum of space but does not "warm" space. In fact the radiant heat of the sun has no affect whatsoever until it strikes matter. Molecular movement will increase in direct proportion to the radiant energy which is absorbed by matter. The time it takes to heat matter exposed to direct sunlight in space is determined by its color, its elemental properties, its distance from the sun, and its rate of absorption of radiant heat energy. Space is NOT hot. Space is NOT cold.

Objects which are heated cannot be cooled by space. In order for an object to cool it must first be removed from direct sunlight. Objects which are in the shadow of another object will eventually cool but not because space is "cold". Space is not cold. Hot and cold do not exist in the vacuum of space. Objects cool because the laws of motion dictate that the molecules of the object will slow down due to the resistance resulting from striking other molecules until eventually all motion will stop provided the object is sheltered from the direct and/or indirect radiation of the sun and that there is no other source of heat. Since the vacuum of space is the perfect insulator objects take a very long time to cool even when removed from all sources of heat, radiated or otherwise.

NASA insists the space suits the astronauts supposedly wore on the lunar surface were air conditioned. An air conditioner cannot, and will not work without a heat exchanger. A heat exchanger simply takes heat gathered in a medium such as freon from one place and transfers it to another place. This requires a medium of molecules which can absorb and transfer the heat such as an atmosphere or water. An air conditioner will not and cannot work in a vacuum. A space suit surrounded by a vacuum cannot transfer heat from the inside of the suit to any other place. The vacuum, remember, is a perfect insulator. A man would roast in his suit in such a circumstance.

NASA claims the spacesuits were cooled by a water system which was piped around the body, then through a system of coils sheltered from the sun in the backpack. NASA claims that water was sprayed on the coils causing a coating of ice to form. The ice then supposedly absorbed the tremendous heat collected in the water and evaporated into space. There are two problems with this that cannot be explained away. 1) The amount of water needed to be carried by the astronauts in order to make this work for even a very small length of time in the direct 55 degrees over the boiling point of water (210 degrees F at sea level on Earth) heat of the sun could not have possibly been carried by the astronauts. 2) NASA has since claimed that they found ice in moon craters. NASA claims that ice sheltered from the direct rays of the sun will NOT evaporate destroying their own bogus "air conditioning" explanation.

Remember this. Think about it the next time you go off in the morning with a "vacuum bottle" filled with hot coffee. Think about it long and hard when you sit down and pour a piping hot cup from your thermos to drink with your lunch four hours later... and then think about it again when you pour the last still very warm cup of coffee at the end of the day.

The same laws of physics apply to any vehicle traveling through space. NASA claims that the spacecraft was slowly rotated causing the shadowed side to be cooled by the intense cold of space... an intense cold that DOES NOT EXIST. In fact the only thing that could have been accomplished by a rotation of the spacecraft is a more even and constant heating such as that obtained by rotating a hot dog on a spit. In reality a dish called Astronaut a la Apollo would have been served. At the very least you would not want to open the hatch upon the crafts return.

NASA knows better than to claim, in addition, that a water cooling apparatus such as that which they claim cooled the astronauts suits cooled the spacecraft. No rocket could ever have been launched with the amount of water needed to work such a system for even a very short period of time. Fresh water weighs a little over 62 lbs. per cubic foot. Space and weight capacity were critical given the lift capability of the rockets used in the Apollo Space Program. No such extra water was carried by any mission whatsoever for suits or for cooling the spacecraft.

On the tapes the Astronauts complained bitterly of the cold during their journey and while on the surface of the moon. They spoke of using heaters that did not give off enough heat to overcome the intense cold of space. It was imperative that NASA use this ruse because to tell the truth would TELL THE TRUTH. It is also proof of the arrogance and contempt in which the Illuminati holds the common man.

What we heard is in reality indicative of an over zealous cooling system in the props used during the filming of the missions at the Atomic Energy Commissions Nevada desert test site, where it is common to see temperatures well over 100 degrees. In the glaring unfiltered direct heat of the sun the Astronauts could never have been cold at any time whatsoever in the perfect insulating vacuum of space.

As proof examine the Lunar Lander on display in the Smithsonian Institute and notice the shrouded and encased cone of the rocket engine INSIDE the Lander which is attached above the rocket nozzle at the bottom center of the Lander. It is this rocket engine which supposedly provided the retro thrust upon landing on the moon and the takeoff thrust during takeoff from the moon. In the actual Lunar Lander this engine is present but in the film and pictures of the inside of the Lunar Lander that was "said" to be on the moon the engine is absent. Then examine the Lunar Lander simulator and you will see exactly where the fake footage was filmed.

It would also be a good idea for you to measure the dimensions of the astronauts in their spacesuits and then measure the actual usable dimensions of the hatch that they had to use to egress and ingress the Lander. Also measure the inside dimensions of the actual Lander and you will see that the astronauts (liars) could not have possibly left or entered in their suits through that hatch. Notice the position of the hinge of the hatch and then examine the Lunar Lander training simulator and measure all the dimensions noted above taking care to note the position of the hinge on the much larger hatch and you may become "illumined"... so to speak.

NASA claims that the space suits worn by the astronauts were pressurized at 5 psi over the ambient pressure (0 psi vacuum) on the moon's surface. We have examined the gloves NASA claims the astronauts wore and find they are made of pliable material containing no mechanical, hydraulic, or electrical devices which would aid the astronauts in the dexterous use of their fingers and hands while wearing the gloves. Experiments prove absolutely that such gloves are impossible to use and that the wearer cannot bend the wrist or fingers to do any dexterous work whatsoever when filled with 5 psi over ambient pressure either in a vacuum or in the earth's atmosphere. NASA actually showed film and television footage of astronauts using their hands and fingers normally during their EVAs on the so-called lunar surface. The films show clearly that there is no pressure whatsoever within the gloves... a condition that would have caused explosive decompression of the astronauts resulting in almost immediate death if they had really been surrounded by the vacuum of space.

If you don't believe it try it yourself... it is a very simple experiment and does not require a rocket scientist to perform. These are just a few of over a hundred very simple and very easy to prove valid scientific reasons why NASA and the Apollo Space Program are two of the biggest lies ever foisted upon the unsuspecting and trusting People of the world.

We attempted to obtain data on Solar activity and in particular Solar flares which may have been active during the Apollo Moon Missions. We found that data is available for any day of any year during which data has been collected EXCEPT the days and hours of all of the Apollo Moon shots. That data can not be obtained from any government agency including NASA, NOAA, or the Naval Observatory. This is data that is normally collected and would have been used in calculating the dates of launch, dates and times of EVAs, and extreme radiation hazard. It would have been monitored during times of extra vehicular activity (EVA) of the astronauts while on the moon... that is if any astronauts were ever on the moon. The data is not available because it would demonstrate that the so-called astronauts would have been fried crisp. They would have returned to the earth DEAD if they had actually attempted any such missions.

In addition most, if not all, of the photos, films, and videotape of the Apollo Moon Missions are easily proven to be fake. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of studio photography, studio lighting, and the reality of Lunar physics can easily prove that NASA faked the visual records of the Apollo Space Program. No color film known to man, then or now, had or has the latitude to produce the excellent detail found in shadow and highlighted areas of the photographs supposedly taken on the moon. Any professional photographer can tell you that those photographs could only have been produced in a controlled environment using studio lighting and could not possibly have been produced in full sunlight in a vacuum on the moon. Some are so obviously fake that when the discrepancies are pointed out to unsuspecting viewers an audible gasp has been heard. Some have actually gone into a mild state of shock. Some People break down and cry. I have seen others become so angry that they have ripped the offending photos to shreds while screaming incoherently.

Kleinknect, the head of Operations at NASA at the time of the Apollo Space Program, is now is now a 33rd Degree Freemason who's brother is the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction. It was his reward for pulling it off. All of the first astronauts were Freemasons. There is a photograph in the House of the Temple in Washington DC of Neil Armstrong on the surface of the Moon (supposedly) in his spacesuit holding his Masonic Apron in front of his groin. All of the senior officials of NASA have been, and are, members of the Illuminati, Marxists, or communists.

The Soviet Union planned only one manned moon mission. Soviet cosmonauts related to me that their astronauts were literally COOKED by the extreme radiation in space when sent into high orbit through the Van Allen Belt. The USSR never again attempted to send men into or above the Van Allen Belt. If man could not survive the extreme radiation of the Van Allen Belt how could they put a man on the Moon? The Soviet Union scrapped their Man On The Moon program.

The effect upon the people of the world was that if we could go to the moon other creatures from other worlds could travel to our Earth. The escalation of the artificial alien threat scenario since that time is obvious.

The recent revelations of the fraudulent nature of NASA and the Apollo space program by the Intelligence Service and others has resulted in a flood of propaganda, television programs, and films designed to keep the sheople trapped in an ignorant deep sleep. The most ambitious are "Apollo 13" and "From the Earth to the Moon", both involving the actor/producer Tom Hanks. The latter opens with a monologue by Mr. Hanks who walks forward revealing a huge representation of the "God" Apollo (Sun, Osiris, lost word, etc.) guiding his chariot pulled by 4 horses through the heavens.

Why Apollo? Why the Sun? Why the dawn? Get a clue. Go to the Rotunda of the Capitol Building in Washington D.C., stand in the exact middle of the Rotunda and look straight up. Covering the inside of the dome for all to see is a the painting entitled "The Apotheosis of George Washington". The huge painting depicts George Washington transformed as Satan promised into a new "Sun god" (Apollo) in the chariot of Apollo being pulled by four horses across the heavens. The painting is surrounded by all the old pagan "gods" of the old Roman Empire.

Ask yourself why we use an Egyptian obelisk as the Washington Monument honoring the General who led us in our fight for independence and who became the first American President. Then realize that it represents a ray of light (Ra), Illumination, the Penis of Osiris, the "generative" or "creative force," the "Lost Word" of the Mysteries, the Sun, fire (intellect), Apollo.

A result of the Genome Project at Las Alamos Laboratory, the recent success of cloning and advances in biochemistry will produce laboratory created creatures that will ultimately be presented to the People of the world as extraterrestrial in origin. The only reason an extraterrestrial has not yet been presented to humanity is that they have not yet succeeded in making one that is believable. For an in depth explanation of this "artificial alien threat" scenario read The Report From Iron Mountain, The Probability and Possibility of Permanent Peace.

Socialist change agents known to you as William Moore, Jaime Shandera, and Stanton T. Friedman presented the hoax known as Operation Majestic-12. These fake documents were printed in the socialist New York Times. It was an attempt to lead the sheople away from the truth by presenting an artificial alien threat as a "government cover-up" of extraterrestrial visitation. Most of the well known uFOOLogists and so-called UFO researchers are Illuminati, Marxist, CIA, or KGB change agents operating in furtherance of propagandizing the American People.

You wouldn't buy a used car from any of these people... why are you buying "flying saucers"? Stanton T. Friedman ends every lecture with an appeal for world government which he justifies by asking, "Who speaks for planet Earth... Argentina?"

Would you buy a flying saucer from this man?

I was told by one wide eyed attendee at one of Friedman's lectures that, "As a nuclear physicist he has great credibility." A thorough research of his employers for the past 25 years did not yield even one who would verify that Stanton T. Friedman had ever worked for any of them as a "nuclear physicist."

Ruby Ridge, the Waco Massacre, the attack against Patriots and Militias, and other acts of aggression against the American People who might combat this fraud are acts of war. These acts are designed to demonize fundamentalist Christians, Jews, Moslems, the lawful Militia, and anyone else who might fight in defense of the Constitution or Freedom. These terrorist acts deliver a message to the American People that any opposition to the new world supra government will be met with overwhelming force and the complete genocide of the enemies of socialism.

MAJESTYTWELVE revealed that drugs are brought into the United States by the Central Intelligence Agency, the military intelligence organizations, the Mossad, the KGB, and their partners in organized crime. The reasons given were to finance "black projects" that can never be revealed to Congress or oversight committees, and for social engineering. Within the past 2 years it has been revealed that Jewish Rabbis were at the head of drug organizations in New York and elsewhere, while other Rabbis provided the means of laundering drug money for others who imported and sold the drugs in order to finance their religious organizations or fund Israeli and Zionist projects.

Drugs have been a big help to the Illuminati's secret government. Society can be controlled by the control of drugs. This industry brings in unimaginable amounts of money which is accountable to no one. By making drugs plentiful at little or no price many people can be addicted and reduced to a form of euphemistic slavery under the complete control of the suppliers. An addict will do literally anything for a "fix". It is incomprehensible that the sheople actually wanted to elect Ollie North to the United States Senate after having been involved in trading cash for arms for drugs for more cash for more arms for more drugs... and delivering all those weapons to the enemies of the United States of America. It is my opinion that Ollie North is a disgrace to the uniform of the United States Marine Corp.

By making drugs hard to get and jacking up the price the controllers can create massive crime waves at anytime and at any place whenever they wish. These waves of crime frighten innocent law abiding People into agreeing to give up Rights and Freedoms in order to, "get the crime and drugs off the streets". Recent polls have claimed that a majority of the American People are willing to, "give up some of their Rights and Freedom in order to get the crime and drugs off the streets". After passing draconian legislation removing Rights and Freedoms the drugs are once again made plentiful and prices are lowered. And, what do you know... the crime disappears making the new laws look like they are actually working. This technique has been extensively used in the socialists war against the Second Amendment to the Constitution for the United States of America.

The first and largest drug smuggling operations were established on behalf of the CIA by George Herbert Walker Bush while he was the President and CEO of the offshore division of Zapata Oil. Fishing boats would deliver the drugs to the offshore rigs where they were transferred to helicopters and crew boats which were never inspected by customs or any other law enforcement agency. Most of the drugs flowing into the United States are owned and controlled by the CIA, the military intelligence organizations, and the Israeli Mossad.

born invincible
11-22-2006, 06:40 PM
good find ben..

ive read Behold a Pale Horse by Cooper and he covers this topic pretty good!

Kong
11-23-2006, 02:03 PM
i saw that quite a while ago its never been proven fake as far as i know but no1 could really tell if its real or fake without proof.

MaXiMus Da MaNtis
11-24-2006, 12:46 PM
Hahahahaha Lmao Omg Smh Damn This Was Funny Why Is That Guys Voiced Masked If It Was A Stolen Feed

Kong
11-25-2006, 10:44 AM
Hahahahaha Lmao Omg Smh Damn This Was Funny Why Is That Guys Voiced Masked If It Was A Stolen Feed


on the original doc they show the tape then he talks on it after, his face is blacked out and his voice is like that.

Taylor_Made
11-28-2006, 11:13 AM
What is this? A deleted scene from Independance Day? Wake me up when Will Smith puts a cap in this bitch.

First off, how come this alien is portrayed as the usual little green creature we're accustomed to seeing in most alien films? This is a stereotypical alien figure and what one would look like. If there is life out there, I don't expect them to look like Hollywood's picture perfect portrait of an alien. Typical Internet stuff.

Exactly...Has anyone ever noticed how every Alien we see has traits of creatures that live on the planet earth? THey always have two eyes, a nose, brain is in the head, etc. Every animal on earth has these features, these are earthly features. The truth is, we can't even fathom what an alien actually looks like. All we do is come up with humanoid type aliens and shit. If there is life out there, it definetly won't be like anything we have on earth.

Locust
11-28-2006, 11:37 AM
lol you just copied myfirsttimbs post

Taylor_Made
11-28-2006, 02:53 PM
lol...Damn I didn't even see that...

go_skim
11-28-2006, 07:53 PM
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-3245046980782832257&q=area+51
tell me what you think of this

Locust
11-29-2006, 09:22 AM
thats a human^

go_skim
11-29-2006, 07:14 PM
strange looking human

Koolish
11-30-2006, 02:00 AM
indeed.. typical human biased internet stuff

in order to believe this vid is of a real alien we would first have to assume that the same mechanism of biological evolution that occurred on earth, occurred similarly on other planets! (this is highly unlikely!!)

thus, if another intelligent life form is ever found, do not expect it to have what we define as a "head", "arms", 2 eyes" etc!

all of these things are humanoid concepts based on biological evolution that occurs on earth!
but what's to say about the possibility of a universality of this make up of creatures. perhaps the defining features of lifeforms are universal, is it possible advanced lifeforms can exist without these features?